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Thank you Trose, so do I believe it will make a huge difference, NM

Posted By: anon on 2008-04-04
In Reply to: But there are a lot of people that do care - trose

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There is a huge difference between ...sm
spanking and beating. My dad used to get out his belt when I was bad. And I mean, I deserved it. Those lessons stuck in my brain, and I did not EVER break that rule again, not out of fear, but respect and I always thought twice about breaking any other rules. Even after I was past the age of spankings. I do not spank my kids with a belt, I cannot bring myself to do that, but I do not fault my dad for doing it to me when I deserved it. I also am a very nonviolent person. I will spank my kids when all the time outs and talking to don't work and nothing else seems to make the lesson stick in their head. They do not have bruises, they are not scared of me, they are happy kids. I think if a lot of other kids would have gotten the spankings they deserved when they were growing up to learn those lessons, they would not have been out shooting people or beating others up and have the issues they do now. And no, I did not grow up in the 50s. I am only 30 years old.
Explain the huge difference please. (sm)
Is it between alcohol and pot, crack and mushrooms, crank and LSD? Please, explain to me the huge difference. To me, all drugs are drugs, but maybe some are more preferential to you.
One-A-Day, green label, with ginseng, from Wal-Mart; if i do without, can tell a huge difference sm
in my energy and work production. takes a few days of taking them once i have skipped some to notice the difference for a day. then once i get going on them, i don't notice a huge energy burst unless i am without them and then i am just drained!!! FYI, don't take on an empty stomach. i usually take right after supper. they are not the huge horse pills either and i only take one a day.
OMG - huge difference! Hope you aren't as naive about your kids....wow! lol
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I switched to an unlisted number. It made a huge difference! nm
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If you want to make a difference each
month you can give $30 a month to Worldvision and sponsor a child and also help the community the child lives in. They also have a way you can give gifts at Christmas with their catalog (which I did this past year made my family cry) where you give $13 for a wheelchair! OF course it is not a high tech wheelchair but one that works well for the child that needs it. I have been doing this since 2003 it is a blessing.
What difference does it make? --sm
it all comes clean in the wash anyway. Their bowls are not any dirtier than yours are, after having eaten off of them. just my opinion.
yes, exercise will definitely make a difference
nm
Neutering also make a difference
Not immediately, but over a little time, they seem to settle in to a more serene frame of mind.
Does it really make a difference regarding the death
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What state you are in would make a big difference. sm
Maybe a local county health department? In my state, they do GYN exams for specific income brackets for free and then if over that bracket, it is based on your income.
Chic Shaper really does make a difference.
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Assuming your daughter is an adult, why make a difference?
a gift in return. If everyone is going to be together when gifts are exchanged, then I get them a little something, even if its a wal-mart gift card.

If they will not be there when you give your daughter and SIL a gift, then I guess you could skip them.

My true opinion is that adults, other than spouse and SO - do not need gifts. We do not buy the adult gifts in our family, but we have a big get together at our house and provide all the fixings and such, that is our gift.
It sort of does make a difference when they use it as a form of birth control...
just my opinion.
above msg for trose..nm
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For Trose... (btw, this is my day off :)
If you want to know what you're going to be like in Heaven, what your Heavenly body is going to be like, it's going to be like you are now, only much more Heavenly, eternal, beautiful, wonderful, thrilling & glorious! (Phi.3:21)

When the Lord created the cycles of butterflies & moths, He was illustrating resurrection. They hatch from eggs into little worm-like caterpillars. Then they wrap themselves up in a cocoon called a chrysalis, almost like a coffin, & it SEEMS they die!

BUT THEN: Spring comes & suddenly the coffin splits open & out comes a beautiful butterfly or moth! Once it was just a little crawling worm, the most despised of all creatures, & all of a sudden it breaks out into a beautiful butterfly that flies in the heavens! -- One of the prettiest creatures!

Like the difference between the grain of wheat & the full-grown, full-blown stock & head that comes from one grain, or the flower that comes from one tiny seed, that's how much better your new Heavenly body is going to be!

It will be so much more wonderful, it will be like the difference between the seed & the flower! (1Cor.15:35-38, 42-58)

You're going to be like the Angels of God! (Lk.20:36)



I DO get that, trose...and thanks :)

thanks for what you said....it's better late than never...I had a huge problem with my mother for 10 years and then 9 years....a total of 19-20 years......but in that case, SHE lost out.....SHE missed the entire journey (and was physically there but not emotionally....very bad if you're like that...to have kids anyway).  I'm fine today but took mucho years of therapy from like 8-28.....


And as a result of all that badness, I've been a better parent because of it...


out of every bad thing that happens to one in life, something good and positive comes out from that........



To trose
No....I was only thanking others for responses.....
to trose
yes, I think Obama actually addressed this saying people were sending out these e-mails and they weren't true -we have to be careful what we read on the internet - everything is not true and you kind of have to do your own research - on another note, I tried the pinapple cheese recipe you posted a few days ago - YUMMY!
LOL trose !

 



Trose, please do not take this
lightly.  A few posters thought it was nothing to worry about.  WHENEVER someone talksabout being unhappy and suicide....DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY.  Yes they may be trying for attention or doing one better than the other...you are doing the RIGHT THING..take him to a therapist or psychiatrist.  He needs to express his feelings but unfortunately, not with his parents.  Do not feel bad about that...it's hard to be honest with the folks as you know.  Keep up with all that you have been doing and even if it turns out to be nothing - YOU ARE GREAT PARENTS....some kids just need attention and not from their parents.  Hang in there...things will turn out!!!  Good luck, hugs, and my thoughts are with you.  You are doing the right thing - don't take this lightly...please.
trose....How's your son? Everything going well? nm
 
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html

Trose I wouldn't let it go at that (sm)
I haven't chimed in until now, but I would go to the school and talk to the principal. My daughter is 7 and I can't even imagine someone doing that to her. Our kids are at the mercy of their teachers unless their parents stand up for them. They have no recourse against adults who treat them badly, unless we help them. It is not a matter of being overly sensitive. I wouldn't just hope that she gets reprimanded, I would see to it. I would request a meeting with her and the principal. I had to do this once when a teacher made my son clean feces off a bathroom wall - he reported it to her and she told him to clean it up. It wasn't his!! He would never have done something like that. So my son had to clean sh*t off a wall that wasn't his and be exposed to who knows what. I think it is good that you sent her an e-mail first, because that is documentation, which she knows, and that is why she did not respond to you in writing. You go mom! Keep your cool and remain calm but let them know it is unacceptable! I let too many things slide when my kids were even younger that I already regret. No more!
Trose -- I saw your post below
and just wondering how you are . . . hoping everything is okay.  Please let us know when you can.
You sound like me, Trose
I'm 45 and my daughter is 14 and I've been taking her to concerts since she was 6. We just went to a Matchbox 20 concert and a few months ago we saw Daughtry. I think it's great when people don't necessarily act their age, within reason, of course. I think I also dress appropriately for my age. And yep, I wish I was the same weight 20 years ago. LOL. But whatever works for others is fine with me. My neighbor across the street is my age, but you'd never know it. She acts and dresses like she's 60, but she's still a friend. Long hair short hair, it doesn't matter as long as you like it.
(((((((((((hugs))))))))))) to you trose...sm
I'm so glad you took him in. That's a very scary situation, and I think you did the right thing having him talk to someone right away. I'm very proud of you...it must have been hard, even knowing that you had to.

About the eating disorder, keep an eye out for signs. I did want to say though that my hubby and all his buddies as well as my son and all his buddies say they're fat all the time. They rip on each other constantly too. They just walk up and say, *hey fat***, been going a little heavy on the cupcakes?* They all do it--no matter how skinny they are. My 12-year-old is 5 feet tall and weighs 90 pounds. Skinny as a rail, but he says all the time, *gotta feed the fat* or *fat guy in a little car*.

Now, I don't mean that you shouldn't take it seriously and watch for it (especially if his friends are concerned), but I thought you might like to hear that sometimes boys are just dumb. We (the wives) always say how mean they are and can you imagine if we did that? Oh, hey mt, (doing my best macho tone) still carrying the baby weight, huh? Can you imageine saying that to a friend?!? We'd all be in tears!


Please keep us updated, we'll be thinking about you.

One more thing--you might be able to take him into the dentist just for his check up. When they are making themselves throw up, one of the signs is the enamal on the inside of their teeth being damaged or gone.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Trose, I emailed you back...
This time with the right web address I hope.  Let me know if the one I sent doesn't work...and I hope you enjoy the site!
Hey trose - I have A child...one...by choice...LOL

  Hi trose!


I knew I'd do GREAT with one and felt I'd be inundated with 2, especially since the husband was the 2nd child......in age and maturity...*lol*...I felt like I had TWO kids for 10 years.....I divorced him, got the kid, and she's TERRIFIC and close to both parents...


Came out nice and well adjusted, considering..........*ROFL*  had I had a better marriage, I'd have had a gaggle of kids...*lol*  But one quality child is better than 3-4 ones that can and might (will) run ya ragged.  And mine is not all that spoiled, CERTAINLY NOT FINANCIALLY that's a given...*rofl*  (on her own now for a long long time but around the corner...*whew*)



Hi Trose - thanks for the great idea!
I think I'll start recording the games on the camcorder.  That should keep me out of trouble.  Then I can watch the game at home (alone) and yell all I want at the bad calls!!! Hahaha!  Thanks.
Trose: Update on swimming class

Funny you should bring this up again.   I sent the gym teacher an email the night of the 19th and she never responded until today, AFTER I sent her another email with a copy to the district office asking her why she had not responded. 


She basically said that she didn't realize that her direct questioning and her "simple suggestion" was "too direct for someone who was apparently over-sensitive." 


Offered no apology, nothing.  Her reply was not copied to the district office so I replied to her with a copy to the district office so her response went to them also. 


Since this incident last Wednesday, I have learned that this is certainly not an isolated incident but the kids were basically too scared to say anything about it.  They feared that if they complained, she would fail them and has apparently threatened to do so.


Basically, it is still unresolved.  My daughter is back to swimming today so we will see if there are any further comments tonight when she gets home.


I hope the teacher is at least reprimanded by the school district and maybe given some training on how to handle delicate situations with young girls going through the beginnings of puberty.


 


Here it is, trose - Khalil Gibran on Love
On Love



When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep,
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred fire,
that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.

All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart,
and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.

But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.

Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.

When you love you should not say,
'God is in my heart,' but rather,
'I am in the heart of God.'
And think not you can direct the course of love,
for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.

Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night,
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.

 

http://www.maryourmother.net/Gibran.html

Look trose, there are limits to how weird the things can be!! LOL (nm)
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Trose - would love to hear what happened at your SS class.
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Hey trose, I've had many yard sales over the years and have

seem some pretty surprising stuff go on, only to watch people battle off and jump in their "fancy" cars.  I've had people set a whole pile of stuff in front of me and throw a 5 at me and try to take off knowing that what they had cost more. I had one lady say "quarter?" over and over and over trying to buy two folding lawn chairs and I kept saying, "NO." She finally gave up and left.  I've had people steal right out from under my nose and jump in their "fancy" cars and take off.  I've had a whole "family" of Mexicans pile out of a very nice van and converge upon my yard sale with one person trying to keep my attention while their family members steal whatever they could from me.  When I saw a one of the kids stick an X-Box game in his shirt, I told him he had to pay for it and he tried to walk away.  When my husband came up on the boy, the father tried to start a fight with my husband.  My neighbor called the police and when they arrived they had the adults and teens in cuffs and the children in the back of a unit.  Turned out they were illegal and were arrested and hauled off and then a tow truck came and got the van. 


I haven't had a yard sale in a long, long time.


Nothing too huge, but sm

DD is struggling with college and taking classes that are out of her area of emphasis AND ones she didn't have enough high school prerequisites to do well.  She tells me she has a solid C in one and should have a C in chem.  She was afraid she was going to end up on academic and financial aid suspension, but it doesn't look likely now.  She is changing her major AT LAST to journalism!


I have a wonderful job, money in the bank and food in the house.  This might seem smallish, but many don't have this.  I remember when I could not have all 3 at once.


My house is nearly clean.  I have been fixing it up, reorganizing and moving stuff for what seems like forever (okay, only 20 months) and I am finally able to actually clean it as in clean and tidy.  It is feeling really good.


The dog got a bath last night.  She is cute, fluffy, sweet and smells like jasmine.  She is more loveable than ever right now too.


Years ago I liked her but her ego has gotten huge ....sm
and her mouth just runs off with whatever she wants to say to try to get a popular vote. I'm glad he's standing up to her and her untruthful rantings and ravings.
I would have a huge garden - nm
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Hercules because he will get huge!
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That would be a HUGE no for us - please see inside
Please don't get me wrong, churches are fine for those who believe in that sort of thing. We've been that route. We are very spiritual people but we are in no way religious. We don't believe in the creator the same way and we don't believe in the bible. Certain parts of it (for historical purposes) are fine but too much has been put into it by men that well, that's just for a different post. I just don't believe most of it is true and just another form of brainwashing for most. We don't believe in heaven or h*ll (as in physical places you go to after you die). It just doesn't exist. Heaven and h*ll is a state of mind one is in. Good and evil is in each one of us and what we do with our lives and how we treat others and live determines if we are a good person or not. Once we die we will not either go to a place in the sky floating on clouds kneeling reciting scriptures over and over and over, and neither will we go to a place down below where they claim people will be ripped to shreds being tortured over and over in pain for all eternity. Just isn't so.

If we follow any "religion" our beliefs are in the lines of Paganism (even though being a pagan is not a religion, it is a way of life). This idea (again in my opinion, so please don't anyone take this personal), but the idea that there is a "God" out there "controlling" everything is just absurd to me. There is no God out there determining what happens to our lives on a day to day basis and dishing out to us only what we can handle. We determine what happens in our lives by ourselves.

Believe me, I've been through the "religious" route. Spent birth til 12th grade going to episcopalean and methodist services and sunday school, 12th grade took classes and switched to catholic church for about two years. In my 20's I went to catholic and protestant services. After I moved away from home. I had a jewish friend and he took me to his synagogue for about 6 or 7 months. I moved again and had a friend who took me to her mormon services for about a year. Moved again and attended Baptist services for a couple months and then switched to some religion where it was just way way way creepy where everyone raised their hands in the air, closed their eyes and were chanting out things while people in the back were what I've read called "barking", and others standing around speaking mumbo jumbo that they claimed was speaking in tongues. I think they called their services charismatic. I lasted about 5 or 6 services with them and felt too creeped out and there was just something I can only describe as "evil" about it. So, I would say I've had a pretty well-rounded experience with different religions, and they are all far from what I believe in my heart. The path that I take with my creator is a personal one that I do not share with others. As for God...there is no "Him" to trust therefore no "His hands" to put my life in. There is a creator out there but the creator is not the "Him" that everyone talks about. After being out of all the different services I feel more connected with the creater than I ever did sitting in any of those buildings listening to what I can only describe as brainwashing (especially when they would post scriptures/passages from the bible, but change it a little to benefit what they were discussing). AGAIN, I have to repeat over and over and over to anyone who reads this, these are only my feelings and thoughts. I believe that everyone is entitled to believe what they want and if it works for you and you enjoy your life because of your worshipping and services then that's great for you. Just is not for me.
275 isn't that huge either - Now 475, I could see needing sm
a non-human MRI machine but 275? There are football players who fit that description.
They did a huge article on him
in Homelife magazine. It is amazing the faith and courage he has after all he has been through!
I am a huge Scrubs fan .. did you know . . .
if you go to Hulu.com, you can watch all the episodes of Scrubs and many, many other shows?  For free!!  That's how I get caught up on a lot of my shows, like Brothers and Sisters!!
That would be a huge NO - see message
I heard about that story. I think it's horrible. She is his mom and if she wants to try holistic help instead of the killer chemo drugs she has every right as a parent to do that. Who in the world does the government think they are sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. Since when is it the govt's position to tell a parent how they should be able to treat their own child. I'm a firm believer in natural medicines. I try anything before taking an aspirin. I also type oncology reports, and also my mom, grandmother, cousin, and sister-in-law all had cancer and they went the chemo route. They all got sick as anything, suffered horribly, and ended up dying. Very rarely will you hear of someone being cured with chemo. Chemo is a killer drug and the only thing it does is make the pharmaceutical companies richer while the patients suffer horrible horrible pain and death. (remember that everything I say is all just my opinion). I think what this is doing is that the people who want to go the natural route if they suspect they have cancer they probably will not go to the doctor to get a diagnosis because then their name will be turned in and they will be forced to undergo this killer treatment. It just urks me to no end that the govt is ordering the mother to have her child treated with chemo. They need to keep their noses where it don't belong. I hope the mother is able to get the holistic help she is seeking and I think anyone who turns them in is a piece of dirt (in my humble opinion). Sorry, think I went off there, I just get so frustrated with govt sticking their noses in where it doesn't belong, and the pharmaceutical companies having such control over this.
I have a plumbago and it's huge. I love it. sm
I had one when I lived in Minnesota and it came back every year despite the long, cold winters.  Down here it has gotten a touch of a freeze but it's still flourishing.  They bring butterflies and hummingbirds (unlike my hummingbird feeder).
My father's 4th wedding was HUGE
They had a big Victorian wedding. They had a huge rehersal dinner, wedding and reception. She was married once before and had a small wedding. She wanted a big wedding. Maybe your father and this lady want to have a party with their friends and family?
What zoo still has iron cages. Most have huge
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Yes, I made a huge change.
I work outside at a garden center now. The money isn't great, but it's hourly and fair, I'd say. No more being prevented from working because of equipment failure or low work. I love getting out of the house and working with people. I make a difference where I work. Surgical tech is something I looked into, but I don't think I'd like early hours or being locked in one position holding retractors for hours. I might fall asleep standing up. Interestingly, I read about a trend of having OR rooms warmer, which the surgeons HATE, but it seems to be better for the patients. When I was a secretary in the OR, I froze, but I wasn't standing under hot OR lights. Another consideration is whether you are affected by smells. It can be stinky work. The nurses complained particularly about all the cauterization smells during breast surgery, more so than intestinal/rectal surgery, oddly enough.
yes! order an appetizer - they are huge, enough for 2 (or more). NM
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If you lived in the huge city where I live what you said
might make a difference in whether you lived or not. On a daily basis, people are shot and killed here for less than asking what a teenager was saying and I am not talking about 1 death, talking 3-4 a day. We just had a child killed here when a young kid (male) got upset with the a neighborhood family, went home got a gun, sprayed the home and killed a 2 year old child in his mothers arms. If you wanted to approach the parents, a lot of people only take up for their children and think you are in the wrong for approaching them! I have grown children and of course taught them right from wrong but I am not into trying to kill myself by responding to a small aleck kid. You can ignore and then again if you would like to come here and do that, give them your life. Your choice. You cannot change every smartie kid you might run into- and then you might not have to change anyone for long… I say just ignore. I have got more sense than to get myself killed over nothing.