No dead beat if no CS agreed on but not paying court
Posted By: ordered CS does equal dead beat, male or female. on 2007-06-19
In Reply to: I have joint custody w/ dad being primary - I pay no child support
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If there are then go back to court. This is a dead beat mom,
dfs
If this were dead beat dad instead of dead beat mom, would
adfs
Maybe we should not beat a dead hourse (sm)
Hopefully we can all agree that what works in one marriage may not in another?
Agreed!
Dump the ape! I liked the lizard better too.
Agreed, ER MT!
If not her, then maybe that Haley girl.
I think it might come down to Chris (Sligh), LaKisha, and Melinda.
For some reason, I really like Gina...but I don't think she'll last too long.
Agreed!
But that was something you agreed to (sm)
and then of course regretted - I'm sorry to hear that. During the divorce, though, did he try to get custody of them initially? And you still don't regret it even after what you went through - you still think it was the right decision? Because I am so struggling with this.
Agreed!
:)
Agreed - he only gets it once a day or
every other day and eats regular dry food, but he is a nibbler and a spoonful of AD gives him a calorie boost.
Agreed and..
One of my children is an attorney!!
Still think society needs to get control of all of this unfounded litigation and so does this daughter. she would never take this case!
Oh so agreed!!! nm
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Agreed Hayseed!
I think is about manners. These things happen, sometimes kids cannot get to the bathroom in time, but they can say excuse me. Still not sure they should be punished if it cannot be helped.
Agreed, Patti.
My first hubby was a good friend but we never should have gotten married. We did produce a wonderful son so we were determined not to be acrimonious for his sake. After the divorce, we were better as friends, and my second husband and I are friends with him and his second wife and hang out occasionally. As a matter of fact, they stood up for us at our wedding. My son wins. There's no reason to be enemies that I can see!
He has agreed the kids should go with me (sm)
He wants to see them of course but he knows they want to live with me. So at least he is being reasonable about that part.
Agreed, very disappointing.
I think Marie should have gone, too distracting now with everybody wondering if she will make it through each dance now. The judges' scores should be given much more weight, as they are the experts.
agreed. He's probably the one that got her started
on whatever crap she's been taking. He seems like an enabler, taping her while she was enbriated (huh???...I love the Soup)
As of 1 minute ago, here's what they agreed on
If you make at least 3000 but don't pay taxes, you'll get 300. If you pay taxes, you'll get 600. Plus, you get an additional 300 per child. Each couple that pays taxes will, therefore, get 1200, plus 300 per kid, as long as they make under 150,000.
Yahoo news had the wrong numbers posted this morning, but everything has been decided on now and above is the info.
agreed except for one thing
I hope the guilty are sitting at home realizing they should take responsibility for their actions and not worry about the video and I also hope that they have enough conscience to actually feel guillty and to realize just how immoral their actions are. unfortunately, it appears people just do not have a heart anymore.
I agreed with you until I started thinking about it....
When my daughter has her immunizations, I didn't sit her down and explain to her what each one was for. We do not have to explain to her that she can now have sex with multiple partners and be protected. We can simply say it is suppose to protect her from a certain type of cancer. What makes me MORE nervous is what will the side effects be ten years from now......I'm going to wait and see what my doctor recommends. I don't live in Texas...Just a thought.
AGREED - the poster has done NO RESEARCH!
Agreed. This world is going to h*ll in a handbasket.
Toddlers wearing bras...I'm sorry, that's just obscene. Are their parents buying them thongs too? Who are these people and why are they breeding?!
I'm so happy. When I told DH, he agreed with you too. Really
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OMG! YES, YES YES!!! AGREED!! LOVE MY TOOL!
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I did until my family finally agreed to get off the
That got rid of the guilt, and made my lack of money seem like less of an issue. Gave up XMas cards, too, except for a few notes to a few special friends & family that I never get to otherwise see or communicate with. Although I'm glad when I don't have to be bombarded with all that worn-out music every time I go to the grocery store, other than that I don't have to hold my breath until the holidays are over. Still, I think the best day is Jan. 2nd, when life finally gets back to some semblance of normal. Until then, I just enjoy the weather, and even though I can't afford to heat it very often, & sometimes the cupboards are bare for a few days until payday, I still consider myself luckier than some others because at least I have a roof over my head, good friends (even if they live a long way away), my health (so far), a PC, and a working TV set. And I try to hold some hope that either the MT business will turn around someday or else there's a more decent job waiting out there somewhere that I just havent found yet.
Agreed--harnesses are much easier & safer :)
When we lived in the city, we let both of our cats out on leashes but they wore harnesses, mainly so they couldn't slip loose. They did start out as kittens with them though, not as adult cats. They would hear me jingle their leashes and harnesses and come RUNNING to be tied outside to the little backyard there. They absolutely loved it and the worst that would happen is they would get tangled to each other and around a bush. I was always around to supervise though...usually enjoying morning coffee out on the back deck listening to the thumping cars and sirened-vehicles drive by. Man do I miss the city--NOT!
Good luck with your kitty! I'm sure you'll be fine! 
Agreed---very sweet smoochable face!
At least SOMEONE is having fun in all this junk!
I did not receive any child support, so we agreed to
split all bills evenly as we have joint custody. That is what our papers say, that we split all major expenses, i.e., clothes, school supplies, education fees, etc.
Please don't beat yourself up over this...
stuff like this happens, unfortunately. My daughter had her bike stolen off our front porch one evening while we were away. And yes, we bought her another one because ALL of the bikes were on the front porch and hers just happened to be the one they took. Hard lessons are definitely not pleasant to learn, but I think that's why we learn from them!
....and the beat still goes on!
 Oh ya, this white girl got 'da moves! (of course now I need to take a couple of Advil before and after said moves...)
is beat them up.
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don't beat yourself up about this....
I would just be honest with the MIL and let her know how upset the girls get before having to stay over and suggest that maybe they just spend the day and come home at night. Too bad if you seem selfish...they are your children and you only want them to be happy. My ex-MIL seems much like yours...She got her way ALL of the time and if for some reason something didn't go her way...I was always the one to take the blame. I became tired of the controlling behavior and told HER that way it was going to BE from now on (this was after her son and I were through)...I did not care how she felt about it at that point because I had stuffed my feelings and my wishes away to accommodate hers for so long that I didn't enjoy holidays as I should have. I regret those lost years. I think she was trying to make up for the years she was raising my ex and basically neglected him and his brothers and wanted to redeem herself with my children. Needless to say...my son has a relationship with her, but my daughter, who is the youngest and was not treated as well by her, sees her maybe once a year, whereas my son sees her weekly. My son had been forced to spend time with her, while my daughter did not. I would pick her up when she would cry at night. Maybe I should have made her stick it out, but this woman was not nice to my daughter in the least. This was even confirmed by my son. So...what the kids get out of their relationship with their grandparents is totally up to the grandparent's efforts. I think it should be a positive experience...If not...skip the overnights...just visit for the day and she will have to deal with it. Who cares if you are the mean one in your MIL's eyes...You are a mother first.
don't beat yourself up...sm
There's no help for that burnt ring in the carpet unless you've got another hunk of the same carpet in left the garage, cut out the burnt part and carefully replace it...Otherwise, a throw rug is always an option.  Cat
I ran around on the first and the 2nd one beat me, so
I got divorced, yes I will take responsibility for the failures. My fault.
I can beat that.
When I first got married, my husband said "where do you keep the ice?" I knew then I was in deep trouble.
Don't beat yourself up on this.
Kids are kids. My son, at age 17, got his 15 yo girlfriend pregnant. Her parents screamed at us at first threatening to have our son arrested, and we screamed at him at first, but then sat down and had a long conversation with him. He didn't want to get married right then and neither did she. They decided to get married when they both graduated from high school, but he couldn't give up his "bum friends" so she broke it off with him after our grandson was 2 yo. Didn't blame her one bit. We are still friendly after all these years. The "baby" is now 18 and they still talk. We see our grandson every 2 weeks since they broke up and we still miss her as a future daughter-in-law, but they are both married to someone else now..
I would say not to get too involved and let them work it out themselves. She is probably going through a lot with the pregnancy and doesn't really mean what she says. She's probably pretty mad at herself for letting herself get pregnant and trying to put the blame on everyone else to make herself feel better. At her age, she probably feels her independent life is over and it's all your son's fault, but it's not all his fault.
My "ex-to-be" daugther-in-law became a nurse making mucho dollars without my son, married a nice guy, had another baby, and we all still get along. All my son did was pay support VOLUNTARILY for the 18 years and keep in touch with his son, including when there was a crisis; i.e., staying out late, etc., and took the fatherly approach, trying to help raise our grandson equally.
Also, her parents and us are still friends although we don't see them as much since the grandson is now almost "a man", and they have other problems I won't go into, but we still wish our son and his ex would have gotten married...that's how much respect we have for her.
Am I making any kind of sense? Email me if you would like to chat further.
Got you beat - 23, 30. 37 and almost 44!
My "baby" just turned 14 and now I'm starting over with grandkids.
Don't beat yourself up...........
I do have a question..... where has their father been? I take it you are divorced, so where has he been....where is his responsibility in all this? In my experience, more times than not, these problems stem from lack of a father figure in the home anyway and I know that from experience.
How convenient for his father not to go get him....after all, he obviously knows you will do what is his responsibility, so why should he bother!!
I realize your son is not a minor any longer, but his father, if a decent human being, could go a long ways in helping his son grow up. Might there have been something in your son's past which leads him to be so clingy and irresponsible? Just wondering. It sounds truly like he is afraid to grow up, low self-esteem, and insecure, so bullying his mom makes him feel important and like a big man because he gets by with it. He knows he couldn't do anyone else like that because they won't tolerate him. If there is any way you could speak with their father, maybe, just MAYBE he could see fit to pull his weight and involve himself a little in their lives to help push them towards a more positive end...
I'm really truly sorry you are having to go through this but you are right; your peace of mind has to come first right now. If you don't put that first, how in the heck are you going to continue to take care of yourself because obviously, your children aren't capable.
Court TV is now Tru TV as of 1 1 08 nm.
nm
Some will go to court WITHOUT you..sm
without informing you. Its your word against theirs that you were/werent served with a notice to appear. Next thing you know, you get a letter that a judgment has been entered against you. (Happened to me, and worse.)
Update - has agreed to send him back to school
Thanks everyone for all your advice. I prayed about it (and prayed that I would say the right things and not the wrong ones) and then I called my ex, who after discussing it for a couple hours, agreed to send him back to school with a note that he was not to go in the locker room unless the school has sanitzed it recently. He also agreed to take the child to his doctor for a checkup and to make sure his immunizations are current, and to see if the doctor had any input regarding anything else that should be done. Hopefully he will do as promised.
"selfish jerk", as you call him, AGREED to help, DESPITE his plans.
nm
Agreed to let hubby have all the refund on the income tax and drat!
See, it is like this. I told hubby to take his check book today because it costs quite a bit to get our taxes filed at H&R and I basically did not care about paying for it this time (between paydays really). I said if you will pay the charges to file, then they will have your check and anything we get back you can have and if we have to pay a really big amount, I will go and take that out of a bigger account in my name and I will pay, so it will be win, win situation for you. Drat! Can I take that back now? He has paid most all the income tax this year, as an independent I did not pay my fair share but yet, now he is getting close to 5,000. Can I renegiogate? Anyone else do this sort of crazy thing and then wish they could take it back? Darn, drat, dagnab it!!!!
Another dead
They just reported on CNN that an 18-year-old girl died from the VT shooting.
Dead Like Me
Showtime didn't give it a chance. At least SCIFI is rerunning it. Oh, also "Firefly." LOVE it!
dead??
didn't Benny Parsons die?? I think he had cancer. . I could be wrong. . I'm not sure if he drove a Dodge or not. . .
dead serious
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So do I. Rather be dead.
xx
Got you beat by miles! $3.23 in CA (sm)
and $86 to fill up our Expedition. Which is why we mostly keep it parked in the garage nowadays. Bought in back in 1999 before all this gas price gouging hooey.
How do you beat the boredeom?
I'm off tomorrow, but I'm so bored and restless today I can't stay in my seat. Usually I can motivate myself by remembering that the poor house is just around the corner, but I'm really chopping at the bit today and I don't want to do this. I have about 5 hours to go - any words of inspiration? TIA
women beat themselves up - it NEVER - sm
has anything to do with you, male, female or animal. It is his behavior. You cannot change that. You can get really miserable trying to - been there, done that.
have always loved your name - got you beat
on age - but my Ipod goes from Creed to Peter Gabriel to Staind to Paul Rodgers and in between Lonestar and Indigo Girls and Oh, my new favorite song - the theme from Saving Grace by Everlast! It is so much more convenient than the CD player. I got a little shuffle cause I wanted to start slow and make sure I could work things and I'm doing fine.
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