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Wow - birth control = killing embryos? sm

Posted By: TechSupport on 2009-03-10
In Reply to: Oh hurry up and outlaw IUDs then, eh? They prevent sm - CDW

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There most certainly WAS birth control back then--sm
it was called ABSTINANCE.
birth control pills
There are enough hormones in birth control pills to make you have a period, even if you are in menopause.

But menopause is not a disease and it most definitely is not a mental disease.

I plan on spoiling myself during this special time. To me, it will be just as magical as before it started and I will be just as happy to see it go, but I am certainly not sick or crazy because my hormones are rockin.
birth control pills
I am so thrilled to see that you think that there is nothing mental about menopause!! All the power to you!!
I personally know how "mental" PMS was and am very thankful for an OB/GYN who agrees that the safest way to combat the mood altering affects of menopause is for me to stay on Depo until I am at least 50 and then if I have any symptoms, I will go right back on it.
I do not intend to suffer any more than I have to. I have enjoyed 13+ years of no PMS thank you very much!! Oh and my MIL went through menopause about 12 years ago and still has hot flashes and nightsweats as does a DA so I am not sure when the symptoms all go away, but I will do whatever possible to avoid the "mental" ones anyway!!!!
The government will pay for birth control..
go to a planned parenthood. Very very cheap. There really is no excuse for 7 kids and no job for either parent. Join the military, get a job, like you said, at Wendy's or Wal-Mart or something. I am not against a hand up, but I am very much against a hand out.
Has anyone tried the Mirena birth control device or anything like it? sm

Having lots or problems with the pill and looking for new options. Thanks


No birth control pills when I had the abortions,
now how does that date me? The forms before the pills just not that good. When the BCP first came on the market, you were supposed to be married in order to obtain it. Facts that younger people would not even know now probably. Much easier now for younger people.
abstinance is the best form of birth control there is--sm
as opposed to killing babies. JMO. Besides coffee is bitter smelling and so is this. Wake up to life!
Abstinence is not Birth Control, it is SAFE SEX.
Abstinence is truly the only SAFE SEX....but it is NOT considered birth control........
Yes it is...no sex...no preggo...hence birth control. ummmm. nm
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Anything you think you can avoid by home schooling, not getting birth control, etc
for your children, talking incessantly about all the no-nos associated with premarital sex, etc will more than likely fall on deaf ears when it comes to children. I did live in a really big city and regardless of small or large, the girls are maturing much earlier and a lot involved in sex earlier than we as parents would like to believe. You can give a child talk after talk but restrictions, talking, home schooling, etc only goes so far with growing kids. You cannot protect your kids like you would really like to.
News flash: NO birth control is 100% effective.

Maybe she was on birth control. Who knows?  The Spears' do not seem like intelligent people to me, so maybe she wasn't smart enough to be on birth control, but remember that even the pill is only 99% effective when taken perfectly, and I imagine most women forget a pill every now and then, which lowers its effectiveness even more.  I hope and pray my kids don't have children at a young age, but if they do I will accept their children with open arms and try to be the best grandma I can be.  Much of life is about making the best of a bad situation.  Not everything is picket fences and roses.


Question on birth control and missed periods...sm
Has anyone ever skipped their period by starting a new pack of pills instead of doing the "period" week? I used to do this every now and then with my old brand of pills and never had any problems. When the next month would come along the period would start right when it was supposed to. I was switched a few months back to a new pill, generic Ortho Cyclen, and decided to skip my period over Christmas. It is now time for my period and nothing is happening. Anyone ever have this happen??  Thanks
She may be asking about it as a form of birth control, too. Time for "the talk." 13 is NOT too
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It sort of does make a difference when they use it as a form of birth control...
just my opinion.
Girl up for expulsion for taking birth control at school

This is a local story. Crazy, crazy, crazy.


Student Suspended for Popping Birth-Control Pill LSD or heroin use only gets five days out


By ASHA BEH
Updated 11:15 AM EDT, Sun, Apr 5, 2009


A gun or birth-control? Bringing either to school lands you a two-week suspension in Virginia.


A Fairfax County teen has been suspended for two weeks -- and might also get kicked out of school -- for popping a birth-control pill at school.


The honor student and lettered athlete at Oakton high school was caught taking the pill during lunch and soon found herself in the assistant principal's office, The Washington Post reported. During the meeting with her mother and the assistant principal, the school handed down the maximum sentence: a two-week suspension and recommendation for expulsion.


That's the rule in Virginia regarding prescription medications and illegal drugs on campus. And make no mistake, anti-teen pregnancy campaign or not, they take that rule seriously.


It's all in the Student Responsibilities and Rights handbook: If she had been caught high on LSD, heroin or another illegal drug, she would have been suspended for five days. Taking her prescribed birth-control pill on campus, on the other hand, gets the same punishment as bringing a gun to school.


No birth control sales, no candy sales,

CHANTILLY, Va. — A new drug store at a Virginia strip mall is putting its faith in an unconventional business plan: No candy. No sodas. And no birth control. Divine Mercy Care Pharmacy is among at least seven pharmacies across the nation that are refusing as a matter of faith to sell contraceptives of any kind, even if a person has a prescription.


States across the country have been wrestling with the issue of pharmacists who refuse on religious grounds to dispense birth control or morning-after pills, and some have enacted laws requiring drug stores to fill the prescriptions.


In Virginia, though, pharmacists can turn away any prescription for any reason.


"I am grateful to be able to practice," pharmacy manager Robert Semler said, "where my conscience will never be violated and my faith does not have to be checked at the door each morning."


Semler ran a similar pharmacy before opening the new store, which is not far from Dulles International Airport. The store only sells items that are health-related, including vitamins, skin care products and over-the-counter medications.


On Tuesday, the pharmacy celebrated a blessing from Arlington Bishop Paul S. Loverde. While Divine Mercy Care is not affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church, it is guided by church teachings on sexuality, which forbid any form of artificial contraception, including morning-after pills, condoms and birth control pills, a common prescription used by millions of women in the U.S.


"This pharmacy is a vibrant example of our Holy Father's charge to all of us to wear our faith in the public square," said Loverde, who sprinkled holy water on the shelves stocked with painkillers and acne treatments. "It will allow families to shop in an environment where their faith is not compromised."


The drug store is the seventh in the country to be certified as not prescribing birth control by Pharmacists for Life International. The anti-abortion group estimates that perhaps hundreds of other pharmacies have similar policies, though they have not been certified.


Earlier this year in Wisconsin, a state appeals court upheld sanctions against a pharmacist who refused to dispense birth control pills to a woman and wouldn't transfer her prescription elsewhere. Elsewhere, at least seven states require pharmacies or pharmacists to fill contraceptive prescriptions, according to the National Women's Law Center. Four states explicitly give pharmacists the right to turn away any prescriptions, the group said.


The Virginia store's policy has drawn scorn from some abortion rights groups, who have already called for a boycott and collected more than 1,000 signatures protesting the pharmacy.


"If this emboldens other pharmacies in other parts of the state, it could really affect low-income and rural women in terms of access," said Tarina Keene, executive director of the Virginia chapter of the National Abortion Rights Action League.


Robert Laird, executive director of Divine Mercy Care, believes many of the estimated 50,000 Catholics within a few miles of the store will support its mission and make up for the roughly 10 percent of business that contraceptives represent in a typical pharmacy.


Whether Catholics will be drawn to the pharmacy is uncertain. According to a Gallup poll published last year for an extensive study of U.S. Catholicism called American Catholics Today, 75 percent of U.S. Catholics said you can still be a good Catholic even if you don't obey church teachings on birth control.


Catherine Muskett said she plans to shop at the drug store even though she lives more than 20 miles away.


"Obviously it's good to support pro-life causes. Every little bit counts," said Muskett, one of about 75 people who crowded into the tiny shop for Tuesday's ceremony.
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http://www.naralva.org/instate/pharmacy.shtml


The more embryos the guy implants, most likely
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Yes, but let's tell the truth and protect the embryos too. sm
Many geneticists have developed strong reservations about the relative value of ESC research versus ASC research. Obviously, every dollar that goes for ESC research does NOT go to ASC research. Both ESC and ASC research have been going on furiously around the world ever since stem cells were discovered, but it is the ASC research that has proven to be the most promising.

Yes, continue with ESC research, but not by de-funding ASC research, and not, by any means NOT, without protections for unborn human beings.

There really is no debate here.
Embryos are NOT people. They are cells, not a "preborn person" . nm
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You guys are killing me...LOL!!!!
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You guyz are killing me
What a hoot!!!!!
All of the above, plus killing a spider
plus Friday the 13th, plus putting shoes on a table, plus stepping on cracks in sidewalk, plus handing someone a pin! Um, just a lil' bit. LOL
Supposedly killing a spider
brings bad luck.
I always end up spilling coffee on mine and killing them
Either that, or they slowly fill up with cat hair, and die a slow, lingering death by asphyxiation.........
guess you are a vegan too, since killing cows - sm
and pigs is murder, then again eating the vegetable is murder too since you are killing a living thing. We can twist this 1000 different ways.
he is feeling out of control and he wants control
and from what you wrote, you aren't giving him opportunities to have some control.

My 4 yo has had this type of behavior since the age of 2-1/2, but I've figured out how to deal with it. First of all, he wants your attention, good, bad, indifferent and wants some say so in what happens to him.

I've done several things. With the screaming, I totally ignore her. I tell her my ears are closed and I can't hear her, but if she wants to cry/scream, she can't do it in MY living room (bedroom, whatever), only in HER bedroom. If she refuses to stay in her room, I take away her favorite snuggly and put it on the top of something, out of reach but visible. She can have it back when she stays in her room and stops being loud. If she keeps coming out, I put another coveted stuff up out of reach, over and over until she realizes I mean she has to stay in her room. I don't tell her she has to stop her fit or crying...she just can't do it in MY space. She can come back to where I am if she is quiet.

I make sure she knows I am in control, but we negotiate almost everything. If I want her to drink milk for breakfast and she wants juice, I tell her okay but she has to drink the milk at lunch. That gives her a sense of control and having a say in what is happening to her.

I have also had to sit on her bed for HOURS, holding her by wrapping my arms around her while she screams and kicks and bites until she begs to be let go. I won't let go until the out of control stuff stops. I don't talk except to say "I'll let you go when you are quiet." It is exhausting, but it only took a few times for her to understand I would invest the time and she hated being held like that for so long.

When I work at home, I make sure I take a break about every 90 mins and spend about 30 mins with her. It takes me all day to get my work done, but it makes all the difference in the world.

If she won't pick up something (say, blocks) after being asked upteen times, I tell her I will give them away to a child who wants to take care of them. It only took losing one set of blocks for her to get the idea she HAS to clean up her messes.

Finally, after being potty trained for at least a month and then rebelling and making messes in her pants for a week in a row (this happened 3 times), I finally told her in a very loud voice that _I_ had control over whether or not she went trick or treating and whether or not Santa comes to our house. If she wanted to have those things, she better use the potty and no more messes. She has been dry since the beginning of October and I give her a treat every day she stays dry.

One day a couple of weeks ago, she wanted to go to Mickie Dee's, but as we drove up she started shouting about wanting to go inside. I wanted to drive through. We were in the drive through line and I calmly told her sometimes people get mad and yell at someone else, but maybe it was an accident...I asked if she wanted to tell me sorry for yelling at me or did she want to go home. She shook her head "no" to apologizing. I repeated my offer and again got "no." I drove off towards home which immediately threw her into tears and whining, but now she doesn't yell at me anymore if she wants something.

Since October we have far fewer melt downs and I have realized she actually shows me her triggers...If she is angry and grumpy on the way home from somewhere, I hand her an energy bar to munch and suddenly I have a sunshine child again. If she gets grumpy in the middle of the day and refuses to take a nap, I tell her we will lie down on my bed. We start out talking and before too long, I tell her I am tired and want to close my eyes, but not go to sleep. Pretty soon, she will close her eyes and fall asleep. I can then get back up and go about my business.

Before somebody starts bashing me, I have a close friend who is a child psychologist and she helped me with all these suggestions. It takes a lot of work to maintain the appearance of control while giving the child the opportunity of having some say so in his/her life.
Dog killing and mayor involved in letter writing
I am really in a twizzy this morning. Shirley Franklin, city of Atlanta mayor, wrote a letter to the judge involved in the Michael Vick dog fighting/killing asking for leniency as, how she put it, Vick had done a lot for the community and helped folks out. Phooey!!! I hope personally he never is able to return to the Falcons or any other football team. I think whatever he was able to accomplish was blown by the fact that he participated in the killing of dogs. How inhumane is that? I hope PETA gets out and strikes each and every time (if he is rehired by any jackoffs) he is supposed to be playing. Came from the ghetto and I suppose the thug still in him. What a shame. Never made a million in my life and he made mega millions and then threw it all away for ??? I am vexed by her doing such a deed and will send letter stating my feelings.
US Soldier Kills 4 Fellow Troops Before Killing Himself At US Base In Iraq

***UPDATE*** The Associated Press reveals more details about the shooter:


The suspect had been disarmed after an earlier incident at the center but returned with another weapon, according to a senior military official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation into the shootings was ongoing.

***UPDATE*** The American soldier who shot dead five fellow soldiers at a U.S. base in Baghdad is in custody.


"The shooter is a US soldier and he is in custody," US marine corps lieutenant Tom Garnett, a US military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters.


The New York Times adds some perspective to the tragedy:


The killings appeared to be the worst case of soldier-on-soldier violence among the American forces based in Iraq since the invasion more than six years ago.
The shootings, which took place at a stress clinic, highlight the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among U.S. soldiers, notes the Guardian:


Stress is one of the biggest killers of US soldiers in Iraq. About a fifth of all US troops are thought to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, contributing to high divorce and suicide rates. An estimated one fifth of the 4,292 members of the US force in Iraq have died from non-combat causes, either in accidents or from suicide.
***UPDATE*** According to Fox News, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs Monday relayed President Obama's response to the tragedy. Obama expressed shock and sadness and is promising to fully investigate what exactly transpired at Camp Liberty, so as to prevent such incidents in the future.



***UPDATE*** AP has another update. The shooting was at a 'stress clinic':


Pentagon officials say five Americans are dead after a U.S. soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad. They say the attacker is in custody.


The officials say the shootings happened on Camp Liberty at a stress clinic, where troops can go for help with the stresses of combat or stress from personal issues.


One senior military official in Washington says it's unclear whether those killed are workers at the clinic or were there for counseling. He says officials also are unsure whether all the dead are members of the military.



***UPDATE*** ABC News reports that the U.S. soldier who attacked fellow troops on a U.S, base in Iraq has killed five of them and is now in custody. Initial reports suggested that he had turned the gun on himself after his rampage.


***UPDATE*** AP now reports that the U.S. soldier who went on a rampage against his fellow troops in Iraq may have survived the incident:



Pentagon officials say five U.S. soldiers are dead after an American soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad.


The officials say the shootings happened Monday at Camp Liberty near Baghdad's airport.


One senior military official in Washington said it was not yet clear whether the shooter was among the dead. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the circumstances surrounding the deaths are under investigation.


Initial reports indicated the Army soldier shot several others, then turned the gun on himself. But it was unclear whether he, too, had died.



***UPDATE*** CNN reports that 3 other U.S. soldiers were wounded during the friendly fire incident that has left 5 U.S. troops dead. An American soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself.


According to the Washington Post, it is the single greatest loss of life in a single incident involving U.S. soldiers since a truck bomb last month took the lives of 5 American soldiers.


***UPDATE*** CNN has just sent out a breaking news alert reporting that senior defense officials have told the network that a US soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself. Check back for more information.


McClatchy is reporting that a shooting at a U.S. base in Baghdad has left 5 soldiers dead. The shooting occurred at Camp Liberty, a base near the Baghdad airport.



 


Southern by birth
Full of holes.....
I think my mom and your mom were separated at birth. nm
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Giving birth at 70?

A 70-year-old woman from India claims she has become the world's oldest new mother.


Rajo Devi and her husband Bala Ram had wanted a child in all their 50 years together.

She claims to have given birth to a baby girl at the end of November after having IVF treatment. Her husband is 72.


Your birth place

Have you moved or been back to the place (town) you were born? Has is changed drastically or is it pretty much the same?


I was just looking a pictures online of mine and it hasn't changed all that much.


Were you the one who just gave birth?
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gave birth later
I was 29 with the first and 38 with the second with no birth defects
Celebrating the birth of my first grandchild, sm
born Friday afternoon at 12:37 p.m. They are coming home today, I am heading to their house to help out, my daughter tore a lot during delivery, is sore, so I want to do whatever I can, and enjoy the baby, BTW, a girl, 7 pounds, 15 ounces. Yikes, it's official, I really am getting old.
Woman Gives Birth to 8 = Entertainment...sm

Like one poster said, because the human body is just not designed to carry this number of babies, these little ones will most likely suffer  a lifetime of congenital defects or illness.  Also,  I'm sure anyone here who has ever brought  home a baby (whether delivered or adopted), can attest to the physical, emotional, mental, and/or financial strains often associated with parenthood. Mother-infant bonding is vital part of normal human development.  I don't see how these babies will have the opportunity to experience this on an individual basis.  It's very sad that no one (mother or doctor) took their overall health and welfare into consideration.  After being deprived of even a healthy pregnancy, their overall start in life is going to be a very rough one, if they even live.   To exploit this situation in a reality show for the sake of entertainment truly sickens me. 


In a country where endangering a person's life is illegal, anyone involved in a case like this should be prosecuted, IMO.  I would rank this woman's doctor right up there with Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon.


why not cut off the ears at birth to prevent
not circumcising can be reversed, if the boy/man so chooses. Having had a friend working in a gay porn store, hehe, there is a consensus among men that circumcised men miss out...
Sorry, not my year of birth? Why are you angry?
NM
It is the birth of our Savior, Jesus Christ!!!!!!

she died of sepsis. May have something to do with the birth in the Bahamas. sm
She may have developed an infection and it turned into sepsis. I knew a girl once who had a miscarriage, developed sepsis, and almost died 6 months later. She was weak (she may have attributed the severe depression to her weakness from the death of her son), and this just reminded me of that gal I knew. She (the girl I knew) finally went to the doctor and they immediately wheeled her to a room and began IV antibiotics (she, too had developed extremely high fevers), and the surgeon said that had she not come to see a doctor within 24 hours she would have died. And this was MONTHS after the miscarriage....So, just a theory. The doctor on CNN also had this theory - maternal something. I can't remember the diagnosis....
Unborn babies can't talk until they are given birth
gaa-gaa or a coo until probably 3-4 months.  They sleep most of the time right after birth, so when do we ask and receive an answer?
FYI.. I gave birth to a child with hydrocephalus
She'll turn 7 in August, is in first grade, loving it, developing "normally." We had a tough go at first with surgeries, a shunt infection, and finally got her home from the hospital at 6 weeks old, and then had an abrupt shunt failure when she was 5 with emergency surgery. Other than that, you wouldn't know that she has medical issues at all. She is absolutely the light of my life. I can't imagine having snuffed out this little light before it even had a chance to shine.
Birth records are public but are listed under
child's name - not parents - so not sure you could find out this way.
Someone posted a video of birth on youtube!

This is the same mare from last night and it's showing THE EVENT.  Very cool indeed for anyone who wants to watch! 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GN5amcx-w


 


I would pay a million to watch my MAN give birth!!!! LOL
no msg
No, of course not. Women give birth to litters all the
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Did anyone catch this? "is pregnant, has given birth" LOL sm
One is a pregnant woman who has given birth to a healthy baby; he declined to give any other details, including locations.

She 'IS' pregnant but yet she has given birth! Wow, she must be pregnant with twins and only one has delivered thus far, LOL!! Don't ya just love our editing skills as an MT...
A mother ring with my 3 children's birth stones:-)..nm
 - My husband is good to me!
I gave birth to twins, and I have to say they were not born the same minute.
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The very 1st time he talked about killing you, was the time
The guy sounds like a psycho.
in families of SEAHORSES-males carry/give birth