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Trose I wouldn't let it go at that (sm)

Posted By: Lisa on 2007-09-25
In Reply to: Trose: Update on swimming class - not happy

I haven't chimed in until now, but I would go to the school and talk to the principal. My daughter is 7 and I can't even imagine someone doing that to her. Our kids are at the mercy of their teachers unless their parents stand up for them. They have no recourse against adults who treat them badly, unless we help them. It is not a matter of being overly sensitive. I wouldn't just hope that she gets reprimanded, I would see to it. I would request a meeting with her and the principal. I had to do this once when a teacher made my son clean feces off a bathroom wall - he reported it to her and she told him to clean it up. It wasn't his!! He would never have done something like that. So my son had to clean sh*t off a wall that wasn't his and be exposed to who knows what. I think it is good that you sent her an e-mail first, because that is documentation, which she knows, and that is why she did not respond to you in writing. You go mom! Keep your cool and remain calm but let them know it is unacceptable! I let too many things slide when my kids were even younger that I already regret. No more!


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For Trose... (btw, this is my day off :)
If you want to know what you're going to be like in Heaven, what your Heavenly body is going to be like, it's going to be like you are now, only much more Heavenly, eternal, beautiful, wonderful, thrilling & glorious! (Phi.3:21)

When the Lord created the cycles of butterflies & moths, He was illustrating resurrection. They hatch from eggs into little worm-like caterpillars. Then they wrap themselves up in a cocoon called a chrysalis, almost like a coffin, & it SEEMS they die!

BUT THEN: Spring comes & suddenly the coffin splits open & out comes a beautiful butterfly or moth! Once it was just a little crawling worm, the most despised of all creatures, & all of a sudden it breaks out into a beautiful butterfly that flies in the heavens! -- One of the prettiest creatures!

Like the difference between the grain of wheat & the full-grown, full-blown stock & head that comes from one grain, or the flower that comes from one tiny seed, that's how much better your new Heavenly body is going to be!

It will be so much more wonderful, it will be like the difference between the seed & the flower! (1Cor.15:35-38, 42-58)

You're going to be like the Angels of God! (Lk.20:36)



I DO get that, trose...and thanks :)

thanks for what you said....it's better late than never...I had a huge problem with my mother for 10 years and then 9 years....a total of 19-20 years......but in that case, SHE lost out.....SHE missed the entire journey (and was physically there but not emotionally....very bad if you're like that...to have kids anyway).  I'm fine today but took mucho years of therapy from like 8-28.....


And as a result of all that badness, I've been a better parent because of it...


out of every bad thing that happens to one in life, something good and positive comes out from that........



To trose
No....I was only thanking others for responses.....
to trose
yes, I think Obama actually addressed this saying people were sending out these e-mails and they weren't true -we have to be careful what we read on the internet - everything is not true and you kind of have to do your own research - on another note, I tried the pinapple cheese recipe you posted a few days ago - YUMMY!
LOL trose !

 



Trose, please do not take this
lightly.  A few posters thought it was nothing to worry about.  WHENEVER someone talksabout being unhappy and suicide....DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY.  Yes they may be trying for attention or doing one better than the other...you are doing the RIGHT THING..take him to a therapist or psychiatrist.  He needs to express his feelings but unfortunately, not with his parents.  Do not feel bad about that...it's hard to be honest with the folks as you know.  Keep up with all that you have been doing and even if it turns out to be nothing - YOU ARE GREAT PARENTS....some kids just need attention and not from their parents.  Hang in there...things will turn out!!!  Good luck, hugs, and my thoughts are with you.  You are doing the right thing - don't take this lightly...please.
trose....How's your son? Everything going well? nm
 
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html

Trose -- I saw your post below
and just wondering how you are . . . hoping everything is okay.  Please let us know when you can.
You sound like me, Trose
I'm 45 and my daughter is 14 and I've been taking her to concerts since she was 6. We just went to a Matchbox 20 concert and a few months ago we saw Daughtry. I think it's great when people don't necessarily act their age, within reason, of course. I think I also dress appropriately for my age. And yep, I wish I was the same weight 20 years ago. LOL. But whatever works for others is fine with me. My neighbor across the street is my age, but you'd never know it. She acts and dresses like she's 60, but she's still a friend. Long hair short hair, it doesn't matter as long as you like it.
(((((((((((hugs))))))))))) to you trose...sm
I'm so glad you took him in. That's a very scary situation, and I think you did the right thing having him talk to someone right away. I'm very proud of you...it must have been hard, even knowing that you had to.

About the eating disorder, keep an eye out for signs. I did want to say though that my hubby and all his buddies as well as my son and all his buddies say they're fat all the time. They rip on each other constantly too. They just walk up and say, *hey fat***, been going a little heavy on the cupcakes?* They all do it--no matter how skinny they are. My 12-year-old is 5 feet tall and weighs 90 pounds. Skinny as a rail, but he says all the time, *gotta feed the fat* or *fat guy in a little car*.

Now, I don't mean that you shouldn't take it seriously and watch for it (especially if his friends are concerned), but I thought you might like to hear that sometimes boys are just dumb. We (the wives) always say how mean they are and can you imagine if we did that? Oh, hey mt, (doing my best macho tone) still carrying the baby weight, huh? Can you imageine saying that to a friend?!? We'd all be in tears!


Please keep us updated, we'll be thinking about you.

One more thing--you might be able to take him into the dentist just for his check up. When they are making themselves throw up, one of the signs is the enamal on the inside of their teeth being damaged or gone.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Trose, I emailed you back...
This time with the right web address I hope.  Let me know if the one I sent doesn't work...and I hope you enjoy the site!
Hey trose - I have A child...one...by choice...LOL

  Hi trose!


I knew I'd do GREAT with one and felt I'd be inundated with 2, especially since the husband was the 2nd child......in age and maturity...*lol*...I felt like I had TWO kids for 10 years.....I divorced him, got the kid, and she's TERRIFIC and close to both parents...


Came out nice and well adjusted, considering..........*ROFL*  had I had a better marriage, I'd have had a gaggle of kids...*lol*  But one quality child is better than 3-4 ones that can and might (will) run ya ragged.  And mine is not all that spoiled, CERTAINLY NOT FINANCIALLY that's a given...*rofl*  (on her own now for a long long time but around the corner...*whew*)



Hi Trose - thanks for the great idea!
I think I'll start recording the games on the camcorder.  That should keep me out of trouble.  Then I can watch the game at home (alone) and yell all I want at the bad calls!!! Hahaha!  Thanks.
Trose: Update on swimming class

Funny you should bring this up again.   I sent the gym teacher an email the night of the 19th and she never responded until today, AFTER I sent her another email with a copy to the district office asking her why she had not responded. 


She basically said that she didn't realize that her direct questioning and her "simple suggestion" was "too direct for someone who was apparently over-sensitive." 


Offered no apology, nothing.  Her reply was not copied to the district office so I replied to her with a copy to the district office so her response went to them also. 


Since this incident last Wednesday, I have learned that this is certainly not an isolated incident but the kids were basically too scared to say anything about it.  They feared that if they complained, she would fail them and has apparently threatened to do so.


Basically, it is still unresolved.  My daughter is back to swimming today so we will see if there are any further comments tonight when she gets home.


I hope the teacher is at least reprimanded by the school district and maybe given some training on how to handle delicate situations with young girls going through the beginnings of puberty.


 


Here it is, trose - Khalil Gibran on Love
On Love



When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep,
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden.

For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun,
So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth.

Like sheaves of corn he gathers you unto himself.
He threshes you to make you naked.
He sifts you to free you from your husks.
He grinds you to whiteness.
He kneads you until you are pliant;
And then he assigns you to his sacred fire,
that you may become sacred bread for God's sacred feast.

All these things shall love do unto you that you may know the secrets of your heart,
and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life's heart.

But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure,
Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing floor,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears.

Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.

When you love you should not say,
'God is in my heart,' but rather,
'I am in the heart of God.'
And think not you can direct the course of love,
for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.

Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
But if you love and must needs have desires, let these be your desires:
To melt and be like a running brook that sings its melody to the night,
To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.
To wake at dawn with a winged heart and give thanks for another day of loving;
To rest at the noon hour and meditate love's ecstasy;
To return home at eventide with gratitude;
And to sleep with a prayer for the beloved in your heart and a song of praise upon your lips.

 

http://www.maryourmother.net/Gibran.html

Look trose, there are limits to how weird the things can be!! LOL (nm)
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Thank you Trose, so do I believe it will make a huge difference, NM
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Trose - would love to hear what happened at your SS class.
nm
Hey trose, I've had many yard sales over the years and have

seem some pretty surprising stuff go on, only to watch people battle off and jump in their "fancy" cars.  I've had people set a whole pile of stuff in front of me and throw a 5 at me and try to take off knowing that what they had cost more. I had one lady say "quarter?" over and over and over trying to buy two folding lawn chairs and I kept saying, "NO." She finally gave up and left.  I've had people steal right out from under my nose and jump in their "fancy" cars and take off.  I've had a whole "family" of Mexicans pile out of a very nice van and converge upon my yard sale with one person trying to keep my attention while their family members steal whatever they could from me.  When I saw a one of the kids stick an X-Box game in his shirt, I told him he had to pay for it and he tried to walk away.  When my husband came up on the boy, the father tried to start a fight with my husband.  My neighbor called the police and when they arrived they had the adults and teens in cuffs and the children in the back of a unit.  Turned out they were illegal and were arrested and hauled off and then a tow truck came and got the van. 


I haven't had a yard sale in a long, long time.


yo trose? What is *normal*? Normal means

*normal*?  that only means one has a preconceived idea of what sanity is....


which I don't - so I have no answer......*lol*


LOL-I wouldn't think twice about getting the pup sm
When I lost my cocker 2 years I was looking around for another 2 weeks later. I couldn't stand the thought of not having my own dog. Sure, hubby has his Golden, but my faves are cockers and I absolutely fell in love with my new guy's face on the internet. We drove 2 days later about 40 miles and picked him up. I melted when I saw his little face cocking to the side when I spoke to him. Of course, I still miss my other dog and my new one looks just like her, only the personalities are SO different. And the Golden finally got his playmate. He's just like a pup again. When we first introduced the two, we did it real gradual and took our time with it. The new pup was VERY feisty and the Golden wasn't used to that with before. LOL-my other cocker was 14 when she died. She didn't play at all, only slept and ate. Big change for the Golden.
wouldn't do it...
I lived in a mobile home for 9 years before we moved up to a house. I would never go backwards. You're still going to end up paying more. Like others have said, they do depreciate, not appreciate. Lot rent goes up and up and up each year (at least for us it did, started at 125 and ended up at 269 in 9 years). They are definitely not built well, at least ours wasn't and we supposedly had a better made one. Good luck with your decision.
I wouldn't do it...

I wouldn't, either. I have a 4-year-old daughter who knows why I wear a bra and understands she will one day when she's a young woman. I'm sure the girls who do have bras so young are a little heavier, which brings on earlier development. I can understand that then. When we walk in a store, she loves to look at all the pretty pink pajamas and clothes, but she knows she can only look. I'll say maybe Santa will bring her something, but I won't allow her to beg me for something. My boys don't, either. My husband and I tell them before going to the store exactly what we are getting and that's it. I think 5 is too young for a bra. Same thing for pierced earrings, not until she's old enough to understand them and how to take care of them. This is a gimmie-gimmie world, but it's up to us parents.


Good luck!


I wouldn't...
No way would I invite myself and my family to stay at someone else's house. It'd be way uncomfortable and unpleasant, IMHO...if he insists, make him call and ask them.
I wouldn't eat it
Left over food should be refrigerated within 2 hours, otherwise bacteria and such can start growing and it is unsafe to eat

I would not appreciate it, but I wouldn't be mad about it.
My golden is on a strict diet of dry dog food only. Any sort of table food or "human" food is a no-no. She has allergies to some "people" food. That would be the only reason I would not appreciate anyone feeding her, but then again, I don't leave her outside very long. She is a family dog and a house dog.


Well, which one do you like better? I wouldn't put too much sm
emphasis in the relationship of the man who isn't as interested in you. If he's acting like that now it might be a sign that he's not ready, has ulterior motives, or just not that into you. Good luck!
I wouldn't do it
I'm pretty sure the hospital can't actually take anything from him. In his shoes and being elderly, before I did any of that stuff I would look into reverse mortgage. He could perhaps get enough to pay all of it or very close and then make payments on the remainder.
Thanks! That's why I wouldn't want
it to be a set date - just in case I didn't have the funds in there.
No, I wouldn't.

While you may know these boys like they were your own, what if they have 'friends' that show up with other ideas?  Also, what about her reputation?  I know times have 'changed' but having a reputation to be proud of as your daughter gets older is definitely something that has not changed.  I wish you the best with this. 


He probably wouldn't want you either.
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In this day and age, I wouldn't do it.

Plus, it sounds like people will know since you know the bus driver.  You just never know who will be lurking.  I'm sorry, but I trust no one.  It is worth it to pay a neighbor or someone else until the child is at least a teenager.  Sorry, but my daughter is in 3rd grade, she'll be 9 in January, and I would not leave her here for an hour by herself especially if the bus driver knew it.  JMO.


 


I wouldn't do it s/m

rather be safe than sorry.  I have a third grader as well and there is no way I would let him stay home alone.  He will be nine in March.  I don't even leave him home alone to run to the store, which is 10 minutes away.  We live in the country, but it wouldn't matter where I lived.  Things happen so fast and you just never know.  It isn't just about not trusting your child, but trusting others as well.  What if a solicter was walking up to the house at the same time as your child?  What if someone was breaking into your house as your child walked through the door (this actually happened to my neighbors!  The boy was 14 and scared out of his mind.  He walked into the house and ran out when he realized what was happening.)


I also have a 19, 17, almost 9 and 7 year old.  I think my oldest was around 13 when I first let him stay home alone, but it was for short periods of time and we went over so many things.  What to do in case of a fire, answering the door and phone, etc. 


I wouldn't tell them anything.
I don't think your kids will say, "Thanks, mom! That's inspiring and enlightening. I will definitely not make the same mistakes that you made."

It's more likely that they'll someday say, "You did it, and everything turned out just fine. So why can't I?"
Well, he sure wouldn't....sm
....sleep in my bed or do his laundry with mine! :D :D
I wouldn't know....sm
I can't afford a cleaning lady on MT pay. You must have a better paying job than I do.

I would be annoyed too if my stuff got broke.
I wouldn't do it.
Something's up with this guy and you don't know what it is. This kind of thing always comes back to bite you in the butt. I think it's an odd request and he's hiding something.
I wouldn't send it and this is why . . .
People like this get off on how they are hurting people. She can see in your email that you are hurting, and although it is a valiant and kind effort on your part, she will see it as a sign of weakness and groveling, which is what would delight her.

I'm so sorry you're put in this situation. You sound like a kind, gentle person and you certainly don't deserve the way she treats you.

The only thing I can suggest is to be around her as little as possible (family gatherings, traditions, etc.) and always choose to be in another room, on the opposite end of the dinner table, etc., as physically far away from her as possible.

Continue to be pleasant, don't stoop to her level, and you don't owe her an apology for anything.

She's the one with the problem, not you.
I wouldn't worry too much!
My husband and I, when we first got married, would go to Bath and Body Works and pick out scents that we both liked. It was something that we both enjoyed. I wouldn't put too much into it. Offer to rub some lotion on his back after his bath or hop in the tub with him!
I wouldn't trim it beforehand either.
But add some pineapple slices with toothpicks and maraschino cherries to that brown sugar and cloves and you've got yourself one goodtastin' ham...     
I wouldn't register.
home.  Housewarming is more like a gathering.  Some people may bring something and some might not.  I did a combo housewarming/holiday time (beginning of December) open house.  Most brought bottle of wine, holiday decoration, etc.  Some did not bring anything at all.  It sure was fun though.  Have a great time.
Wouldn't bother me at all.
In fact, I know a single guy who will not date women with children. Don't blame him.
I do have a conscience and wouldn't
kill another person unless I had to such as defend myself, my family, etc. However, I would have an abortion in a heartbeat. It's nothing but a medical procedure to me.

I like how you say "even though you don't believe in god you must have a conscience." LMAO, like maybe I don't because I don't believe in god.

My beliefs (actually lack there are, lol) are certainly threatened by yours. You want to take away my right to have an abortion because of your belief in god. Obviously, I don't care what your god thinks since I don't believe in it.

I just don't understand why you care so much what other people do, think, and believe. I don't get it. I don't care what you think, believe in, or do as long as it doesn't threaten what I want to do. Why not just let other people be and worry about yourself? Why is that so hard for some people?

Also, please save your mercy comment for someone who wants or asks for it because I certainly don't. I'm quite fine the way I am and don't need anyone or anything to valid me or my life.
so ya think if ABC fired her, they wouldn't tell the
       
Well if everyone did it, then it wouldn't be a hoax, right?
Can't blame someone for trying :)
I wouldn't be comfy without.
Need my feeling of security. Even under pajamas.
You wouldn't necessarily know but (sm)
First of all, it is very rare that is passed on to children from their mother before or during birth. Second, there are not really treatments for children - the treatments used for adults are so harsh that they feel children cannot handle them. I have it from a blood transfusion I got 27 years ago and have had no health problems from it, did not give it to my husband, have two children. Had my first child tested and that was negative. Have not had my second child tested at all. I will be happy to talk with you more about this if you would like to e-mail me.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised (sm)
if there are A LOT of effects from microwave cooking that we don't know about.  It's scary when you think about what you could be doing to yourself EVERYDAY.