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Parents with child who threw teddy bear over the overpass (sm)

Posted By: Would you have gone after it? on 2009-01-25
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I would not! No would I have gone after that teddy bear. I would have told my child, "Oh, well, you threw it, you lost it."  That boy is 10 years old!  My rule is to never give in to anything demanded through a temper tantrum.


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And here is one with Bear & Teddy

Teddy is the Schipperke and has white feet.  He's smaller but otherwise looks very similar to Bear.  Here they are with hubby.


 


Bear and Teddy are just adorable. They might
decide to water that Christmas tree LOL.
Parents are a child's first heroes
And hopefully they will always be their best heroes.  There will always be outside influences, but in my experience, it's my mother's or father's voice in my head that most influences my behavior, whether good or not-so-good.....
Would definitely at least call the child's parents...sm

It may very well be that it is just a little kid is mad and one of those things that are very normal for kids this age to do.  You know, my dad's gonna beat up your dad kind of thing.  However, the parents need to know that their daughter is threatening violence towards your daughter and using dad as her back up.  He may not even own a gun, who knows?  I would just politely explain the situation to them and let them know you wanted to work with them so it wouldn't get blown out of proportion at school.  If she is just acting in the typical manner, the school still won't see it that way because of so many shootings, and this may cause even more trouble for your family and Maya's.  Don't know if you have this in your area, but our schools have the safe schools act, and it is a zero tolerance policy.  Statements like that here have gotten kids expelled from school, and they were not allowed back into the public system until an extensive interview with the school administration and psychiatrist and a lot of paper work.  Then the discipline is all on their record, even infractions that ended up as no threat.   


"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
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I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
The bus went off an interstate overpass - Sorry! Part of the message was cut off.
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And here is one of Teddy
The trainer came today and worked with him.  I hope he leaves the Christmas tree alone. 
Rude or not, we threw ourselves our
own housewarming party too.

We weren't expecting gifts. It was just a fun way to have everyone over, have fun and break the house in.

I didn't register, but a lot of people brought gifts that I happened to like a lot. If you register, I would only tell the people who ask if you are. I wouldn't pass out cards in invites. We also received a lot of gift cards as well. I just put those to use for buying school clothes though since we spent so much on the actual party.
My son threw college away....
My mother was gonna pay for everything including tuition, books, clothing, you name it. He went in the front door and out the back. Later my father offered to send him to some sort of trade school, all expenses paid. Son married then, 2 children, turned it down. He basically has had horrible attitude towards any job he has ever had and usually quit/fired. I have not talked with him now in about 3 years (he lives close by). I have wished he and his family the best- I quit being the bank for them. If I could make it without extra help around to raise 2 children, with their family having both parents there, children out of high school, they can certainly make it. Good luck to them.....
If only life never threw us curves?
I say seek some help from a counselor even if just for yourself right now.  If you already say "I want full custody", that's NOT fair to your child.  No one is perfect, but your child needs a father no matter what shape or size.  He may be grieving and he may grieve for a long, long time.  Have you lost your parents?  Two months is not a long time to grieve and just "get over it".  I know this sounds harsh, but I cannot believe if you really loved this guy you would post something like this as if you have zero tolerance unless your husband is perfect?  I think you should cut him some slack.  It is winter time, which can cause seasonal depression as well.  I say encourage, not discourage.  But it sounds like you've pretty much made up your mind that you're done with him.  That's such a shame for your 4-year-old.  I'd think twice before divorce as this is not teaching your son anything other than it is okay too quit if things get rough.  Marriage is not always bliss but it is these times that makes it so much stronger...  Take care but please think of your son and the fact that splitting up will affect him greatly forever....
Do you remember when they threw a fit because the women said
they wanted their faces covered on a driver's license?  Don't get me started. If they don't like the way it's done here, move back to where they came from. I just can't understand why we have to adapt the culture of everyone else while denying our own.
So it wasn't contest where they threw bird out of plane and
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I guess the age threw me. I thought he was in school as an adult. nm
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Oh really, because I knew of a guy who threw his back out on the job at Wally World and got full sm
comp for it. This is a fact. I don't know where you get your facts from, but I think you are wrong on this one. Obviously. And even if they do dispute it, it does not mean the employee won't get workman's comp for it. A LOT of companies dispute claims. If they didn't 80% of their workforce would be out on Workman's Comp. Oh, my hand hurts. I have carpal tunnel, I need workman's comp! Oh puhleeze!
Where do they allow bear hunting?
I can see it if it is in some area where they are overrun with bears that are getting in trouble, so I'm trying not to freak out here. :o> Bears are cool animals, but then again I wouldn't want to run across one hiking. It would be great to see one from a bus in Alaska, like my parents did.

Bear meat is said to be very strong and gamy, but if you can use the meat makes it a lot less politically incorrect than just hunting for sport. (DH and I used to fish, but it was strictly catch and release).

If you have a big dog, like a rottweiler or ridgeback or malamute maybe, I'd think they could help you, LOL.

I would look on the internet for recipes that use herbs. I like sage and rosemary, but I don't know if they go best with bear.

I would definitely get the fur for a rug or something. The Indians and Eskimos never wasted anything when they hunted, and that's the way to do it.

Good luck finding recipes.

No snow here, but here is Bear.
Bear thinks he's found a bunny.  It's just a stuffie though. 
I cant even bear to read the article
These girls must be monsters. Also the pro football player just indicted on charges of dog fighting sickens me. If you want to help, you can go to the Humane Society website and they have pre-written letters that can be sent off to the powers that be for him to get maximum sentencing. This world is a mess.
Visit from polar bear
Interspecies play. Click link below.
This one made me laugh because bear was one of the best
meals that I've ever had. One of our scout leaders is a hunter, and brought a bear tenderloin on one of our camping trips. He marinated it in Italian dressing and then cooked it over an open flame on a grate. It tasted very much like beef filet. He had enough for every boy in the troop to try a slice or two, and they all wanted more, including our VEGETARIAN scout! Our vegetarian actually hates veggies, so his diet is mostly bread and cheese. When we got back from the trip we told his mom, "Good news! Your son has decided that he likes meat. Bad news is, you're going to have start bear hunting!"

So, this is the only time I've had bear, and I'm sure the tenderloin is the mildest cut. But it was dee-lish quickly grilled with a simple marinade.
Bear is a very handsome boy, congrats
on the new addition to your family.
Finally pictures of Bear available.
Introducing Bear - our new black spitz mystery dog (possibly chow mix, Belgian mix, or my favorite, Swedish Lapphund!). 
Oh darn, Bear just ate Santa
right off the tree. I'm not actually a big fan of Santa decorations, but this was one of a set of cute homemade-looking, brightly painted flat ornaments that looked like they were made from bread dough or something. I don't know exactly what they were made of, but it doesn't look like he swallowed much. He's such a puppy.
Bear ate Santa off the tree...now he's...sm

eaten/torn up the ottoman?  He probably does miss you a lot Misha....It's a long day without mommy.   Cat 


Sounds like Bear needs a crate so you
don't come home to a destroyed house LOL. My dogs love their crates. How was the first day for you?
Humping the same bear toy he suckles on? Hmmm!
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Bear season opens in PA the week before T-giving.
I also have a friend who travels to Maine for bear season.

I've seen bears many times while hiking and backpacking in PA and northern NJ. (There are LOTS of bears in northern NJ, by the way.) Also, black bears are very active in Shenandoah National Park as well as the Great Smokey Mountains NP. I do believe that Shenandoah has the densest population of black bears in the world. On one day's 10-mile trek there, I saw five bears! They are very, very cool animals, and I consider it a great treat to see them. I have no experience with grizzlies, which have a different reputation, but the blacks are generally pretty shy and keep their distance. If you respect them and know how to behave in their home, coming across them in the wilderness is not usually a problem.
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
Clan of the Cave Bear / Earths Children series
There are now five in the series - Ice Age story thoroughly researched by author Jean Aul. There is a website about these as well. Ayla is one of my favorite characters.

I also am a big Nora Roberts fan.

Tom Jones - they threw panties at Ton Jones LOL

Yes, my dad's parents
My dad died when I was 18. I love my daddy, and I love my pop (step-dad). It is so sad that my children never got to meet their grandpa, but they do also have a grandpa (my pop) that loves them with all his heart. I also have a brother, who was named after my dad, and felt it only right that if anyone uses my dad's name it be his choice, not mine. Does that make sense? Thanks for your input!!!
My parents did it,
and they would say DON'T get Sears to do it. They did a horrible job.


My parents have several sm
and are very happy. I don't know how my dad went about aquiring them (he does have his real estate license)so that is probably a plus even though that is not his regular job. My parents are able to spend 3 weeks straight in Florida each year due to time shares. Two weeks at one place and one week at another. He also will swap time shares with others so they don't always have to go to the same places every year. My husband and I looked into one at Hilton Head and it just didn't seem like a very good deal to us. I didn't talk to my father first, but felt sure he would have advised against this one. This is just from my experience. I have heard horror stories from others. Good Luck.
What about your parents
Treat them as if they were your parents.  Most of the time when I was married and we went to my in-laws, we knocked but then walked in especially if it was through the garage.  I did the same at my parents, went through the sliding glass door.  They did the same at our house.  To me is is a minor thing and I did not care,  thought it was great that they liked me and felt welcome enough to come on over and drop by.   If they ended up seeing something they shouldn't then perhaps next time they would have called.  Or if someone was there that they did not plan on seeing whatever.  Sometimes we had the best last minute pot luck and card games that way.   But that is me.  
My parents are the same way. They don't like to
"invite" themselves along to the in-laws' houses on holidays, and won't even accept direct invitations from the in-laws because they think I pressured the invitation. My in-laws (and I) always figure "the more, the merrier!" When I host here, I invite all of my in-laws' extended families, but they don't want to come either. So we all wind up doing the two dinner thing and trying to schedule around EVERYONE. It's annoying. I'd rather rent a big hall and have EVERYONE show up for potluck. But nobody wants to leave their houses. Always some excuse, like young kids, but they didn't mind making me haul my young kids all over the state. And I'm the one in the family with the most kids. I say go anyway to the in-laws. Your parents can stay at your house alone for the evening, or they can come with you. It's their choice, but your plans are already made.
27 and 31 here, in the NE. Many other parents we
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it's not just the parents...
kids today have different issues to face than kids did even up to the 50s and 60s. Most kids are watching MTV before they are out of diapers. It's just easier to put something electronic in a kid's hand than have to act like a parent. Kids are having kids at earlier ages than ever. A few years ago I lived in south Philly and watched a girl about 12 yo with a baby talking to a young boy on a bicycle. She told him she wanted money for the baby and he told her his mom didn't give him any lunch money that week, so he didn't have anything to give her.

My situation has been different because of the abandonment issues my GD has had to adjust to... but get this. One reason I can not spank her is because she came to me with some violent behavior from her parents. Her mom would let her run across the room (to the mom), jump on her and wrestle until she was so over stimulated the baby would bite mom on the face...and mom just laughed. I could not spank her for biting me...one violent action did not change the first. I have had to learn many new techniques since I raised my kids...obviously spaking did not work on them! I was very firm with them and used spanking as a last resort, but I can't do that with this child. She has to trust me and spankings do not build trust. We have a great relationship now, but I constantly have to reinforce changing her behavior from what she had when she came to me, along with just asserting her own indpendence as she grows older, with my words and deeds, not with violence.
My parents used to do this...
I can remember begging my mom for the list of names and numbers and she'd never give in.  Drove us 4 kids up the wall!  But thinking back, it was fun!  Merry Christmas y'all!!!
Where are the parents???

I don't put the blame totally on Brittany (most of it I do, but not all of it).  Her parents should be hauled down with her.  Where in the world were they when this all was beginning.  If it was me my mom and dad would be right there beside me saying what in the world is going on and they would get me the counseling I needed (and not allow me to leave when I wanted to).  I don't care if she is a "pop" star or not.  If more of the parents of these "stars" would act like parents you would think their children would behave more rationally.  I look at Brittany and lots of her friends and they really are still children.  I have a brother-in-law who is 48 and acts like he's 16 and needs to be kept in line by his mom.  Maybe the parents are too worried that their famous kids will stop giving them money....who knows.  Maybe not, but it looks like it to me.


parents
I had a daughter in a similar situation. Her school had a tutoring program after schools with actual teachers and that really helped her a lot. She actually was doing okay in the class, but just didn't feel confident. The teachers made her feel more sure of herself and that seemed to make all the difference. I'd talk with the physics teacher or counselor to see if they can work with her before she drops the class.
Parents what would you do?

I'm looking for some advice.  My daughter just started the 9th grade.  She's been in accellerated/Honors classes for a few years and she has always maintained a 98+ average.   This year she's taking Physics, a 12th grade class.  She's only been back to school for less than two weeks and she's so stressed out.  She wants to drop out of the class already.  I told her to give it to the first semester which will be over in ten weeks to see how it goes.  My husband feels that she has to take it eventually so she should say in the class.  She's afraid that this course is going to ruin her grade point average that she's very proud of.  I think she should talk to the teacher and her counselor to see what advice they have.  Her teacher is one that gives the work and says do it without really teaching them how to do anything.  I'm so illiterate when it comes to science I'm no help at all.  My husband took physics years ago and he tried to work with her last night, but I'm not sure how much he remembers himself.  What would you do if your child was in the same predicament?


parents
careful, your face will freeze that way. go to your room and wait. killer was "I never thought I could be so disappointed in you. I thought we raised you better than that".
parents
how could I forget this one? Can't never accomplished anything.
never make fun of what someone does for a living as long as it is an honest job.
parents
My parents helped very little - they were very loving, but very poor. I worked, had no car, ate very simple cheap foods - that is the only way I could have done it. . I could not help my daughter much either - she got scholarships, took out loans and worked - full time one year while attending college full-time. . If parents can help, I think they should. . I think this mom is willing to help, just not change her entire life, which she should not have to.
This all comes down to the parents

I think those women are making a big mistake.  I love my sister and nephew, don't get me wrong.  But he is like that 7 yo and it drives me crazy.  BUT my sister and BIL are to blame, I feel.  He gets a toy every time they're in a store.  He gets a new toy if he's good at the dentist.  My sister feels "guilty" if he likes something and she doesn't run out and get it.  They buy him major video games just because, instead of reserving these things for birthdays or Christmas.  They will go out and buy him a $200 item in the middle of the week and when I ask what the occasion is?  Nothing, we just thought he'd like it!


He is well behaved and they don't use the toys as bribes, but yet still, it's unbelievable some of the stuff they do.  Yes, it's their only child, but I'm amazed.  Growing up when we would talk, my sister had definite opinions about what she would and would not do when she had children, and this is not how she felt back then. 


But he doesn't know anything about Monopoly or playing cards, or any of that stuff.  In my opinion, they're raising him to be materialistic and as an adult I can see him as one of those guys who always has to have the latest toys to impress the other guys.  Just my opinion.


 


You might be right, but my parents had me so...
afraid of them that I would NEVER have considered such a thing. Although I do not have a teenager yet, my hope is to have that kind of fear and, yes, respect by the time they are that age. However, I might live to eat my words yet. I just think that with a teenage girl, this might not really have been about a wedding after all--it could have been about a date to a wedding and I find that scary.
See what I mean? Some parents have no
consideration for anyone but themselves. Yes, parenting is a tough job. Some people do it better than others. But it doesn't give the less-than-adequate parents the right to inflict their out-of-control brats on others.

I love how they all go on the defensive, too, if you call them out on it. Suddenly they accuse the person objecting to their kids of not having kids themselves. (Usually not true).

It all boils down to consideration. And letting your infant scream through 3/4 of a movie, or a wedding ceremony, is pretty much akin to looking the other way while your dog drops a load of steaming poop on a neighbor's front lawn.
I would believe most parents would know
already.
You could do what my parents did to me
I stayed past curfew one too many times. First time they let it slide, second time the warned me and third time said I disobeyed, so they marched into my room, grabbed a suitcase and said if I didn't want to obey their rules than to get out and see if I could live somewhere cheaper and have a car whenever I wanted it. Even though the car was mine (old Valiant (think Chrysler made it, but it was mine), but they told me the car was not an option and would not be going with me.

It took me about 30 minutes of begging and pleading for them to let me to stay and I had to do some extra work around the house as punishment for disobeying them.

The only thing was back then 18 was legal age (drinking, etc). Your daughter is not of legal age yet. I'm not saying this is your or your daughter because I don't know you, but parents seem to always believe their kids are responsible. My sister thinks her 19-year-old son is responsible, but he shows time and time again he is not. I have a friend who boasted about how responsible her 17-year-old son is, he doesn't smoke or drink and studies in school and gets good grades and only goes out to go to the library. A few days later (Sat night) the police had brought him home as he was caught at a party drinking.

Took a lot of time for my parents to consider me responsible after some of the stuff I did (staying out past curfew, etc). Parents should not be so quick to trust their kids. They need to earn trust.
Where are parents?

Are the parents going to be home that allow this?  In Connecticut if there was underage drinking and something went wrong the parents would be in trouble as much as the rest of the kids. Just in one month we lost 5 teenagers in 3 different accidents for drinking and loosing control of their cars and running them up a pole.  A parents worse nightmare.  


I never had a problem with my two daughters with drinking underage at home. When they are at college I do not loose any sleep over it because what I don't see or know I cannot worry about it.  I trust they will make the right decisions but they are away so who knows.


My parents.
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