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This vegan agrees! Veggies and no animal products are the way to go! nm

Posted By: Trying for improved health. NM on 2007-08-15
In Reply to: As someone who has been 235.5 pounds and now to 115 pounds (sm) - Apple Scruff

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Anyone else vegan
The last few times I have had meat I have gotten very sick. I buy from different sources (all good), looked at expiration date, smelled good, everything's but we just end up sick (doesn't matter what type of meat). So am trying to go vegan (again).

I'm hooked on lentils (can't get enough of them), and we know about salads, beans and soups, but does anyone have ideas of other stuff. I've got tons of rice and was wondering what I could do with that and I've also got some canned italian tomatoes.
As I said already, I am a vegetarian, but not a vegan.
Vegans do not eat ANY foods originating from animals.

I eat eggs, drink milk and eat fish.

That's it.

I am very healthy and slim.


good. there is someone who agrees with me--sm
and where I live, there are areas where it is no longer legal to smoke either, and I was so happy about that!!! However, in the apartment building where I now live, the management has asked the tenants to not smoke in the buildings, but to stay outside and smoke. To me, they would be better left inside their own apartments to smoke, so they would not inflict the smoke on the other tenants, not to mention their cigarette butts. Let them swill in their own smoke, and then have to pay a higher fee for cleaning when they leave. That makes it their problem, and not mine.
my experience agrees
having raised chickens for years; much harder to peel a fresh egg. i've seen a hint somewhere that others said worked -- not sure? poke a pin in to penetrate the fat end of the shell before boiling?
guess you are a vegan too, since killing cows - sm
and pigs is murder, then again eating the vegetable is murder too since you are killing a living thing. We can twist this 1000 different ways.
I and I and I hope the majority agrees with you..nm
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I'm one of the few Grinches here who agrees with you. Enough w/the stress & extra calories in the
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This native NYorker agrees! Nice restaurant meal & clean sheets
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Forgot the veggies - sm
BirdsEye mixed veggies too. Scoop about 1/2 cup out of the package and pop in the microwave while the chicken is grilling.

I buy the big bag of mixed veggies and a bag of boneless chicken tenders. I grill up a bunch of the chicken, then cut it into bite size pieces when it has cooled. I use freezer containers (I think Rubbermade) and mix the veggies and chicken together, then fill the containers, pop it in the freezer for when I want a single serving, like for lunch. When I want to use them, I add about 1 tsp of water, put the lid back on loosely and zap it for about 1.5 minutes. Easy Peasy
Veggies and dip, slaw.
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I have always grown veggies - sm
And this year it looks like doing so will really pay off!  I mean, for a few dollars I can get enough plants to cover my 100 sq feet of raised beds and really make a dent in the cost of produce, which we eat a lot of.  Happy gardening! 
We can our veggies every year...sm

We go out to the countryside to U-Pick veggie fields.  Last year picked lots of tomatoes for 20 cents a pound.  Also picked or bought eggplant, peppers, pears, apples, peaches.  We canned the tomatoes and fruits; froze the peppers, and ate the eggplant (not sure how to preserve those yet).  We also freeze snap peas from the garden and some other stuff.  Whoa, I sound like a little country Cathy, don't I?    Anyway, hopefully this helps support the farms/farmers and keeps their land away from developers.  Off my soap box now. 


root veggies
I have read that root vegetables like carrots, beets, etc., absorb the irrigation water & pesticides & this cannot be washed off, so this would be the place to spend the extra money on organic veggies. For other kinds of veggies, just keep in mind that the pesticides often are sprayed in an oily base, so plain water won't get rid of it. You have to use soap (doesn't take much) & then rinse really well. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. Also I read an article in Sunset last month about how you can grow your own organic veggies in a very small space, only about 10 x 10 feet, & get quite a harvest out of it.
I go along with the veggies and dip. Skip the crax
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I think we expect that kids won't like veggies, and ....
I think that generally, in this country we do a very bad job of cooking vegetables. And, I think that we just generally expect that kids don't like vegetables. I grew up eating a Mediterranean diet. My grandparents and most of my neighbors were Italian immigrants. We lived in a part of NJ where you could grow just about anything. We had lots of fresh vegetables, lots of fish, and my grandmother made all of her pasta by hand with a combination of white flour and semolina. I don't think any vegetable was cooked longer than a minute or two, and there were always piles of vegetables at every meal. It was just part of the diet.

I have a Korean foster son, and he enjoys things like smoked squid legs and seaweed. It's just the normal diet for his culture. Kids in other countries eat all sorts of things that Americans consider ghastly. So, really, I think it's more just our culture. Americans tend to give kids more bland, smooth foods for a longer time, and then later, the fast food, high-sugar, high-fat culture kicks in. It's just so bad for all of us. I remember thinking that roasted peppers were the best thing in the world, and I clearly remember eating them for lunch when I was too young to go to school. I don't think you'd find too many American parents who'd consider roasted peppers toddler food! LOL

That's my theory, anyway.
yes I like the peaches too but forget the veggies
you CAN add them to your kid's food for added vitamins. I might just start buying carrots and adding them to my kid's Chef Boyardee!
Shepherd's Pie with lots of veggies

It's very filling and you can do wonders with only 1 lb of ground beef if you make this. Add enough veggies to displace some of the meat, whatever you have on hand.


It only takes about 4 potatoes to make enough topping, too.


The spinach dip in a hollowed bread? Veggies and dip? Sweet
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Prime rib, some fresh veggies, good bread....
and a fabulous hubby in a cabin in the mountains with no phone or TV!
Pork chops, mashed taters, and roasted veggies
Hubby wants lots of meat!
Have you tried CET products? sm
My Siberian Husky, Wiley, had enamel hypoplasia, so I always had to take good care of his teeth. It was diagnosed when he was 5 yrs of age. He had a particularly severe case, and I could probably write a book about all our dental adventures over the years (x-rays and cleanings every 6 months, extractions, root canals, malformed roots, reabsorption of the root canals many years later so they had to be removed...)

Anyway, the vet said I needed to brush his teeth *every* day, w/o fail. My heart sank when I heard this, because Wiley was, shall we say... 'spirited' and I thought there was NO WAY he was going to let me brush his teeth.

Fortunately, I found that he really loved the poultry flavored toothpaste for dogs (sounds disgusting, doesn't it?) made by C.E.T. The best price I found was here: http://www.fuzzytummy.com/ (Click on 'shop' under where it shows *C.E.T. Dental Products for Cats and Dogs* then click on 'Best to Brush' and scroll down to C.E.T. Oral Hygiene Kit for Dogs.)

I would buy 3 kits at a time of the toothbrush and toothpaste, to save on shipping. I never had a problem brushing his teeth when I used the poultry flavored. I tried using malt flavored once, and he didn't like it as much, and he fought me a little bit. I also tried mint flavored, but he didn't like that one AT ALL, and I didn't get much brusing done, so I didn't use mint again.

Brushing is the best, but if your dog just will not cooperate with brushing, C.E.T. also makes a rinse that you squirt around the gumline - very easy to do but Wiley didn't like it. It seemed to taste bad to him.

C.E.T. also makes dental chews with enzymes in them that help clean the teeth. (They make products for cats too, though I would definitely not want to try to brush a cat's teeth! LOL)

There are other products I've seen (try Foster's and Smith - online) for keeping their teeth clean that you can just add to your dog's water bowl, but I don't know how well they work. (Still, I suppose that would be better than nothing?)

Good luck!

As Seen on TV Products - anybody?

Thought we could pool our opinions on the ones we have tried for others to see what works before we make that purchase.


I tried the green bags that slow the ripening process and keep foods fresher longer.  THEY WORK.  Kept bananas twice the amount of time and they tasted fresh too.


Anybody?


Have you tried their products?
That would be great if it really tastes like bacon. It would help poor DH who isn't allowed to eat real bacon anymore and misses it terribly.
Aside from whatever products you use
If you use a ceramic hair straightener, it works wonders!
roasted veggies and sauteed tofu with wild rice, and salad. nm
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My ChiChi mix eats fruits & veggies all day! Peppers, peaches, hummus,
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Leapfrog products.
I just have to say how wonderful the people at Leapfrog are.  My son has a Leapster and loves it, but it is less than a year old and it stopped turning on.  Leapfrog sent us a new one, just like that.  After they realized I had tried all their troubleshooting techniques, they sent a new one free of charge.  They obviously stand by their products!!
Buy their products faithfully... sm
email me if you want further info - not trying to recruit you... just will give you an idea of some of the products I really enjoy. I'm in it because I love the products - they're awesome.
awesome products
Just wanted to say thanks for trying to recruit me, but I am already in Melaleuca and I just wanted to tell you that I think these are also wonderful products and I buy them faithfully also, and I have to say that my favorite product is the laundry detergent. It gets my husbands greasy work clothes clean with just one squirt of detergent.
Best fake tan products?
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Nice to know products out there sm
Some meticulous women have a problem because of medication, etc. It's nice to know what is out there without asking someone. I do agree that it can be sickening. I get embarrassed when children are around, I wish they would limit these products to nighttime viewing. I hate having to explain my way around what wonderful things warm lubricants and Cialis can do for "the right moment." I agree in a way but a few things I have seen on TV have enlightened me as to what's out there now, more than in the old days. I bathe daily in nice hot water but I am grateful to know I could possibly have a problem. Dryness can also cause this problem as well as medications such as some cancer drugs, yeast infections, etc., and I have seen the best of the best, cream of the crop socialites who could use one of these products as they are not aware they have an obvious odor about them. Knowledge is power but spare our kids, please!
Ingredient in over 1,800 products
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/peanutbutterrecall/index.cfm


It is in Kashi, Kroger, Keebler, Brachs candies, nearly any food you can think of. Check the list out. These two peanut plants have not passed inspections in over four years. They were roach and mold infested and the CEO took the 5th today when questioned by congress.
I cut out about 90% of dairy products. sm
The smell isn't the problem really, I wish it was if you know what I mean! The air needs to go! The sitting makes me feel like I am going to explode like everything is "tight". I am short and have abotu 35 extra pounds and tend to gain it around the middle and I know that doesn't help.
I have been vegetarian on/off for 35 years, was vegan for about 5 years sm
not that hard. Right now, I am having so many issues with food allergies and celiac disease, having to give up nightshade veggies...nothing left to eat. I am eating some meat now, but not when the gastroparesis sets in!

Being vegan is not hard...unless you are a celiac. This is how I figured out the celiac part because so many of the meat analogs and vegan packaged foods use gluten for the protein and I got really sick from it. I gave up all the premade things and the whole grains with gluten and I was fine.

There is vegan and then there is VE-GAN. By definition, vegans don't wear, use or consume anything that is derived of animals...no leather shoes, most shampoos and toothpastes are off the list, as are deodorants. No wool or silk. Anything with soap usually has animal byproducts. It is very involved and rather difficult to do.

Giving up meat, eggs and dairy is no big deal, except for cheese. You hear that ad about "comfort proteins" in a baby formula and there is such a thing. Mother's milk, be it human, cow, goat, whatever...contains a chemical that triggers the release of endorphins in the brain so that feeding feels good in more ways than one. The purpose of this is ensure that the nursed young want to nurse and thrive. Human milk has a lot of these, so does cow's milk and cow juice triggers the same reaction in the adult human brain. Cheese is concentrated milk and therefore these chemicals are also concentrated. As a result, cheese is an addictive substance. This is the hardest thing to give up when going vegan. Vegan cheese substitutes are nasty and they don't melt. If a dairy-free cheese melts, it contains casein, an animal protein and not vegan.
Asparagus and/or peas with mint are nice side veggies. Have everyone bring a dessert
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Try some herb teas and seltzer with lemon or lime to drink. Veggies & hummus
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Get weaning food at PetStore, use a syringe, feed the formula, cooked veggies SM
I looked on Google and got totally carried away reading about the lovebirds. One thing, if your birds are hand-fed they will be much better pets, will allow you to handle them when they are grown. If you have no dogs or cats, you might even let them have a birdie playground on top of the cage, but that's for somebody who has really worked with the little guys since Day One of life. Have Fun!
Wise.MT
Arbonne Int'l products are wonderful...
I used MK for almost 20 years and never thought I would use anything else, but I recently tried Arbonne Int'l products and my face feels wonderful.  Do a search for their website.
Does anyone know about Swanson Health Products?
I received a catalog of their products today (herbs, vitamins, minerals, etc.) and their prices seem really good.  I was wondering how good their product is.  Do they put a lot of "extra" ingredients in their herbs or do they offer the "real" thing?  I know that there are some companies out there that their herb/vitamin supplements are not worth taking because there is so little of the real thing in their capsules.  How do you rate Swanson?
I love her products, but I don't use Reclaim (sm)
I haven't ordered any lately -thanks for the reminder! Her moisturizer is so good that when I stopped using it for a while, people started asking me what was wrong - did I feel bad, etc? LOL. Oh and the enzyme mask is amazing!! There is also a skin tightening serum that works really well. It's all good stuff. You can become a member and get three products a month at a really good price.
Health and beauty products
I always like to hear about good reviews of products because sometimes it can be overwhelming with all the choices. I just thought we could all share about one or two of our favorites - hair or makeup. I personally love L'Oreal volumizer mascara and most Lancome makeup even though it's pricey. I'm looking for a really good shampoo and conditioner though - anyone?
hair care products
I would have to agree with the Aveda statement.  Their products are pricey but you use minimal amounts of the product to get the job done.  Their shampoos are amazing and they have leave-in stuff for styling that is incredible.  I have 2-process color on my hair and I find their products to be the best, hands down.  I also use their tinted moisturizer and tourmaline products .. I have seen a huge difference in my skin and hair .. it is like anything else I suppose - you get what you pay for.
American Girl Products
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re steroids in dairy products,
are these the growth hormones you are talking about? I guess the only way to avoid them is via farm your own or organic, yes?
Also avoid products with lanolin

which can aggravate eczema.  It's another common ingredient in lotions. 


Curel original has neither lanolin nor vitamin E. 


We keep no peanut products in our home
Hubby only eats the natural peanut butter and it tastes yucky. Other than that, nothing else in the house contains peanut butter and he had his way before the scare.
I'm currently avoiding ALL products with peanuts in them,
as the recall just seems to keep getting more and more expansive. At the beginning of it I bought some chocolate-covered cookies with peanut-flavored middles that were going to go on a picnic with me, to share with others. Instead, I bought different cookies to share with my friends. (I have few enough friends, without poisoning them to death!) Still, I couldn't throw away the package, and since they were generic, without a particular brand, I finally took a chance and ate one bite of one myself. They were fine, and needless to say, I ended up polishing off the entire package.
Brown rice w/roasted veggies and feta, pork chops for the meat eaters. nm
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Question about sugar free products

I love sugar free stuff (soda, kool-aid, etc), but i've heard that phenylkeroturic (not sure if i spelled it right) wasn't good for you.  have any of you heard this or know of a place to find out more info?  i'm going to try google.  my kids like the sugar free kool-aid and i don't want to give it to them if it's not good. 


thanks


microfiber products.....just discussed, see archives...

Typical multilevel - good products but...

high in price.  Melalueca is just like every other multilevel company.  The people at the top make a lot of money.  The ones at the bottom don't.  I never liked trying to sell things, especially multilevel programs, to my friends.  :)