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Then they need to pay for their own children, drugs,

Posted By: Jetta on 2007-02-27
In Reply to: It always astonishes me how benign posts... - unbelievable

alchol, whatever they want to do. Pay your own way, I have no problem with that.


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Children having children not a new thing, where do you live?
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Yeah - drugs certainly change people. . it is such a problem in the rural area I live in - I guess it is everywhere. . . I'm not sure why people are buried after cremation - but I do think the cremation process is cheaper because you don't have to buy a casket, so that may be one reason people opt for cremation.
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Have you ever suspected drug use?
So sad - drugs are
one of the devil's favorite tools for destruction.
I definitely think she did it and I think she is on drugs. sm
Drugs will make you do crazy things. I have no doubt she did it. Too much evidence and lies stacked against her. I think she may have been upset or trying to get ravinge on her mom or something with them having a fight.
I think she's on drugs.
I can hardly stand to hear her talk on AI. She just rambles on and on. Slurred speech, loopy, eyes half closed. Classic. Hasn't she said in the past that she has chronic back pain?
drugs
I am no expert, but I do have a lot of experience with this topic, so I will cut through the bumper stickers and the pep talk.

If you want to know if he is going to be okay or not, all you really have to do is figure out if he ever took care of anyone besides himself. If he EVER, from the time he was a little boy, set what he wanted aside, made a sacrifice for someone else. If he did, then probably somewhere down the line things will turn around. If he never has, ever, not been selfish, then don't get your hopes up.

If I was in your shoes, I would call his ex-wife and find out.
So then why take any drugs at all? Or why not let's just decide which
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Oh my! What kind of *drugs*?
Interesting story.
Considering 2 of the top 10 drugs prescribed in the USA:
$31 Billion Spent On Top 10 Prescribed Drugs, USA
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
Zoloft
Total Expenditure: $2.1 billion
Number of persons: 4.7 million

Paxil
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million


It's quite a different world than previous. I think everyone has one or thing or another/S to be anxious about.
It's out of control, if you ask me. The world, that is.


Drugs v. Friends.
It is hard to say how long it lasted. I would think that this was "the year" & then have another period. Probably 3 yrs. During which I was an angry, emotional wreck but was so "inside" of the experience I couldn't really see what was happening. I lost a lot of friends. Effexor helped me a lot, but didn't start until late in the game. Wish I'd tried it sooner. Had talked to one doc about BCPs, but as my symptoms were more emotional than physical, did not seem this would be likely to help.




OMG! I just learned my son was on drugs

What do I do? He's going to be 40 this year. I had heard years ago that he started on majjuania when he was over in Japan in the service, but didn't believe it. He and his wife broke up (supposedly) over her use of of meth and cocaine, but I didn't believe that either. Lately, he 's been bringing some "not so nice looking"  friends around here for approval and not recieiving that, so I have not seen him since Christmas Eve. Tonight, I heard he is on heroin. This is absolutely the straw that broke the camel's back. He always denied he was on meth or cocaine, but tonight's "revealation" is absolutely too much if it's true.


I'm broken-hearted and devastated over this latest "rumor/truth" (from more than 1 person) and don't really know how to bring the subject up and/or confront him with this. I'm so disappointed [in my son] and thought he was smarter than this. Now I understand why he is not actively trying to find work (unemployed since May last year).


Any suggestions? Forget rehab unless it's free. We can't afford it.He's my only son and he had a very tough life trying to live up to my husband's idea of a (step)son, but he really looks up to him now. We have another son (my stepson) who never got into drugs, why my son? Could his life been so bad?


I love my son but am thoroughly upset with this latest revelation. I just don't know what to do, and would like to stand behind him, but if drugs are his first love, I'm afraid I can't do that. I'm not really a confrontal person and don't want to lsoe my son, but if he gets caught, I'm afraid I won't/can't bail him out of jail.


Your thoughts?


Can't say too much as daughter who had always been so much against drugs
told me not long ago that she now smokes pot. She is 37 and leading her own life but she was 1 who was so against and then? She and her brother both booze it up more than I think they should but then again, both grown so??
How is he affording to buy these drugs?
He hasn't worked since May? Maybe he is also selling drugs to afford his habit. If he is living with you, I would get him out ASAP!
Yes, but approximately 26 drugs were recalled in

I have no doubt that some drugs are worthwhile

but don't you ever type a list of meds a mile long and wonder how the poor patient (especially someone elderly) is still standing upright?  Sometimes that makes me absolutely crazy.  I think there is absolute validity in natural cures and I think the medical community or government or whomever is too quick to push yet another drug - or in this case, a vaccine - on the population without knowing exactly what the side effects will be.


I strained my lower back 3 weeks ago.  My mother immediately assumed I was going to need surgery, friends insisted I needed drugs.  I went to my chirpractor.  It took several visits, but I am now pain free.  Totally, 100% natural.  (I didn't add this to start another whole debate, but just to make my point that there are alternatives.)


Have a great day!! 


Figure it has to be drugs of some sort.....
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?

I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.

By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
Drugs can affect people in different
and unexpected ways. I'm very sorry you and your son are going through this.

I had a very weird reaction to Topamax.

I hope the MD can help him. How scary.
Said the woman who did drugs and got where she is because of her father.... nm
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I was told by a child I was doing drugs --
because that is what they were teaching in elementary school.
No and things have gotten insane concerning drugs
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When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
Maybe that is why she wanted to use fertility drugs...
to get her own show on TLC...heck, we all know how John and Kate plus 8 paid for that brand new spanking house in PA with tons of acres...not working on computers like they claim he does....
While I don't remember drugs ever being legal
I do know there was a time in this country where "recreational" drugs were legal. After all, that is where Coca Cola got it's name from (from the cocaine that use to be in it). From what I've read, seems to me there wasn't a problem with drugs in this country until it was made illegal ala prohibition. Now due to it being illegal, there is tons of money flowing in a lot of different directions as a result (the millions of jails that are being build to house all the recreational users, etc. plus the money that is made selling it, etc.). Heck, even though it's illegal, it's big business, so I can see everybody that's involved in it regardless of what side they are on fighting to keep it illegal.

Gotta be desperate for drugs. sm
Probably cocaine, powdered or even crack, but it could even be meth. It's the classic presentation--the insane behavior and desperation to get money to buy the drug of choice after being deprived for a couple of days.

You're right, best to stay away from her for good and change the locks on your doors or she could well come in while you're gone and steal everything that isn't nailed down to sell. Addicts do that all the time. So yes, please change your locks.

You cannot help this woman. She has to want help and get it for herself. Same with alcoholics, but alcohol is benign compared to cocaine and meth, and costs very little.
There are also far worse drugs used with cigarette filters
Try Googling things parents should look for regarding drug use and kids. Definitely not saying she's into anything really bad but I'd be watching her like a hawk.
Or withdrawal from other drugs, wouldn't doubt it.
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Just heard on NBC news that no illegal drugs or
alcohol were found. There was a rolled $20 bill found that had no traces of drugs. ET just reported that there were drugs found in the bill. Do any of us think the real truth will ever come out?
I also read abuse of prescription drugs.
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My money's on fertility drugs. (Possibly an
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Chronic back pain, AKA, just keep me in drugs so I can be ..
in a stupor and maybe get disability or at least a handicapped sticker for my car.
Prostitution, Pot, Booze and Recreational Drugs

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And What about prostitution? Should it be legal everywhere? It is a "victimless crime".


But doesn't the FDA extensively test drugs before marketing? nm
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago.  Perfect example:  Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago.  There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money.  These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time.  No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
Prostitution, alcohol, pot, recreational drugs, cigarettes...sm...
ALL should be illegal.

Some are not out of 'tax reasons'.

How come that people can only relax when they are under the influence of whatever?????


I should mention that I am 42, have 2 children and done with having children. nm
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You must a) not have children or b) your children are young
I don’t see them as being spoiled- I see lots of kids in the age group of one (30+) who are totally in the me scene, not just the 1 I have- she married and her husband same - a me type person. The other not spoiled but just got nasty when he did not get the money left to me and he thought he should. Just to think, this was my chosen 1 if I had to choose. Oh well, live and let live is the way I see things now.
Sure she is mentally ill and I am sure all the drugs and the drug-laced lollipops didn't help!
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Drugs.com: Read on this site about more side effects of Xanax
Other side effects have included withdrawal symptoms following either abrupt cessation or fast tapering of alprazolam. Withdrawal symptoms may include agitation, restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, convulsions, tremor, abdominal cramps, blurred vision, vomiting, and sweating.



she said *he definitely does not want more children*
but she said that HE definitely does not want anymore children...that's what the OP said so I responded based on that *fact*.... 
I am so sorry!! I have 4 children myself
30, 28, 24 and 17 - and can honestly say that we have gone through periods like this before - it is usally something really silly that gets all blown up - a misunderstanding, etc.  Enjoy your birthday to its fullest - send a gift/card to your granddaughter as you normally would and go about your business with no bitterness - it will all work out - they will be back to you soon - really! :)
Yes, and then only if there are no children.
Sorry, but tobacco is a dastardly substance that people need protection from IMO.


Does she have children. If so, what are
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I have 2 children of my own,
starting with K. This is my sil who is having the baby and she has 3 children already and has run out of K names. So, I thought I would give her a hand. Thanks for your suggestions!! I am passing them on.
All children are different
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both my children do just that and they are
both well-rounded, well-behaved, straight A students. Children have to live in this world and we as parents have to love and teach them. I know I am not the exception.
Whether having children or not is, without SM
question,your own choice, but you come across as very cynical. Perhaps you are watching too much TV or listening to talk radio. Things are not that bad. Oh sure, there is too much media attention given to Britney Spears, but most young girls, with the proper guidance, don't want to be her. There is a challange to motherhood, but most of us meet it very well.

Children & TV
How many hours a day/week do you let your children watch TV? Do they have TV's in their room? If so how do you monitor (or do you monitor) what they watch?

Have you ever banned certain shows from your house? What do you think about all those "sassy" shows on Nickelodean and Cartoon Network, like "Zach and Cody," or "Drake and Josh" or "Hannah Montana?"

I'm thinking of changing the TV rules and want to know what you all do with your kids.
Is this only to children that you know and
the parents know who the treat is from. We used to give out special home-made treats but always with a note saying who it was from. Now our neighborhood has grown so much we have a lot of children that don't live in the area. I don't want to give out something to someone and then their parents not let them eat it.