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Scare tactics and the economy ? sm

Posted By: no name on 2009-04-04
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Anyone else experiencing people using the current economic crisis as an "end of the world" prediction? I would have used the "OTHER" board but some of these people are too "out there." We have a few members of our family scaring the heck out of the kids in the family that this is the "end" and you know the rest. Supposedly we're only going to be here until 2012 and then it's "all over" so they better give up their wordly ways and follow them. I'm so sick of it, I feel that this is the time for all of us to band together and ride out the storm. I'm tired of people trying to "steal" my kids' minds. How do you shut these people up? Some of them are on that "social" network, assembling the family together so we can all share our resources and band together for the big coming of the end. I'm just so very upset right now -- isn't it bad enough that we are struggling. I think things will get better as we get more and more into a stable financial picture. We were just living "too high on the hog" and things will get better. I don't think we're all going to perish. Why can't we just try to be happy and get through it? Why can't it be a new beginning instead of the saved vs. the unsaved and the "end" coming?


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scare tactics
Their "logic" (sic)has been around for years. I'm an old hippie and when I was in college (a large university), every religious freak around said it was THE END because of our sinful ways. We can't change destiny...just trust God and live for each day at a time. Don't let them terrorize you & your family over something they have no way of knowing any more than you do.
Since when have belittling and scare tactics
ever done anything except exacerbate/escalate this kind of situation. Will reiterate the obvious. You should be helping yourself and deal with your own abuse issues before trying to "help" someone else, if this is the best you can do. This is also coming from someone who has BTDT.
Americans are such suckers for SCARE tactics
imposed on us daily by the corporate media.

That's not to say don't be concerned and vigilant - just not to cave everytime they decide to scare us with propaganda.

WHAT is the school supposed to DO about "it" anyway?

In MHO, call your lawyer NOW... he is teaching your children to be afraid, overreact, and believe every scare tactic that comes down the pike.
Collection Agency Tactics??

Does anyone know who I should contact, or if I have anything to complain about regarding a collection agency out of Texas. I used to actually work for a collection agency 20+ years ago out of Florida, and we would NEVER have been able to say what these people have said to me via phone, let alone in a letter I just opened. Long story short, yes, I owe HSN $200+ for a computer I bought on a payment plan of $135 a month. Before I was done with payment #2, it broke, and thus began months and months of me sending this junk back and forth with Gateway. It was a lemon model, thus why it was offered for 5 payments on HSN. After I made payment #2 and Gateway had the computer for repairs more than we had it to use, I called HSN. In no uncertain words, the sales rep told me "you bought it, you deal with it". There were lots of reviews at this point on HSN and all buyers were furious, as it was junk. HSN quickly removed the computer and reviews. So, yes, I have been lax in paying it, but it didn't even last 2 months. At any rate, they throw me to a collection agency, who calls at least 15 times a day. I am sending them payments. I get a letter today that actually says they are going to "ASSEMBLE AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT WHICY WILL OR MAY INCLUDE...INFORMATION AS TO MY CHARACTER AND GENERAL REPUTATION"... the caps and bold are their writing. It then goes on to say that I should send $$ immediately as they have "NO DESIRE TO CAUSE ME EMBARASSMENT"... Can they word things this way? I have never in all my life seen anything worded to this effect, as obviously, even though they use the word "may", it is a direct insinuation to scare me that they are going to ruin my reputation and are questioning my character, and threatening embarassment.  Seriously, has anyone ever seen this before? I don't have a lot of experience with agencies, other than working for one decades ago, and hearing horror stories on TV shows about stuff like this, which I could not believe! Does anyone have any thoughts on who I could contact?  I wonder if HSN knows this agency is saying personal stuff like this? I know companies just farm out their old debts to agencies.  Again, its a tough one for me to swallow, as the computer never lasted even halfway thru their 5 easy payment plan, but I have recognized the debt and am paying, albeit at $50 every 2 weeks. But this insulting letter was just the icing on the cake for me.  Do you think its legal?


i don't want to scare you....
This could be completely off the wall and hopefully like the other say it is a complete jealousy issue but I think you need to actually take it seriously, because as lame as this is, I was browsing on myspace... (yea im only 26! lol) but i came across some disturbing profiles... and it turns out there is a HUGE community of adults that LOVE to wear diapers and act like babies.  I honestly thought it was a joke until you just kept clicking on all these different profiles which just led you to MORE profiles (dont know if you know how it works)... but it was like this whole diaper fetish.  It really was gross to me... I know your child is only 5 years old but hopefully you can put an end to it while he's still young an impressionable.  I really went back and forth about posting this at all cause I don't want to act like I'm being pessimistic or think this has ANYTHING to do with the future of your son... i just thought I'd let you know... sorry if i offended anyone! 
What a scare!!
My dad was over here and I had an extra hamburger from Sonic. He was eating it and got choked on a pickle. I thought OMG What do I do? He was in the floor on his knees, red faced, gasping for air, and I went over and took the base of my palm and hit pretty hard between the shoulder blades.  It came out. I need to learn the Heimlach (sp?).  What a scary ordeal.
sorry, His speaking out against it would scare me too.
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That's the part that would scare me (sm)
My daughter is grown, thank goodness.  I don't have to deal with this decision.  If I did have a daughter school age, I would be more concerned with the consequences years down the road from this vaccination.  It is just too new, in my opinion, and Gov. Perry is trying to shove it down our throats.  I would strongly object.
Cities scare the poop out of me...

I don't even like to visit cities, much less live in one.  I lived 20 minutes outside of Boston my whole life and NEVER visited it for funsies.  I only went there as a kid for field trips, and to Logan Airport a few times as an adult.  I have some sort of meltdown/panic disorder when it comes to traffic, tunnels, tall buildings, and angry people...which are plentiful in that neck of the woods.  Everyone all hopped up on their fancy-pants Starbucks shouting all angry-like on their cell phones...gives me the heebs just thinkin' about it!


Yep, whole other food chain those cities are. 


Need advice - ex has pulled my kid out of school re MRSA scare

My son lives with his dad 500 miles away.  It was his birthday today, he's 13 and in 8th grade.  I called to wish him happy birthday.  He said his dad had pulled him out of school due to paranoia about MRSA (staph infections) outbreaks.  I asked him if there'd been any in his school, he said no, just some of the surrounding communities.  He said his dad won't let him go back to school until the school "does something abou it".  The ex got on the phone demanding I look up two vaccinations for it online and give my opinion "because I'm in the health field".  I type radiology, for goodness sake, and even if I was familiar with the names of the drugs, it doesn't mean I'd know all about them just because I could spell them!


Upon researching this, it appears the chances of getting fatal MRSA are pretty slim, and I had much more chance getting it when I worked on site in the hospital than my son does (son does not play sports if he can keep from it).  I think my ex is off the deep end, and I'm afraid I might have to take him to court (again) to force him to let the child go to school.  His school is closed tomorrow so I'll have to wait until Monday to call them and see how long my son has actually been absent.


Anybody have any advice for me?  How long should I give my ex to work through his paranoia before I call a lawyer (again)?  Has anyone else taken their kids out of school over this? 


it doesn't just scare you it scares the person you're in bed with too!!!
My boyfriend had these episodes where he would be falling asleep and then get real tense and start breathing heavy and fast... and i'd try to wake him... and it would take minutes. okay probably seconds... but it felt like forever.

then he would say that he was trying to open his eyes and speak, but couldn't, and describes what you are describing, with a few differences. I looked it up and found sleep paralysis. It sounds very much like this...

it only happens every once in awhile to him, but I sure get so scared when it happens. sounds silly, but it is freaky to see him tense up and know something is happening that i can't stop!!
economy
This will be worse than the great depression and it will be better for the planet when we are done, not just for America this time. I believe the recovery will stem from the green energy movement to reduce global warming. I believe the whole world will have a common goal to stop global warming and come together in a way that will benefit our children and future generations. I believe that anyone under 30 will thrive and anyone over 30 will sacrifice, work hard and be tossed aside. The people who think this is the end of the world are just lazy, not pessimistic. That would be great if there was a magic wand, but the truth is the greedy have been in charge a long time and we have to clean up the mess. I feel very happy about that actually. It is better than sitting around waiting for nothing to happen, for bad people to manipulate good people for money and treat people like cattle. It is time for us to take back our country, our planet, our neighborhoods and our future. I am very hopeful!
Economy
I disagree with the above poster who says the over 30 will sacrifice, work hard and be tossed aside. As an older female I will be getting social security which I doubt will be around for those under 30, my property taxes will be slashed as an older person, I benefit from many reductions in movies, dinners, etc for the present time. If things do not turn around, these things might be reduced and/or taken away. I am not worried about this being like the great depression. I think the people taking care of this now are highly competent to turn all this around.
I know the economy is bad but....
The cat is being too dramatic, image below.
The economy is so bad

1. I went to buy a toaster oven and they gave me a bank.


2. I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.


3. CEO's are now playing miniature golf.


4. Hotwheels and Matchbox cars are now trading higher than GM.


5. Obama met with small businesses - GE, Pfizer, Chrysler, Citigroup and
GM, to discuss the Stimulus Package.


6. McDonalds is selling the 1/4 ouncer.


7. People in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their
children's names.


8. The most highly-paid job is now jury duty.


9. People in Africa are donating money to Americans. Mothers in Ethiopia
are telling their kids, "finish your plate; do you know how many kids are
starving in the US?"


10. Motel Six won't leave the lights on.


11. The Mafia is laying off judges.


12. If the bank returns your check marked "insufficient funds," you have
to call them and ask if they meant you or them.


Are you worried about our economy?
so many jobs moved offshore, banks failing, mortgages being defaulted on. It's got me a little worried.
I am so sick about the the economy

All those people on TV are talking about a 400.00 or more increse in their mortgages. They spent over 600.00 a month on extras. This was on Operah. I can't believe that these people don't have a clue.


Between the 400.00 and the 600.00 on extras...that is what I get in one month.


I have cut back as much as I thin is possible and it is still difficult to make ends meet. I even have went so far as to unplup everything that I am not using.


How do you cope?


In this economy and this profession
this is really good to know.
Use the economy as an excuse

How about using the economy as an excuse?   You could phrase it that you don't want her to spend her money or something like that.  She may seem to enjoy it, but she might jump at the chance to cut one thing out of a crazy shopping season.


Good luck.  My family and I stopped exchanging gifts years ago.  None of my brothers or sisters have kids and we all decided that we were broke and stressed and just didn't need to do it.  It's made Chrismtas much more relaxing.  We just get together for a nice dinner and have a good time.


How the medical economy works

You obviously do not understand how the medical economy works (smiles and winks).  Docs love seeing patients once a year when they already know whats wrong (usually not much).  It's easy money just like it is when we get a standard dictation.  Since insurance will pay for it, they order all kinds of lab tests and maybe some imaging - you know, screening just in case - so they don't actually have to take the time to ask you if something is bothering you or listen to what you tell them.  That takes too much time, and time is money.  This also keeps the labs and imaging services in business (some of which the docs have invested in).  When it comes to drugs, they do not want you using the old tried and true.  That sucker is off patent and can be bought cheap and sometimes OTC with no prescription and office visit required.  No, they want to give you the latest thing that is still on patent and costs a bundle.  That's medical planned obsolescence, maybe because the docs invest in the drug companies, too.


If you remember the names of the other creams that have worked, you could try running them past a pharmacist.  He/She should be able to tell you if any are available OTC.


Re: Those economy-stimulation checks - sm


I still haven't gotten mine, and will believe it when I have it in my hand.  Worse, I just got one of those "Return Information Notices" in the mail.  Well, guess what?  The state of Calif. did a little number-rearranging, (or should I maybe call it "fuzzy math"?), and my state income tax refund has been changed from over $300 down to ZERO.  When you call the number on the website, and finally get a live person to help, they very helpfully refer you to "someone who can go over it with you", and then the system tells you it's too busy, and hangs up on you! 


And get THIS:  The actually had a LOWER taxable income than I had calculated.  So how do they figure I am suddenly owed NO refund?  It sure sounds like that's how the gov't. is funding those economic stimulus checks.  Like I'm really sure that gypping us like that is going to create an economic stimulus. 


Looks like once again, this Calif. taxpayer has been Californicated


 


 


so with the current state of the economy
Banks aren't safe anymore...I think i would buy up lots of $100,000 homes and rent them out...since the forclosure rate is so high more people wil be renting.  Then when the economy turns back around I can sell my property.  Better than putting money in the bank!
Oh good. We do try to be as conservative as possible when it comes to fuel economy.
Not just for environmental impact, but it is financially essential these days. Thankfully, our rig runs on gasoline instead of diesel, but we are still keeping an eye on cost and may have to consider at least a semi-permanent location. Before we started this adventure, we agreed when fuel and site rental costs more than a house payment monthly, we would might just blindfold ourselves, pick a page in the atlas, and toss a dart to pick our new hometown. Unfortunately, that may happen.

Why not stay safe AND support the US economy
San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica/Venice Beach, LA Jolla, Pismo Beach, etc.

Also early spring is the best time to see the Grand Canyon, Southwest, etc., before it gets hot, and the hordes of tourist busses arrive.
Good advice. In this economy, lay low. Sounds like a PT job may be in order to increase income. (
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Um, with the economy in shambles, I kinda have a problem with her wearing a pair of $500 shoes!
Her hubbie talks about Americans become financially responsible and she's walking around in a pair of sneakers that would cover my rent!