This goes toward the conversation on welfare below
Posted By: They said what on 2009-02-17
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Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?
I was reading an article on MSNBC today. This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about. Read the whole article. Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/
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The conversation goes something like this (sm)
"But I know I can't be a real wife to you" he says, "well that's for sure, but I do things for you that I don't want to do, so you could do things for me that you don't want to do." It makes me feel like I have to sell my body to him.
I'd have a conversation with hubby.
Stay calm, but tell him you consider this cheating. See his reaction. He will downplay it, I'm sure. Repeat that you consider it cheating, and since you do, will he stop? Ask him what he's looking for.
If you don't like his answer, then you have learned something very important about his character. Is this somebody you want to devote your life to and have children with?
Sorry for butting in on your conversation, but
yes clipping the nails does help.
Sorry to butt in on your conversation...
But, I have very severe muscle pain and twitching and have been very interested in trying biofeedback to try to relax the muscles when they cramp. Can you tell me how/where you learned this?
Thanks!
You would have no idea what conversation was
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it will be a difficult conversation obviously
At 12 and 14 they are plenty old enough to be told the absolute truth. Let them have some time to process it, and then take them for a visit.
Topic of conversation here lately
I was talking about the wages being offered now for MTers and no raises, pay going down and the like just the other night. I said pretty soon looks like the MTSOs will be charging just to have the people working. I am so very glad that most of my working in years past because like the previous person said, I also did around 60,000 years ago and now more in the 20,000. My husband said this can only happen if MTers allowed it to happen. I am not caught up in this hot mess like I would have been years ago but I understand what it is like to try to raise a family and yet the money might not be there. I don’t know what it will take but the workers here 1 day will have to do something about how this profession is heading
Maybe you could just bring up casually in conversation
how much you enjoy the squirrels, and how much it pains you to see when one has been run over. Don't mention the incident at all, just talk in general about squirrels. Even if she views squirrels as pests, hopefully your talking to her will make her more aware of them when she is driving.
I love squirrels, too, and fortunately I have never hit one, but I tell you, more than once I have nearly had a wreck trying NOT to hit one. They are tricky little devils!
I just had this conversation with my hubby last night!
And he will only be turning 40 next month! He was complaining no one wants to be around him anymore, so, against better judgment I jumped in. He has become one of the most judgmental people I know anymore, no one can do anything right, and we are ALWAYS wrong. I don't care if you tell him the sky is blue, he'll tell you how stupid you are! And men say woman are hormonal....HA.
Welfare
How do I feel about welfare?
1. I believe in what the Bible says about if a man asks for you coat, give him you cloak also. My church teaches that we give if asked, and we have done what we are suppose to. If they were underserving, then that is on them.
2. Don't judge. When my husband and I divorced, I was raising 3 children, working, and going to college to learn to be a MT. I could barely pay the rent. The ONLY thing I did not have to worry about was food, because I received food stamps. I HATED it. I saw people roll their eyes when I got out my food stamps. I cried all the way home. On my birthday, my best friend told me my birthday gift was having my nails done (something I had never done). I went with her when she had her nails done and thought it was such a luxary. Well, she took me to get my nails done for my birthday, and someone from my church saw me there. That person went to my pastor and said they would never help anyone in the church again, because if I could afford to get my nails done, the I did not need help. Not only was I embarrassed about the situation, but I was hurt that someone had judged me.
3. Be grateful you don't have to use food stamps. When I finished school, I was elated after I got a good job and did not have to use food stamps. When I saw someone having to count out their food stamps in front of me, I was sad for them but glad that they got some help. I also would busy myself so as to not embarrass them.
Yes, some people abuse the system, but I would rather 10 people abuse the system than 1 person and/or family go hungry.
This is just my opinion. Please do not bash me. You can't say anything I have not heard before, believe me.
How do you know she will be on welfare? (nm)
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sorry to interupt the conversation here, but see suggestion inside. sm
Your daughter is still young and I think as time goes by and she gets older, she may want something to do with her dad and those memories. I think if it were me, i would consider that burial plot the family has offered. Do you necessarily have to put a casket there for remains? At least your daughter could have a place to go to like a memorial for her dad one day if you did get the burial plot and put a tombstone there for her even if the remains did not go there. Can you put the remains away in storage in case someday she may want them if not the burial plot? My sister is buried within 20 miles of my home and i go there several times a year when i just need to get away for a little bit or feel down. it is the only place i really feel close to her at. i think your daughter as she gets married, matures in life, and has a family of her own might need this type of place to remember her father by and tell her children memories of their grandfather, etc.
maybe she collects welfare and does not tell you.
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Yes, this conversation didn't address the teacher aspect.
We got off on another related subject. Fortunately some other posters stayed focused on what you actually asked, so at least it wasn't a successful hijacking, LOL. I don't have kids, but what I remember is teachers never saying anything either way. And that is how it should be since each family has their own thing going on.
Has it been reported they are all on welfare, medicaid, etc??
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Thank you. Single moms on welfare are not all bad ones.
Women on here who say they have SOOOOO much saved for retirement and then talk about drawing social security burn my behind. It wasn't intended for the well-off to draw in the first place and probably will be gone by the time most of us get old enough to draw it.
This person is obviously overwhelmed with greed, wouldn't you say? In this day and age, with the greedy falling left and right, this one apparently doesn't understand that greedy behavior is no longer PC.
Matrimonial (or shackup) welfare then..I see!
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If that's not a case for welfare reform, I don't know what is - sm
Wouldn't it make sense for us (as taxpayers) to say: We understand occasionally people have hardships and need food stamps and other help; however, while you are receiving assistance, you must have Norplant (or something that can't be accidentally forgotten) so that you cannot have another child while receiving it? Otherwise we are simply perpetuating the welfare state by enabling unemployed people to have as many kids as they can, and rewarding them to do so.
im the one who started this conversation. things always lead to an argument on this board.
but, i have friends who never started teh santa thing, and then i have friends who still practice the santa tradition. i never questioned myself. i just did as i had been raised. but i understand how some people just dont even start santa. its cool either way. and no one has to agree...everyone is different, i respect differences. but there has got to be a cut off point for puplic school teachers, to step back and leave things for teh parents. yes other kids tell them the truth about santa and, at least i have taught my children that its "bologna..if they dont believe, they dont get presents...bla bla"..so tehy have no prob blowing that off. but when their TEACHER says it, it might as well be the GOSPEL. ya know.
Well, the former welfare recipient has her millions now & feels
regardless if it adversely affects children. She knows full well that her books are read by children. Since she has opted to make such a poor decision, I am opting to make a good decision and no longer purchase her books, watch her movies, or buy any products related to her books as she gets a cut on everything. It's one thing to have a personal opinion about homosexuality, but she didn't have to publicly link it to a character in her books.
Are you sister of poster with tax-welfare issues?
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How do you feel about Food Stamps/Welfare?
In the way home from school last night, I had to run into the Ameristop to get a gallon of Orange Juice.
Well, as I was pulling in, this lady (about 25) was walking in, sort of rough looking girl.
Well, she was ahead of me in line then and she got her food stamps out, and typically this kind of thing makes me upset. Because, you could see physically anyway, there was nothing wrong with her.
But, maybe there was....... or maybe she lost her job, and is trying to manage. Not that I was being nosey or anything, but there she had 2 Gallons of Milk, Sausage and Biscuit Dough. So, maybe she was trying to get breakfast for her family in the morning. So now all of a sudden I feel guilty.
But, if we weren't in these hard economic times where jobs were scarce, I typically wouldnt be as understanding, because I do feel Welfare is Abused.
What about you?
THEN, another thing......... maybe you will know, Sometimes you see Welfare people ahead of you in line at the grocery store or something, and they ALWAYS have "Name-brand" in their cart. Never Store Brand. Well I shouldnt say Never, but it always seems like your name brands.
Does Welfare require them to get Name Brand?
I DID NOT DRAW WELFARE. I got food stamps
only for a very short time. I was also a taxpayer then and had been for a number of years before and still continue to be. Why don't you come down off your high horse and realize that sometimes people need help. I hope that you and Amy never become disabled and have to rely on government services to help you.
A single mother by choice does not make them a welfare
recipient and/or a bad person. Heck, I would be more inclined to put that person as unselfish and determined. You chose the easy way out, the single mother took on her commitment and took the responsibility.
i care about child abuse, welfare fraud, and
dumping of young males to the streets, so they lessen the competition for the multi-wife thing. This is all well-documented. This is not about just polygamy -- which is also against the law, but its the abuse of children and abuse of our welfare system -- all under the banner of religion. If it was just about men taking multiple ADULT wives, the government would not likely have stepped in to even enforce that law.
"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
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Abuse of food stamps/welfare is a MAJOR
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Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
you didnt write that conversation. shame shame
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