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What are you talking about? Effort? Just because he doesn't

Posted By: sad mom on 2007-06-18
In Reply to: How are you going to explain to son in a few years why - you didn't make an effort for him? nm

live here with me by no means says I didn't make the effort. When you divorce, the kids either go with the dad, the mom, or in our case, it was both. We are extremely close and he wants to live with us.

I really regret this post now. I certainly did not need people like you responding to a very delicate situation and one that is very close to my heart. You sound really evil.


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So I probably need to make even more effort to see my own (sm)
I think my MIL is already getting plenty of attention. Now that I think about it, it's mine who is getting shafted.
Re the amount of effort
OMG - I had two teenagers who were 19 months apart.  Yes, it was hard and sometimes I just had to turn my head and pretend that was not my child.  The effort and sacrifices are great, especially at prom time and when they start driving.  I am glad I had mine young.  I think it helped me get through it.  I do believe that kids/teenagers are going to get in trouble for something.  That's their job and it is a way of life.  I just tried to put myself in their place when I was that age (I did much worse things actually).  That is also another reason why they could not get by with much.  I had done it all and knew what to expect.  Even so, no matter what my kids ever did and whether I trusted them or not, I always let them know and told them I loved them more than anything all the time (even if they had hurt me).  I gave them my all and taught them to appreciate it.  I put them through college and they put themselves through grad school.  I was not sure the youngest would even graduate high school.  They always knew I loved them with all my heart and I believe most of the time that pays off.  One day all that effort and sacrifice will be worth it.
a question of amount of effort
If I had to do it over again, yes.

But I am having a hard time seeing where the amount of sacrifices I made is paying off in these "teenage years."

I think the payoff for being a good enough parent just might be raising "good enough" kids who become "good enough" parents, so you don't end up raising your grandkids....(and end up with a second chance to get it right).


Im not talking about a check. Im talking about a positive administration working FOR Americans and
Not receiving a check each month to help us out is not what got us in this mess...
Most rewarding parts require most effort.
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What's the difference between talking on cell and talking to person sitting across from you?
You should be ignoring people at other tables and MYOB.
i can't get this list to print out for nothin...last ditch effort.


























































































































































































































































































































































































































































  Name and (party)1 Term State of
birth
Born Died Religion2 Age at
inaug.
Age at
death
1. Washington (F)3 1789–1797   Va. 2/22/1732 12/14/1799 Episcopalian 57 67
2. J. Adams (F) 1797–1801 Mass. 10/30/1735 7/4/1826 Unitarian 61 90
3. Jefferson (DR) 1801–1809 Va. 4/13/1743 7/4/1826 Deist 57 83
4. Madison (DR) 1809–1817 Va. 3/16/1751 6/28/1836 Episcopalian 57 85
5. Monroe (DR) 1817–1825 Va. 4/28/1758 7/4/1831 Episcopalian 58 73
6. J. Q. Adams (DR) 1825–1829 Mass. 7/11/1767 2/23/1848 Unitarian 57 80
7. Jackson (D) 1829–1837 S.C. 3/15/1767 6/8/1845 Presbyterian 61 78
8. Van Buren (D) 1837–1841 N.Y. 12/5/1782 7/24/1862 Reformed Dutch 54 79
9. W. H. Harrison (W)4 1841 Va. 2/9/1773 4/4/1841 Episcopalian 68 68
10. Tyler (W) 1841–1845 Va. 3/29/1790 1/18/1862 Episcopalian 51 71
11. Polk (D) 1845–1849 N.C. 11/2/1795 6/15/1849 Methodist 49 53
12. Taylor (W)4 1849–1850 Va. 11/24/1784 7/9/1850 Episcopalian 64 65
13. Fillmore (W) 1850–1853 N.Y. 1/7/1800 3/8/1874 Unitarian 50 74
14. Pierce (D) 1853–1857 N.H. 11/23/1804 10/8/1869 Episcopalian 48 64
15. Buchanan (D) 1857–1861 Pa. 4/23/1791 6/1/1868 Presbyterian 65 77
16. Lincoln (R)5 1861–1865 Ky. 2/12/1809 4/15/1865 Liberal 52 56
17. A. Johnson (U)6 1865–1869 N.C. 12/29/1808 7/31/1875 (7) 56 66
18. Grant (R) 1869–1877 Ohio 4/27/1822 7/23/1885 Methodist 46 63
19. Hayes (R) 1877–1881 Ohio 10/4/1822 1/17/1893 Methodist 54 70
20. Garfield (R)5 1881 Ohio 11/19/1831 9/19/1881 Disciples of Christ 49 49
21. Arthur (R) 1881–1885 Vt. 10/5/1829 11/18/1886 Episcopalian 50 56
22. Cleveland (D) 1885–1889 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 47 71
23. B. Harrison (R) 1889–1893 Ohio 8/20/1833 3/13/1901 Presbyterian 55 67
24. Cleveland (D)8 1893–1897 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 55 71
25. McKinley (R)5 1897–1901 Ohio 1/29/1843 9/14/1901 Methodist 54 58
26. T. Roosevelt (R) 1901–1909 N.Y. 10/27/1858 1/6/1919 Reformed Dutch 42 60
27. Taft (R) 1909–1913 Ohio 9/15/1857 3/8/1930 Unitarian 51 72
28. Wilson (D) 1913–1921 Va. 12/28/1856 2/3/1924 Presbyterian 56 67
29. Harding (R)4 1921–1923 Ohio 11/2/1865 8/2/1923 Baptist 55 57
30. Coolidge (R) 1923–1929 Vt. 7/4/1872 1/5/1933 Congregationalist 51 60
31. Hoover (R) 1929–1933 Iowa 8/10/1874 10/20/1964 Quaker 54 90
32. F. D. Roosevelt (D)4 1933–1945 N.Y. 1/30/1882 4/12/1945 Episcopalian 51 63
33. Truman (D) 1945–1953 Mo. 5/8/1884 12/26/1972 Baptist 60 88
34. Eisenhower (R) 1953–1961 Tex. 10/14/1890 3/28/1969 Presbyterian 62 78
35. Kennedy (D)5 1961–1963 Mass. 5/29/1917 11/22/1963 Roman Catholic 43 46
36. L. B. Johnson (D) 1963–1969 Tex. 8/27/1908 1/22/1973 Disciples of Christ 55 64
37. Nixon (R)9 1969–1974 Calif. 1/9/1913 4/22/1994 Quaker 56 81
38. Ford (R) 1974–1977 Neb. 7/14/1913 12/26/2006 Episcopalian 61 —
39. Carter (D) 1977–1981 Ga. 10/1/1924 — Southern Baptist 52 —
40. Reagan (R) 1981–1989 Ill. 2/6/1911 6/5/2004 Disciples of Christ 69 93
41. G.H.W. Bush (R) 1989–1993 Mass. 6/12/1924 — Episcopalian 64 —
42. Clinton (D) 1993–2001 Ark. 8/19/1946 — Baptist 46 —
43. G. W. Bush (R) 2001– Conn. 7/6/46 — Methodist 54 —

How old is your child/children and when did you decide he wasn't worth the effort? nm
!
we can make a quiet knowledge group effort to eliminate him
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I made concious effort to stop yelling & pointed that
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Hey, have at it. If you want a lazy, apathetic, not affectionate, doesn't listen, doesn't make
can reach him!!! Let me know if you're interested.
She wasn't talking to you, BTW. She was talking about the 2 posters below! nm
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It doesn't make me mad but it doesn't sound intelligent either (sm)
I am sure if all of those people who were aborted were living, some would be good and some would be bad, in the same proportion as there is good to bad now. Your statement makes no sense. So somehow the babies who were aborted were meant to be aborted because they were bad seeds? Whatever. Sorry, that's just silly.
It doesn't always work that way though - some give but it doesn't come back like that nm
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Am not talking politics here at all, talking
about how she views the southern culture which apparently she knows very little. I do not care about her politics- what I care about is by making a statement like that only shows a persons ignorance. My maid is working today, has lived in the gettos all her life in a big city and when I asked her about it she said something she has not seen in maybe 30 years. In her neighborhood there is all sort of crime that goes on (well, that is about everywhere) but if anyone would see it she would be 1. Like I say, could care less about Whoopie's political views other than the fact she got that wrong. Neil Boortz also was saying the same,;he said she was probably still holding the south in such a light because of her inability to go into a upper class restaurant here in town dressing in blue jeans. Being as she was born in NYC, we southerns still say da.n yankees! So true here.
Look who's talking!
So what are you doing here? Also, it should be "as well as the ones WHO answered this", by the way.
look whose talking too!

Maybe that is me you are talking about?
Hey, I thought I was consoling when I said that maybe she had religion in her heart but hey, read into it whatever you want. You cannot save everyone and if she had wanted to hear you, you would not have been hushed. I lost my grandmother 30 years ago and I was extremely close to her and visited her often. I remember her fondly. I for 1 do not believe that only Christians are the chosen ones so if your grandmother was another religion that you do not approve of, she might have picked the right one, who knows? My heart was in the right place when I answered you but apparently you thought otherwise.
If a guy is still talking to his

and they have no kids together, been divorced almost a year, that's bad, right?


She cheated, why would he want to talk to her still?


that's OK. keep talking.
She really has her heart set on Pratt so spending 4 days in Brooklyn to learn her way around a little. She is a thrift store junkie so we will be exploring Park Slope and Williamsburg anyway. Juniors sounds like a definite. Thank you so much. So much to choose from, we never know where to begin, but we are both adventurous eaters and willing to try anything. We will both have a big huge fattening piece of cheesecake for you! Brooklyn gardens has been on my list for years so this is the year for that also.


But it is CNN along with others, we are not talking
about talk, regular every day news, local, nightly. As far as the newspapers, I learned several years ago the news terribly slanted and now the news is sensationalized. These stories I listed are on CNN news page as we speak.
What are you talking about???????????????
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that's what I was talking about...

and we have an owl on this property (that nobody can see) for a couple of years and he/she does hoot and sometimes his/her hoot can go on for hours and all different times of the day/evening.  Been living here for 17 years on this property and while I have always *heard* this owl occasionally....his/her hooting has increased tenfold over time.


Last night the birds were chirping big time around 11 pm or midnight!  I just don't get it......well, I DO get it....and it's scary....*thoughts of the future and the environment*


 


not really...we have tried talking to them about it before but they don't get it...
We are always doing something and I just find it so rude that we don't even get a phone call before stopping over...we love having them but just want a little respect in that area...My parents always call before coming over...
can you use (is this what you are talking about)
the inexpensive throws you see everywhere - rolled up - like big lots and target - I am not spending a lot this year and have two adult daughters who are always cold - this sounds so cool.
Just talking about this
Had my mother lived, she would be incensed. We have bent over backwards trying to be correct while our freedoms, celebrations, what have you are disappearing. There are all kind of people in the work force, you cannot please each and every one. It is like a person not liking a particular television show, darn turn it off, don’t look, don’t join in with the rest but to say they don’t believe in it?? I don’t believe in a lot of others beliefs but I leave them alone, I do not try to push my beliefs, values on them. We are slowly losing our country, little by little.
Just talking about this...
I would like to say that I am of the Jewish faith, and I have always went along with the Christmas Parties, etc. It doesn't offend me as I know that the majority celebrates Christmas. I am married to a Christian, so we celebrate both. My children are versed in both religions and I think that it will make them more rounded individuals when they get older. So don't go slamming everyone for their beliefs. Everyone's different.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanzaa!
I really don’t know what you are talking about
I said sorry for the child taking irradiation- I said we all have problems - we do. I said thought 14 too old for paddling - I do. The original poster put in about the padded panties and how her bottom looked or should look without the bruising. Where do I come off being horrible? Do not understand your post. She has gone into much detail about the wheres and whys and how the paddling to take place. I still find that really, really strange and question the validity of that.
Exactly what I'm talking about..sm
People so bitter around here for something that is happening to another person that will in no way affect them or their tax dollars, and here they want to whine about it. It is not your life, it is not your daughter's life, so why not just leave it be if you have nothing nice to say? Bah. Old biddies I guess ;)
If you really want to get them talking
If you don't care what she says about you, you could always ask her if she has had her rabies shot today. Then say "Yeah, I wanted to give you something else you can talk to other people about me behind my back". But then again, if you have to be around her the best advice is what everyone else said...stay away from her. She is definitely mentally imbalanced. I used to belong t a quilting group and this one lady would talk about church, church, church, sunday school, we did this and we did that, we do good things for people, and then in the same breath talk really nasty about people. One time she said such an insensitive remark to me about my husband (whom she had never met) I left in the middle of my lesson in tears and never went back to that group and joined another. I never gave this lady a chance to say another mean word to me. People like this are just truly ignorant. I call them energy vampires. They suck all the energy right out of you and believe me, they are out there. Best of luck to you.
Are you actually talking about someone else? sm
Maybe a friend you fell out with and you know she reads this board? If you really are talking about yourself, go talk to a doctor and get some antidepressants :-)
wth are you talking about?
not sure how you figure insurnace companies charge you for other people's kids...
i know what you are talking about sm
i'm fascinated with spirit stuff. i know what orbs are. maybe i should take some pictures around our house. we haven't had any family pass. he explains to me what the ghost looks like. once he said he saw the grim reaper in the bath tub. i don't in anyway put these ideas in his head. i don't even bring them up. but when he brings them up, i don't brush it off, i ask him what he saw, if he was scared, if they talk to him. i don't want him to feel like he can't come to me and tell me these things. my hubby on the other hand, doesn't believe in that stuff, and i haven't even told him that our 6 y/o says he sees stuff like that. he'd think i was feeding it in his head, but i don't. i had a dream once when i was pregnant with my first son. it was the most amazing dream i had ever had. i dream in color, and they seem so real. anyway, i was pregnant with my first kid, didn't know what i was having at the time of this dream. in my dream an angel came to me (she looked like my mom --- my mom is still alive) and she was holding a baby. it was a baby boy. after i had my first boy, he looked exactly like the baby in my dream that the angel was holding. it was just amazing!!!!
Are you talking about
David Duchovny from the x-files?  If so, I have been moderately obsessed with him since the 90's.  :) 
Yes. I think I had what you are talking about,
but thankfully mine did not last that long.  I still from time to time will get it, but again very briefly.  Hope it gets better for you very soon. 
are you talking about
the graduation party being the night of graduation? HOW COMPLETELY RUDE for the sis-in-law to say that! The wedding date isn't set yet, its not YOUR fault if they decide that month that weekend, etc! How selfish of her to send that nasty e-mail! I'm so sorry! Graduation is a big deal, they can get married any day, any time of year, graduation is not any time of the year. If they set it on that weekend AFTER you already sent the save-the-date email, that would make me feel they are being selfish too. I'm sorry you're having such a bah-humbug time of year!!
DH and I were just talking about this
last night. We saw the Shamwow guy's new infomercial for the chopper...listen closely to the chopped nuts part if you see it. We think he is the next generation of Mays. At least the Shamwow guy is hysterical.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????????????
say the baby "dropped" as in dropped into your pelvis??? I'm seriously hoping that was a joke!!!
WHAT are you talking about?
No one here is saying anything about where it came from. Most have the sense to know it was a gift, already heard. We are talking pets, not politics.
you might be talking about the BMI....nm
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I think what she was talking about
is about single parents - not having the mother or father present but still can raise your kids right...like my daddy did with me :)
We were just talking about that!
That's so funny - I was talking to my best friend on the phone and we said the same thing. She said she thought Debbie Rowe had made some effort to get back in the kids lives and, if so (and assuming she isn't a complete nut job), she should get the two back that are definitely hers.

Are you talking about the 1 on the
gurney with him being intubated?
Talking about dieting, has anyone

used Hoodia and if so, what kind of success have you had with it?


That's what we're talking about
It turns out he stood me up because he had been told I was too young for him, and didn't know how to say it. Yeah, that sounds lame, I know, but I believe him. We were only kids.

Anyway, we've talked about, if it lasts, sticking it out till we're old and gray, and eventually meeting again when we're both free. This may or may not happen. NOne of us are getting any younger. And, no, I'm not going to just sit around waiting for my husband to die. I've had a full life for 41 years - I can wait another thirty if necessary.
Are they talking laparoscopic?
I think the worse it is, the harder it is to do laparoscopically. It is much less painful to recover from the laparoscopic procedure. The surgery is routine, but there can still be complications, so just make sure you have an experienced surgeon and see what he or she says. And let people know so they can pray for you.
I'm not talking about her talent, but rather
her not being a good role model. I just don't see how that description fits.
It seems to me the person should be talking
to the person they are having dinner with and not someone on a phone. And as posted below, they usually have to talk rather loud and I do find that annoying.
My friend and I were just talking about that
I was over watching AI with her and she mentioned the same thing without even actually knowing about it. It was just a guess on her part.
He probably did it to keep people talking about him...sm
I do agree with Simon's comments about him, though. I thought Gina did the best she had ever sung last night and of course Lakeisha & Melinda were awesome. The guys overall still stink - out of the thousands that auditioned they should have picked better ones.
Talking to the ex-wife
Your boyfriend/husband talks to his ex-wife because he is mature. She means nothing to him. He would be with her, not you, if that was his choice. Don't you have ex-boyfriends? Do you speak when you meet them in the street? Please don't go down this road or you will experience a LOT of pain. You cannot ever "make" someone be faithful to you. Either they are or they are not. Dogs need to be tossed aside because life is too short. Work on your self-esteem. Choking someone to death with your insecurity and jealousy is the quickest way to make your boyfriend/husband say, "Bye-bye." My grown children stay with my husband's ex-wife when they are in her city visiting. We have had her over for Thanksgiving dinner. Was it 100% comfortable? No, but we did it for the children. Everyone has a past when they are over 18. Accept it, don't make it bigger than it is, and enjoy your relationship. That is very good advice.