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Michael Vick getting his way past dues

Posted By: Southern girl, never into dog fighting on 2007-09-25
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Whoopi does not seem to know that all southerns are not into dog fighting (ridiculous) but grand jury in Virginia bringing their own charges against Vick for the dog fighting. Just heard on Fox channel. Good for them! Says he could get up to 10 years- hope for that also. What a rotten excuse for a person.


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Speaking of Michael Vick, did you see...sm
How many of those dogs were rehabilitated and rehomed? Some are living on a sanctuary. Really. There were a few who could not be rehabilitated though and had to be put down but a lot weren't and are great dogs now. I just wanted to add that since speaking of Michael Vick. I know it probably won't make a difference to you but I didn't know if you knew some actually were rehabilitated.
BTW, I am adamantly against fighting pit bulls. That is abuse pure and simple.
Michael Vick pleds GUILTY to
dogfighting charges and will be sentenced December 10th.  He is having a news conference at about 11:30 a.m. EST.  There are people that are supporting him.  How can anyone condone what he has done.  There were supporters at the court house in Virginia who were clapping and singing and saying that they LOVED HIM.  OMG.  He better get time in jail or I have lost all faith in the court system for CELEBS.  He did the crime now he must pay the time.  I do not care what color he is.  He did a horrible thing and should not get away with it. 
Yes - Michael or Yuli. nm
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Michael Moore

Unfairenheit 9/11The lies of Michael Moore.




MichaelMoore: Trying to have it three ways
One of the many problems with the American left, and indeed of the American left, has been its image and self-image as something rather too solemn, mirthless, herbivorous, dull, monochrome, righteous, and boring. How many times, in my old days at The Nation magazine, did I hear wistful and semienvious ruminations? Where was the radical Firing Line show? Who will be our Rush Limbaugh? I used privately to hope that the emphasis, if the comrades ever got around to it, would be on the first of those and not the second. But the meetings themselves were so mind-numbing and lugubrious that I thought the danger of success on either front was infinitely slight.


Nonetheless, it seems that an answer to this long-felt need is finally beginning to emerge. I exempt AL Franken's unintentionally funny Air America network, to which I gave a couple of interviews in its early days. There, one could hear the reassuring noise of collapsing scenery and tripped-over wires and be reminded once again that correct politics and smooth media presentation are not even distant cousins. With Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, however, an entirely new note has been struck. Here we glimpse a possible fusion between the turgid routines of MoveOn.org and the filmic standards, if not exactly the filmic skills, of Sergei Eisenstein or Leni Riefenstahl.


To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.





Michael Jackson ....
I saw the same thing and then heard the reports that he had no pulse and was not breathing once the paramedics got to him.  I have been scanning between the big networks, CNN, HLN and Fox and they all say that his situation is "grave."  I changed over to a local channel that, ABC, and they are reporting that he has died. 
??Next Michael Moore movie
Perhaps we need to get the attention of Michael Moore to come to our defense.  A sequel to Sicko - regarding the outsourcing of our medical records to other countries - I'll contact him, will you?
So Mr. Hitchens dislikes God and Michael
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Michael Vicks ... I wish I could treat him the same. sm

I'm sorry but I am writing letters to every single sponsor of his and to the NFL and the Falcons. 


If I could, I would treat him the same way he has allowed those poor dogs to be treated. 



Michael Jackson has died (sm)
All the major news shows reporting that he died of cardiac arrest. 
She's beginning to remind me of Michael Jackson....sm
someone crying out for help but no one getting through to them. Of course Michael would alienate or fire anyone that told him he was crazy. Sad thing for Brittney is that this bizarre behavior will hurt her in her custody attempt for the kids, and if she's that mentally unstable she shouldn't have the kids.
I like Michael Moore, but health care SM
in Cuba has declined and it's certainly not great. Don't believe everything you see.

It used to be fair, before the embargo, but it's now third world. What you saw was planned in advance.
I avoid Michael Moore and his "documentaries" whenever possible, BUT
I will watch this movie, I promise.

I don't believe Mr. Moore's beaming portrayal of the European and Canadian health care systems is completely accurate. I have a number of Canadian friends who have described the system as chaotic and overwhelmingly dangerous and dysfunctional. The wait lists for some routine or non-emergency procedures can be literally months long.

I'm an RN and have worked with Canadian nurses who said they crossed the border because they can't earn a competitive wage in their own country. One of my patients (a Canadian now living in the US) had the misfortune of having a heart attack while visiting relatives in BC, and by his own account he had to lie on a gurney in the hallway of the ER for 48 hours while receiving only intermittent treatment. My girlfriend told me pregnant women there don't get epidurals during labor because there is never time or an anesthesiologist available to administer them.

None of this excuses the health care crisis in the United States, but it should cause us to question whether adopting a national plan is truly the answer to our problems. I just know I don't want Canada to be our model.
Michael Jackson -Do you think he faked his death?
I just saw his "last picture"  This man was darker skinned -- different nose, completely.  Not the person we've been seeing on TV.  The medical stuff doesn't add up either -- from what I'm reading/hearing with time frames.  Sort of makes one think this was all staged -- he has done it before--staged photos.  Did you see the "body" coming off the HC?  They dropped the gurney and part of it bounced up.  Wouldn't the body not have been stiff by that time?????
Michael Jackson -Do you think he faked his death?
I just saw his "last picture"  This man was darker skinned -- different nose, completely.  Not the person we've been seeing on TV.  The medical stuff doesn't add up either -- from what I'm reading/hearing with time frames.  Sort of makes one think this was all staged -- he has done it before--staged photos.  Did you see the "body" coming off the HC?  They dropped the gurney and part of it bounced up.  Wouldn't the body not have been stiff by that time?????
Michael Jackson -Do you think he faked his death?
I just saw his "last picture"  This man was darker skinned -- different nose, completely.  Not the person we've been seeing on TV.  The medical stuff doesn't add up either -- from what I'm reading/hearing with time frames.  Sort of makes one think this was all staged -- he has done it before--staged photos.  Did you see the "body" coming off the HC?  They dropped the gurney and part of it bounced up.  Wouldn't the body not have been stiff by that time?????
Amanda, now with DR coming out that Michael was not the father
do you still think they look mixed? Oh, I would guess you would say yes as to not backtrack on your comments yesterday. You were so emphatic about how mixed folks could look this way, that way, etc, before the news broke last night about Debbie Rowe saying Michael was not the father of the 2 children. In MJ's case, might be different but when my brother died and my mother tried to push for trust for his children, her grandchildren, she was told by courts she had no say. Being as he was the star he was, might be different case here. I heard later these were not the first statements from her about the paternity of the children, she had said this previously.
boxing announcer Michael Buffer!!! I could listen to him ALL DAY!!! (nm)
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Adam Sandler, Michael Jordan, The Rock (sm)
How's that for variety? LOL!
Forgot to mention I was waiting to see Michael Flatley and SM
after I picked the pan up he came on!  That dance almost made the carpet deal with it!
Oh, my dog is Michael Jordan. I swear she's part deer!

We just moved to the country, but when we lived in town, she jumped the fence I don't know how many times.  When she wants in the house, it's not enough to simply scratch on the door, she has to jump six feet in the air and basically throw herself into the door. 


I just get so frustrated.  I was at friends house who has a golden retriever and they have a little bell hanging from their back doorknob and when their dog wants out, he simple rings the bell and same thing on the outside of the door too.  I was incredulous.  How did they get their dog to do that?!?!?! 


Just heard, Michael Jackson had heart attack?
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Just a sad, sad day. Two pop culture icons die - Farrah and Michael Jackson.

I grew up with Michael Jackson.  Used to watch the Jackson 5 cartoons in the 70s when I was a little kid.  Then bought his first solo album, Off the Wall.  Was watching the Apollo special when he moonwalked for the first time on stage.  Bought Thriller as a teenager in the 80s and was just a huge, big-haired fan.  It's like a part of my childhood just died.


And who can forget Farrah?  I loved Charlie's Angels.  Remember when she came back to acting after Charlie's Angels in the Burning Bed?  Who knew she was more than just a sex symbol on a poster?!?!?!  She fought such a courageous battle against her cancer. 


BREAKING NEWS- Debbie Rowe says Michael is NOT
the father of her children. She has now given an interview today and this is the latest on this. It has been on Fox News tonight. Remember about the talk below where I said needed DNA for those kids?? Guess I might have been right when I said did not ever think they belonged to MJ.
Michael's and other craft/sewing stores have kits to make
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Post from main board ie Michael Moore movie Sicko

I have NO desire to see this movie, and I believe that it is just perpetuating and promoting what is going on in this county  -- I recently suffered a broken leg and went to THE "county hospital, i.e., Jackson Memorial, in Miami/Dade County  -- the ONLY reason that I even went there was because of the fact that my significant other did not understand that with my insurance through CHAMPUS that I could be seen at any or all hospitals in the Miami area  -- as a side note, the ONLY time that I have been "turned down" is at a Kaiser facility as far as being seen as a CHAMPUS patient.


CHAMPUS is the major insurance carrier that serves our military and their familes once the service member is honorably discharged, retires from active duty or dies in active combat or retired. 


What I endured at Jackson was little short of HORRENDOUS and I believe that if any of us were to be seen at a major medical facility, we would soon find this out.


Jackson Memorial is 1500 beds  -- I was initially seen in their "Extreme Care" section  -- I got there at 11:30 a.m. and was finally out of there at 11:30 p.m.  In the meantime, I walked down to their radiology department because the ignoramous P.A. did not put me in a wheelchair or crutches after I told him that the ankle area had been bruised for a week  even after I wrapped it, Epsom salts, ice packs etc  -- guess their attitude was "oh well"  -- sure enough, it was a fracture  -- they lost my records and with my second appointment it was from approximately 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. to be seen in their "Trauma Clinic"  -- no docs, just residents,but tell you what, if you are of Hispanic descent, or poor  -- BOY do you get preferential treatment  -- needless to say, I am still in pain, with swelling, can't wear a shoe after the cast being off a week, and cannot get results  -- I called the ER a bit ago and told them that I was going to be seen at a real hospital and that they could take their treatment and stick it


Bottom line is that patient care has TRULY gone down the toilet, whether it be a nurse, doctor or ANY kind of healthcare professional.


 


Michael's craft stores offers all kinds of Sat. classes. Or check
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I've given books of stamps, too. New dishtowels. Gift certs to Michael's if
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Do you stencil? Walmart and Michael's locally sell stencils and the dabber brushes.
It is not hard.  I did a design of ivy and then glazed over it (suggestions on type to use from Lowe's) and then found a shower curtain that had the same ivy, material with ivy and light flowers to trim out some towels.  Looks pretty darn nice, if I do say so myself. 
I never said anything about what I have done in my past
heavens, I had premarital sex, had several abortions, drank until in a drunken state, smoked like a house of fire, cursed, had lots of sexual partners in the past, rode a motorcycle without a helmet, ate fast food, indulged in Burger Kings especially, drove way over the speed limits, cheated on my first husband but...... that was in my past. I never said I was angel, never. I changed as I aged and hopefully gained some wisdom over the years. I obey most of the laws now although living in Atlanta I still speed. All the above things of the past. I am saying and will continue to say, rules are made by the people voted into office. If you don't like them, vote and change things. Oh, something else, after marrying this last husband I even stopped drinking Cokes. I did it because I wanted to, not because I had to. And answer to another post, they have stopped selling Cokes in a lot of the schools because the kids are becoming so obese and that is just another way for them to indulge in meaningless calories. All the things listed in my previous post stand as I told them. And by the way, chickee dee, never mentioned I did unsafe or unhealthy, just came to my senses and stopped a lot of stuff.
I have something in my past
That I haven't told my husband and I don't plan on it. No one but me and one other person knows about it and the other person is long gone. It was something medical, and no it wasn't an unwanted pregnancy or anything like that. There's no need for him to know since I didn't know my husband back then and it doesn't have any bearing on anything in our relationship now.
I think in the past...
it used to be that way, but not anymore.  So many boys now are not circumcised, it's quite normal.  As far as I know, it is not recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics, so it is not a routine procedure in most hospitals and parents need to specifically ask for it.  I have heard that some hospitals do not even perform it in-house.  Also, are insurance companies even paying for this procedure anymore?  I think many do not cover it.
What I have experienced in that past -
I agree with the other poster. That money is really *good faith money.* The buyer puts that money up in order to show you they want the house and for you to hold it for them until closing. You will not see any money of any kind until closing. If the deal falls through you can often collect that money or a portion of it. You really need to keep in close contact with your real estate agent. After all, they are getting paid mighty well to sell your home! :-)
I don't know how women in the past did that - sm
I mean for me it hurt like the dickens (unfortunately did "it" twice that fateful evening) and I couldn't walk without incredible pain for days afterwards. Who would want to deal with that on their honeymoon? Certain would kill the urge.... Now maybe that is not the norm, but I swear childbirth was easier.
Past retirement age.
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She's graduated past the age
where you should feel an obligation of any kind.

You are her godparent, so she is supposed to give you a gift, right? Is she?
Sharing your past

I have an 18 yo son and a 16 yo daughter and this subject comes up occasionally.  So far we haven't had to worry about their drinking or drugging, and it may have something to do with how both our pasts have been part of our teachings, age-appropriate, of course.  We both come from alcoholic families though were blessed never to become alcoholic ourselves, but we've shared some of our expeirences from the standpoint of how they made our lives more complicated.  We strive for simplicity in our family, and they can see how immoral behavior almost always makes for a more complicated life.  At 18 and 16 they both just tasted wine for the first time (other than church) this Christmas and none of their friends drink, or even smoke.  They know their grandmother died of emphysema. 


They also know that my life changed drastically when their oldest brother was born 37 years ago when I was 18, and also that both their father and I have struggled hard all our lives because of not going to college.  For every "but you came out okay" there's the answer that it could have been so much easier to get here had we made different choices, and making the right choices is what it's all about, isn't it?


No...but just can't get past this one - still ROFL!
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Way past childbearing age..
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Just how often has he abused you in the past.If you
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what is something you have bought in the past you will NEVER


Mine is Little Critters Omega-3 Gummy Fish. Cute concept but the berry, lemon and strawberry flavoried gummies somehow manage to taste like fruity flavored fish Shocked When I got them, my kids gagged with the first one and wouldn't even touch the second one for the recommended 2 a day. So guess who is choking down 2 of those suckers every day now?

We just got WII fit this past week
I'm waiting for school to start so I can do it with no one home!!! Glad to hear there is a password so you can hide your weight and BMI. ;)

We bought this WII for my son last Christmas and I can honestly say it was money well spent. They have a blast with it and they aren't constantly sitting. We don't have the Guitar Hero but maybe that will be next on the list.
A lot of us have things in our past........ sm
that we are not proud of, and while we do not deliberately try to hide them, sometimes it is just easier not to talk about them as it is painful and very often misunderstood by those around us, even our spouses.

It is not my business what this "secret" is that your husband has, but it sounds as if it is something that he has learned a lesson from and probably will not end up repeating in the future.

My own personal opinion is that if this is not something that is threatening your marriage or your children right now, I would let the past stay in the past. In other words, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
WOW! I will try this but sure hope I can get past
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If I could change the past
I would either change my parents to parents who wanted me and loved me like I do my children.  Or I would have my mother put me up for adoption like she did one of my sisters....she was the lucky one.  I envy her.  A mother who does not love you will affect your whole life, but it made me want to be a loving mother.
Thanks everyone. I have had mono in the past so (sm)
that is why they did not think that is the problem now. I didn't try the pepper yet...kind of chicken I think. But I will try that and if I am not better in the next day or two I will go and ask about my thyroid. I have been borderline hypothyroid for a long time so it wouldn't be a big surprise.

Thanks again
Where were you the past 8 years? LOL. nm
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Anyone out there with a gothic kid present or in the past???sm

If your child was previously gothic, how long did it take for them to grow out of this phase?  I'm tired of seeing our 15-year-old wear black all of the time.  She refuses to wear anything else, and the black eyeshadow looks ridiculous.   I told her the other day that if she isn't going to wear her other makeup that she wanted over the summer then give it to me as I'd give it to a kid that would wear it - especially since there is some that hasn't been opened yet.   She isn't happy that we won't let her get those weird body piercings or tattoos... but oh well, we've told her that until she is on her own she has to live by our rules.  Overall she's a good kid and doesn't socialize outside of school so at least we're not dealing with the "what's my kid doing with their friends at night" thing!


Watched all for the past 6 years now
but went to their show after year before last and really disappointed. I thought they would have more of the singers together, left before it was over but I love the show and wouldn’t miss for anything.
In the past, great vacation
I have been to several Club Meds, started out in Eluthra in the Bahamas, then Cancun about 3 times, Paradise Island in the Bahamas, Ixtapa in Mexico, Playa Blanca in Mexico and then the last trip my daughter and I took was to Turks and Caicos. You can see, I really loved Club Med at one time when children or just my daughter and I traveled together. I loved the fact that all you had to do was get your suitcase there and from then on your trip all paid for. Now having said that, I feel now Club Med is overpriced for the deals you can get now days. At one time the all inclusive was Club Med and now so many others have the same to offer at lower prices. The last time I was in Cancun I was very disappointed in the food, not like I had been all the other times. I had a wonderful time for those years I did go, though.
I guess that got past me but what does going to private
school have to do with this? Things that were in our past we have no control over. I live in the "deep south" and I am prejudiced, very much so, have always been, against thin women, healthy volumed hair ladies, people who do not like animals and my list goes on and on. I do think with all that happened in our deep south, you would not think we would have such an influx of blacks wanting to settle here and call it home, would you? Bad things can happen anywhere, anywhere.
My goodness, I am so past worrying
I have a mixed daughter who is 32 years of age. I lived in Atlanta proper for 29 years. I have NEVER had a problem with a mixed marriage. None. My daughter has told me she has the best of both worlds. She has all kinds of friends, white, black, Asian. I was sooooo kidding when I wrote that. I was first married in the early 70s to her father here in the DEEP south so if I were afraid, it would have been years ago. I was just getting a social lesson when the person referring to how things are in the south. Oh by the way, you know Florida is not really, for whatever reasons, considered a southern state. My BIL lives in Tampa and his daughter lives in a house that is outta sight. Folks do not have to just live in Atlanta (talking blacks) in order to have the better things in life.