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Posted By: to have sex and be "married" to old man? n on 2008-04-17
In Reply to: Well, that's great for you, and that's your right... - MT

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what 'stories' were you told as a child that you
My son was here earlier, and was telling us how in health class one of his classmates said his grandpa told him that buggers were actually little pieces of the MOTHER bugger, that blocked the passage to the brain, that was why teachers did not want kids to pick their noses, their brains would fall out. This was in Jr High, and the kid still believed it. We never told our kids stuff like that, but I do remember my mom told me if I itched my bites on my legs I would get sick, so my older sister told me I would get cancer if I itched them. I had an aunt that had recently died of cancer, so it really freaked me out, and I layed in bed all night crying that I was dying. My mom was pretty mad at my sister for that one!!
I was told by a child I was doing drugs --
because that is what they were teaching in elementary school.
What would you do if your grown child told you
she felt like she had to walk on egg shells to be around you? Would you a) not be around her very much or at all or  b) try to change who you are to fit in with what shethinks you should be like or c) just forget what she said? We are talking a 36 year old and I, her mother, on the other side of 65.
nobody has taken your rights away...sm
however, I personally think you are wrong to think abortion is okay and that you don't believe in god. but that is none of my business either. I am not stopping you from doing what you want to do. But even though you do not believe in god, you must still have a conscience and know that killing another being is wrong. JMO. may god have mercy on your soul.
My rights

Okay, so the school takes the kids on a field trip to see the gay marriage of their teacher and this is a because the school considers it a learning experience?  And so, too bad to those people whose religion this goes against.  But if I were a teacher or ran a school and it was decided that we would be taking our children on a field trip to say a Christian church or maybe Israel where Jesus lived and died, you know totally as a learning experience and to teach them the history of a man that many people, even those who are not Christians, believed to have lived, there would be world wide riots!  Parents would be spitting mad, the school would be sued, it would be national news and I would be fired.  It would be againts people's beliefs and I would be "shoving my religion down their throats" and blah blah blah. 


Being gay is a sin.  I didn't come up with that God Our Father and Creator made that one up.  The Bible speaks VERY plainly about it many times.  Tolerance does NOT mean agreement.  Tolerance is NOT accepting something that is wrong.  Saying that it is wrong is NOT intolerance.  I dont think that someone who is gay should be shunned, beaten, publically humiliated.  That is tolerance. 


If you already have visitation rights. sm
Sounds like her rights to see her son are totally controlled by the dad.
You can but no one else can? Exercise those rights
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Gays have been trying to get rights
since the 1950's. Gays only want to be treated and have the same rights as heterosexuals. You have such hatred for gays that I feel sorry for you but then again, it is fear and ignorance that people such as yourself feel this way. There is a high suicide rate of gay children because of the bullying. We are no different than you and I can assure you we do not shove any type of agenda down your throats. I am sure you are the type that if your son or daughter came out to you, you would disown them. Now you tell me what kind of a parent is that? We pay our bills, taxes, own houses, etc., so what is so different from you and from me in daily living? So sad there are still homophobes this day and age.
I think I agree with you - first amendment rights.

Personally I would come down hard on the kid at home, but if I had to I would get ACLU to defend his right to say it.


What about 1st amend. rights of mom who posted
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I am exercising my first amendment rights!!
nm
We are not talking about denying their rights. If anything

they would actually be getting more rights than heterosexual students because they would be getting a school designed for them.  Plenty of heterosexual high schoolers are harrassed and bullied and nowhere is there a school dedicated to serving these kids.  They are referred to counselors and support groups designed to teach them how to cope.  It's segregation pure and simple, only now it's a minority group segrating itself from society.  And let's not forget this isn't a private school where the homosexual students pay tuition, this is a public, state funded school.  The cost of running this "special" school comes out of the pockets of all taxpayers.  How is that fair?  If they want their own school, it should be a private school that requires them and their families pay a tuition. 


What about Gay Rights and FOCA (abortion) then?
hmmmm?

We can legalize Gays and Abortion but prostitution, pot, marijuana etc. (much lesser evils) should be "prosecuted heavily", oh come on .... It's all about "feeling good". If gays 'feel good' with each other and teenage moms 'feel good' to abort then what's your issue with pot or marijuana users? Don't they have a right to feel good with all the economic benefits for government?
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
He gave up his parental rights; end of story.
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It is in the not-so-distant past that women had very few rights! (sm)
My mother was sexually abused by her stepfather - it was the 60s - she went to the police and they told her to go home. She ran away from home and they took her back. She told family members and they told her to keep it quiet. She eventually somehow pressed charges and took him to court...and the judge told her to go home and forget about it.
Actually I have a very good tenants' rights BOOK - sm
from Nolo Law. Mentions everything but the kitchen sink - EXCEPT renovation evictions. STILL, now what am I supposed to do when applying for a new apartment? All the applications ask if you've been evicted, and yet having lived here so long, none of my previous landlords is even ALIVE. Do they have to tell a prospective landlord I've been kicked out, even if it wasn't for doing anything wrong (except for living here too long)?
Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -
A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.
Debbie Rowe's rights are intact -
A judge ruled that there was no psychological evaluation done of her when she gave the kids to Michael and dropped the custody case, so even though she gave up custody, her parental rights were not legally severed.

She will be the one to benefit from this situation unless somebody else pays her off again.
The father has as much rights as the mother to make decisions....sm
about the child, gifts, etc. I know you want what is best for the child but it's really between your daughter and ex-son-in-law to discuss this. Even if your daughter doesn't want this, there's nothing she can do about it other than educate the child about how much candy to eat at once is appropriate.
read a Tenants Rights brochure for your answer
nm
Gays march for their rights to be involved with their long-time partners
health care should a drastic decision be made. It is usually a family member...even though we are the ones who take care of our partners when they are sick or dying. We fight for the right not to be thrown out of a shared house by the partner's parents. We want to honor our partner's wishes when they die as we are the ones who have spent years with them - not the family. These are just a few examples.

As far as your comment that we influence young people - that is absurd. All we want is to live our life and as pxmt said, be able to walk down the street without abusive comments, being assaulted, ridiculed, etc.

The school system is not segregating gay children - they are making it "gay friendly and teaching tolerance". Suicide is very high in gay children because of the parents who teach their children that it is evil and it is okay to bash a gay child. These schools are just trying to save the lives of young children.

As far as your comment that Christian's homes and churches are burned, sorry but I cannot recall one incident that I have read or saw on the news. Temples yes. As far as being assaulted for your beliefs, could it be because you stand in front of abortion clinics and gun down the doctors and nurses that come out or go into the clinic? Could it be that you bully the 15 and 16-year-olds who have been raped and want an abortion?

Sorry to say this, at least we (gays) are not violent and just want to be left alone.
Dh just told me a something
before it got back home.  He took my oldest daughter to an out of town football game.  Me and the baby stayed home as it is really too cold for her to be out.  Well, he told me that this gal (recently divorced and hot to trot) came and sat by him and they were enjoying the game together.  He said people were staring.  All I said was "okay."  Okay, I need to keep my head.  I should just trust Dh but we are having marital problems and the subject of divorce has come up but I thought we were going to put it behind us and work it out.   Help me not blow up and blow it out of proportion.  I can sometimes loose my head. 
That's what they were told - sm
That the repair would be so obvious, it would be like night and day. I don't know, I guess if it were me, I would definitely want to know just exactly how much my premium would be going up before I made a decision. They do have the option of just havig their LR done for 200-300 dollars though, versus having the entire carpeting replaced and paying a higher premium. So, in reality, they will be paying for the carpeting anyway, like a poster above said.
He just told her (sm)
that he was about to compliment her, and that she could ditch the surprised act and just say thank you. He said something like that a couple of times, in other words to not act so surprised she's getting a compliment and like, really? really? me? and just say thank you, and that's what she did.

She really sang great last night, like she does just about every time.
Boy was I just told - NOT - sm

I just got a call from the mother of this girl who comes over now and then telling me that I am a horrible hostest and how dare I make her daughter feel uncomfortable.


OH PUH-LEEEEEEZ! 


I'm laughing, hoping this means we won't see this brat OR her nasty witch of a mother darken our doorstep again.


So this is what happened.   The girl comes over to "hang out".  I was up from my desk moving a load of laundry from washer to dryer and when I walked back into my office, there she is, typing away on MSN messenger talking to friends. 


It is a well known rule in this house by EVERYONE, including the kids that come over, that they do NOT even look in the direction of my computer because it is a company computer and my income depends on it.  There are TWO other computers that are for family use.  STAY OUT!  Clear enough?  Apparently not to this little brat.


I came back into my office and told her she needed to get away from my desk, telling her for the millionth time that it is my work desk only.   I was nice at this point but not happy.


She then tells me "Just a second, I'm talking."   That's when I blew a gasket!


I said, "Get out. Go home. Now."  Very firm but not yelling and screaming like I would have loved to do.   She turns around and makes this face at me, then pushes my chair back really hard as she is getting up and it bounces off my bookshelf, giving it a good rattle.  So as she was walking out the door I simply told her, do not come back. You are not welcome.  


Then her witchy mother called.   I couldn't care less what the hag was yelling about so I just interrupted her and said, "HEY!   She's 15.  She should know better than to act like that in someone's home and if YOU don't teach her that BEFORE she does that somewhere else, this will NOT be the last time she gets the boot!" And hung up on her.


My kids were hiding in the hall giggling as all this took place.  They never had the guts to tell her to get lost.


Before anyone tries putting a guilt trip on me... this kid is FAR from neglected, comes from a nice home, parents are well off, just SPOILED beyond belief and she believes that everyone should jump when she says jump.   I AM NOT PLAYING ALONG! 


I told her she should have said

They wouldn't like you either! 


What nerve, what stupidity on his part, what ignorance.  I am going to address how I feel about cats personally in a separate post and comment on some of the responses I have received. I am very appreciative of the responses and the dialogue back and forth. It is in some way healing, at least to me, and I hope to others.


tell her exactly what you told us
and she needs to be aware of the STDs out there..They think it will never happen to them, but it can...that is why talking with a GYN or nurse practitioner would be a good thing to give her pamphlets and brochures and also keep the lines of communication open between the two of you.
I was always told not to mix

your alcohols (wine coolers, beer, cocktails, etc), but more importantly don't break the seal or you'll be in the ladies' room all night.


Have Fun!!!


Perhaps I should have told the
whole story, but just wanted thoughts based on the information I did provide and the assumption that it did happen. What would you do if it were your child and you were certain that this is what was said?

Thanks to those who have responded. I look forward to seeing what others have to say as well.
Told her that already.
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What I told
I have three - told them the truth.  It worked for my daughters, worked some for my son.  One of the big issues was "parties" and I just said no.  They asked why.  I told them that I knew them and did not think they would find it especially fun to watch their friends and themselves drink and ralph on other people's shoes.  I actually described a few parties I had been to and all the graphic details.  They believed me and decided not to go to parties until they were old enough to leave on their own power whenever they wanted.  I just told all of them the graphic truth (my mother did not tell me and let me learn everything on my own - that was not such a good idea either in my opinion and she could have saved me a lot of grief if she had only spoken up.  My son did drink when he was 18, but only at someone's home and says he did not drive.  I believe him because he is now 37 and has no reason not to tell me the truth anymore.  So, tell what you feel comfortable with.  I think parents can have a big impact on their children when they are honest. 
Have you told them what you told us?

I'd lay it right out to them like you just did here.  Maybe they truly have no clue as to how it makes you feel.


He just told you
that he's looking for other options. He was being honest with you - he looked and hasn't found anything YET. Get a lawyer, get out of the marriage, and get on with your life.
My ex-MIL told the ex that she would
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When my MIL first told me.....
I told her that my SIL was lying.  MIL said she thought so too until the doctor said she was pregnant.  Still....no ultrasound or anything performed.  Still holding out for this to be a false positive. 
I have been told that once a dog sm
tastes blood the urge will never stop. I have no idea if this is true, but it seems to make sense in some cases.
I was told that
in the morning is the best time because the pregnancy hormone is most concentrated during that time.


Told ya so! About getting a cat, I mean
I remember when you posted about your mouse problem a few weeks ago.  Good for you.  I have a cat who is a mousing champion!  He would rather catch mice than eat or sleep.  I know it's gross, but I don't have any mice.
My DH has never hit me, told him before- sm
we married that if he ever did I would divorce him in two seconds flat (that and cheat on me). I will never put up with any man physically abusing me.
Ok, did what the vet told me to do
this morning, well tried to do it lets say. I was supposed to feed my big kitty separate from the other 2 so all 3 each had their own bowl, water and I took my big boy in my work room, set him and the food down and you would think I was punishing him! He went and crouched under a chair. I just gave up on that idea but what I did do was put all their food down, allowed them x amount of minutes and then took everything up, dried and wet food. Instead of several times a day treats now will only get 2 each at night (very small bits of treats) so hopefully can make it thru the day- might be like trying to get an addict to come off their drugs. Wish me luck.
This is what I was told
by H&R block. I owe big last year because even though I payed estimated I did not pay enough (like I only paid half of what I should have paid, so I owe a lot from last year), plus now my taxes have doubled this year, so what she told me to do is pay the quarterly on time and each month send whatever I can in to the IRS, but make sure I do it every month on a consistent basis so they see you are making good with trying to pay it off. I'll have to explain to them that there is only one income, my taxes doubled this year and I will be paying every month until last years bill is paid off. She said if you call them and set up a payment plan they charge you a $25 fee for setting it up, plus interest for not paying it on time. She said this way you'll still be charged the interest, just not the set up fee. I have worked with the IRS in the past and they really aren't as bad as everyone makes them out to be. They have always worked with me in the past and I never got any hassles. But you know...this just sucks big time. I was barely making it last year. Now this year I work 2 weeks every month just to pay taxes. That only gives me 2 weeks a month to pay the rest of my bills. Which means I will be working 7 days a week as many hours as I can fit in a day for the remainder of my life. Will this madness ever end?
What my vet told me
I know some of this is no good since she's already got parvo, but my vet told me this about parvo prevention:

Spray the yard with bleach water wherever the puppy will be going out until they have completed there shots.

NEVER let your dog walk into the vet clinic before they are done with there shots. I had to carry my boxer pup in yesterday and he's 20 pounds now at 12 weeks!

Things could change very rapidly. My mom had a puppy that was fine when she went to bed and dead when she got up in the morning from parvo. It takes over quick.

My mom and I have brought a whole litter back minus one from parvo before, but it required around the clock attention and we both work with horses and have both worked in a vets office where we knew how to give IVs, etc. It was a very long week for us, but after about five days they were back to eating on their own and drinking well and playing.

I wish you luck. I've become very attached to my puppy and if something happened to him I'd be devastated. We are both praying for your puppies good health!
She might have told him (sm)
People often know when they're are going to die. She might have told him it was going to happen and when.

It sounds like he might have been there when she died though, too. It's hard to say. That poor husband...
someone told me....
that I should get checked for vitamin D deficiency. I just started working midnights from home at my new MT job first of March, and the weather here has been stormy a lot, my step-mom I believe thinks I'm starting to have vitamin D deficiency because I've been complaining of body aches here the last few weeks to a month and am constantly tired and I've been feeling depressed in a way. I thought the tiredness was just from lack of sleep trying to get adjusted to this new schedule...I hope its not deficiency, but I wondered how long it takes for symptoms to show up since its only been a few months, I don't think that's it...
I told everyone at 6 weeks...
then waited to tell son when we had first ultrasound...
She already told me she called and they said SM
she can't until March because they already had a claim.  They would be cancelled if they claimed it.  It does cover it, though.
My opinion, she should not have told them
Definitely should be up to the parents. All kids are going to hear the truth from peers at school . . . no way around that, but the teacher should have enough sense to realize that some parents would be upset with an adult spilling the beans. I know my older son (middle school now) was told a few times by friends at school. I finally told him in 5th grade (my parents never told me, and Santa still visits me). At the time, I was struggling with some religious issues dealing with extended family, and I really wanted him to understand that God is real (at least to those who believe), and did not want him thinking the same way about that when he learned the truth about Santa. My younger son is in 5th grade now, the autistic 10-year-old mentioned in the punishment thread. He has been told, and I just have not had the heart to confirm it with him.

By the way, the older son was told that as long as he kept quiet "Santa" would still bring presents.
I told the physician
I had them, have typed on this so long knew what they were and sure enough, have. What I am asking is there anyone out there who has had any sort of treatment for them or is this just a bothersome thing that continues. TIA
I think your gut has already told you what your head
knows - avoid this change at all costs.  I won't go into all the reasons I would avoid because you know them in your heart - best of luck!
You sorta told her what she really needs to know, that being
you said MTs getting out of the business by the hundreds. If I read this, then I would think,hmmmmm wonder why? There must be a reason for this, after all I can work and still stay home, must be a dream job. To say she can do MTing and be home with her family, sorta of an oxymoron now days, don't you think? I think she would do good to read over a lot of the posts and see exactly how the people are feeling today about their work, lack of, pay and again lack of and then find out if she wants to chance this. Lots of MTs not only on the fence about their jobs but lots questioning what other jobs they could get into. So much unrest in this business now. I would never tell a person to start here. Posts all the time about not thinking it is going to be around with outsourcing, VR and the like. Being a stay at home mother is 1 thing but trying to provide and stay home, this is a chancy risk at this time.