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Look at this headline "Michigan Teens Murder, Dismember Sex Offender (sm)

Posted By: NC MT on 2007-11-13
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This man was ambushed, murdered, beheaded and burned.  The headline says these teens murdered a sex offender.  Way down in the article it says that this man 9 years ago at age 17 had sex with a 14 year old.  That was his offense. It does not say he raped her.  While I agree he should not have had sex with a 14 year old, I think it is very unfair that after he suffered such a horrible death the headline reads that a sex offender was murdered.  The article also says that his being a "sex offender" had nothing to do with why the boys murdered him, they just did it to do it.  How sad that after his death, that is what they post about him!!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_on_re_us/burned_torso


 




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