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Young lady killed here in Georgia, Appalachian trail hiker

Posted By: Jan on 2009-01-31
In Reply to: You did the right thing. The only time I give rides is near the Appalachian Trail. - Lllls

and she was enjoying going out about 2 years ago, killed on a mountain here by man posing as hiker. She was a young, vibrant lady in her 20s, he was in his 60s. I think I am getting this right when I say he used her police baton she carried for protection, wrestled it away from her and killed her with it. Is not the trail you hike on known for lot of crimes? This murder happened on that same trail where you give rides to strangers. This man was well known to other hikers there as he hung out on the trail lots of times.


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That's fantastic! It's Appalachian Trail BTW
I'm not being a spelling officer, I just wanted to clarify the name of the trail. I'm an avid Appalachian Trail hiker. (AT for short.) I've been hiking sections of the trail since I was 18, and will be doing a 100-mile section hike in Virginia this year. I'm 46 and plan to continue hiking this great trail for as long as I can put one foot in front of the other!
To hike 150 miles to the Appalachian Trail
I love to backpack, but I haven't had time to do a nice long trip. I've gotten a lot of obligations off my plate this year, and will have time to go into the woods again. I already have a 70-mile trip planned for spring.

When I die and my survivors put up photos of me around the funeral home, I want most of them to be my smiling face as I stand on a trail with beautiful scenery behind me. :)
You did the right thing. The only time I give rides is near the Appalachian Trail.
I'm a hiker myself, and the trail community does depend on the kindness of strangers. Near the trail during hiking season, I will pick up hikers with backpacks. I've been on the trail many times myself, and I've had to stick a thumb out more than a few times. But that is an entirely different situation where the hitchhikers are generally the ones who are more nervous than the drivers.
I saw where they were in the Appalachian Mountains but
the Adirondacks, what section did they show there?
UMASS VS APPALACHIAN STATE sm

 


Anyone have any connection to these two teams.  My daughter is on the UMASS marching band and will be going to Tennessee for the championship game.


sorry, I meant to type Appalachian....sm
not Adirondacks - I just made an error............very sorry :)
What about hiking the Adironack Trail...
a real through hike from beginning to end at age 56 and 59?  Two my girlfriends are going to attempt it at the end of March beginning in Georgia.  They're avid hikers, kayakers and spelunkers...adventurous souls.  I take short day hikes with them when time permits as they're conditioning for the long trek.  We all dress for weather and torrain, not fashionistas (ableit, we can glam up for social affairs)...hair long, short and midlength and we all sing and share different types of music and art....Some have traveled the world and I get to hear all the stories and get great postcards.  Have some fun while you're here on this planet.    Cat
I walk a trail by my house with my dog a few times
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Does he show the horses or trail ride?
We have horses.  There's ALWAYS something you need or want.  How about a gift certificate to his favorite tack store?  Or something special he wouldn't buy himself for riding?  There's a lot of catalogs that cater to horse owners that have some really cool gifts.  LOL, one of the gifts my 12 yo neice has on her Christmas list is a gift certificate to Tractor Supply, yeah I know, you might be a redneck if . . . .
Archer Farms Swiss Trail Mix

I'd grab my backpack and tent and head for the Falls Trail
Ricketts Glenn, PA
Boy scout son used to make pepperoni and marshmallow fluff roll-ups for the trail.
nm
it just about killed me ;)
actually I just ran out of $. Keep it up - it is a fantastic way to exercise. Be careful not to let the instructor/yoursel push you too hard.
I almost killed my cat with tunafish!

Go figure that one out!  He was a Maine Coon cat...just HUGE with a huge appetite and I ran out of food, so I grabbed a can of tuna until I could get to the store.  That night I woke up to SCREAMING like I have never heard an animal scream before and his whole body was spasming.  Oh it was the most horrible thing I had ever witnessed!  I called an emergency vet clinic who took him in right away.  He had a complete blockage of his urethra and couldn't pee...he was a heartbeat away from blowing his bladder and dying.  They had to catheterize him and the bag was full of bloody urine and he spent 3 days in the hospital.  I was a wreck but he was ultimately fine.  Holy crap did that vet bill nearly cripple me!  ICU for a cat...why oh why do I keep on with these friggin' animals?! 


You never know what will cause something to go wrong with these things.  Never blame yourself...ever.  We are all doing the best we can with what we have.



I once had a dream that my dog got killed - sm
and a week later to the day, she did. And it happened exactly like in my dream.
not the ones who end up being killed or prostitutes - sm
no, they don't always come back, there would be no missing persons if that was the case.
Yes, she most definitely killed her...I have no doubts...
nm
georgia
I lived in GA for 1 year last year but didn't have quite that bad weather.  I know the lightening can be pretty intense.  I hope it misses you.  I say a prayer :)
As far as I know, Georgia
is still considered southern. My hubby born and raised in Georgia also. Let me know if I am wrong here.
Unfortunately, here in Georgia, it is
my understanding that there is not any law stating at which age a child may be left home alone. When I called DFACS several years ago regarding this, I was told the above and that DFACS has guidelines that they use (which were ridiculous -- I believe it was 8 years old okay to stay by themselves and maybe a couple of years older to be left in charge of a sibling/younger child). I believe this was about 6 years ago.

Anyway, because these are DFACS guidelines only and are not the law, there is no way to enforce this and unless a tragedy occurs there is no punishment.
Yep here too...Georgia

Same as Georgia, still does not mean
the mothers have to accept crumbs. I hope they get some good lawyers but even just the threats of what can be taken away wakes guys up sometimes.
GEORGIA!!!
I would move to Alabama, because of the no work tax, but in most places sales tax is 10%.
If her dogs killed my cats
I would probably just tar and feather her, that seems like a good remedy for me.
Yesterday's headlines killed me.
"Dr. Melfi quits treating Tony Soprano to start treating Paris Hilton!"

Too funny.

She said on The View that "Paris called and needed me so I had to make all my time available for Paris and her family!"

How not to get killed?!?!?! How about leave the idi0t!!!
I am very independent and I don't care if I have to go get a one bedroom apartment so my two small kids and I can have a place to go. I would not live in fear of my life over anything! I would figure it all out once I got a restraining order and filed a divorce! Wow, I could say a lot, but I am going to keep my comments to myself. That is what I would do. You asked for advice, there you have it!
My youngest step son was killed ........ sm
in a motorcycle accident and was almost decapitated. The mortician did a very good job with him, but there was still some evidence of the trauma he suffered. His mother chose to have an open casket because I doubt she could have dealt with it any other way. It was a very hard funeral, and hard for me as I had not seen him in quite some time and it was hard seeing him lying in a casket, but I think, hard as it was, it did help bring closure for me and for his family. I think it is a very personal decision that only the family can make at a time like this.
Kinda like asking if OJ killed Nicole or not NM
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Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!!
Not that I think it is good to kill fetuses either ... but why don't these people see their lack of logic!

And as far as the stem cells and embryos ... why don't they fight to stop allowing people to fertilize and freeze them to begin with (or more than they will surely use)?!!
I read about a 6yo that killed his classmate
I know this doesn't pertain to you because some kid killed his father after he saw his father committing violence, but I just thought this was interesting article. It's called Why little kids kill. I just cannot fatham anyone at 6 years old doing that. What happened to young innocense....

If I were you and the family seems non-challant I would definitely talk to a police officer and state your concerns. Especially in today's day and age - nothing surprises me.

http://life.familyeducation.com/early-learning/violence/36442.html


nah -- we killed too many brain cells

snorting the crack OUR parents didn't teach us about!


Geesh -- why always so quick to blame the parents?  This kid is 14 years old and knew better than to do this.  She chose to do it anyway, just like so many others before her time chose to get up knocked up, strung out on drugs, become an alcoholic, etc. 


Yes, the kid screwed up, but that's what kids do.  Didn't you ever have a friend who stole a car in high school or got caught cheating and ended up expelled?  It's not the end of the world, but spreading it all over the media could very well push this kid over the edge and cause her to hurt herself.  She obviously is looking for attention or affection.  This is certainly not going to help her.


Here in middle Georgia, we are just
happy not to have the 100s. Reasonable now at 76 today. Gosh, fall… oh, yes, that is when the leaves all fall.
I don't think it is a requirement in Georgia -
However, my concern is that this is an effective preventative measure and people are not getting it for their daughters. You do not have to be promiscious to get it and believe me it causes lots of problems later.

I only had sex with one man - my husband - before being diagnosed with HPV - and he had only had sex with one other person.

I now have constant female problems and the doctor says it is because of the HPV. My paps come back bad and I have to have the LEEP procedures done routinely, or have biopsies done, I have to have paps every 3 months instead of yearly. I have constant bacterial infections and vaginitis.

Goodness knows, I wish I had had the option of having a vaccine to prevent this stuff before I became sexually active with my husband.
Her name was Meredith Emerson, and it was just last January that she was killed.
I know the story very well, and even hiked in memory of her a few weeks after she was killed. Her murder caused great grief along the entire 2100+ miles of the trail, and all of us who love the trail know full well what can happen out there.

The trail community is very difficult to explain to people who haven't experienced it. Yes, people have been killed on the Appalachian Trail, probably about a dozen or so in the over 70 years that the trail has been open. Given the thousands who walk all or part of the trail each year, it is statistically safer on the trail than in "civilization". You are correct, however, that hikers are more in danger than the people who pick them up. The most dangerous places on the trail are at the trailheads and near roads where people pretend to help hikers and then do harm. That is why I pick up hikers, because they are more afraid of me than I am of them. Also, there's quite a bit of communication that goes up and down the trail, and we do keep track of people as they travel. It's very likely that when I pick someone up near the trail, I've heard about their trip. In hiker slang, people who help hikers are called trail angels. It's a different situation. It's not 100% safe, but I choose not to cower at home. I hike the A.T. and other trails, usually with friends, sometimes alone. I tell my family, that if harm should come to me, either through accident or evil, they should remember that I go into the woods because I love it, and should I die there, they should remember that I loved it too much to stay away.

The Appalachian Trail is not the lawless, dangerous passageway that so many people think it is. More times than I can count, I've been asked about the dangers of the trail. Usually I just shrug and smile. It's not worth the argument, because I can't change the minds of people who don't know. On the other hand, I don't want to change minds. If I did, there'd be traffic jams on the trail, and it wouldn't be fun anymore.
Very happy news, Georgia.
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Georgia has a no public smoking law...sm
and it's great going to restaurants, stores, etc without smelling cigarettes. Restaurants can only allow smokers if they don't admit anyone under age 18 and they have to have a ventilation system that meets a certain strict criteria with the state.
Look up sometime about Alday family in Georgia
Everyone in the town knew each other, church going, great little town, safe, so everyone thought. The family slaughtered - oh not by one of their own - by outsider. Farm family. Raped the wife (who was daughter, DIL of the others, all related) and killed oh, I think 6 or 7 in the family. Got in because all the doors unlocked. This was not this year nor the last 10- more like 20 years or so ago. I remember as such a savage thing. They did live in a nice little town where everyone knew everyone.
LOL! If you don't like the weather in Georgia, just hang around SM
a while and it will change soon!
Assisted suicide here in Georgia
A man here in Georgia went a website called Final Exit as he had decided to end his life, had been suffering with cancer of the head, mouth, etc. Now the people who helped him have been arrested for participating. Apparently they use helium and the person or else the people around him then use a bag over his head and from what I am hearing they hold his hands because once he makes his decision and says yes, no turning back. There are some states that allow assisted suicide, Montana and Washington being a couple of them. What I want to know, I type and you probably have also of people at end of life being given morphine in the hospital to "make them comfortable" when actually all it does is speed up their demise by slowing down respiration, etc. I guess the medical profession is able to do their own "Final Exit" scenes but no one else?
Living in Georgia and loving it
Never have felt the need to move because I got frustrated, never. Moved from another state over 30 years ago and love where I live. I really hate when I see an overall blanket statement about a state being backwards. I find myself going on the offense when a person attacks a state in general when they perhaps are unhappy just for the person they are. I am sure a person can find fault with any place they might be brought up or choose to live but my community is very progressive, upscale and as much as I love to travel, hope this can be my home from here on. People make their own happiness and if you are unhappy either in your personal or business life, then perhaps you are just soured on the world, not where you live. If a person wants to move from my state, hey, just more room for the people who can enjoy their life here.
Women with restraining orders are killed by their abuser
Don't get a false sense of security. There have been good advances in the past 20 years but it's still a man's world.

Stay in contact with your friends and family and make sure to give a few of them a code word. Something like the sky is blue or I really want chinese food and they will know to call the police if you are in trouble. Do what you need to do to protect yourself. Do not count on the police. I was attacked in my home 2 hours after leaving the courthouse. I even called 911 when I got home because I was scared. They were on their way but he got there faster.
I was young and nieve and had a newborn I was thinking about. I wish someone would have told me not to go home. Please don't be nieve like I was and trust the system and that piece of paper. It's hard to imagine your home isn't safe or that someone is going to be 100x more aggressive then you have ever seen them be.
I would move and change your numbers and make sure if you work outside your home you alert EVERYONE including the receptionist and your boss/manager and security.
If she doesn't care about the fact that her dog killed your 2 cats
I don't understand why you are so afraid of offending her??!!! I don't know how much time has passed, but I would have been rip roaring FURIOUS at her, SIL or not, that she allowed her dog to do that not once but twice. She sounds pretty self-centered and uncaring to me.
UNC Student Killed, now WBC protestors plan to picket
I live in NC and the news of the murdered student body president (out of respect will not list her name here) has upset all of us in this area, of all religions and non-religious as well.  The WBC is a radical group calling themselves "Christians" who plan to protest at UNC during the memorial service for this beloved young woman.  The group is listed as a "hate group" but call themselves Christians and wear shirts and bear signs saying "God hates you" and God hates colleges, etc.  Their website proclaims "thank God another college student is dead."  This is so horrible and unspeakable.  For those who are not Christian, please do not believe for one moment that this represents common Christian viewpoints.  It definitely does not. The vast majority of Christians are horrified at what these people believe and proclaim. 
Georgia schools also socially pass....sm
I had a prior foster child that came to me in the 5th grade that tested to be on the 1st grade reading level and 2nd grade math level. Her prior schools for the past 2 years that she was in foster care before moving to me had report cards for her with A's and B's all over the place. The school here refused to hold her back because she was held back on the 1st grade due to poor attendance while living with her birth parents, even though emotionally she was 8 in a 12-year-old body.

Fortunately for this child while she was living with me we figured out her educational deficits and that she had learning disabilities. We moved her to a specialized group home that has worked with her extensively and she's now in 8th grade and back in mainstream classes. She's making C's and earning them - not having them given to her. I shudder to think what would have happened to her if she hadn't come to my home to figure out she had more problems than the system realized and helped her get the help she needed - she probably would have ended up as a statistic. She still is emotionally behind her peers but hopefully one day will catch up on that aspect. Oh yes, she also went to summer school here and that was 2 weeks - what a joke. All they did was play games half the day outside and did just a little work on reading and math.
Any Habersham County, Georgia residents out there? sm
if so please e-mail me.  We're considering moving there and I'd love to meet someone in that area.  Thanks!
Some Georgia schools have dress codes...sm
and they work with school uniform vendors to provide them really cheaply, around $7-8 for each shirt and each pair of pants or shirt.

My daughter goes to a school with a dress code and it's nice not having the "what is OK to wear to school" discussions in the morning. It also eliminates kids who come from poor families feeling inferior to other kids over their clothes.
Georgia, 30 miles south of Atlanta
lots do here, just where you live I suppose. I for 1 am glad to take hubs last name, no problem with that for me.
In Georgia, we receive permission slips also.
I don't think they should have to check every child's record before administering any MEDICAL testing, but I definitely think permission slips are in order.
Live in Georgia and highly support it
If this had been the case with octomom the people would never have to support her litter.
you got mighty lucky because boric acid is poisonous and could have killed them
X
Just read where a 42-year-old woman was mauled and killed by her own 2 pit bulls sm

in FL near Jacksonville. Then the dogs turned on her son  who was also bit in the throat but luckily will survive.  Then the dogs turned on the sherrif's dept before they were both shot and killed. THANK GOD. I hate these dogs. I'm sorry. When my brother was walking home from fishing years ago pits attacked him and he's never been the same. Thankfully he survived.  When you go to the FL news website you see tons of pit bull owners sticking up for this breed and saying how they are great dogs. if they are so great why are they banned in multiple counties across the nation? No other type of dog is banned? Neighbors, cousins all say that she was a very loving owner who even slept with the dogs. No neglect, nothing. There were people saying that they leave their pits alone with their young children, as young as 3 years old! How ignorant can you be?


Tons of FL residents are calling of the extinction of this breed and I think that's a great idea.  You cannot trust a pit bull PERIOD.  There is something in their brains that can TICK at any time - this was quoted by a vet who specializes in dog care.  So tell me, why do people take chances with this kind of dog? I'm so angry right now!!!!!!