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I'm afraid we are giving the wrong view of Christianity sm

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: Jesus himself taught us not to judge others - let he who is without sin (sm) - MeMT

Christians believe that every person on Earth is a sinner, and for our sins to be forgiven, we believe that Jesus was and is God's son and that we can pray to God and tell him that we believe Jesus died for our sins. There is plenty of evidence to be found to show that Jesus was not just some nice guy or prophet who died on a cross. Believe me, I looked into it when I had doubts. As for adherence to religious dogma, if you study the teachings of Jesus himself, you will see that he was against those who clung too tightly to their religious beliefs, the Pharisees, who thought they were better than others. Jesus did not hang around ultra-religious pious people, but instead hung around those who were hated in their community, and caused quite a bit of gossip because of it. He stopped the stoning of a woman who was caught having unmarried sex with someone else's husband and said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No one threw a stone. That is how it is supposed to be.


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WRONG-they were on The View live today..n/m

the beauty of Christianity
We ALL have skeletons in our closets!!!!!  We all are sinners!!!!!  The beauty of the gift of Christ is that we can be forgiven through his sacrifice if we make him our Savior.  That is what draws the line between a true Christian and an unsaved person, not the sin, as we all have it in our lives. 
Thanks for that! It is also on Christianity Board (sm)
It's so poignant that it's good to have it on both!!
Please take this discussion to the Christianity board.
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and Christianity is an easy life? sm
And no, I would never disown a child of mine, any more than my Father in heaven would never disown me.
But not believing in Christianity doesn't automatically
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AGAIN: Christianity-based threads belong on appropriate board. SM

Keep all Christianity discussions and debates on the Christianity board.  I cannot move them there so they are deleted from other boards if they appear.


Goldbird


You ead my response wrong, terribly wrong
I am trying to ask what does she think it will help, not being nasty- tell me and I will try this. I would stand on my head and gargle peanut butter if I thought it would help - I wanted to know why a letter? They are thumbing their noses at the courts - commanded to appear- I was there and they werent.
my view
What if your daughter was a smoker? Would you allow her to smoke in the house simply because she can smoke at school?

That said ... ask your daughter for the name of the rock group and CD, and then do a Google search for the lyrics.
I need a view from the outside
What to do about a family member who accused me of something that was totally untrue and too hurtful to even discuss, and that person's birthday is in two days. We had a heated discussion and I asked for an apology and got none. I have never, ever let her birthday go before. My mom is elderly and I don't want her hurt by this. What should I do? I am so angry I can't see straight right now and hurt. This an immediate family member, not extended. Do I suck it up once again and send a card and then show up at her dinner? We usually go out for our birthdays. Would be interested in any comment you might have. Either way it does not seem like the thing to do.
She's on The View right now

Just another view.
Where do one persons right to choose trump another persons right to choose. If this were a government run pharmacy, I could see requiring sales of certain items or medications. However, if it is privately owned, my right to choose to use birth control does not trump another persons right to decide what is sold in someone's privately owned store.
Another view

I believe I stopped having themed parties when my daughter was about 11 or 12, but when we went to see family, they took her and me out to dinner or lunch, had birthday cards, cake, or a special meal at home--maybe some money if they could afford to do so.  One reason might be the cost of gifts that older children have come to expect, also the fact they become more choosy and harder to please about styles of clothing, as well as "toys."  I had a friend who gave her children elaborate Easter baskets until they married and left home...that's what she liked to do--and that was fine!  I just could not afford to do what she did for her children, ever, for any occasion. 


It's remembering a special day that counts, not the party or gifts; I'm thankful my daughter learned that earlier than some and is passing that viewpoint on to my granddaughter.


The view - new host
I saw Roseanne on the view a few weeks ago and she seems to have really mellowed. But to watch her everyday - no way. I think she would turn into a Rosie or worse. I would like to see another younger person on - perhaps a bit older than Elisabeth - but someone definitely in their 30's early 40's and someon who doesn't begin with an agenda. Then I might watch again.
The View Update
Well, they were both on today and they're still together. She's moving to Hawaii and they are still engaged, but they basically said they had to fall in love all over again away from the cameras so there's no wedding date.
Did anyone watch The View this--sm
morning and get the name of the book/author Whoopie was talking about?  It was "The Education of???" It is about a young Indian boy and his life. It was an Ophra book club book until she found out the author (who is now dead) was in the KKK and she pulled the book from her list. We live in Cherokee, NC and my kids are into tribal life.
so true - especially considering my view
in house was no windows and cinderblock walls in a hospital.  Love the birds of prey - have a lady here that rehabilitates and I have seen kestrels, vultures, red-tailed, barred owls, great horned owls and more up close and personal.  Just saw a huge hawk overhead- freaked me out - haven't seen him around - couldn't train the binoculars fast enough but he looked bigger than a red tail. 
I can see it from that point of view though (nm)
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How'd you like to have this view from your bathroom?


The presidential suite bathroom at New York's Mandarin Oriental. The 2,640-square-foot suite rents for $14,000 a night.

a different point-of-view
If you don't like your SIL, why would he want to help you?  Is it possible you've conveyed this dislike of him through your actions to him or that your daughter has shared your feelings about him with him?  If so, then I can see why he wouldn't feel obliged to help.  More than likely, he feels like he's being used.  If he's not good enough for your daughter, why is he good enough to help you move?
a kid's point of view ...sm

I just had conversation with a fellow Sunday School teacher about what GIFTS would be good to give this kids this Christmas.   At one point this gal asked her son (12 yrs. old) if he had any ideas what the kids would like to get.   His response "gee, mom, I thought Christmas was about GIVING, not getting."   Out of the mouth of babes, right? !!


Maybe it's adults who get too hung up on what we do or don't do for gifts, activities, etc.   Bet your children are just glad to have a good mom !!


I think your view does not generally match
up with most.. She looks like a real gold-digger to me. What about others out there?
My view of Hayley was if you've got it SM
flaunt it. However, the evening she wore that halter top with her boobs jiggling all over the place, was a bit much. If they jiggle that much, you need to have some type of support, and they claimed she was a devout Christian. Yes, Christians can wear skimpy clothes, but no jiggle please.

Yes, I'm probably just jealous! LOL!
Rosie Leaving The View
Just watching The View.  I know a lot of you wil be happy.  Rosie just announced that she's leaving The View.  I didn't catch exactly when she was leaving or why, but she did mention her children as a factor.
It's about time! Now I can watch the View without ...sm
getting annoyed when she starts her tirade and turning off the TV. My lunch time will now be pleasant again!
Thank you so much for sharing your point of view (sm)
I really appreciate you sharing your story. His dad is in the picture but they are polar opposites. I do have a couple of questions I want to ask you but I better get back to work for now - I'll ask later and hopefully you will check back and won't mind answering. Thanks again!
Whoopie! New co-host of the view is

Whoopie Goldberg!


I know am going to watch again!  


Rosie just turned my stomach.  Blechhhhhh. 


Good job, Babs. 


 


They were on the View today, did exactly same dance sm
with the slap included. She wasn't outraged, she was acting/dancing.
From a man's point of view on same sex lines
He told me just this morning most guys do not want to be on chat lines with other guys, do not want to even see things like that nor talk about it even. He says most guys he knows shy away from anything even resembling gay issues, no magazines, no chat lines, nothing. He works at a trucking firm and he says never hears other discussing subjects like this. He thinks there is more than just the chatting going on. This is from my man's point of view.
Look at it from their point of view. You have lived there 20 sm
years and may live there another 20 - they want to update. You don't have a lease - you are month-to-month and although you have been an ideal tenant - it is their property and they cannot do their renovations with you in there. I would try to rent another unit in the building if possible - but not sure you have any legal right to stay there - but hoping for your sake I am wrong!!
The View. Dress or jeans?
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Here's the pizza guy's point of view
http://tipthepizzaguy.com/
Why is it that when confronted with a different point of view,
passages from the bible? That seems to be some people's answer to everything they can't (or won't) understand. The bible (like the I-Ching, the Torah, the Quran, etc.) is merely a fundamental of one's belief, and passages and ideas can be tweeked and quoted in different contexts to come out meaning pretty much anything you want them to. That it why not of that can be taken literally - it's merely a rough draft, if you will.

The thing is, you have every right to your beliefs, but you have no right to force others to conform to them so as not to offend you. You all need to grow thicker skins and realize that not everyone is going to want to limit themselves to a small, small way of thinking.


They talked about this on The View for 2 days and

even to the point as to how they have sex and that's ALL going to be revealed on her show tonight. I'm definitely not going to watch. Those 2 make me sick, especially now that she/he is pregnant again and due in June! BW thinks she's doing the world a favor by doing this special report.


The reason it kept its female parts was to have kids. What gets me is they never heard of adoption? Why not adopt? Because they wanted to make money, that's why.


I don't know how many times they pointed out that she is now a legal male on all records, SS#, birth (how'd they accomplish that?), marriage license, medical history, etc. If she/he is a legal male, she/he shouldn't have the reproductive organs. Period.


 I feel sorry for the kids. They will be so confused because they are going to tell them as soon as they're old enough  to speak and/or understand.


This world is going to h---- in a handbasket.


That is what I was afraid of
Dh and I have had our 401k for years and this is the first year we each dipped out of it to make ends meet.  I was working from home and got pulled in-house.  I am spending $100 a week on gas plus another 120/week on daycare. I don’t know if I should count daycare our not because I would have my kids in daycare anyway.  I am not talented enough to do MT and watch kids at the same time.  Also, I am have been buying new clothes, buy lunch, vendors in the hallways selling anything from jewelry to clothes to stuffed toys to benefit the Children’s Miracle Network, United way, Hospital Auxiliary, or just goes into a fund for fellow employees who maybe suffering from hard times.  Then there is always the in-departmental fund raises for birthdays, “so and so is going on a cruise lets pitch in a dollar” or some ones kid is doing a fundraiser for their school, sport or whatever and then coworkers selling Avon, Mary Kay or whatever and I just feel the pressure.  Never in my life had I felt the pressure to spend, spend spend as this year that I worked in-house.  What’s worse our name tags function kind of like a debit card, just swipe that sucker and they payroll deduct.   Sorry to vent but I want to be back home! 
Were you afraid he would (sm)
try to take your children in spite? Were you afraid he would be worse during and after the divorce process??
I'm afraid to.
He was just a sobbing suicidal mess before the Concerta (54mg qd) and fluoxetine (40mg qd). I'm afraid to take him off that stuff! I don't know that he could handle being that down again. He's doing so well in school on that too. He has As and Bs, with one C compared to being years behind his peers last year. We go to the doctor again Tuesday morning. I know he's trying his hardest to help my son...plus I'm a sobbing pile of snot every time we visit about my son. The Respirdal (1mg qhs) seems to be helping him as far as the rapid cycling mood swings and the insomnia. We tried to talk a little bit about his maybe hearing things that weren't actually being said....thanks for letting me vent here. None of my friends understand. They all have been blessed with children who seem to function well and aren't high maintenance if that makes any sense.
What are you afraid of?
I pose that question to you because it was one that I had to deal with after wanting a real relationship but for some reason could not fully commit to anyone.  That is not to say that I dated more than one guy at a time, it is just that I would not completely let him in my life.  My fear was having something bad to happen to my girls by this man that I brought into their lives.  So, now that they are grown, in and enjoying their lives/family, I want someone in my life for me....but that fear keep me from committing.  Does that make sense to you?  And it will always be there for me...
LOL! That's what I was afraid of...nm

I actually am more afraid of who is in
the kitchen than I am of the meat, especially our local restaurant because I see him shopping at the same store I go to and they are a family owned business here for a number of years. But I certainly see your point.
What I'm Afraid Of...& Not

I'm scared to death of flying.  Have never been on a plane and never plan to be on one either, unless it is a dire emergency and I have no choice.  Hurricanes scare the bejezzums out of me. After going through Andrew, Katrina, Rita, and Gustav, I think I will go as far north as possible next time...if I can afford to.  I never want to go through that again...even being 90 miles inland, it is still terrifying when they hit here (the wind is what we have to worry about).  I'm afraid of losing my home, my family, and dying alone as well.  I'm also afraid of dust and pollen...I'm highly allergic to both and stay indoors when pollen season hits (which is three times a year here...for dust, I just try to keep the house as clean as possible).


I'm not afraid of spiders (unless they are black widows, which we have here), non-venomous snakes, raccoons, tigers, dogs (used to be), or being on or in the water.


I'm afraid

I'm a little scared to try this.  I'm 45, but I'm really scared it'll tell me my brain is 72!!!


 


 


Are You Afraid Of Getting
Are you afraid of getting old? I'm talking about getting up in age & not being able to do for yourself, having to depend on others for your care.
No, I am not afraid
I honestly do not think that far ahead, and prefer not to worry what may or may not happen.

I'm very afraid of getting old and I'm not too far from it.

I have no daughters, just sons, but not one of them seems to want the responsibility of taking care of us in our later years. We do not want to go to a nursing home. We want to die at home.


I know I could not live alone on our property without a helping hand if something would happen to my DH and have been thinking about what to do since his surgery 2 years ago.Where would I go? What would I do? I surely don't want to leave this property after living here over 40 years, but don't know of any way to do it if something would happen to him.....and so, I think about it all the time. Even now, I have trouble taking out the ashes and definately (sp) could now carry the coal in now, yet living in the "country" for over 40 years, I don't think I could live in a town again to save my life.  


No. Too afraid..sm

Too afraid I would transcribe everything absolutely strict verbatim, including background/cell phone conversations and the like.   


Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
Now Roseanne is supposed to host The View? SM
If they want a kvetchy Jewish woman to host, I would be glad to oblige. But Roseanne? Oy Vey!
Google can now see via street view INTO HOMES
Google Zooms In Too Close for Some
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Jim Wilson/The New York Times

Mary Kalin-Casey and her cat, Monty, at home in Oakland, Calif. A Google map service can zoom in so closely on buildings that it has caused Ms. Kalin-Casey and others to complain to the company and on blogs.









By MIGUEL HELFT

Published: June 1, 2007


OAKLAND, Calif., May 31 — For Mary Kalin-Casey, it was never about her cat.




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Monty the cat was visible in a photo showing a street in Oakland.


Ms. Kalin-Casey, who manages an apartment building here with her husband, John Casey, was a bit shaken when she tried a new feature in Google’s map service called Street View. She typed in her address and the screen showed a street-level view of her building. As she zoomed in, she could see Monty, her cat, sitting on a perch in the living room window of her second-floor apartment.


“The issue that I have ultimately is about where you draw the line between taking public photos and zooming in on people’s lives,” Ms. Kalin-Casey said in an interview Thursday on the front steps of the building. “The next step might be seeing books on my shelf. If the government was doing this, people would be outraged.”


Her husband quickly added, “It’s like peeping.”


Ms. Kalin-Casey first shared her concerns about the service in an e-mail message to the blog Boing Boing on Wednesday. Since then, the Web has been buzzing about the privacy implications of Street View — with varying degrees of seriousness. Several sites have been asking users to submit interesting images captured by the Google service, which offers panoramic views of miles of streets around San Francisco, New York, Las Vegas, Miami and Denver.


On a Wired magazine blog, for instance, readers can vote on the “Best Urban Images” that others find in Street View. On Thursday afternoon, a picture of two young women sunbathing in their bikinis on the Stanford campus in Palo Alto, Calif., ranked near the top. Another showed a man scaling the front gate of an apartment building in San Francisco. The caption read, “Is he breaking in or has he just locked himself out?”


Google said in a statement that it takes privacy seriously and considered the privacy implications of its service before it was introduced on Tuesday. “Street View only features imagery taken on public property,” the company said. “This imagery is no different from what any person can readily capture or see walking down the street.”


Google said that it had consulted with public service organizations and considered their feedback in developing the service, which allows users to request that a photo be removed for privacy reasons. A Google spokeswoman said the company had received few such requests.


For instance, Google worked with the Safety Net Project at the National Network to End Domestic Violence, which represents shelters for victims of domestic violence nationwide, to remove pictures of those shelters. “They reached out in advance to us so we could reach out to our network,” said Cindy Southworth, founder and director of the organization.


Not everyone believes the service raises serious privacy concerns.


“You don’t have a right to ‘privacy’ over what can be seen while driving the speed limit past your house,” wrote a Boing Boing reader, identified as Rich Gibson, in response to Ms. Kalin-Casey’s complaint. Others dismissed her as a crazy cat lady.


Edward A. Jurkevics, a principal at Chesapeake Analytics, a consulting firm specializing in mapping and imagery, said that courts have consistently ruled that people in public spaces can be photographed. “In terms of privacy, I doubt if there is much of a problem,” Mr. Jurkevics said.


Still, the issues raised by the service, thorny or merely funny, were perfect blog fodder. The hunt was on for quirky or potentially embarrassing images that could be found by wandering the virtual streets of the service.


There was the picture of a clearly identifiable man standing in front of an establishment offering lap dances and other entertainment in San Francisco. The site LaudonTech.com showed an image of a man entering a pornographic bookstore in Oakland, but his face was not visible.


Others pointed to pictures of cars whose license plates were clearly readable. One pointed to images captured inside the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, a controversial location for photography in this high-security era. On Lombard Street in San Francisco, various tourists who had come to photograph the famously curvy street were photographed themselves.


Google said that the images had been captured by vehicles equipped with special cameras. The company took some of the photographs itself and purchased others from Immersive Media, a data provider.


“I think that this product illustrates a tension between our First Amendment right to document public spaces around us, and the privacy interests people have as they go about their day,” said Kevin Bankston, a staff lawyer at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group. Mr. Bankston said Google could have avoided privacy concerns by blurring people’s faces.


Back at her apartment, Ms. Kalin-Casey acknowledged that plenty of information about her — that she manages an apartment complex, that she was an Editor at the film site Reel.com — is already easily accessible through Google and other search engines.


“People’s jobs are pretty public,” she said. “But that doesn’t mean they want a shot of their sofa on Google.” She has asked Google to remove the image of her building, which was still online as of Thursday evening.


When a reporter first arrived to interview her, Monty the cat was visible in the window.


 


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/technology/01private.html?em&ex=1180843200&en=83156047690c5c2c&ei=5087%0A


At my last in-house job I had a rear-view mirror
I kid you not. My work station was situated so my back was to the door and I'm like you - when I am concentrating on something I get startled very easily. But usually I would catch a flicker of movement in the mirror and look over so people couldn't sneak up on me. In fact, people who didn't know the mirror was there were really surprised when I said hello to them without even turning around!
So disappointed in Whoopi today on The View!
I live in the deep south and talking about Michael Vick today Whoopi is so misinformed. I have sent the show an email and hopefully it gets to her attention but having said that, she was saying how dogfighting was a cultural thing here in the "deep south." I was born and raised in the south and know of no one who condones this type of inhumane behavior. with her having said that with such authority as really knowing the facts, I think puts southerns in a terrible light. I myself am a huge animal lover with lots of pets and her statements really offended me and I am sure other southerns. Maybe she will get enough feedback to acknowledge she might ought to research a little further before making  overall statements about how southerns are.