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Posted By: OVERDOSE?) on 2009-01-27
In Reply to: They won't or haven't said. What do you think? nm - fancy cat

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Maybe that is why she wanted to use fertility drugs...
to get her own show on TLC...heck, we all know how John and Kate plus 8 paid for that brand new spanking house in PA with tons of acres...not working on computers like they claim he does....
Depending on your age, if over 40 your fertility - sm
is supposed to drop (though I expect if I tried I'd get pregnant on the first try as both times took no "trying" at all). I'd just tell him pointblank that you do not want any more children; I presume you do the majority of the childcare, so if you had another would he help out (a lot?). Obviously you two need to discuss this, he needs to tell you why he is so gunghoe for #4 (do you have all girls, and he wants a boy; or visa versa?). Plus the affordibility factor, room in your house, etc. Is he just looking for another tax exemption? Mine tells me that if I get pregnant again I'd have to get an abortion, I told him at this late stage (41) I would not do that and he'd have to live with having a third child. I don't use BC and he uses the WM of BC, so it's up to him to make sure it does not happen. But you should probably come clean and tell him you are done being a baby factor and that you are quite happy with 3. Make sure he does not sabatoge your BCPs, or get your tubes tied or an IUD. Good luck.
Has anyone ever been on Clomid - or any other fertility drug? sm
DH and I are having fertility issues and the doc has put me on Clomid but I have yet to get a positive ovulation stick (the kind you pee on), and I am getting frustrated.  Has anyone ever been on this?
I was wondering how she paid for fertility treaments. sm
A single mom with 6 kids, paying for fertility tx, it didn't add up to me. Some foreign heiress was all I could think of. Bizarre however it unfolds.
And where did the $$ come from in order to have the fertility treatments and in vitro in the first p
I had a close friend who ironically was an obstetrical nurse who went through three trials of all this, and with medical insurance it cleaned her and her husband's bank account out, ironically, they ended up adopting a toddler and she then became pregnant NATURALLY!!! but anyway, I know first-hand the expense, what gives in this case, the parents had no money, as I mentioned below, this was reported on CNN and MSNBC.
Can't stop shaking my head in amazement! And if she were "obsessed" as a teenager with having babies for the sake of having babies, shouldn't the parents have gotten her some SERIOUS psychhiatric help, there is a big problem here, this young lady has unbelievable psychological issues that need to be addressed fast, and for her own happiness? Apart from financial, how does one mother adequately nurture and love each of these babies as individuals, all 14, giving them all the love, attention, care, instructions, etc., that they all so richly need and deserve in their little lives???
How much money rasied for Katrina, how much money for the diasters due to the tidal waves and what?
Every single one of them have had some smoke around it with the money not getting to where it was supposed to go. I did not contribute, I hardly watched, was not caught up again as I have seen things like this before. They should give a all you can give benefit for Darfur where people are being massacared each and every day. Genocide going on there each and every day. I have not seen any benefits to help them out yet.
mmmm--could be....maybe....possibly..nm
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...though it won't be soon as he still lives here, but possibly not
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Now I see the pig and possibly you laying out there!

it's 5:19 pm Sunday 8/19........now you're playing with pig...*lol*


Great webcam!!!


I would say possibly a little older
I don't have a son, but I would say I would wait until he was maybe a little bit older. I don't see anything wrong with boys wearing earrings. Like I told my husband who said he'd kick my daughter out of the house if she ever got a tattoo (she's 14 now and would be too young now and doesn't want one anyway), and I told him as long as she wasn't doing drugs or being promiscious, a tattoo would be the least of our worries. By the way, to the other posters, to each his own, but I don't see why you feel the need to criticize. My old boyfriend had an earring and my almost 60 year old neighbor has one too and he is very successful. If in time he doesn't want one he can let the hole close up. What's the big deal?
sounds like it could possibly be (sm)
a memory management error which is usually hardware related.
Either 1 or 2 - whichever I could possibly wear somewhere else. nm
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Then where is the killer? Everyone, except possibly you and 13 other people sm
know he did it and so no one is looking for this horrific, terrible person out there - why haven't there been others in that area after they were killed?
Thanks for the idea, and possibly inspiring another one...sm
Hmm, that just might work. One tree trunk is pretty wide, but good idea for the smaller ones and for my neighbor's.  Your idea got my brain working (ow, ow) and maybe for the big tree, I will try tying a *necklace* of large garden containers--the black plastic ones.  Thanks. 
If soft porn could possibly be more
NM
The first 2 sentences belonged to someone else, possibly
hating the fact they had raised the us you speak of. Again, don’t hate what you and others really missed out on, a good time and wonderful time for growing up. Times have changed and for the worse. We had no cursing, shootings, killings, bullying in the schools, we respected the teachers, kids wore what parent could afford and no one said anything to them about their lack of name clothing, we could play outside until dark, no problem, kids not kidnappened and murdered like now, what a glorious time. I raised some really good adults, not snarky ones either.
No, now she can have up to 16 minis at one time. She can't possibly leave
them for extended periods of time. This is her business. I understand that part. And I'm sorry to have to hear from a stranger that my mom has been avoiding me for 16 years because she "really" doesn't want to. Thanks.. sign
If no recollection of trauma, possibly could be gout, although
that usually occurs in the great toe.  However, anything is possible.
You looking to visit, vacation, or possibly move there? nm
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I didn't think anything could possibly make me laugh
yesteday, but I had the day off and went to a movie with my friend and her granddaughter, who is my neighbor. It was (think I have this right) When Chuck married Larry . . . that's close. Anyway, I would advise anyone who needs some laughs to see it!  I found myself laughing out loud, and in light of everything right now that felt good!  Treat yourself. It's a hoot. I knew when I saw the cast it had to be good!
Updating- the ones posting about possibly end of life
for her could be right. I just had her to the Vet's this week, just to weigh because she has lost weight (thyroid problem for 1 thing). I also have heard of animals wanting to leave as they get close to end of life so I am not shocked, in fact was wondering if this was what perhaps might be going on with her. She is around 20 and was born at my home so naturally I would hate even though I have known for some time about the age limits for cats. I do not think she is in pain, just roaming all around instead of her using napping 24/7 and then the vocals, not her at all. I will continue to love and pet as much as I can between my work hrs and if she should get to where I think in pain, definitely go back to vet's with her. I really appreciate the information above. Thanks to everyone.
But her money is her money to spend as she pleases -
I don't understand how you can think it is wrong for her to spend whatever she wants to on whatever she buys. It is their personal money they spend. It is not like they are saying give me those shoes and add it to the taxpayer's bill.

And in all actuality, they are saying spend, spend, spend to get the economy going.

I am sorry, I am jealous that some people still have plenty of money to spend and I don't, but I don't expect those people to quit spending just because I had to.
I agree. You need to talk to teacher, possibly higher up.
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AP just covered the story so quite possibly true comment. How sad.
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Sounds like sleep paralysis (and possibly hypnagogic hallucinations) to me. sm
If it has only happened to you a few times in your life, it's probably nothing to worry about. It happens to some folks now and then.

It can, however, sometimes be a sign of other sleep problems (like chronic sleep deprivation, or even narcolepsy) and, if it persists, it would certainly be worth mentioning to your physician, who may decide to have a sleep study just to investigate further.
You aren't possibly related to that vice-president some years back who SM
spelled potato incorrectly are you? LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist that one!  Have a good sandwich!
Are you the Anon who was worried abt possibly violence or hubby taking your kids? m
Best of luck to you for taking the steps to change your life. I wish you well.
drugs
Yeah - drugs certainly change people. . it is such a problem in the rural area I live in - I guess it is everywhere. . . I'm not sure why people are buried after cremation - but I do think the cremation process is cheaper because you don't have to buy a casket, so that may be one reason people opt for cremation.
drugs
Have you ever suspected drug use?
So sad - drugs are
one of the devil's favorite tools for destruction.
I definitely think she did it and I think she is on drugs. sm
Drugs will make you do crazy things. I have no doubt she did it. Too much evidence and lies stacked against her. I think she may have been upset or trying to get ravinge on her mom or something with them having a fight.
I think she's on drugs.
I can hardly stand to hear her talk on AI. She just rambles on and on. Slurred speech, loopy, eyes half closed. Classic. Hasn't she said in the past that she has chronic back pain?
drugs
I am no expert, but I do have a lot of experience with this topic, so I will cut through the bumper stickers and the pep talk.

If you want to know if he is going to be okay or not, all you really have to do is figure out if he ever took care of anyone besides himself. If he EVER, from the time he was a little boy, set what he wanted aside, made a sacrifice for someone else. If he did, then probably somewhere down the line things will turn around. If he never has, ever, not been selfish, then don't get your hopes up.

If I was in your shoes, I would call his ex-wife and find out.
So then why take any drugs at all? Or why not let's just decide which
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Then they need to pay for their own children, drugs,
alchol, whatever they want to do. Pay your own way, I have no problem with that.
Oh my! What kind of *drugs*?
Interesting story.
Considering 2 of the top 10 drugs prescribed in the USA:
$31 Billion Spent On Top 10 Prescribed Drugs, USA
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
Zoloft
Total Expenditure: $2.1 billion
Number of persons: 4.7 million

Paxil
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million


It's quite a different world than previous. I think everyone has one or thing or another/S to be anxious about.
It's out of control, if you ask me. The world, that is.


Drugs v. Friends.
It is hard to say how long it lasted. I would think that this was "the year" & then have another period. Probably 3 yrs. During which I was an angry, emotional wreck but was so "inside" of the experience I couldn't really see what was happening. I lost a lot of friends. Effexor helped me a lot, but didn't start until late in the game. Wish I'd tried it sooner. Had talked to one doc about BCPs, but as my symptoms were more emotional than physical, did not seem this would be likely to help.




OMG! I just learned my son was on drugs

What do I do? He's going to be 40 this year. I had heard years ago that he started on majjuania when he was over in Japan in the service, but didn't believe it. He and his wife broke up (supposedly) over her use of of meth and cocaine, but I didn't believe that either. Lately, he 's been bringing some "not so nice looking"  friends around here for approval and not recieiving that, so I have not seen him since Christmas Eve. Tonight, I heard he is on heroin. This is absolutely the straw that broke the camel's back. He always denied he was on meth or cocaine, but tonight's "revealation" is absolutely too much if it's true.


I'm broken-hearted and devastated over this latest "rumor/truth" (from more than 1 person) and don't really know how to bring the subject up and/or confront him with this. I'm so disappointed [in my son] and thought he was smarter than this. Now I understand why he is not actively trying to find work (unemployed since May last year).


Any suggestions? Forget rehab unless it's free. We can't afford it.He's my only son and he had a very tough life trying to live up to my husband's idea of a (step)son, but he really looks up to him now. We have another son (my stepson) who never got into drugs, why my son? Could his life been so bad?


I love my son but am thoroughly upset with this latest revelation. I just don't know what to do, and would like to stand behind him, but if drugs are his first love, I'm afraid I can't do that. I'm not really a confrontal person and don't want to lsoe my son, but if he gets caught, I'm afraid I won't/can't bail him out of jail.


Your thoughts?


Can't say too much as daughter who had always been so much against drugs
told me not long ago that she now smokes pot. She is 37 and leading her own life but she was 1 who was so against and then? She and her brother both booze it up more than I think they should but then again, both grown so??
How is he affording to buy these drugs?
He hasn't worked since May? Maybe he is also selling drugs to afford his habit. If he is living with you, I would get him out ASAP!
Yes, but approximately 26 drugs were recalled in

I have no doubt that some drugs are worthwhile

but don't you ever type a list of meds a mile long and wonder how the poor patient (especially someone elderly) is still standing upright?  Sometimes that makes me absolutely crazy.  I think there is absolute validity in natural cures and I think the medical community or government or whomever is too quick to push yet another drug - or in this case, a vaccine - on the population without knowing exactly what the side effects will be.


I strained my lower back 3 weeks ago.  My mother immediately assumed I was going to need surgery, friends insisted I needed drugs.  I went to my chirpractor.  It took several visits, but I am now pain free.  Totally, 100% natural.  (I didn't add this to start another whole debate, but just to make my point that there are alternatives.)


Have a great day!! 


Figure it has to be drugs of some sort.....
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?

I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.

By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
Drugs can affect people in different
and unexpected ways. I'm very sorry you and your son are going through this.

I had a very weird reaction to Topamax.

I hope the MD can help him. How scary.
Said the woman who did drugs and got where she is because of her father.... nm
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I was told by a child I was doing drugs --
because that is what they were teaching in elementary school.
No and things have gotten insane concerning drugs
nm
When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."