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Yes, a woman can pass it to a man, it is just like any other STD.

Posted By: Spice on 2007-03-01
In Reply to: Can women pass it to men? Sorry if that sounds dumb. - Just courious

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I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female!  If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male.  What about you?
This, too, shall pass. I went thru the same
issues with my now 18 year old when she was 15. I was not pleased, but did my best not to show it - it wasn't easy, mind you. I see that Ellen DeGeneres ad where the raccoon did her eye makeup and shudder - that's what my daughter's eyes looked like! But I tried not to make a fuss - I only drew the line at the jewelry that looked sadistic/maso, and refused to let her wear that, really explaining to her what it meant and stood for. She got the picture. Any how, at 18 she has forgotten all about her "dark days", and looks normal - whatever that is...but no more goth!
Thank you, I will pass it on. nm
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Do you actually pass out?
I had it happen a few times, but only actually passed out cold twice. It has become less frequent over the years. My episodes usually had hot/cold triggers. First time I had a bad sunburn and was putting ice on my face and ended up on the floor. Second time I got out of a hot shower into a cold bathroom (pregnant at the time) but didn't actually pass out completely. Third time I was feeling sick anyway, laying down covered up with a blanket, then got up and got something cold to drink and dropped like a rock.

I think staying hydrated is a big key. However, if this is becoming more frequent, it's time to go back to the doc and start the tests over. I myself would never want a tilt table test since I have motion sickness and know it would make me sick as a dog.

Funny! We have one that we pass around. It got
duct taped his head back on! LOL It's even funnier now!
Just got a chance to pass thru - let me
know how your appointment goes. I know exactly what you are talking about. I have to go to sleep on my side or I get ill. I am rather large in the upper department also - would love it if insurance would pay for a reduction. I haven't ever mentioned it to my doctor either - mainly because for each test that they decide they will run, I see another bill I would have to pay.
Can't you see it all coming to pass? sm
Everything we learned would happen is happening right now.
Just thought I pass it on...
Everyone concentrates on the problems we're having in this country lately: illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, alligators attacking people in Florida ...  Not me. I concentrate on solutions for the problems. It's a win-win situation.

Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.

Any other problems you would like for me to solve today?  

Think about this one:

1. Cows
2..The Constitution
3. The Ten Commandments

C O W S
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the state of Washington? And, they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.

T H E  C O N S T I T U T I O N
They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq .... Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it has worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it anymore.


T H E 1 0  C O M M A N D M E N T S
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouse is this:
You cannot post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal,' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians...It creates a hostile work environment.

Here's some info you should pass on
And to all who read this. I received an email from my cousin (of course one of those forwarded emails so you don't know how true it is, but I could imagine it could happen). Anyway...the email said that when people come up to you to hand you a pamphlet or brochure do not accept it because what they are doing is putting some chemical on the paper that makes the recipient feel faint, disoriented, and then they come back and rob them. After reading that whether or not it's one of those "email hoaxes" my DH said that it certainly could happen expecially with all the criminals we have today. We don't open the door for anyone, even though they can look in the window next to the door and see me sitting here working. Anyway...I don't answer the door and tell them to leave the information at the door - then I let me DH get it :-) Now if its a little kid or whatever I of course will open the door, but here at our house we had a cop show up and wanted to know if some guy was here (don't know what that was about), also we kept getting a something in the mail from the police (who happen to have the same address as the water company and I thought it was my water bill) and I opened it and it was someone who had registered a weapon and they used our address. Also, we have a lot of "undesireable" little gang punks who are now hanging around with the degenerate bully teenage kid next door, a couple houses down some there was a vacant house and squatters came in on it, and the store around the corner has been robbed I think for the 3rd time in a couple years. So, this is a horrible horrible neighborhood. Oh, and twice now we've had unknown guys come up and knock on our door (and I mean not the kind of people I would want to talk to). We want to move, but right now we are "just making it" and most all other places around here are more expensive unless we go to an even more undesireable neighborhood. So we just hope things go okay. But it doesn't help when the PD applies for more funding to add another patrol officer for the town (we now have only 2 or 3 in a town of about 50,000), and they ask for more money to keep the jail open and fire department and it's all voted down. What in the world is up with this town??? Well they'll sure be screaming and yelling when they need someone and nobody comes because they didn't want to pay any more taxes to have a little more safety. (BTW - we sleep with a bunch of tools - you know things with sharp edges that can be thrown if needed, in our bedroom just in case).

Anyway, please pass on to your mom that she should never open the door for anyone she doesn't know (I'm sure you already have) and tell her never accept any paper of any sort. If it's legite they will leave it and she can pick it up later long after they are gone.
I pass on chitlings, no, thanks.....nm
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that is - half the girls - also if they do pass this - sm
how long do they "have" to watch it, 1 minute, 5 minutes, what, a half hour until they change their mind? Once they get this passed, believe me, they will try something else, give an inch, they take a yard.
I know all about that bill they tried to pass and failed so far,
I am against it being mandatory, and yes, I am part of the breed/show world, and did mixed breed rescue, volunteered in a few shows for a long time and it is heart breaking. But, in all the years I volunteered in them, the pedigree cat was rare, I only saw a persian once and a siamese once. I am not out West though. Mandatory spay and neuter will only create a black market. In CA there is already a problem with smuggling puppies in from Mexico, imagine how much worse that will get. And yes, breeders can get a license, but not everyone will get one and unfortunately, it will knock out the good ones, the bad ones always find a way around things. The better answer would be low cost spay and neuter programs so that it is more affordable. I don't know costs in CA, but here in PA they are getting very high. My vet loves me, I spend a fortune there and if somebody gets sick on the weekend, I don't think twice about going to the emergency vet and paying extra costs. I do recall, however, in the pounds I volunteered in that there more pedigree dogs, particularly large ones. In these cases, it seemed people did not do their homework and did not realize the puppy would get so big.

As for pet stores, I would never buy a pet in one of those, nor would I ever let one of my kittens go to them. In fact, my breeding is very small scale, I am most definitely not making money on it, and I am very picky about who let have one of my furry kids, and I do have high quality within my chosen breed, good health and show.

Good luck in CA, but I don't think that bill will ever get passed. It is really not cost effective to the state and like you said, how could they enforce it? People find a way, sad, but true.
I like this idea! Will pass on to a friend who
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DOH! I meant they would NOT pass judgement
...sorry. P.S. Just ignore those who are responding that you are selfish. They have not walked in your shoes!
Thanks Suzanne . I'm sure it'll pass
eventually, just feeling down lately.
is a pass at your 18 year old sister
child molestation. I think that is an insult to the real survivors of molestation.
Georgia schools also socially pass....sm
I had a prior foster child that came to me in the 5th grade that tested to be on the 1st grade reading level and 2nd grade math level. Her prior schools for the past 2 years that she was in foster care before moving to me had report cards for her with A's and B's all over the place. The school here refused to hold her back because she was held back on the 1st grade due to poor attendance while living with her birth parents, even though emotionally she was 8 in a 12-year-old body.

Fortunately for this child while she was living with me we figured out her educational deficits and that she had learning disabilities. We moved her to a specialized group home that has worked with her extensively and she's now in 8th grade and back in mainstream classes. She's making C's and earning them - not having them given to her. I shudder to think what would have happened to her if she hadn't come to my home to figure out she had more problems than the system realized and helped her get the help she needed - she probably would have ended up as a statistic. She still is emotionally behind her peers but hopefully one day will catch up on that aspect. Oh yes, she also went to summer school here and that was 2 weeks - what a joke. All they did was play games half the day outside and did just a little work on reading and math.
Can women pass it to men? Sorry if that sounds dumb.
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No--- bodies pass out of rigor mortis - sm
after so many hours and become normal/rubbery again so to speak, so very possible for his body to bounce at that point. Plus the skin color would change, he is dead, and most likely become darker especially with all the work they did on him. No hoax, he is dead.
woman to woman talk sm

This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT!  Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.


 


 


 


 


 


 


Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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hydrogen peroxide tips - received via email and thought i'd pass on. see inside.
*   This was written by Becky Ransey of Indiana (a doctor's wife), and I
want to share it with you. She was over recently for coffee and smelled
the
bleach I was using to clean my toilet and counter tops. This is what she
told me.. I would like to tell you of the benefits of that plain little
ole
bottle of 3% peroxide you can get for under $1.00 at any drug store.
What
does bleach cost? My husband has been in the medical field for over 36
years, and most doctors don't tell you about peroxide. Have you ever
smelled
bleach in a doctor's office? NO!!! Why? Because it smells, and it is not
healthy! Ask the nurses who work in the doctor's offices, and ask them
if
they use bleach at home. They are wiser and know better! *
**
*Did you also know bleach was invented in the late 40's? It's chlorine,
Folks! And it was used to kill our troops. Peroxide was invented during
WWI
in the 20's. It was used to save and help cleanse the needs of our
troops
and hospitals. Please think about this. *
**
*1. Take one capful (the little white cap that comes with the bottle)
and
hold in your mouth for 10 minutes daily, then spit it out. (I do it when
I
bathe.) No more canker sores, and your teeth will be whiter without
expensive pastes. Use it instead of mouthwash. *
**
*2. Let your toothbrushes soak in a cup of peroxide to keep them free of
germs. *
**
*3. Clean your counters and table tops with peroxide to kill germs and
leave
a fresh smell. Simply put a little on your dishrag when you wipe, or
spray
it on the counters. *
**
*4. After rinsing off your wooden cutting board, pour peroxide on it to
kill
salmonella and other bacteria. *
**
*5. I had fungus on my feet for years until I sprayed a 50/50 mixture of
peroxide and water on them (especially the toes) every night and let
dry. *
**
*6. Soak any infections or cuts in 3% peroxide for five to ten minutes
several times a day. My husband has seen gangrene that would not heal
with
any medicine but was healed by soaking in peroxide. *
**
*7. Fill a spray bottle with a 50/50 mixture of peroxide and water and
keep
it in every bathroom to disinfect without harming your septic system
like
bleach or most other disinfectants will. *
**
**
**
*8. Tilt your head back and spray into nostrils with your 50/50 mixture
whenever you have a cold, plugged sinus. It will bubble and help to kill
the
bacteria. Hold for a few minutes, and then blow your nose into a tissue.
*
**
**
**
*9. If you have a terrible toothache and cannot get to a dentist right
away,
put a capful of 3% peroxide into your mouth and hold it for ten minutes
several times a day. The pain will lessen greatly. *
**
*10. And of course, if you like a natural look to your hair, spray the
50/50
solution on your wet hair after a shower and comb it through. You will
not
have the peroxide-burnt blonde hair like the hair dye packages but more
natural highlights if your hair is a light brown, faddish, or dirty
blonde.
It also lightens gradually, so it's not a drastic change. *
**
*11. Put half a bottle of peroxide in your bath to help rid boils,
fungus,
or other skin infections. *
**
*12. You can also add a cup of peroxide instead of bleach to a load of
whites in your laundry to whiten them. If there is blood on clothing,
pour
it directly on the soiled spot. Let it sit for a minute, then rub it and
rinse with cold water. Repeat if necessary. *
**
*13. I use peroxide to clean my mirrors. There is no smearing, which is
why
I love it so much for this. *
**
**
**
*I could go on and on. It is a little brown bottle no home should be
without!  With prices of most necessities rising, I'm glad there's a way
to
save tons of money in such a simple, healthy manner! *
**
*This information really woke me up. I hope you gain something from it,
too.
Pass it on!        *

Nah, and I NEVER pass on those round robin letters for good luck, money, love, etc. if passed on in
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Oh, the memories......I can pass for Italian, but I am not Italian. I got my heart sm
broken in two in Rome, NY. I was so in love with this guy up there....and when his family found out I was not Italian he had to break it off with me! I was devastated. haha

Would LOVE to take a trip up there and drive through the Adirondacks, visiting family near Lake Champlain...I would love to take hubby there and the kids. Wow! Now I'm really missing the place!!! I think I'll try it this summer! Keep in touch ladies!
No, definitely not -- if this had been a woman - sm
asking you the same question would you have thought twice about it? He was a rep of the store asking if you found what you were looking for, since it happened to be a bra, I think he phrased it correctly, but then again he did not take into account a person who would take a question the wrong way. He has learned the hard way never to question a lady about her underwear that is for sure. You need to learn to let things roll off your back. If he had leered at you and said, hey lady you find a bra for those nice **** of yours, then yeah, that would be harrassment and not good customer service. Learn to chill some and not worry so much.
I know of a woman who actually did this
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what do you get for the woman who has everything?...sm

Spend some time together.


Give each little young lady a handmade card/voucher that she can cash in to spend time with you one-on-one, whether it be at the hair salon, lunch, walking in the park, just doing regular shopping stuff, going to a play or just sitting, talking, having a cup of tea and looking through family albums....It's the special time that'll be cherished. 


Oh, and 50-ish is not old.....I know 70 to 85-yo young ladies who can run circles around me with their enthusiasm, drive, ambition and joy for life.   Cat 


   


did you NOT see that 95 y/o woman who

graduated college last year?  She was all over the news, GOD BLESS HER!!  Had all her wits about her......just old looking is all....


Education doesn't stop until we die - so by all means 40+ is still young in that many change career directions many times in ones' life...



another woman
Does his name rhyme with Boo by any chance? This brought back memories from 16 years ago. Same situation. I found out I was not the only one and that he had been seeing someone else for years and when she and I "met", she told me he owed everybody money. I did get mine back by personal check in a very nice (what a joke) card, wishing me well. I loved him - couldn't deal with the other woman thing, so let her have him. Glad I did - I would have been miserable with him. Good Luck - watch your purse!!
wonder woman
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then you should definitely let the PTA woman have him
and after he's with her instead of you, make sure to send a thank you card
Do you believe what this woman says?

That an employee told her to use the MRI machine at the zoo?


When a 5-foot, 275-pound woman found out she had a tumor on her spine, she was told by her local hospital to go the zoo to have a MRI because a regular MRI machine could not hold her weight, myfoxkc.com reported.


Carolyn Ragan told the television station she discovered the tumor two years ago and, after the hospital told her she could not use their MRI machine, a medical assistant said he would help her find a solution.


“So he suggested the Kansas City Zoo,” Ragan said. “I thought, I know I’m big, but I’m not as big as an elephant. And my husband got mad.”


The University of Kansas Hospital would not comment on Ragan’s claim, but said its MRI department does not know of any animal MRI in the Kansas City area that would scan a human.


Ragan’s problem was two-fold: She was too heavy for the table and too wide to slide through the opening.


Medical Imaging in Kansas City North, which has both closed and open MRI machines can typically hold up to 440 pounds, but sometimes a person who weighs less can still be out of luck, according to an MRI technician.


“It depends on how they are built a lot of times and what part of their body we’re scanning,” said technician Sarah Abbott of Medical Imaging. “(The machine) can only be so open before the magnetic field dissipates into the room.”


Ragan, who ended up having two surgeries and some paralysis, said she finally found an open MRI machine that held her weight, but it was embarrassing and frustrating.


“They should have machines that fit most everybody,” she said.


A Woman Should Have... sm










BEST POEM EVER


A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ....

by Maya Angelou

enough money within her control to move out
and rent a place of her own,
even if she never wants to or needs to...
something perfect to wear if the employer,
or date of her dreams wants to see her in an hour...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ..


a youth she's content to leave behind....
a past juicy enough that she's looking forward to
retelling it in her old age....
a set of screwdrivers, a cordless drill, and a black lace bra...
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ne friend who always makes her laugh... and one who lets her cry...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE .......


a good piece of furniture not previously owned by anyone else in her family...
eight matching plates, wine glasses with stems,
and a recipe for a meal,
that will make her guests feel honored...



A WOMAN SHOULD HAVE ..


a feeling of control over her destiny...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...  


 
how to fall in love without losing herself...
how to quit a job,
break up with a lover,
and confront a friend without
ruining the friendship....


EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW....


when to try harder... and WHEN TO WALK AWAY...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


that she can't change the length of her calves,
the width of her hips, or the nature of her parents..
that her childhood may not have been perfect...but it's over...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


what she would and wouldn't do for love or more...
how to live alone... even if she doesn't like it...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW.. .


whom she can trust,
whom she can't,
and why she shouldn't take it personally....



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


where to go...
be it to her best friend's kitchen table..
or a charming Inn in the woods...
when her soul needs soothing...



EVERY WOMAN SHOULD KNOW...


What she can and can't accomplish in a day...
a month...and a year...


AND REMEMBER:

GIRL FRIENDS ARE LIKE STARS.

YOU DON'T ALWAYS SEE THEM,

BUT YOU ALWAYS KNOW THEY ARE THERE!!!!!!


 


A single woman
What you're feeling is perfectly normal. Please do not rush into a relationship with any man at this point. Enjoy this time and spend it getting to know your children better and just spending time with them. Also get to know yourself and feel comfortable with who you are - develop some hobbies and interests. If you've spent the last 2 decades in this kind of relationship, you haven't had much time to spend on yourself. Soak in a hot tub every night if you want to.

In a sense, you've just cut a huge wart off your foot and of course it's going to feel strange and unfamiliar. It was the wart that was strange, now things are normal. It just feels strange because you aren't used to it.

Hope some of this makes sense. If you think about it, I bet you are actually less lonely now than when he was there. Some of the loneliest people I know are in marriages and relationships. Some of the happiest and most joy-filled people I know are on their own.


I should have been a repair woman.

My kids were out of clothes.  Yes, I'm behind on laundry.  So I wash some stuff, toss it in the dryer and I hear something going "ping" and it won't turn on.  I just pulled it completely apart, put it back together and it's working.  Yeah me!  A screw had come out and fallen down inside of it.  I can't believe how full of lint the inside was too.    I do, however, have 6 extra screws that should be in there somewhere lol.


see. not every woman is out to steal your man--sm
it sounds like she is trying hard to make a life for herself and her kids. I don't think she is interested in your husband romantically at all. It is so hard for some people to trust any more, and that includes me, as I have had *friends* go after my man too, but I just did not get that impression from this person. Until someone proves otherwise, one should give them the benefit of the doubt before jumping to conclusions. So far, she has not done anything untoward. at least that is my impression.
Pretty Woman nm
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This woman owes no one anything regarding the name
I went to my brother's child funeral (my niece) the other day. Brother killed in an accident when this child was 6, she died at 39, raised by stepfather for most of those 30+ years. My maternal aunt and I at funeral and yet the stepfather got up and referred to the deceased as his daughter- my aunt did not like that as basically erased her father from her life but things like this happen- this person can and should name her child whatever she wants. If the relationship is that tedious with only a name, then she does not need those kind of people in her life. Simple.
you need to take responsibility for getting this woman
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Was watching until they put through this man/woman.. sm
who was supposed to be bellydancing. He/she was terrible and they put him through and got rid of some really good people. My daughters have taken dance over the last 10 years and I can honestly say that many 8-9 year olds can bellydance way better than that. They sent home tons of talent and put through some really untalented people. Also, why is it called America Has Talent and two of the judges are not American??
If you were going to nominate a woman for
who would it be?
Why does this woman offend you so?
What did she do to you? I understand that you obviously do not agree with her getting involved in her own daughter's life but it is her daughter - not yours. I think you are taking her situation way too personally for whatever reason.

The fact is, it is her daughter and she SHOULD protect her and do everything within her means to do so. She never said she was going to break the law. I see nothing wrong with her asking this dude to get tested - if anything, it will get him away from her daughter!!!
Oh honey, I am a woman...
just can do things on my own...have a large home too and still manage to have lots of time, a clean house and work 10 hour days. I can easily afford a housekeeper too but why when I am perfectly capable myself. DH gets to come home to a home cooked meal every night, a very clean home and a happy wife who does not complain! Not all men want simpering, helpless women.
A woman on a mission I am...

Ok, so when we were kids, my brothers would go to the barber.  They get their hair cut and he put this stuff on their hair that smelled so good.  Like a finishing cream or something.  I am trying to find some of this for my hubby and son for after their hair cuts (I am the barber of the family).  Does anyone have any idea what this could be?  I don't even know what to search for.  It wasn't gel, hairspray, or anything like that.  It wasn't stiff.  Just smelled really good.  Would be wonderful if you could help me find it or give me suggestions of what it could have been.


Thanks!


You sound like a man. I would think a woman would
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A woman just hit me in a store!
I was at the cash register paying for my things, and the lady behind me dropped a piece of paper. I picked it up and gave it to her. She said thanks, and I turned back to the cashier. A few seconds later, SLAM! she had hit me really hard in my shoulder! She obviously wasn't mentally "with it". Something is wrong, but she shouted, "I know you. Hi!" I said firmly, "You do not know me. Please do not hit me!" I didn't make a big deal out of it, because she obviously had something wrong with her. I thought she looked a little like she had Down Syndrome, with very widely spaced eyes and the typical look. But she did hit me hard and left a bruise. And I'm 200 pounds. When she hit me, she had enough power to push me a couple of steps away. I have to say, I was a little scared. She seemed to be alone. The manager came over to talk to her, and I just said that I was okay and left, so I don't know what happened after that.
I have a friend who is just like the woman you described.
I hate being at her house and limit my contact with her around her children. My children are grown and hers are 18 and 16 years old. As you would expect, her children's language is just like hers. The kids rudely interrupt us and bellow out obscenities. Just the other day, her son screamed at her, "I'm not in any f------ mood for your s###." Shocking enough all by itself, but he was shouting this at his mother, and she had no problem with it.

This sort of language is disrespectful, and the children learn to be disrespectful, as well. I'm close to ending our friendship over this. But, I have to say, we weren't very, very close to begin with.
Woman, I have no mercy on you

That is what she told Sharon when she was begging for her life and the life of her unborn son.  Then she and one of her buddies proceeded to stab Sharon 16 times and slaughtered all of her houseguests.  Then wrote words on the walls in Sharon's blood.  They also shot a teenager 4 times who was just leaving. Then the next night they (I don't think Atkins was involved in that this one though) went out again and killed 2 more people and wrote words on the walls with the victims blood again.   There were more killings also before that.


These people were worse than animals, killed for no reason whatsoever.   That "the devil made me do it" thing don't fly.  They knew right from wrong.  Linda Kasabian proved that by not following Manson's orders and sabataging his plans.  She was totally in love with Manson at the time too.   Atkins was originally sentenced death but somehow it was ruled unconstitutional and her sentence was reduced to life with parole.


woman as man of the house

We seem to have a lot of guys out there, with their ranks constantly expanding, whose only purpose in being in a relationship is to do as little as possible in exchange for a much as possible.  Their sense of entitlement is huge - they expect the woman to be breadwinner or equal earner, cook and housekeeper, social secretary, financial guru, babysitter, the list goes on forever.  In exchange they must be begged to do the simplest tasks like taking out the garbage or yardwork - often they just flat refuse to do anything at all and the woman ends up doing everything.  The couch potato guys get their way and end up doing nothing but being a housepet or overgrown child, and eventually the woman realizes these guys are bringing nothing, and I mean nothing!, to the relationship but mess, hassle and arguments.  She realizes she doesn't need him - and that's the way he wants it to stay.  These men engineer their own divorce, and deserve it, by refusing to be a partner in any sense of the word.


I am the opposite. My son met a woman--sm
with a 15-month old who I fell in love with the first time I saw her. She climed up in my lap all dirty, tangled hair down to her butt, smelling of old urine and for the past 17 years has not left my side. She has had a horrible life but I have chased the mother over three counties to get her-and then a year later my son's daughter-every weekend. They have spent every birthday, holiday, and summer with me for 17 years. The oldest turns 18 in Jan and is planning on leaving her mother to live with me. She has spent so many hours trying to find similarites between us, we both had blud eyes, both are left-handed, love to read and quilt that she has convinced herself she is my granddaughter. People often think we are mother/daughter and she never wants me to correct them. She has had to be the mother to her sister and has had to grow up fast, but she is the most wonderful child.

Open you heart--the step granddaughter will benefit but not as much as you will. Sounds like she needs all the love she can get.

We were talking last weekend as we were putting up the tree that neither girl can remember having any fun times with their mother and how all the birthday and holiday pictures are at my house and any memories they have are here. Rhiannon is always telling me how lucky she is to have me as her grandmother, little does she know I am the lucky one.
if this woman keeps subjecting sm
her child to abuse, she can be held for child abuse also. What part of that do you not understand? She is abusing her child if she doesn't get that child out. Obviously common sense doesn't work with her. She needs a little "tough talk". I do not have issues. Let me restate that. I have issues with those who ask for help and won't follow through and subject their kids to this. If she wants to stay, fine, but there is no excuse to subject a kid to this.