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Use the economy as an excuse

Posted By: Happy MT Robin on 2009-02-28
In Reply to: How to tell a friend not to exchange gifts? - Moo

How about using the economy as an excuse?   You could phrase it that you don't want her to spend her money or something like that.  She may seem to enjoy it, but she might jump at the chance to cut one thing out of a crazy shopping season.


Good luck.  My family and I stopped exchanging gifts years ago.  None of my brothers or sisters have kids and we all decided that we were broke and stressed and just didn't need to do it.  It's made Chrismtas much more relaxing.  We just get together for a nice dinner and have a good time.




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economy
This will be worse than the great depression and it will be better for the planet when we are done, not just for America this time. I believe the recovery will stem from the green energy movement to reduce global warming. I believe the whole world will have a common goal to stop global warming and come together in a way that will benefit our children and future generations. I believe that anyone under 30 will thrive and anyone over 30 will sacrifice, work hard and be tossed aside. The people who think this is the end of the world are just lazy, not pessimistic. That would be great if there was a magic wand, but the truth is the greedy have been in charge a long time and we have to clean up the mess. I feel very happy about that actually. It is better than sitting around waiting for nothing to happen, for bad people to manipulate good people for money and treat people like cattle. It is time for us to take back our country, our planet, our neighborhoods and our future. I am very hopeful!
Economy
I disagree with the above poster who says the over 30 will sacrifice, work hard and be tossed aside. As an older female I will be getting social security which I doubt will be around for those under 30, my property taxes will be slashed as an older person, I benefit from many reductions in movies, dinners, etc for the present time. If things do not turn around, these things might be reduced and/or taken away. I am not worried about this being like the great depression. I think the people taking care of this now are highly competent to turn all this around.
I know the economy is bad but....
The cat is being too dramatic, image below.
The economy is so bad

1. I went to buy a toaster oven and they gave me a bank.


2. I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.


3. CEO's are now playing miniature golf.


4. Hotwheels and Matchbox cars are now trading higher than GM.


5. Obama met with small businesses - GE, Pfizer, Chrysler, Citigroup and
GM, to discuss the Stimulus Package.


6. McDonalds is selling the 1/4 ouncer.


7. People in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their
children's names.


8. The most highly-paid job is now jury duty.


9. People in Africa are donating money to Americans. Mothers in Ethiopia
are telling their kids, "finish your plate; do you know how many kids are
starving in the US?"


10. Motel Six won't leave the lights on.


11. The Mafia is laying off judges.


12. If the bank returns your check marked "insufficient funds," you have
to call them and ask if they meant you or them.


Are you worried about our economy?
so many jobs moved offshore, banks failing, mortgages being defaulted on. It's got me a little worried.
I am so sick about the the economy

All those people on TV are talking about a 400.00 or more increse in their mortgages. They spent over 600.00 a month on extras. This was on Operah. I can't believe that these people don't have a clue.


Between the 400.00 and the 600.00 on extras...that is what I get in one month.


I have cut back as much as I thin is possible and it is still difficult to make ends meet. I even have went so far as to unplup everything that I am not using.


How do you cope?


In this economy and this profession
this is really good to know.
How the medical economy works

You obviously do not understand how the medical economy works (smiles and winks).  Docs love seeing patients once a year when they already know whats wrong (usually not much).  It's easy money just like it is when we get a standard dictation.  Since insurance will pay for it, they order all kinds of lab tests and maybe some imaging - you know, screening just in case - so they don't actually have to take the time to ask you if something is bothering you or listen to what you tell them.  That takes too much time, and time is money.  This also keeps the labs and imaging services in business (some of which the docs have invested in).  When it comes to drugs, they do not want you using the old tried and true.  That sucker is off patent and can be bought cheap and sometimes OTC with no prescription and office visit required.  No, they want to give you the latest thing that is still on patent and costs a bundle.  That's medical planned obsolescence, maybe because the docs invest in the drug companies, too.


If you remember the names of the other creams that have worked, you could try running them past a pharmacist.  He/She should be able to tell you if any are available OTC.


Re: Those economy-stimulation checks - sm


I still haven't gotten mine, and will believe it when I have it in my hand.  Worse, I just got one of those "Return Information Notices" in the mail.  Well, guess what?  The state of Calif. did a little number-rearranging, (or should I maybe call it "fuzzy math"?), and my state income tax refund has been changed from over $300 down to ZERO.  When you call the number on the website, and finally get a live person to help, they very helpfully refer you to "someone who can go over it with you", and then the system tells you it's too busy, and hangs up on you! 


And get THIS:  The actually had a LOWER taxable income than I had calculated.  So how do they figure I am suddenly owed NO refund?  It sure sounds like that's how the gov't. is funding those economic stimulus checks.  Like I'm really sure that gypping us like that is going to create an economic stimulus. 


Looks like once again, this Calif. taxpayer has been Californicated


 


 


so with the current state of the economy
Banks aren't safe anymore...I think i would buy up lots of $100,000 homes and rent them out...since the forclosure rate is so high more people wil be renting.  Then when the economy turns back around I can sell my property.  Better than putting money in the bank!
Scare tactics and the economy ? sm
Anyone else experiencing people using the current economic crisis as an "end of the world" prediction? I would have used the "OTHER" board but some of these people are too "out there." We have a few members of our family scaring the heck out of the kids in the family that this is the "end" and you know the rest. Supposedly we're only going to be here until 2012 and then it's "all over" so they better give up their wordly ways and follow them. I'm so sick of it, I feel that this is the time for all of us to band together and ride out the storm. I'm tired of people trying to "steal" my kids' minds. How do you shut these people up? Some of them are on that "social" network, assembling the family together so we can all share our resources and band together for the big coming of the end. I'm just so very upset right now -- isn't it bad enough that we are struggling. I think things will get better as we get more and more into a stable financial picture. We were just living "too high on the hog" and things will get better. I don't think we're all going to perish. Why can't we just try to be happy and get through it? Why can't it be a new beginning instead of the saved vs. the unsaved and the "end" coming?
Oh good. We do try to be as conservative as possible when it comes to fuel economy.
Not just for environmental impact, but it is financially essential these days. Thankfully, our rig runs on gasoline instead of diesel, but we are still keeping an eye on cost and may have to consider at least a semi-permanent location. Before we started this adventure, we agreed when fuel and site rental costs more than a house payment monthly, we would might just blindfold ourselves, pick a page in the atlas, and toss a dart to pick our new hometown. Unfortunately, that may happen.

Why not stay safe AND support the US economy
San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica/Venice Beach, LA Jolla, Pismo Beach, etc.

Also early spring is the best time to see the Grand Canyon, Southwest, etc., before it gets hot, and the hordes of tourist busses arrive.
Good advice. In this economy, lay low. Sounds like a PT job may be in order to increase income. (
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Um, with the economy in shambles, I kinda have a problem with her wearing a pair of $500 shoes!
Her hubbie talks about Americans become financially responsible and she's walking around in a pair of sneakers that would cover my rent!
No excuse
It is completely rude, but there isn't much else you can do.  You can, however, choose a consistant pickup time yourself and let her know what that is.  I have done that which creates a big inconvenience to them instead of you. :)
Excuse me?
I have a teenage daughter and I resent the implication that they are all sex-crazed nymphos.  At least, that's the way I took your post.  Generalizations like the one you just made are offensive.
ExCUSE me?????? sm
Would this be a little sexual harrassment? How terrible for your daughter!! You don't have a choice, you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. Poor girl, she's so sensitive anyway!!!!! No you are NOT overeacting. Go STRAIGHT TO THE SCHOOL WITH THIS ONE . . .
No excuse for this
The only human thing doesn't cut it. I have worked in hospitals for many years, observed nurses and MDs in action. When administering drugs, there is no excuse for massively overdosing newborns with Heparin. The nurse was probably talking her head off to somebody, had her mind on 10 different things instead of what she should have been doing - passing meds.

If she was tired, then she should not have passed meds or should have had somebody help her to doublecheck herself.

I hope they sue the pants off that nurse and the hospital, too.
EXCUSE ME???
I was correcting MY error...you need to calm down, sister...I would never, ever correct anyone else's mistake, only my own.  I made a mistake, I CORRECTED MY MISTAKE.  can't you read??????? So freakin' rude, grow up will ya!
Excuse me! sm

Lining my pockets?  Are you serious?  This is for my daughter, not me.  I have plenty of money and don't need their money.  We make over $100,000 a year.  My daughter is the one who suffered and is continuing to suffer.  What would you do if your daughter was traumatized like this? 


I think you have a lot of nerve!!!


excuse
all my typo.  It has already been a long day.  That is why I am on the forum.  I needed a break.
Excuse me, but....(sm)
...we certainly do hear of women who are cruel to animals. Just Google "woman charged with cruelty to animals" and you'll get plenty of hits.

I wonder, as a man, if I could get away with posting a sexist slur like yours about women? I doubt it!
Should have been benefit...excuse me (nm)
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Yes, but their rudeness does not excuse your own
You should always respond to an invitation, even if no RVSP, but most definitely if there is one.
Excuse, did not speak about yours
you must have been trying to read between the lines and never said anything about your dear one. You imaged.
Please excuse my ignorance sm
but do any of these have natural herbs that could counter-act birth control pills? I know that St. John's Wart can counter-affect BCP. I have a terrible problem with insomnia, seemingly inhierted from both parents, but they didn't have it until early 40s. I am 39 and have had problems for well over 10 years. Thanks!
Excuse the typos-been
a long day of typing!
Excuse, then, thought just yours but
i would have told her in that situation you thought just you and the combined kids, husband not going and you want to wait until it would be just you 2 adults so you could catch up on some girl talk- actually if me I would not even put in the girl talk but I know some people not out there like me. I would just tell her sorry, want to go when we girls can spend some time together. If invited somewhere, anyone knows you just don’t make arrangements for a third party to come along- unless you ask first if ok.
I'm sorry but that is the classic excuse
when caught with contraband. He is probably just experimenting at this point but you want to nip that in the bud. He needs to really see what the effects of that will be and that he may think he can stop at any time but the problem is he won't know that he can't stop until it has already happened. I've always felt that stressing the inside damage they are doing to themselves is important but with a teenager looks are really what they care about- try stressing how unattractive and smelly they make a person, where girls that might be interested would pass because of the smoking.
Gee whiz, everyone please excuse me
now while I play with my new puppy for a few hours, buff my toenails, eat some bonbons, put in a few lines of work to include many gross errors while I do so, come back here and read posts for a couple of houres, moan and whine a little, and then spend a couple of hours whining and moaning some more about my DH and sorry life before he comes home from slaving all day to provide me the life of luxury to which I am accustomed and entitled.  Hope you have a good day, too, Misha... enjoy your new pup!
Excuse me, you are not saying I slammed anyone, are you?
NM
Or could he be using alcohol as excuse without
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Excuse the typos sm
Oh boy, just read my post, up late last night watching Super Bowl, Pats fan here. I never heard of Bunco before, thanks for explaining. Women, don't understand why they can't be loyal, staying to myself.
Excuse me. I have a question.
Does this "you do not EVER write off an older family member" edict of yours also include those family members who are relentlessly verbally or physically abusive, unapologetic, unrepentent, constantly undermine you, belittle your children, alcoholics, drug addicts and so on? Maybe you should think that over again. Not all of us live in ivory towers.
Sounds like an excuse to me -nm
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give an excuse and
Half my relatives I have to sleep with one eye open.
Excuse me? I think this is getting kind
of weird, if not sick! This borders already on masturbation!

Can you please explain to me how a woman pregnant in her 9th month can reach her perineum with her hands and massage it for 10 minutes?

It is even advised that the spouse does this as foreplay to intercourse. Please spare me with your links!

This is pathetic!

I think it is better if we stop this discussion right here!

Get over yourself!
I meant country...excuse me!
And I am sorry, but it is Christians (meaning belivers in Christ, ok...)losing our freedom of speech.  Just think about it, anything and everything is ok to be discussed on TV, in books, on the radio (you know what I'm talkin' bout too), but mention the word *God* *Jesus* or even anything pertaining to the church, and whoa...no no...don't do that, it might offend someone.  Well I'm sorry, but sexual exploitation of women and children happens to offend ME...yet it's all over TV...homosexuality is a sin, yet it's all over TV... I won't go on because I think you're intelligent enough to see my point.  Anyhow, MERRY CHRISTMAS...HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS!!!
Please excuse the typing errors...
All I have heard today is "The patient had a giberishgiberish condition that includded gibberish, cough, hack, sneeze gibberish." You get the point.
Pls excuse all the typos, it's been a long day! -nm
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EXCUSE ME....ignorant minority???
May I remind you that Roe V Wade was the product of a handful of activist judges?? ANYwhere wholesale abortion has been on a ticket for all of US out here to vote on, it was defeated. They tried first to make it a "state" issue, and it was voted down. So activist judges overturned the will of the people and now we have abortion on demand. So PLEASE do not insinuate that the majority of people would vote FOR abortion, because you are VERY MUCH mistaken.
Just tired of people having every excuse why nothing is their
asdf
that's kind of a poor excuse (sm)
Just because they don't come to you doesn't mean you can't go to them.
whoops, excuse those mistakes in there sm
I'm in a hurry
Excuse me, what is wrong with the word
Much better than a lot of words I coulda said...my point was exactly what another poster said...kids have a way overinflated sense of entitlement and no matter how they were approached, they would have acted the same.  What was the OP supposed to do??? *Um, would you kindly exit the property?* *Um, I know you are nice, respectful children, so I'm sure you won't mind putting out the smokes, cleaning up the language, and getting outta here?* Which one? Either way, she'd have lost...which is why, if it would have been me, I'd of picked them up and thrown them out...and yes, my children are very respectful to their elders and everyone else.  I am always complimented on how well behaved my children are, thank you! ..this isn't a frowny face...it's a disgusted with the whole thing face...
Excuse me, I speak Jive.
I would love to see a clip of that part again!
He is old-fashioned, and that isn't necessarily an excuse
I am a Pastor's wife. Well, that will probably tell you volumes in itself. He is right-wing Lutheran, and I come from a moderate Lutheran background. Well, needless to say I know what you are going through except I am supposed to set an example to the ladies at church that the man is the leader of the house and we are not to publicly or privately question his decision, because that is the Biblical way. Well, sinner or not, I think this leads to men thinking they are always right, we are not their equal, we have no say, and it becomes a control issue. So... my heart is with you. I have yet to figure out this patriarchal thing. Believe me, I have voiced many times that I am good at some things, he other things and in discipline with children, we are equal not one better than the other. I think men are supposed to act responsibly not controlling and this is where the confusion comes in. When they refuse our opinion or disrespect us, I feel they are not living up to their role as protector and are acting like babies. But then again, they say I am a Pastor's wife who needs to go to Pastor's wife school, because my opinions are for equality and I have zero tolerance for domestic abuse. I am sorry if this does not answer your question or help you, but I do want to say I sympathize and you are not incorrect. There is no reason for a man to be controlling or to be rude, senseless and overbearing. When I figure out the answer to my situation I'll let you know. All I can say is to this day publicly and at home I stick up for equality, and I do not accept abusive male behavior and I don't care who doesn't like it. Zero tolerance from me. Leads to a tense household, but it could be worse, dishonesty is absolutely worse. Sorry for the soap box. Please hang in there and keep yourself safe and happy. :)
Being aware of it doesn't mean they would excuse it...SM
Especially with the bee in the bonnet that was obvious based on the follow-up post by OP. There ARE teachers and administrators who go on power trips.
excuse my lack of knowledge, but
I thought medicinal marijuana was legalized in CA some time ago. What a horrible situation, this calls for an uprising, let the power of the people be heard. That is exactly why this stuff is going on - we let it.
Excuse me very much, but it is a know n fact that Americans
have the hardest time to learn foreign languages and if they learn, they speak it with a very strong accent.