The View Update
Posted By: LinK on 2007-05-22
In Reply to: The Batchelor - LinK
Well, they were both on today and they're still together. She's moving to Hawaii and they are still engaged, but they basically said they had to fall in love all over again away from the cameras so there's no wedding date.
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What if your daughter was a smoker? Would you allow her to smoke in the house simply because she can smoke at school?
That said ... ask your daughter for the name of the rock group and CD, and then do a Google search for the lyrics.
I need a view from the outside
What to do about a family member who accused me of something that was totally untrue and too hurtful to even discuss, and that person's birthday is in two days. We had a heated discussion and I asked for an apology and got none. I have never, ever let her birthday go before. My mom is elderly and I don't want her hurt by this. What should I do? I am so angry I can't see straight right now and hurt. This an immediate family member, not extended. Do I suck it up once again and send a card and then show up at her dinner? We usually go out for our birthdays. Would be interested in any comment you might have. Either way it does not seem like the thing to do.
She's on The View right now
Just another view.
Where do one persons right to choose trump another persons right to choose. If this were a government run pharmacy, I could see requiring sales of certain items or medications. However, if it is privately owned, my right to choose to use birth control does not trump another persons right to decide what is sold in someone's privately owned store.
Another view
I believe I stopped having themed parties when my daughter was about 11 or 12, but when we went to see family, they took her and me out to dinner or lunch, had birthday cards, cake, or a special meal at home--maybe some money if they could afford to do so. One reason might be the cost of gifts that older children have come to expect, also the fact they become more choosy and harder to please about styles of clothing, as well as "toys." I had a friend who gave her children elaborate Easter baskets until they married and left home...that's what she liked to do--and that was fine! I just could not afford to do what she did for her children, ever, for any occasion.
It's remembering a special day that counts, not the party or gifts; I'm thankful my daughter learned that earlier than some and is passing that viewpoint on to my granddaughter.
The view - new host
I saw Roseanne on the view a few weeks ago and she seems to have really mellowed. But to watch her everyday - no way. I think she would turn into a Rosie or worse. I would like to see another younger person on - perhaps a bit older than Elisabeth - but someone definitely in their 30's early 40's and someon who doesn't begin with an agenda. Then I might watch again.
Did anyone watch The View this--sm
morning and get the name of the book/author Whoopie was talking about? It was "The Education of???" It is about a young Indian boy and his life. It was an Ophra book club book until she found out the author (who is now dead) was in the KKK and she pulled the book from her list. We live in Cherokee, NC and my kids are into tribal life.
so true - especially considering my view
in house was no windows and cinderblock walls in a hospital. Love the birds of prey - have a lady here that rehabilitates and I have seen kestrels, vultures, red-tailed, barred owls, great horned owls and more up close and personal. Just saw a huge hawk overhead- freaked me out - haven't seen him around - couldn't train the binoculars fast enough but he looked bigger than a red tail.
I can see it from that point of view though (nm)
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How'd you like to have this view from your bathroom?
The presidential suite bathroom at New York's Mandarin Oriental. The 2,640-square-foot suite rents for $14,000 a night.
a different point-of-view
If you don't like your SIL, why would he want to help you? Is it possible you've conveyed this dislike of him through your actions to him or that your daughter has shared your feelings about him with him? If so, then I can see why he wouldn't feel obliged to help. More than likely, he feels like he's being used. If he's not good enough for your daughter, why is he good enough to help you move?
a kid's point of view ...sm
I just had conversation with a fellow Sunday School teacher about what GIFTS would be good to give this kids this Christmas. At one point this gal asked her son (12 yrs. old) if he had any ideas what the kids would like to get. His response "gee, mom, I thought Christmas was about GIVING, not getting." Out of the mouth of babes, right? !!
Maybe it's adults who get too hung up on what we do or don't do for gifts, activities, etc. Bet your children are just glad to have a good mom !!
I think your view does not generally match
up with most.. She looks like a real gold-digger to me. What about others out there?
My view of Hayley was if you've got it SM
flaunt it. However, the evening she wore that halter top with her boobs jiggling all over the place, was a bit much. If they jiggle that much, you need to have some type of support, and they claimed she was a devout Christian. Yes, Christians can wear skimpy clothes, but no jiggle please.
Yes, I'm probably just jealous! LOL!
Rosie Leaving The View
Just watching The View. I know a lot of you wil be happy. Rosie just announced that she's leaving The View. I didn't catch exactly when she was leaving or why, but she did mention her children as a factor.
It's about time! Now I can watch the View without ...sm
getting annoyed when she starts her tirade and turning off the TV. My lunch time will now be pleasant again!
Thank you so much for sharing your point of view (sm)
I really appreciate you sharing your story. His dad is in the picture but they are polar opposites. I do have a couple of questions I want to ask you but I better get back to work for now - I'll ask later and hopefully you will check back and won't mind answering. Thanks again!
Whoopie! New co-host of the view is
Whoopie Goldberg!
I know am going to watch again!
Rosie just turned my stomach. Blechhhhhh.
Good job, Babs. 
They were on the View today, did exactly same dance sm
with the slap included. She wasn't outraged, she was acting/dancing.
From a man's point of view on same sex lines
He told me just this morning most guys do not want to be on chat lines with other guys, do not want to even see things like that nor talk about it even. He says most guys he knows shy away from anything even resembling gay issues, no magazines, no chat lines, nothing. He works at a trucking firm and he says never hears other discussing subjects like this. He thinks there is more than just the chatting going on. This is from my man's point of view.
Look at it from their point of view. You have lived there 20 sm
years and may live there another 20 - they want to update. You don't have a lease - you are month-to-month and although you have been an ideal tenant - it is their property and they cannot do their renovations with you in there. I would try to rent another unit in the building if possible - but not sure you have any legal right to stay there - but hoping for your sake I am wrong!!
The View. Dress or jeans?
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Here's the pizza guy's point of view
http://tipthepizzaguy.com/
Why is it that when confronted with a different point of view,
passages from the bible? That seems to be some people's answer to everything they can't (or won't) understand. The bible (like the I-Ching, the Torah, the Quran, etc.) is merely a fundamental of one's belief, and passages and ideas can be tweeked and quoted in different contexts to come out meaning pretty much anything you want them to. That it why not of that can be taken literally - it's merely a rough draft, if you will.
The thing is, you have every right to your beliefs, but you have no right to force others to conform to them so as not to offend you. You all need to grow thicker skins and realize that not everyone is going to want to limit themselves to a small, small way of thinking.
They talked about this on The View for 2 days and
even to the point as to how they have sex and that's ALL going to be revealed on her show tonight. I'm definitely not going to watch. Those 2 make me sick, especially now that she/he is pregnant again and due in June! BW thinks she's doing the world a favor by doing this special report.
The reason it kept its female parts was to have kids. What gets me is they never heard of adoption? Why not adopt? Because they wanted to make money, that's why.
I don't know how many times they pointed out that she is now a legal male on all records, SS#, birth (how'd they accomplish that?), marriage license, medical history, etc. If she/he is a legal male, she/he shouldn't have the reproductive organs. Period.
I feel sorry for the kids. They will be so confused because they are going to tell them as soon as they're old enough to speak and/or understand.
This world is going to h---- in a handbasket.
Now Roseanne is supposed to host The View? SM
 If they want a kvetchy Jewish woman to host, I would be glad to oblige. But Roseanne? Oy Vey!
WRONG-they were on The View live today..n/m
Google can now see via street view INTO HOMES
Google Zooms In Too Close for Some
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Mary Kalin-Casey and her cat, Monty, at home in Oakland, Calif. A Google map service can zoom in so closely on buildings that it has caused Ms. Kalin-Casey and others to complain to the company and on blogs.
Published: June 1, 2007
OAKLAND, Calif., May 31 — For Mary Kalin-Casey, it was never about her cat.
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Monty the cat was visible in a photo showing a street in Oakland.
Ms. Kalin-Casey, who manages an apartment building here with her husband, John Casey, was a bit shaken when she tried a new feature in Google’s map service called Street View. She typed in her address and the screen showed a street-level view of her building. As she zoomed in, she could see Monty, her cat, sitting on a perch in the living room window of her second-floor apartment.
“The issue that I have ultimately is about where you draw the line between taking public photos and zooming in on people’s lives,” Ms. Kalin-Casey said in an interview Thursday on the front steps of the building. “The next step might be seeing books on my shelf. If the government was doing this, people would be outraged.”
Her husband quickly added, “It’s like peeping.”
Ms. Kalin-Casey first shared her concerns about the service in an e-mail message to the blog Boing Boing on Wednesday. Since then, the Web has been buzzing about the privacy implications of Street View — with varying degrees of seriousness. Several sites have been asking users to submit interesting images captured by the Google service, which offers panoramic views of miles of streets around San Francisco, New York, Las Vegas, Miami and Denver.
On a Wired magazine blog, for instance, readers can vote on the “Best Urban Images” that others find in Street View. On Thursday afternoon, a picture of two young women sunbathing in their bikinis on the Stanford campus in Palo Alto, Calif., ranked near the top. Another showed a man scaling the front gate of an apartment building in San Francisco. The caption read, “Is he breaking in or has he just locked himself out?”
Google said in a statement that it takes privacy seriously and considered the privacy implications of its service before it was introduced on Tuesday. “Street View only features imagery taken on public property,” the company said. “This imagery is no different from what any person can readily capture or see walking down the street.”
Google said that it had consulted with public service organizations and considered their feedback in developing the service, which allows users to request that a photo be removed for privacy reasons. A Google spokeswoman said the company had received few such requests.
For instance, Google worked with the Safety Net Project at the National Network to End Domestic Violence, which represents shelters for victims of domestic violence nationwide, to remove pictures of those shelters. “They reached out in advance to us so we could reach out to our network,” said Cindy Southworth, founder and director of the organization.
Not everyone believes the service raises serious privacy concerns.
“You don’t have a right to ‘privacy’ over what can be seen while driving the speed limit past your house,” wrote a Boing Boing reader, identified as Rich Gibson, in response to Ms. Kalin-Casey’s complaint. Others dismissed her as a crazy cat lady.
Edward A. Jurkevics, a principal at Chesapeake Analytics, a consulting firm specializing in mapping and imagery, said that courts have consistently ruled that people in public spaces can be photographed. “In terms of privacy, I doubt if there is much of a problem,” Mr. Jurkevics said.
Still, the issues raised by the service, thorny or merely funny, were perfect blog fodder. The hunt was on for quirky or potentially embarrassing images that could be found by wandering the virtual streets of the service.
There was the picture of a clearly identifiable man standing in front of an establishment offering lap dances and other entertainment in San Francisco. The site LaudonTech.com showed an image of a man entering a pornographic bookstore in Oakland, but his face was not visible.
Others pointed to pictures of cars whose license plates were clearly readable. One pointed to images captured inside the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, a controversial location for photography in this high-security era. On Lombard Street in San Francisco, various tourists who had come to photograph the famously curvy street were photographed themselves.
Google said that the images had been captured by vehicles equipped with special cameras. The company took some of the photographs itself and purchased others from Immersive Media, a data provider.
“I think that this product illustrates a tension between our First Amendment right to document public spaces around us, and the privacy interests people have as they go about their day,” said Kevin Bankston, a staff lawyer at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group. Mr. Bankston said Google could have avoided privacy concerns by blurring people’s faces.
Back at her apartment, Ms. Kalin-Casey acknowledged that plenty of information about her — that she manages an apartment complex, that she was an Editor at the film site Reel.com — is already easily accessible through Google and other search engines.
“People’s jobs are pretty public,” she said. “But that doesn’t mean they want a shot of their sofa on Google.” She has asked Google to remove the image of her building, which was still online as of Thursday evening.
When a reporter first arrived to interview her, Monty the cat was visible in the window.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/technology/01private.html?em&ex=1180843200&en=83156047690c5c2c&ei=5087%0A
At my last in-house job I had a rear-view mirror
I kid you not. My work station was situated so my back was to the door and I'm like you - when I am concentrating on something I get startled very easily. But usually I would catch a flicker of movement in the mirror and look over so people couldn't sneak up on me. In fact, people who didn't know the mirror was there were really surprised when I said hello to them without even turning around!
So disappointed in Whoopi today on The View!
I live in the deep south and talking about Michael Vick today Whoopi is so misinformed. I have sent the show an email and hopefully it gets to her attention but having said that, she was saying how dogfighting was a cultural thing here in the "deep south." I was born and raised in the south and know of no one who condones this type of inhumane behavior. with her having said that with such authority as really knowing the facts, I think puts southerns in a terrible light. I myself am a huge animal lover with lots of pets and her statements really offended me and I am sure other southerns. Maybe she will get enough feedback to acknowledge she might ought to research a little further before making overall statements about how southerns are.
Here is another truck driver's wife's view
My husband was older than yours when he (and I) married. He was 49, first marriage. We spend a tremendous amount of time together, he even has his computer setup in my workroom. When he wants downtime, he has his own room for his guitar strumming and then a real stay-around type person. I love the time we are together so don’t know what to say to the original poster but not much of a marriage there if no time left over for wife.
I really see and feel strongly about both points of view here. sm
I will say I am a Catholic, and a divorced one. I am not practicing at this point, but I am not an unbeliever...exactly. I consider myself a gnostic Catholic, and that is a story for another day.
The so-called Christian morals we have in this country are SELF-IMPOSED. They are with all religions. I consider myself a Christian, so I don't believe in sin because well, Christ died on the cross for the forgiveness of sin...even BEFORE we think about sinning. So, some of this I don't buy into.
If anyone thinks they have the slightest idea of what God wants them to do, they need therapy! WHY would any of us think we know the mind of the Divine??? I don't care how religious you are, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.
I was in an extremely abusive marriage. He abused me, the kids, our minds, our bodies, our hearts, our souls. I was married in the Catholic church and I am still married in the church, having a divorce without an annulment. I made the commitment to keep only to this one man and that I have done. I live celibate for a number of reasons and my spoken commitment in the Catholic church is one of them.
Their respective marriages are over and not because of each other. They are free to be together if they choose to do so. Being arrogant enough to think he knows what God would want, yes he needs therapy! I think he is a bad bet for her because he will always come right back to what God would want, has no ability to exercise the Free Will God gave him, can't think for himself and would be pretty useless as a husband. This may, in fact, be what drove his wife to kick him out! Milquetoast!
F11 didnt work and I am finding nothing under View on my toolbar. sm
Thanks for your suggestions. Does anyone know how to make that darn paragraph symbol go away? I have those and a bunch of arrows all over my document!
Loved that movie too. Realistic view of women.
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Is that to me? I'm not that young. But my mother shares your point of view (sm)
I think it's an old school way of thinking that if you are not married you can be with whoever you want.
Luv luv luv John Cusack Regis and Kelly or The View
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I'm afraid we are giving the wrong view of Christianity sm
Christians believe that every person on Earth is a sinner, and for our sins to be forgiven, we believe that Jesus was and is God's son and that we can pray to God and tell him that we believe Jesus died for our sins. There is plenty of evidence to be found to show that Jesus was not just some nice guy or prophet who died on a cross. Believe me, I looked into it when I had doubts. As for adherence to religious dogma, if you study the teachings of Jesus himself, you will see that he was against those who clung too tightly to their religious beliefs, the Pharisees, who thought they were better than others. Jesus did not hang around ultra-religious pious people, but instead hung around those who were hated in their community, and caused quite a bit of gossip because of it. He stopped the stoning of a woman who was caught having unmarried sex with someone else's husband and said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No one threw a stone. That is how it is supposed to be.
I having a standing appt to view YouTube every Sunday. Best part is
the enjoyment of forwarding them to my friends for their listening pleasure. MUSIC IS THE BEST MEDICINE, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE EVER COMPLAINS OF ADVERSE SIDE EFFECTS OR ALLERGIC REACTIONS.
Thanks for the update. I'm sorry about
your brother and his family. What a shame. I'm glad Sasha had a good day. It must be really hard for you, because you probably want to pour your heart out to your brother about Misha, but you probably don't feel comfortable doing that with his loss, too. Well, I'll be thinking about you and sending up prayers, now for your whole family. I hope tomorrow is a better day, and so on, and so on.
Thanks for the update
Hi Stephanie. Glad to hear that your trip to the doctor was helpful. I know I really need to
get into the exercise too. Never was that big on exercise before, but now with the pain and fatigue, it is really hard to get motivated. I will just have to force myself. Yuck!!!
Update
I should add that I already get weekly massages and have for the last 4 years. My therapist has been advising me to try chiro for about 3 of those years. Of course, I waited until I really hurt before I went! I asked a friend of mine where she was going and she said that she really trusted him, so I decided to try where she goes. He took a detailed history and 2 x-rays. He also gave me a little adjustment, which has helped a little. It was just gentle pressure. I go back tomorrow to see about a treatment plan.
Thank you very much to everyone who offered suggestions of what to look for. Your back is really nothing to mess around with!
Update on dog from below sm
The poor thing died. I'm so heartsick. The police want an official statement from all of us who saw this morning (there were 4 of us). The owner said her dog was "poisoned." I'm going up to the station in a while to talk with the chief. I'll have more information later.
Update on my vet job
So I started out just cleaning nights and giving the animals fluids/meds on the weekends and cleaning more. One of the day girls fell down some stairs so the vet asked me to fill in for her. I got a crash course in doing anesthesia! I really like it but have had a couple animals stop breathing a few times and one his heart actually stopped. I almost peed my pants when that happened. I also got to do x-rays and an EKG on a dog Monday. If only this job paid better than transcription
Update......
Well, I just checked my account again and the $2420 is back in the account due to non-sufficient funds. There is, however, a $34 non-sufficient funds fee that will be refunded back to me after the dispute is over. I know that in the big picture of things this does not sound like a lot of money, but it's my money I worked for and intend to get back. I also called the bank back and made sure that PayPal could not try to take out the money again since it was reversed due to NSF. After the dispute and we know more information, I can totally freeze PayPal from ever taking any money out of my account again. Right now it can only be done for the exact amount they tried to take out yesterday. I also told PayPal to take every bit of information they had on me out of their system, that I would never be needing their services again.
The scammers just didn't count on me being a poor working girl with little money left at the end of the month. Maybe they should give working a try instead of trying to steal other people's hard-earned money.
Thank you all for your replies. This just makes me all the more aware of what I am doing on-line. I have bought many items on-line, and this is the first time anything like this has happened to me. If they hadn't been so greedy, I probably would have had to wait out the whole ten days.
Thank you for the update sm
I started to ask yesterday but didn't send my post through because I thought it might be to painful. Please know that many here are thinking about you. Prayers.
Thanks for the update. That was
enjoyable to read.
Sounds like the birds appreciate each other already.
Yesterday I had a great time watching several cardinals bathing in my sprinkler. It is so hot that they stayed in the water for hours. My impatiens appreciated the extra-long shower they received because the cardinals were so cute. It's not my day to water today, but the cardinals show up now and then, hoping.
They ignore the shallow birdbath.
Thank you for the update
At least the police know about the situation. Maybe they can have a talk with the owners when they return.
If you know anyone who doesn't live in your neighborhood who would like to have a sheltie - you know, if it were me, I would give it to them. The neighbors have been gone so long, if the dog disappears one night, who is to say what happened, right? They don't deserve to have a dog if they are going to treat it this way.
JMHO 
thanks for update
Hi Trose,
Glad you called your brother and went to your doc today....ERs on the wknd are rough. Hope you get feeling better soon. Keep us all updated. Cat
Update...
First of all, thanks to everyone for their thoughts.
I went to the hospital myself and began asking questions of the charge nurse. She was very helpful and reviewed the chart and also got on the phone to the various doctors to answer my questions.
The problem is not what I thought it was. He WAS evaluated by a doctor and even had a CT scan in the first 30 minutes after he was admitted. None of the family knew this as no one had made it to the hospital at this point. Apparently, FIL just did not remember this. I guess the moral to this is do not let a patient out of your sight even for a short period of time.
He is being kept n.p.o. due to the head injury and in case they needed to operate (which by the way they are doing tomorrow to relieve compression on the spinal cord.) He was not given dextrose through his IV because of its potential to cause swelling, which is not a desired effect in a patient with a head injury. He did get food trays today, but will not receive anything else until after his surgery first thing in the morning.
Thanks again for everyone's recommendations.
An update...
Well, I had a heart to heart with my daughter yesterday. I broke down in tears and just told her how disappointed I was in her decision to become sexually active and how my heart was broken for her. She cried and said she didn't want to do it again, so I hope she was being honest with me. I found out more disturbing information on her loser boyfriend having to do with some legal trouble he's been in. We are giving her a chance to break up with him (she doesn't know that we know about the probation, arrests, etc.), but if she doesn't, we may press charges against him, just to get rid of the loser.
Backtracking a bit, our son works for the sheriff's department, along with a lot of his buddies, who did some checking on this guy, and dug up a laundry list of trouble he's been in. Our son is talking to our daughter today, telling her what he knows, and giving her til tonight to break it off completely with this guy, or he's telling her he'll file charges himself against this boy. He's already checked it all out and there are things we can get him on, but we really, REALLY don't want to go this route. It would be so hard on our daughter. I just want the boyfriend to disappear, go away, and leave her alone. So now, it's not so much about s-e-x anymore, but about her getting herself into some legal trouble by association with this idiot.
AND...his mother told my DD's best friend and my DD that she would LIE TO US about the whole situation if need be. How can a mother allow a girl to hang out with her loser, ex-con son??? It is beyond me...if it were my son, I'd tell the girl to run, not walk, away from him, he's nothing but trouble.
Anyway, thanks y'all so much for the support and advice. I think I handled it ok. I think she was shocked and surprised at how upset I was. I just admitted to her that I didn't expect this so soon, that I really didn't know how to handle it, and that I was disappointed in her actions, BUT that her father and I both love her very, very much and we will always be here for her, no matter what happens.
It was really emotional, but good I think for the both of us. Her 2 best friends came in in the middle of it all, and they too spilled their guts to her, so that helped also. We all cried and laughed, and talked. BTW, I don't mention her father much, but he's here...we're married and living together...all 3 of my kids have the same father. We've been married over 20 years now. He's mad, upset, disappointed, and just chomping at the bit to get his hands around this kid's throat, of course...that's how men handle things, right? But overall, he's been great.
Thanks again, y'all!
Thanks for the update...sm
Hi Deb,
I'll check in with his mom's web page to see what kinda hats he prefers (baseball caps, knit caps, perhaps something felt, really funky like they wear at ski resorts, doo rags or those little wrap caps with flames that bikers sport) and what states he's already gotten hats from....Don't want to duplicate or bore him. Cat
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