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Sounds like she is trying to get attention to me and it is working. sm

Posted By: LMT on 2008-05-18
In Reply to: What do you think a kid would do this? - truffle

Can you not call and speak to the counselor yourself rather than your son? I couldn't confront the mother either but the counselor could if she saw it fit.


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This sounds more like a way to get attention.

If he's feeling like he wants to do things himself, then let him.  I think if you feed into it then that would make him do it more.  I would simply say to him "Okay, if you're not going to be nice, then Mommy is leaving the room now".  Tell him to let you know when he can be nice and you'll come back to play or show him things.  He does probably know this behavior causes quite a stir with you.  He'll most likely grow out of it though.  I think all kids have temper tantrums.  It is part of growing up.  Some adults even still to this day throw temper tantrums, so go figure!  I'm sure things will work themselves out. 


P/S:  Reward him for good behavior and time out or not giving him attention for bad behavior.  Put a chart on the refrigerator so that he can keep track himself when he is nice and watch how fast he wants to be nice so he can put the sticker on the chart or what have you! 


Sounds like he got a LOT of attention
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I think someone liked the attention
The "I'm so appalled" act is just that, an act.

I can't imagine being that needy of male attention beyond high school or college age, but that's what I'm reading into this one.
Most likely it was done for attention, like
everything else she's been doing. That's what you have to do when everybody has already seen your shaved nether-regions, I guess.
She does it for the attention, especially if she's sm
grinning at you afterward. I would just put her in the playpen or in the middle of the livingroom floor where she can't bang into anything or hurt herself and walk away. If she doesn't get a reaction, it won't be fun anymore. Good luck. They can be real stinkers, even at that young age.
He only wants attention
He only wants back what he had before, which was someone taking care of him financially and other ways. His threats of suicide are only to make you feel sorry for him and do what he wants. basically a form of manipulation. A person who truly wants to end his life will not "threaten", but just do it. been there with others in my family. If you "allow" him to manipulate you, you are feeding his problem. Make him stand on his own and either make it or fail. If he fails enough, he will learn to make it on his own. Don't take up his whining. Don't give into his "demands." Don't answer the phone. Don't answer the door. When he can't find someone to feel sorry for him, he will move on to the next target, or try it on his own. He has just never grown up. He has been catered to all his life and wants that to not change. My mother is the same way. You have to be strong. You have to disassociate. It's hard, but "tough love." good luck to you.
Just pay attention
to what he says and does in the future. It may have had harmless intent, but if he really is looking to use you, it will keep showing up in various ways.
ya really think the cashiers even PAY ATTENTION????

She's getting waaaay too much attention
I heard she was offered a half million dollar contract to be a spokesperson for an adult DVD company.
THANK YOU for bringing that to my attention

I totally agree, and I signed the petition. I wish they would pass a similar bill about childbirth. Some women can only stay in the hospital 24 hours after their child is born (or it may be 24 hours total, I'm not sure). Or at least that's all their insurance will pay for, if it is a healthy birth with no complications.


I am currently fighting with my HMO about a medication that I desperately need. At the moment I am buying it through a "Canadian pharmacy" (based in New York state) and it is sent to me from Mumbai, India. In the U.S., the medication costs $10.00 a pill!!!  Through this pharmacy, I get it for $1.77 a pill.  But it is still more than twice what my normal co-pay would be if the $#@%#$ HMO would cover it.


So any kind of insurance reform bills that ANYONE knows about, PLEASE pass the info along. Thanks!


I'll bet if you pay attention
you will discover some fears. Some you might not recognize as fear but insecurities are fears and everyone has some.
I think that attention-seeker should definitely
give her poor mom a break, and quit sponging off her. Then she could hire a couple Super-nannies to take care of all those kids, and pay her own medical bills for them, instead of us taxpayers.

I think she'd be an excellent porn-star. She's halfway there already.
People should pay attention and put posts on
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Media and attention seekers...sm
There is nothing wrong with "children today" anymore than children of any other day.  Half the problem is the media and all the attention they are giving this and other similar things of this nature.  The media are reporting every shooting, every violent act they can get their hands on and grouping them together because people watch this crap.  Bad things happen every day and will continue to happen.  It's just part of life.  The more media attention things like this get, the more people wanting attention will copy it.
Pay attention to post above hypothyroid too
because I, after taking Synthroid for years and having the excessive hair loss among other things, came to this board and was told about Armour and I went to my physician and told him that was what I wanted and got onto that. The itching immediately went away, the coldness stays with me as soon as the temperature dips, have cold extremities always in the winter months and as I said before, still have moments of absolute exhausation where I take time to just recline and spend about 30 minutes there. I told my daughter about my diagnosis but could not find on my maternal side a previous diagnosis. Asking my father, he was unable to give me any history on his side so I figured we just ought to do a DNA. Just kidding. Good luck!
They need it all - Love, attention and Discipline (sm)
Not saying my two will never do anything wrong - they are 10 and 7 - but I shower them with love and attention - However, they know what lines not to cross too. However in the case above, it just sounds like pure out neglect -my 10 year old would not be somewhere without me knowing it to begin with (nor when he is 12 for that matter)and it would not even cross his mind to do something like that. I would think he had gone totally insane!
Could be an attention/jealously thing too - sm
Why did dad take both kids to the game? Yeah its a lot harder with a little one but he needs to learn how to act when out in public too. We started taking ours out to dinner with us at a young age. They know how to act in a resturant and behave because of it. As for his comment on how hard can it be, this Saturday I'd dump the 3-y/o on him and go out for the entire day and see how he copes. My 2 (girls) have always been pretty good, they have had their moments and I have used time-outs, spanking, taking away treats/toys, etc. But are you right on target ignoring it, just walk away and let him scream, if he makes a mess have him (help) clean it up after he is done wailing. As it maybe being a cry for more of your attention or your husbands, are you working more than usual right now, do you spend any 1:1 time with him for say 20-30 minutes a day? If he doesn't get much of that then try making some time for him and get your DH to take him somewhere too just the 2 of them (granted if he is anything like my DH he never has the kids.....mine just started doing stuff with them on his own about 2 years ago when they were 5 and 7, so I get the rare 3 hours to myself on Saturday if he takes them to the movies or bowling). But your DH definitely needs to get a clue.
he wants your attention; take an hour and play with him
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But look at all the attention you get every time you post about it. sm
As Dr. Phil would say, you're getting something out of this drama. You're getting all kinds of attention and pity. You spend a lot of time recounting all the details of every encounter on here.
I think lots of times it is the 1 you don't pay attention to
How about the 17 year old in Germany that killed so many today. He was an average student, blended in, no problems before in his life and suddenly goes on a rampage, goes back to his old high school and shoots at random. I probably would be taking a 5 years old's comment like this with a grain of salt knowing the age. I would let it go this time but if it continued then I would think who would be the most objective, the parents, someone at school and that is who I would approach. The parents might even be worse than this kid. I have seen really bad kid before and what do you know, the parent just as bad.
And I think someone is jealous, what's wrong, no male attention for you? lol
I totally agree with the OP. I too have been inappropriately treated by men, uncomfortable staring or smiling or flitatious comments and it gets a little tiresome. The problem is that men never grow up. They would do this into their 90s if they could still see!
yup - back and CRAVING attention, as usual...n/m

When did parents stop paying attention?
I'm nearly done raising my kids, and they're good kids. In addition, I've been a boy scout leader for 12 years, so often I'm around a lot of really good kids who have parents who care. Tonight I was helping out a cub scout meeting with a bunch of bright-eyed, energetic cubs. Two of our older boys, 12-year-olds from the boy scout troop were also helping out. At one point, the kids all went outside with the den leader and another parent to do an activity. This was around 7:30 p.m. and it was dark outside. One of the boy scouts came back inside to get me. He wanted to let me know that they had to move the cubbies away from some "bigger" kids outside. Turns out, there were some 9th graders hanging out at the back of the school building where we meet. They were sitting near the playground, smoking and filling an empty 2-liter soda bottle with smoke, making smoke rings. They weren't particularly noisy, but their language was atrocious. Obviously, we didn't want that example near the little ones.
So I walked over and said to them in a calm voice, "Hey folks, I'm bringing some 2nd graders around here, and I'd like for you to move off the property." They just looked at me with an "I-hate-the-world" look, rolled their eyes and said, "Yeah, sure." Of course, there was no movement. I say, "I've asked you nicely once. You move now. You don't get another warning." One of our scout dads started heading over at that point. He's a big man about 300 pounds. These kids, two boys and a girl, started spewing language you wouldn't want a longshoreman to hear. I'm no prude, and I've done less than bright things as a teenager, and I've paid my dues working with some troubled kids. I wasn't shocked by the language, though, I didn't like it at all.
I did, at one point, say to them, "Look, can you do this at home?" The girl's reply was, "Yeah, my parents aren't old."
That one actually made me laugh. I said to her, "Well, if it's ok to do this at home, then that's a good place to be. You can't be here." She started screeching about how adults just don't show respect to her, and I laughed and said, "I'm sorry you feel that way, really sorry. Because that means you don't understand that you are being treated just the way you are asking me to treat you. In fact, I'm being way more patient than I need to be." I know she didn't understand. Nothing was out of bounds with these kids. The other adult with me made a remark to them about how little he thought of their parents because of their behavior. One overly-brave kid said that his parents were fantastic and let him do whatever he wanted. Yeah. That was pretty obvious. He told us we shouldn't be disrespecting his parents. I told him that I would never want to do that. Would he, therefore, please go home, tell his parents what happened and send them back down to me. I'd be there for the next 30 minutes. No one showed of, of course.
What gets me isn't so much the smoking, the lack of concern about the example they set for the little children nearby, or the language. Certainly, all of that was awful. But the big problem was the complete lack of respect they have for anyone else, especially adults. And as they behaved like obnoxious brats, they preached about how they should be treated with respect! I hear this over and over form kids. If I can get them to actually have a decent dialogue, I usually ask the kids to define respect. They generally give me a correct definition, but that's not what they are asking for. What they really mean when they say that adults don't respect them is, "You won't let me do what I want to do."
So when did parents stop teaching kids these basic rules of conduct, and when did parents forget to really teach children about respect for others and respect for themselves? I'd be absolutely sure the world was going to Hades in a handbasket if it weren't for the really wonderful kids I work with each week. "My" boy scouts are great kids!

Unfortunately, the 12-year-old boy scout who called my attention to the loitering kids saw most of the exchange above. But later he came to me and said, "You know what? Now I know why you are constantly on top of us about our language and our behavior at scouts."
"Really? Why's that?"
"Those kids don't even realize that what they were doing was so awful. They think they have a right to argue and yell and curse. They do it all the time at school, so they think it's o.k. If you were to let us do that all the time, we'd think it was o.k., too."
Now there's a kid who will go far! And it was one of my payoff moments in scouts!
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Anon,


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I blame the parents. Children are not getting the love and attention
xx
Pay close attention to the post above...It is righter than rain!!!
NM
Imagine that men are checking me out? Hardley the case! Starved for attention? Nope just asking a qu
other people's intelligent comments, I was not looking for ignorant assumptions! Starved for attention? Not exactly. Is that a problem that you yourself are facing?

Had you have read all of my posts (OP) you would see that I was only looking for comments from others to see if this was odd behavior or not...and I thanked everyone for their comments regardless of their answers! I was not looking to start a fight here! Please do not be nasty! It is not necessary! We are all adults here!
You may be, from the sounds of your posts, sounds like an *illegal*
and that in itself is a crime. Nobody else would take 65.00 for an entire day slaving/laundry, heavy cleaning, etc. LOL. Nah, I don't think so. I'm just saying, what it sounds like to me. : )
He sounds wonderful...sounds like you two have a relationship (sm)
based on love and nothing superficial at all. I'm glad you appreciate him and are so grateful for him. Best wishes & continued happiness to you both :-)
So sorry about your working but
I was asked if I would, my regular day off but since no small kids and celebrating later in the day anyway, really made no difference this morning. Am also not employee so could have turned them down but I realized years ago that with children you want to be able to spend Christmas morning with them so think most of the time I was off. I read on these posts supposedly you make your own hours not being an employee, right?
Working??
And just what exactly is it that you are doing, if you don't mind my asking??? Ever hear of the saying, "the pot calling the kettle black"?
working out
Don't worry so much about what the scale says but go by how your clothes fit.  I've worked out most of my adult life and threw my scale away.  I weigh myself once per week at the gym.  If you continue your working out as you describe, you will find that you will weigh more than you think you should, but you will fit into a smaller size.  For ex, I'm 5ƈ".  In my head I would think my ideal weight should be about 125 but have found my ideal work-out weight is 142 which puts me in a size 10...which is ok with me.  Good luck!
Who's working anyway?

The population of this country is 300 million.


160 million are retired.
That leaves 140 million to do the work.


There are 85 million in school.
Which leaves 55 million to do the work.


Of this there are 35 million employed by the federal government.
Leaving 15 million to do the work.


2.8 million are in the armed forces preoccupied with killing Osama Bin-Laden.
Which leaves 12.2 million to do the work.


Take from that total the 10.8 million people who work! for state and city governments.
And that leaves 1.4 million to do the work.


At any given time there are 188,000 people in hospitals.
Leaving 1,212,000 to do the work.


Now, there are 1,211,998 people in prisons.
That leaves just two people to do the work.


You and me.
And there you are,
sitting at your computer, reading jokes.
Nice. Real nice.


Have fun - I''m working......nm
LOL
another working here too
going to fireworks tonight though and to a free movie in the morning...getting up early to work, cookout...swim...happy 4th and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Is it only when you are working?
Or does it happen other times? My daughter's friend has some weird thing where she cannot drive because she starts to fall asleep, but it only happens when she is driving. Or maybe your job has just gotten too boring! LOL.
You might be working too much
When you exercise, they always have you alternate days between aerobics and strength training because the muscles you use need a rest between uses. Without the proper rest between, you're not allowing the muscles to recover, which leads to chronic overuse and ultimately, pain.


Ha, just working. I am used
to every time I get up to get a drink or go to the bathromo, I always light a cigarette. That's the part I'm really fighting, but haven't given in. I really have to quit; tired of coughing all night long! Have been smoking for about 25 years adn figure it's way past time!
what's working for me

My biggest problem is that the strands of my hair are very, very fine.  Had a hair stylist tell me that was caused by hollow follicles and poor diet.  (well, I KNOW I eat awful but am trying to at least get in more water and less caffeine now).  I have no idea if she's right or not about the hollow follicle thing, but -- I went to Sally Beauty and found Folicure vitamins for hair.  I'm sure there are plenty of other brands out there.  I figured if it was a root problem it might take a while to see a difference (my hair is about 2 inches past my shoulders).  I have been taking the vitamins for a little over 2 months.  Hair is not thicker yet but seems stronger and healthier in appearance.


I also suffer from dry, brittle, frizzy hair - especially in winter.  The wonderfully helpful lady at Sally Beauty also recommended several months ago Excelsior's Millennia Mudd.  You use it after shampooing instead of conditioner, let it sit for several minutes, and then rinse out.  It has DRASTICALLY improved my hair.  I used it every day (she said this was safe to do) for a couple weeks and really noticed a difference.  Once I felt my hair was improving I cut back to 3-4 times a week now.  It has eliminated my split ends and makes my hair feel incredibly soft.


Lastly, the same hair stylist gave me this recommendation - of course, she was trying to sell me the pricy salon product but I said no and went to Walmart for a product that fit my budget better.  She said to apply a thick, creamy, leave-in conditioner on the "ends" - meaning about half the length of my hair.  Not to the roots as then it would look oily or greasy.  This you leave in and do not rinse out.  I have been using Nexxus Humectress Ultimate Moisturizing Conditioner.  Now, my hair is also naturally curly so if I brush my hair out after drying it still fluffs up considerably (kids say I'm a poodle) BUT, it is not brittle feeling and it not breaking off when I try to comb it.  (I got a free sample of Fruictese -- sp?? -- version of leave-in cream conditioner - it fells kinda sticky or tacky or something.  Did not like it as well.)


Sorry, that was a little long-winded.  This combination seems to be working well for me.  Hope it helps you too. 


um, then why are you working and he is not?
and why so many cruises, they are disgusting, food poisoning, people germs, body odor all crammed together, and someone thinks it's fun.
What is working for me
Sorry to butt in, just thought I'd share what has been working for me. I have ankle/foot pain from a bad break, so walking a lot is difficult. So, I bought a recumbent stationary bike. I've been 'riding' that for about 30 minutes a day (started out at 5 and worked my way up). I've lost about 12 pounds since Thanksgiving and that's with all the holiday eating! Not sure if it will work for you because of your knee pain, but for me it's better than walking.
I have been working
a non-MT job for about 3 weeks now.

I decided after 5 years of MT that I was becoming very anti-social and depressed. I couldn't take being home alone all day long anymore, so I went to a staffing agency and asked what they could do for me.

I wanted a position in a hospital or doctor's office, but was so eager to get out that I told them I would take anything.

I am an administrative assistant now at a non-medical place of business and I LOVE it. When I look back on my days of feeling like a hermit, I almost cry. I have become a completely different person in a matter of weeks.

Good luck to you! It's amazing what a little socialization can do for the mind, body, and spirit.
working, working, working!
My stepson will not be with us for Christmas morning so we celebrated early. I will be working tonight and all day tomorrow. Kinda nice to be done with the shopping, etc. while everyone else is hustling and bustling for last minute things. We were invited to the in-laws for Christmas dinner tomorrow night and I was asked (yesterday) to bring sweet potatoes so I will be running to the store this afternoon to get those but that's it. Hubs and I may go see a movie tomorrow afternoon as a treat to ourselves.
Try working with her-
I myself got a very young kitten from my housekeeper and she is like the Tasmanian devil but I love her with a passion. Maybe you should have gotten an older cat if you wanted 1 like Garfield, 1 that sleeps and sorta stays out of the way. My kitten has just reached the age of spaying but she has been into everything here in the home. I have had to kitten proof everything- she gets up on everything from the living room table to end tables. I have bought scatmats that I have on my kitchen table and countertops. I have tried the water bottles, 2 sided tape, chicken wire on some tables to keep her off. She is a rascal but - I love her and know she will grow out of this and plan on keeping. My bedroom door stays closed when I am out of there to keep my cats out. I will work with my girl because just too many unwanted animals out there - I do not consider them throw aways. I would just say to keep the bedroom door shut. I have not found anything really that deters mine yet- I know 1 day she is going to be that beautiful grown up tabby and well past the kitten stage.
I'm working it -
I am currently working full time at home, which is not giving me much work, part time in a hospital, and going to school full time. I do not have time to add anything else and guess what - my bills are not getting paid!

I am a month behind on my rent and my check this time is a third of what I need to pay to just pay that one thing. I am behind on my power bill and because the unit was tore up last month and the company kept telling me it was not, I just got a $300 power bill for last month that I do not know how I am going to pay...

My husband is out of work due to a WC injury and barely gets enough money to pay anything besides buy some food and put gas in the car to make sure that I can get back and forth to work at that second job...

We have lost everything we had last summer, just started getting things back on track, and now this all hits again. I've done everything responsibly that I can do. The only thing left to let go is the vehicle, then how am I supposed to get to work?

And, by the way, that second job in house only pays me a third of what I make at home when there is work available, but I continue to go there because it is guaranteed hourly income and not production based.

I have no insurance. Have not been to the doctor in over 3 years (even though after my last serious GYN procedure, I was told that I had to have regular visits every 3 months).

Now what else exactly do you think I should do? There are no more hours left to do anything else!
working holidays.
I am working Thanksgiving, schedule just fell that way. As far as Christmas goes, I'm am also scheduled to work, didn't request it off, but I work 3rd shift. I did request to work Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve to have a couple of days off for my brother's wedding that is 12/30. Working holidays doesn't bother me too much since I'm 3rd shift, but I could see how it would be a pain for those who are required to work and work days or 2nd.
I'm working, not by force sm
I always work Thanksgiving and Christmas (if there is work).  I also work the 3rd shift which makes it easier for me to do.  I love the holiday pay!
working holidays
I'm right there with ya! Love that holiday pay! lol
Then why continue working for MQ? nm
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Are you working in the evenings to
where you would not be able to pick her up at school? If it were important to the child to be in the play and someone could be on standby for a call, then try to arrange that. Do not know if I would have sent email to higher up as your daughter is in her class, no sense in it filtering down for a come back on the child perhaps.
Working At Home
For now, you could download a free Express Scribe to play your test files on. You could use the hotkeys instead of investing in a foot pedal until you know what you will need. You also can download Cute FTP. You will at least be set to test. You will need a lot of reference material to work from home. Apply, apply, apply! Your new employer will let you know what you need to work on their account. They vary widely. Good luck!