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My 3rd grader still believes as do all of her friends - sm

Posted By: Laura E. on 2006-12-13
In Reply to: Santa - mteedoff

and I do not shelter my kids. They go to school, attend brownies, and dance. I hope she still believes next year, as well as my younger daughter (now 6). It is all part of the magic of Christmas and the mystic quality of all of it. Santa is a wonderful idea and ideal, promotes the joy of giving, whether it be a gift, or your time to helping others in need. I don't remember when I stopped believing, somewhere in the 8-9 year-old range but I had 2 older brothers but I believe my mom had them keep their mouths shut so I could believe as long as was able. I was a year younger than most the kids in my class too. ---to those who think its wrong to lie about santa, I presume this means your kids never had the joy of the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy as well. I think all that is part of a happy childhood.


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My 14-YO still believes. So did I at that age.
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No, I am just someone who believes (sm)
in innocent until proven guilty and the right to a fair trial.  You just enjoy being judgmental and hateful.  I feel sorry for you, I really do.
Too bad that you mom believes in sm
swearing on the bible but also believes in demons. I don't have any of the problems that you and many others have posted, but I do feel for you.
My daughter is in 3rd grade and still believes
and so do most of her classmates/friends! She has never questioned if Santa was real or not and I absolutely have no intention of telling her anytime soon. You obviously know nothing about MOST 3rd graders if you think that they don't belive in Santa!! Maybe I just live in a city where having an imagination and embracting childhood is still a good thing.
My mom believes that old wives' tale, too! - nm
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ur the same poster who believes the RAINN figures

right? 


I also have a 1st grader.....
First grade is a lot more difficult than kindergarten and it is very sad that your daughter had the type of kindergarten year that she did last year.

My son is also a first grader this year. He had a really good kindergarten teacher with a class of 15. His first grade teacher is pretty good too, but this class has 23 (which is still low compared to other classroom averages in other schools, But what a difference a few extra students make!) I volunteer in his classroom every Monday and I am shocked at what is required out of first graders these days! This is such a difficult grade because kids are all at different levels at this age.

With extra support with her work she will do just fine, it will just require a little time and effort. I think it is very commendable that you and your husband do have an active role in your child's education and are willing to go the extra mile to help boost or supplement what she is learning in school. That will go a long way with helping her get through these first couple years of school without struggling too much.

If you are looking for a good program to help boost literacy and keep your daughter's attention- consider checking into the Letter People program by Abram's & Company. (They have a website.) My son loves the Letter People and they have helped to boost his desire to read. There are many other great educational programs available out there too. You will find something that she will enjoy! :)
8th grader
My absolute favorite was when they would get in fights while instant messaging on the internet. My daughter is a senior, and even she shakes her head and laughs about it now.
My neighbor has a (now) first grader - sm
and she has her ears pierced. Mom buys her semi-precious stones, opal earrings, etc. The kid loses them all the time. She has many, many singles now. I would not advise anything of expense for any child under the age of 12. Either get inexpensive CZs or birthstones that are under $20. Hypoallergenic posts are a must though.
Defiant 2nd grader too
Wow! Is it the time of year or something? The last few months, my little boy has been absolutely defiant. He is fine in school, except when he goes to reading group (he does not like the teacher), he has tried to come home by having the clinic check his temperature. This went on for days until they caught on that he did not like the class. So he went to the guidance counselor and they are not allowing him to come to the clinic around reading group. (Boy who cried wolf.)
Now, at home he is angry all the time, complaining all of the time, rude to his stepdad, mean to me and his dad and my husband believe I have to spank. I have never spanked in my life and I don't even know how to approach that...Just today I was thinking there was something wrong with him, oppositional defiant disorder or some other diagnosis (see that's the MT in me), but reading here, maybe it is a phase (hopefully). Still I too am looking for a solution. His stepdad took his TV out of his room because my boy would not take a shower for days and he lied that he did. I was asleep because I work third shift at the time. But taking the TV away worked he took the shower. Then, I hear this morning when they were at the store he picked a glass beer bottle off the curb and just smashed it. I asked him why he did this and he was trying to think up some reason but he could not come up with anything. This worries me. The thing is it is nice you guys are talking about this right now because it is exactly what is going on in our house this very day! Any and all suggestions would be welcome. Sorry for the long post. :)
Similar situations here with 4th grader
I also would think they would know better at that age, but obviously my child did not. Similar things happened to mine, not DS games as they are not allowed to leave the house, but with other things. We explained to him that it was his mistake and you can't trust everyone, even friends. He has had to deal with it on his own. It took a few tiems and now he has finally learned his lesson. Sometimes they have to learn the hard way I think. Even though I don't like feeling like I lost money but he's the one who lost the game, not me. He has to deal with the consequences.
August 22nd for my 1st grader here in Iowa
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not every child in the 3rd grade is going to have the mentality of a 3rd grader. some or ahead
and some arent.  some still believe. there isnt that much difference between 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders...i am talking about an entire classroom of thirty children.  she didnt use the word " exist"...she had children raise their hands as to what parts of the story is false and fiction...i just think she could have found a diff story, didnt have to talk about santa ya know?
My 7th grader is doing the Schoolhouse Rock as a musical this spring! nm
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Teacher forces 3rd grader to unclog toilet

ST. GABRIEL, La. — Saint Gabriel police have arrested a third-grade schoolteacher and booked her with cruelty to a juvenile.


The parents of a student at East Iberville School filed a complaint against 46-year-old Julie Landry of Plaquemine, accusing her of forcing their son to unclog a restroom toilet with his hands May 7th.


Landry has been placed on leave with pay.


Landry is a first-year teacher, participating in an alternative certification program.


When you have friends - it's good. But when you don't have friends it's

REALLY GOOD!!!


I swear, I have this one friend who just gets mad at me stupid stuff.  I told her a few weeks ago that I could probably go out this sat. but now I can't make it (just dinner). So, I emailed her and told her I can't go. She's upset.  Thinks I should not have made plans in the first place. Well, things come up.


Why are people (women) so catty? Immature?


Are there any women out there who can: Forgive, understand, not get offended because I am not perfect? If so, I'd like to meet you.  I highly doubt she exists though.


Friends of Our's..

are separating and might end up divorced uggg.


They are the couple that we went on our summer vacation with. They have no kids luckily.


SHE is unhappy and has been since June I guess. He has been talking to hubby about it all on MSN Messenger and asking for advice. It has to do with her Religion, she goes to the church where they meet in homes and she wears skirts. I can't think of what she calls it but he isn't into that Religion and refuses to go to church with her and that is causing problems.

Anyway, she won't be happy unless she finds a guy in her church, that way, they will go together, ya know?


I feel bad for them but it might be for the best I don't know.


DH saw it with friends and they all
loved it. He reports it is very good and very gory. Critics hated it, but it is raking in the money because fans love it. It is more of a guy movie, but that doesn't mean a lot of us gals won't like it too. DH and his friends all researched the subject before going, they were that excited.
ooh, I never said he and I were friends...

I tried being *friends* with him for about 8-9 years after but he was never my friend (nor his own friend) - but with passive-aggressives - if they don't want to change, forget about them *cooperating* - WE EVEN DID THERAPY prior to the divorce but it was evident to the therapist that he was lying and playing games.....power tripping games too.


No, what I meant is he is in a better place today in HIS life, kids are doing their thing and communicating with both parents, and my life is great because I'm FREE....for me, it's all about freedom and having nobody trying to *control* me.


Good luck in your choices, they are not easy choices by any stretch of the imagination.... 


Where are her friends?
This young woman is in pain and is hurting. She needs help. Where are her friends? Instead of demonizing her, her mother, K-Fed, father - is he in the picture - former pastor, someone should be with her and get her to go into intensive private therapy. The girl is melting down in front of the world and no one is trying to help her.

I don't condone illegal drug use or misuse of legal drugs, but I really don't care if her problems were caused by drugs or something else. She is a human being in pain and needs help, not ridicule or judgment.

Where are Nicole, Paris, Lindsay, all the blondettes were ready to party with her in order to get their own picture in the tabloids? Where are the publicity agents, talent agents, etc., who made thousands of dollars off Britney's career? Someone needs to step up to the plate for her.
I should add that Pam and I were friends (sm)
not just in Bunco but had gone many places together, spent lots of time at each other's homes, had our children play together, etc.
best friends?
How many of you have bonded with a person...ala best friend...out of your immediate family?...to the point where you trust this person more so than a family member?

I have friends..not close...I'm close to only my sister...

I know one acquaintance that spends all her time with her best friend...I mean they have morning coffee together..take family trips..am and pm visits...I don't know that I could be that close to someone without it bugging me abit even though she was a good friend...

Confusing maybe..just thought I'd throw it out there..its a thought I had...

If they are your friends
Then they will take your feelings into consideration also. If you don't want to hang out, you don't want to hang out, no harm in that.
that's what my guy friends said!
and then nicely they of course told me that's why I wouldn't be allowed to live there.

haha
that's what my guy friends said!
and then nicely they of course told me that's why I wouldn't be chosen to live there.

haha
yes he does and he says his friends liked it
because he thinks his teeth look like hers now. It's my issue not his, thank goodness!!!

I guess it's because his teeth don't cascade naturally. He did have a palatial expander, which may have something to do with it.
Friends....sm
I have 3 friends who have been wonderful over the years. One I have known nearly my whole life, one for almost 20 years and the other for about 10 years. Then I have my sister and 2 female cousins who are absolutely 3 of my most favorite people in the entire world. I am truly blessed.
friends
My sister is still very good friends with her best friend from high school and it is cool to see them get so old. I am the older sister and in my head they were goofy, skinny teenagers, and now they have all these kids and it is amazing. Me and my best friend in high school did not last past me having a baby. She never married and I guess she felt like we did not have anything to talk about anymore.
Friends
I've run into quite a few of these type of individuals through the years.  Oftentimes, it turned out to be a family member of the boss, owner, etc., or someone who got the job through a friend, OR someone who just happens to look good.  It seems that experience and talent/ability are not the qualities that get the job nowadays.
I agree for friends
I have a very good friend who lives across the street and she's welcome to come over whenever she wants. We usually just knock and go right in. I do look out the window though if the doorbell rings and I usually don't answer it if it's someone I don't know.
My kids all believe, even though some of their friends say otherwise.
It probably helps that they are "free thinkers." They have their own thoughts and opinions and aren't usually swayed by others. Also, one of them is pretty popular in his school and very much a leader there, so many of the kids believe what he has to say over a lot of the other kids, even about Santa!

I think I've gone out of my way to teach my kids not to follow others' belief patterns just for the sake of being like everyone else. They really don't care much if they stand out, and it's actually worked to their advantage. They are often looked up to because they're strong enough to be different. :)

By the way, they feel sorry for the kids who don't believe in Santa.
did you accept it and are you friends?
mk
Well, she can't just not let her child have friends over! (sm)
That's just not realistic. So the whole family should just hide in their house because of her husband's issues? I have to disagree with that.
tell us about your furry friends.
We would love to hear! 
No famous HS friends, but...

my FIL worked as a security guard for several Elvis Presley's Memphis events.  He was a sheriff department reserve officer and they were chosen regularly for Elvis' appearances. 


My former step-mother owned a night club in Port Arthur, Texas, where Janis Joplin and her band played regularly...before she was famous.


My parents assembled the dryers/heaters that cleaned up the radiation spilled at the Three Mile Island accident in the seventies.



oh, he realizes he does it, and he does not do that to his friends, right?
nm
One of my very best friends had this done and is so very happy she did.
She had a really horrible time before the ablation, including chronic anemia. (Her hemoglobin had fallen to 5.4 at one point!)

She had this done last year and says it's the best decision she ever made. The procedure wasn't bad, recovery was quick, and she's had no problems, and no periods, since then.
Losing friends
When I lost my first one (my cat BB) I tried to keep him hanging on as long as possible but when I talked to him about it he let me know he wanted me to let him go and I held him when I took him to the vet and he purred the whole time.  He knew he didn't have to suffer any more. The really hard stuff only lasts for 3 days, then you feel better every day.  It's lots easier after you get the ashes back, you feel like they're home.  On my hearth I have 4 late cats, 1 late husband, 1 late brother-in-law and my late mother.  I never really feel like they're gone.  I feel for you, hang in there. 
Family and friends
Thanks for understanding. I agree. I have found that family is not necessarily blood. They say blood is thicker than water? I say blood could equal dysfunction. The real family we have are those we choose ourselves and who love us in return. Your peaceful Christmas with you husband and your friends sound like what Christmas is all about, not the other stuff. Thanks for reminding me Christmas can be peaceful and warm.
This is why I have mostly male friends.
I really hope you don't take too much into the mean ones and listen to the positive input.

Walk a mile in someone else's moccasins, people...
I didn't but my son and some of his friends did.
I am going to try to record it since my son won't be home from school when it airs. I talked to another mom and she is going to record it as well. Hopefully one of will succeed.
We are going to the dog track with friends. sm
we have been doing this for years. Only spend a couple of dollars on each race (we really don't know what we are doing LOL) and then we play the slots. A couple of years ago I hit $2000.00 on "The Big Cheese". We only go once or twice a year so that makes it even more fun.
Good friends sm

Believe me when I say this, I have all my life been a giver and I always end up getting hurt in the longrun. The only friend you should be totally devoted to is YOU. Be your own best friend. Even if you don't have money, do something nice for yourself and you'll feel better.The best things in life really are free, a brisk walk, a hot shower or tub, etc. I have a hard time as well but never as much as when a supposedly good friend betrays me. I know if I take care of ME, at least one person is grateful, ME. Some of my worst best friends came from church, go figure! Be nice to yourself and the rest will follow. You are not alone with the way you feel, just tell yourself this too will pass and think of the saying that goes, "I felt sorry for myself because I had no shoes; then I met a man with no feet." You will be okay, try to let it pass, don't hurt yourself, please, we need all the MT's we can get!!


My friends all went to the fireworks at the - sm
Ferry Building on the waterfront last night. I was tempted to go, but honestly don't like being around ONE drunk, let alone a quarter-million of 'em! So instead I stayed home and worked late into the night to get as much as possible done. Then today I slept 'til noon, and then went for a long skate all over town. Went to the 4-story parking-structure where I used to work, and took advantage of its emptiness. I skated up all the ramps to the top floor(the "workout" part), and then turned back around, got into a tuck, and zoomed down all four floors non-stop. (The FUN part.) What a blast! I love parking structures..........
:)
Mom called friends?..........who are these
xx
Never said you didn't have friends
I wasn't condemning anyone and certainly didn't mean to imply you didn't have good friends. But living with someone is different; when you have the flu, do your friends stay with you overnight and wait on you, sit around watching TV with you, etc?

It's funny, actually, because I just typed up some guy who had a closed head injury with a prolonged confusional state and was separated from his wife. They couldn't let him go home unless he had someone there to watch him all weekend. Guess who he's going home with? One of his friends? Nope. His wife.


I have some friends who adopted 2 of them;
The more I see them, the more I like them. If I had room for a dog, I'd consider a retired racing greyhound!
We go every New Years with friends
and occasionally once more during the year, about a 2 hour drive. For New Years we get a package deal that includes dinner, hotel, and some tokens. A few years back I hit $2000.00. I have to admit that was fabulous. Haven't won anything like that since, but I am sure we will be going again this New Years. Thay also have a dog track and we also bet on each race. Nothing more than $2.00 on each race cuz we dont have a clue what we are doing, but that is fun also. I pick the dog by his/her name.
very displeased with 2 of my friends right now

We all work for the same company.  Our employer offers three types of employment:  Full-time, part-time and on-call.  Well, work has been low and the on-call gals have been asked to halt production and allow those of us full and part-timers to meet our quota.  They know I work full time, as I must, being the sole-provider for my family.  They both have husbands and only work on-call for spending money.  So, of course, I ran out of work today. 


Friend number one calls and tells me she's working, asking me to help her listen to a blank (which she does multiple times throughout every day.)  I don't mind giving her blank a listen, I truly don't because she needs the help.  I asked her why she was working, knowing work was low, and she stated to me that with the holidays coming up she needs a much larger paycheck this next time around.  ARRGHH!


I already talked to our supervisor about the two of them.  I feel that since we are friends, I should not have to be the one to tell them that they are taking food off my plate.  I'm just really mad that they are both doing this!!  I know there's no solution to this, I just really needed to vent!  Thanks.


our friends the carnivores
Dogs can eat raw bones, including raw chicken bones, (but not the legs as they splinter even raw) beef marrow bones are good too. Freeze them and serve them outside because they stink as they age. Also make sure that they either eat them or you throw them out as they will attract wildlife and cannot lay around outside.

Raw food is so much better than corn (the main ingredient in dog food). Their coats will be shiny, their teeth clean, and they will love you too.

Note: I do have a dog now that can't have bones that she cannot eat in ten minutes because they are so good and wonderful that she has a nasty personality change and gets protective of them. Growling at everybody over the bone pretty much nixes the treat.
Drugs v. Friends.
It is hard to say how long it lasted. I would think that this was "the year" & then have another period. Probably 3 yrs. During which I was an angry, emotional wreck but was so "inside" of the experience I couldn't really see what was happening. I lost a lot of friends. Effexor helped me a lot, but didn't start until late in the game. Wish I'd tried it sooner. Had talked to one doc about BCPs, but as my symptoms were more emotional than physical, did not seem this would be likely to help.