Trose, please do not take this
Posted By: Don't take chances on 2008-04-08
In Reply to: My son's My Space . . - Mom
lightly. A few posters thought it was nothing to worry about. WHENEVER someone talksabout being unhappy and suicide....DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY. Yes they may be trying for attention or doing one better than the other...you are doing the RIGHT THING..take him to a therapist or psychiatrist. He needs to express his feelings but unfortunately, not with his parents. Do not feel bad about that...it's hard to be honest with the folks as you know. Keep up with all that you have been doing and even if it turns out to be nothing - YOU ARE GREAT PARENTS....some kids just need attention and not from their parents. Hang in there...things will turn out!!! Good luck, hugs, and my thoughts are with you. You are doing the right thing - don't take this lightly...please. 
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For Trose... (btw, this is my day off :)
If you want to know what you're going to be like in Heaven, what your Heavenly body is going to be like, it's going to be like you are now, only much more Heavenly, eternal, beautiful, wonderful, thrilling & glorious! (Phi.3:21)
When the Lord created the cycles of butterflies & moths, He was illustrating resurrection. They hatch from eggs into little worm-like caterpillars. Then they wrap themselves up in a cocoon called a chrysalis, almost like a coffin, & it SEEMS they die!
BUT THEN: Spring comes & suddenly the coffin splits open & out comes a beautiful butterfly or moth! Once it was just a little crawling worm, the most despised of all creatures, & all of a sudden it breaks out into a beautiful butterfly that flies in the heavens! -- One of the prettiest creatures!
Like the difference between the grain of wheat & the full-grown, full-blown stock & head that comes from one grain, or the flower that comes from one tiny seed, that's how much better your new Heavenly body is going to be!
It will be so much more wonderful, it will be like the difference between the seed & the flower! (1Cor.15:35-38, 42-58)
You're going to be like the Angels of God! (Lk.20:36)
I DO get that, trose...and thanks :)
thanks for what you said....it's better late than never...I had a huge problem with my mother for 10 years and then 9 years....a total of 19-20 years......but in that case, SHE lost out.....SHE missed the entire journey (and was physically there but not emotionally....very bad if you're like that...to have kids anyway). I'm fine today but took mucho years of therapy from like 8-28.....
And as a result of all that badness, I've been a better parent because of it...
out of every bad thing that happens to one in life, something good and positive comes out from that........
To trose
No....I was only thanking others for responses.....
to trose
yes, I think Obama actually addressed this saying people were sending out these e-mails and they weren't true -we have to be careful what we read on the internet - everything is not true and you kind of have to do your own research - on another note, I tried the pinapple cheese recipe you posted a few days ago - YUMMY!
LOL trose !
trose....How's your son? Everything going well? nm
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html
Trose I wouldn't let it go at that (sm)
I haven't chimed in until now, but I would go to the school and talk to the principal. My daughter is 7 and I can't even imagine someone doing that to her. Our kids are at the mercy of their teachers unless their parents stand up for them. They have no recourse against adults who treat them badly, unless we help them. It is not a matter of being overly sensitive. I wouldn't just hope that she gets reprimanded, I would see to it. I would request a meeting with her and the principal. I had to do this once when a teacher made my son clean feces off a bathroom wall - he reported it to her and she told him to clean it up. It wasn't his!! He would never have done something like that. So my son had to clean sh*t off a wall that wasn't his and be exposed to who knows what. I think it is good that you sent her an e-mail first, because that is documentation, which she knows, and that is why she did not respond to you in writing. You go mom! Keep your cool and remain calm but let them know it is unacceptable! I let too many things slide when my kids were even younger that I already regret. No more!
Trose -- I saw your post below
and just wondering how you are . . . hoping everything is okay. Please let us know when you can.
You sound like me, Trose
I'm 45 and my daughter is 14 and I've been taking her to concerts since she was 6. We just went to a Matchbox 20 concert and a few months ago we saw Daughtry. I think it's great when people don't necessarily act their age, within reason, of course. I think I also dress appropriately for my age. And yep, I wish I was the same weight 20 years ago. LOL. But whatever works for others is fine with me. My neighbor across the street is my age, but you'd never know it. She acts and dresses like she's 60, but she's still a friend. Long hair short hair, it doesn't matter as long as you like it.
(((((((((((hugs))))))))))) to you trose...sm
I'm so glad you took him in. That's a very scary situation, and I think you did the right thing having him talk to someone right away. I'm very proud of you...it must have been hard, even knowing that you had to.
About the eating disorder, keep an eye out for signs. I did want to say though that my hubby and all his buddies as well as my son and all his buddies say they're fat all the time. They rip on each other constantly too. They just walk up and say, *hey fat***, been going a little heavy on the cupcakes?* They all do it--no matter how skinny they are. My 12-year-old is 5 feet tall and weighs 90 pounds. Skinny as a rail, but he says all the time, *gotta feed the fat* or *fat guy in a little car*.
Now, I don't mean that you shouldn't take it seriously and watch for it (especially if his friends are concerned), but I thought you might like to hear that sometimes boys are just dumb. We (the wives) always say how mean they are and can you imagine if we did that? Oh, hey mt, (doing my best macho tone) still carrying the baby weight, huh? Can you imageine saying that to a friend?!? We'd all be in tears!
Please keep us updated, we'll be thinking about you.
One more thing--you might be able to take him into the dentist just for his check up. When they are making themselves throw up, one of the signs is the enamal on the inside of their teeth being damaged or gone.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Trose, I emailed you back...
This time with the right web address I hope. Let me know if the one I sent doesn't work...and I hope you enjoy the site!
Hey trose - I have A child...one...by choice...LOL
 Hi trose!
I knew I'd do GREAT with one and felt I'd be inundated with 2, especially since the husband was the 2nd child......in age and maturity...*lol*...I felt like I had TWO kids for 10 years.....I divorced him, got the kid, and she's TERRIFIC and close to both parents...
Came out nice and well adjusted, considering..........*ROFL* had I had a better marriage, I'd have had a gaggle of kids...*lol* But one quality child is better than 3-4 ones that can and might (will) run ya ragged. And mine is not all that spoiled, CERTAINLY NOT FINANCIALLY that's a given...*rofl* (on her own now for a long long time but around the corner...*whew*)
Hi Trose - thanks for the great idea!
I think I'll start recording the games on the camcorder. That should keep me out of trouble. Then I can watch the game at home (alone) and yell all I want at the bad calls!!! Hahaha! Thanks.
Trose: Update on swimming class
Funny you should bring this up again. I sent the gym teacher an email the night of the 19th and she never responded until today, AFTER I sent her another email with a copy to the district office asking her why she had not responded.
She basically said that she didn't realize that her direct questioning and her "simple suggestion" was "too direct for someone who was apparently over-sensitive."
Offered no apology, nothing. Her reply was not copied to the district office so I replied to her with a copy to the district office so her response went to them also.
Since this incident last Wednesday, I have learned that this is certainly not an isolated incident but the kids were basically too scared to say anything about it. They feared that if they complained, she would fail them and has apparently threatened to do so.
Basically, it is still unresolved. My daughter is back to swimming today so we will see if there are any further comments tonight when she gets home.
I hope the teacher is at least reprimanded by the school district and maybe given some training on how to handle delicate situations with young girls going through the beginnings of puberty.
Here it is, trose - Khalil Gibran on Love
On Love
When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep,
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.
For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.
Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred fire,
that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.
All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart,
and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.
But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.
Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.
When you love you should not say,
'God is in my heart,' but rather,
'I am in the heart of God.'
And think not you can direct the course of love,
for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.
Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night,
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.
http://www.maryourmother.net/Gibran.html
Look trose, there are limits to how weird the things can be!! LOL (nm)
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Thank you Trose, so do I believe it will make a huge difference, NM
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Trose - would love to hear what happened at your SS class.
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Hey trose, I've had many yard sales over the years and have
seem some pretty surprising stuff go on, only to watch people battle off and jump in their "fancy" cars. I've had people set a whole pile of stuff in front of me and throw a 5 at me and try to take off knowing that what they had cost more. I had one lady say "quarter?" over and over and over trying to buy two folding lawn chairs and I kept saying, "NO." She finally gave up and left. I've had people steal right out from under my nose and jump in their "fancy" cars and take off. I've had a whole "family" of Mexicans pile out of a very nice van and converge upon my yard sale with one person trying to keep my attention while their family members steal whatever they could from me. When I saw a one of the kids stick an X-Box game in his shirt, I told him he had to pay for it and he tried to walk away. When my husband came up on the boy, the father tried to start a fight with my husband. My neighbor called the police and when they arrived they had the adults and teens in cuffs and the children in the back of a unit. Turned out they were illegal and were arrested and hauled off and then a tow truck came and got the van.
I haven't had a yard sale in a long, long time.
yo trose? What is *normal*? Normal means
*normal*? that only means one has a preconceived idea of what sanity is....
which I don't - so I have no answer......*lol*
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