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I hear you. I feel so guilty...sm

Posted By: GLF on 2007-04-26
In Reply to: All the above are why my loving - Gabby

That I can't bring these cats inside. It's so much safer for cats to be indoors. I've read that the average lifespan of an outdoor cat is only 2 years, (because of cars, dogs, etc.) and I worry about them all the time.

I never planned to have cats, because I think they should be indoors, which I can't do because I'm so darn allergic to them, and because our dogs are indoors and are not at all cat friendly.

But then these 2 came along, and they're feral. So my choices were to either ignore them and let them continue to fend for themselves, call the shelter to come and trap them (but they wouldn't be put up for adoption because they're feral, they'd be put down right away)... or do what I did (trap, neuter, vaccinate, release) and take responsibility for their care. So that's what I did.

It's definitely not a perfect situation. We have considered making the cat house entirely enclosed so they stay in there. It is a pretty big area, but I don't know if that's a good idea or not.


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I feel so guilty!
I have 3 cats, 1 older and 2 younger and they have been out in the garage (the older one is brought in to spend the night in the washroom) since Monday and will have to stay there until next Monday because am having new tile put in my home. My heart just could break knowing those babies are so used to being in here with me and keeping me company. I am going to do something tonight that my DH would not agree with- but he is not here and I am. I am going to bring all 3 into the bedroom for awhile and put them on the bed and having a good loving session with them before it is out to the garage again. I hope they will understand.
I am so sad and feel guilty about my cat
My furgirl of 18 years died at my home about a couple of months ago. I do not know how to get over the feeling of guilt. She had a stroke several months ago, being blinded and deaf at that time but recovered from that. I tried all to help her , even spoon feeding to make sure she ate okay but was finally told by her doctor that her organs were failing. I knew the day before she died her end was coming because she only urinated 1 time. The next day I held her in my arms and she refused even water then and I knew her life was ending. What bothers me so much, even now, is that I did not hold her up until the time she died so she could die in my arms- I made her comfortable with a light blanket with her head supported on a little pillow but I am so guilty and sad. I don’t know how to get over this. What can I do? I loved her so much and now I feel like I let her down in her time of needing someone to be close. I held her for about 5 hours the first of that day but why did I not continue to hold her? I should have and now I am paying with loads of guilt.
Please don't feel guilty...
Your sweet furgirl knew how much you loved her, and you did everything possible to make her comfortable at the end. I believe that people sometimes wait until their loved ones leave the hospital before feeling free enough to let go. It may be possible that it was easier for her to pass on while she was not in your arms. Try to remember the good times and take solace in the fact that the two of you enjoyed years of love and companionship. My heart goes out to you!
Yes, you are right that we should not feel guilty sm
and that's the whole point of my original post. You have already gotten the point somewhere along the line and I am glad for you. For those of us who have not gotten the point yet, or are just now starting to get it, why can't you either be encouraging or not comment? As far as Oprah, I personally don't see her as being the same type of image as Martha Stewart or The View.
do not feel guilty
Do not feel guilty and do not second guess yourself. You know your daughter. And no, you are not over-reacting. If you feel there is a problem, there most likely is. I went through this same thing with one of my daughters. She had been a straight A student, triple-letter athlete, etc., etc., etc., and then bang....whole new kid. She couldn't wait to be out of our home. No one who hasn't been through this can fathom the gamut of emotion it involves. In the end, it was our responsibility as parents to do everything in our power to protect this child from herself. Yes, she hated us. She once went 3 full months without speaking to us (it was the most peaceful 3 months we had had in a long time!) but we started her in counseling and didn't back down. It took a very long time, longer than I care to think about, but finally started to see some changes in her. We discovered she suffers from a significant chemical imbalance that caused depression and once she agreed to start medications (she only agreed to prove us wrong), the change was amazing. We got our daughter back. She is now a successful professional with a family of her own. Point is, you need to seek professional help. She will resist but stick to your guns. If you do not seize every avenue available to you, you will continue to doubt yourself. My heart goes out to you as I know how difficult this is. I was lucky; for my family the counseling paid off. I now have a very close relationship with this daughter. I hope you find the same.
There is nothing to feel guilty about.
In a perfect world the child whose name was drawn would not already have a Wii, and perhaps it would even be on the top of his wish list.  But we don't live in a perfect world.  I'm sure the orthodontist who is awarding the prize would be just as happy to know that your child got something else that he really wanted in exchange for the Wii that he already had.  A prize is a prize is a prize.  I think you all are being silly for trying ot make her feel like she is doing something wrong. 
Too bad they don't feel guilty ENOUGH to keep themselves from
going into Tiffany's, etc and buying that garbage - cripes!!
Sorry for your loss,...don't feel guilty though (sm)
When I am sad about something, I have a tendency to blame myself - somehow I did something wrong, otherwise why would I feel so bad? I know logically that is not rational but in my pain I always find something I did "wrong." I sometimes think back to things I did in the past and I ask myself why I did what I did and why I did not do things differently. But occasionally when I have done that, I have gone back mentally and through through all of the circumstances and I realize that if given another chance, I would probably do things the same way again. I have a habit of second-guessing my past choices - as if today I am somehow a different person than I was yesterday. The truth is you were just as good a person during the time that your beloved pet's life was ending as you are now. There were probably reasons you did not hold her the entire time...you didn't know exactly when she would pass away, maybe you felt she would be more comfortable... you are good now and you were good then...as many other posters have said, you gave her a wonderful, loving life. Don't confuse your grief with guilt...you miss her, of course, but you did not do anything wrong. Take care
Kids have a way of making us feel guilty. SM
You could start a fund of giving your son money for doing things like helping with lawn work or cleaning or whatever. He could start a paper route, with you supplementing his income.

I'm just making suggestions. Again, don't feel badly. Agree with other poster about people using credit cards.
Please don't feel guilty! You sound like a loving fur mom!..I too
lost a cat this week, also about 18 years old. She was an outside cat who never came in but about 6 weeks ago she just walked in one day and never wanted to go back out, so I figured the end was near. I feel very guilty too, but I made her comfortable, stroked her, made sure she was comfortable. Hubby went out in the pouring rain/sleet to bury her under a cedar tree where our others are buried. When I told him how bad I felt about not being here when she died, he said she had a great life because of me and how much I cared for her. I am sure you were wonderful to her. Please don't feel so guilty! My gal, the day before she died, actually did go outside, it happended to be sunny for a bit, she laid down on the deck and enjoyed the warmth and caught the last bird of her life! For a cat, she went out on a good note!
You shouldn't feel guilty because (see message)
you can't be really sure that is what she would have wanted. When my cat died, many years ago, she went away to be by herself when she died. We had to look for her to find her. Some animals just prefer to be alone. You spent time with her before she died, and then you made her comfortable. Perhaps it was easier for her to "leave" if you weren't there with her. I am so sorry for your loss.
I'd turn him in and not blink an eye or feel guilty.
We are the ones who pay for this. Just like the handicapped spaces everywhere that have people who don't seem to have a physical disability. And don't bother giving me the same old "you can't see my disability, but I have one" story. I know, bad back, bad knees, whatever. If you can drive to Wal-Mart and push the cart maybe you could walk a couple of more feet in the parking lot. You all know who you are out there.
Exactly - it's taking the time that makes me feel guilty too sm
Solution they are saying is to go to bestlife.com and sign a contract with yourself and then Oprah has a bestlife challenge with diet and exercise and other tips and an online journal, etc. In the past when I have exercised regularly, I found that I felt like I had more time, because I had more energy to get things done. So I am trying to get back to that again.
I am feeling very depressed this Christmas season. I feel guilty because I
would rather it would be over.  I have no money to shop, and things in general are bad in my life.  I am trying very hard to focus on what matters this time of year and what it is about.  Anyone else having difficulty now?
Yes, guilt is my downfall. Now, I feel guilty because she has no life survival skills because I have
done everything for her...so now I blame myself about how she will survive because she has no idea what to do. I guess I didn't have anyone leading my way. I've been on my own since I was 16 years old and I made it okay.  She calls me for EVERYTHING..how do I do this.. how do I do that and I know now it's time just to let her fall because she'll never learn how to pick herself up if I keep doing it. That's the hardest teacher..falling on your face. She even said that she feels different because she doesn't know anything other kids her age know how to do.. That right there should have made me STOP.. I have not done her any favors..When I thought I was helping her, I was just making it worse and enabling. I'm done with it. Thanks for listening.
Wow! Sorry to hear. Hope you feel better. sm
Great you got to rest though! What goes around comes around, you'll get your New Year's fun another time I hope! :)
Thank you. That's how I feel also and I just needed to hear it from others.
nm
I do feel for you. You won't hear me giving you the 3rd degree. sm
I do have a dog house outside with 2 outdoor dogs because I have 3 little kids and can't have an indoor dog (one son with severe allergies). We own a lot of land (13 acres) fenced and cross-fenced. They don't want to come in. They are the happiest dogs you've ever seen (Shepherd, Corgi mixes). Anyways, I don't have any advice except to say that I don't know what I'd do in your situation. I run a very neat and clean house and don't want any dog hairs everywhere or a dog who chews, which I've seen.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

My mom raises miniature yorkies. She has dog strollers, the whole nine yards. That IS NOT for me.

I think people fail to realize that dogs are dogs. They are animals (I know this will start a hate thread), but seriously. You cannot allow a dog to rule your entire life. They are dogs. My mom hasn't visited any of her family in years because she can't leave her dogs at home or board ALL of them. To me, she is missing out on a lot of things because of these "animals."

Happy to hear you feel better...One thing though..sm
When it comes to federal income tax withheld from your daughter, I know for a fact that if the local welfare office or whoever is responsible for making sure she pays or they pay, doesn't send in a "flag" with their SS#'s to the IRS every 3 months or so, the IRS will NOT withhold any income tax refund from your daughter or SIL. My mother went through this with my sister-in-law. Fast forward, 26 years later, she is still in arrears to a tune of 10,000K. The only way any refund was w/h from her was when I called the IRS myself and gave them her SS# repeatedly, because they were not getting the info from the local courts....IRS guy said the courts are suppose to send the info with SS# regularly but they rarely do, so refunds are not withheld. Even now, in order for my mom to get child support that is due to her, WE have to find the trash (she is on her 4th marriage and moves all the time), prove she lives there or works there, then get the local judge here to send the proper papers to where she lives, to that judge, and then he will decide how to make her pay. I hope your daughter and SIL stay up to date on payments, or you will have to fight your way through the system and still never see a penny.
I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, i feel your pain nm
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Agreed! Hear, hear...amen, sister!
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Guilty Mom
Well, you've already said what my feelings are which is, I would snoop if I felt that I had a reason to and I've always told my children this. Privacy goes out the window if something is wrong. But, you admit you did it just out of nosiness - oh well, none of us are perfect and we get a little "crazy" sometimes when it comes to our children. Good for her (and you) that it just confirmed her maturity and that she's a good kid (with obviously good parents).

As far as her relationship with her dad, I would not talk to her about what you've read, but maybe try to finagle (spelling?) some time for them to be together to get a little closer. I can say at that age, I pretty much felt the same way about my father and couldn't wait also to get out of my house. Ended up getting married at 18 straight out of high school. BUT, as I've aged, I've become very close to my father and realize a lot of what I didn't like about him when I was younger was just him wanting us to behave and being worried about us kids. So, in other words, you may not be able to do anything now to enhance that relationship, but hopefully it will grow on its own. Can you talk to your husband about this?
Guilty pleasures
Mine too! I love Y&R and I have been watching since I was a teenager. I think Phyllis is great! I would like to see her back with Jack though.

I'm not sure Nick is dead either. I guess time will tell.
Guilty all the time - why?? (sm)
I constantly feel guilty. If I exercise, I feel guilty for taking the time to do that. If I don't I feel guilty because I didn't.  If I diet, I feel guilty for thinking too much about what I am going to eat and taking too much time for myself.  If I take a day off from work I feel guilty, but if I don't work and and spend the day with my family I feel guilty for that too.  What the heck is wrong with me?  I wake up in the middle of the night feeling guilty.  What is wrong with me??
OJ Found Guilty

Simpson Found Guilty on All Charges


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posted: 10 MINUTES AGOcomments: 1245filed under: Crime News, National NewsPrintShareText SizeAAALAS VEGAS (Oct. 3) --


Thirteen years to the day after being acquitted of killing his wife and her friend in Los Angeles, O.J. Simpson was found guilty of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room.


The 61-year-old former football star was convicted of all 12 counts late Friday after jurors deliberated for more than 13 hours. He released a heavy sigh as the charges were read and was immediately taken into custody.


I agree his is guilty as well, I just wonder
why all of the sudden she believes her sisters now.
I have been guilty of the same thing

The best thing to do is just make a list and stick to it.  Clothing used to be my biggest weakness so I try to avoid that area in the store since I have plenty of clothes.   At craft fairs or anything extra I get to do (rare occasion anymore) I usually just take cash only.  I went to an arts & craft fair 2 weeks ago and only took $50 cash.  When it was gone, I just went home. 


yes, i sure did andyou can't tell me he wasn't guilty. nm
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sounds to me he is guilty. maybe he is having an affair and sm
wants you to divorce him and that is his way of trying to get you to do so. I would leave the SOB. No one deserves that sort of verbal abuse. Just my 2 cents.
Well, I'm guilty of giving neighbors' dog
he does come over our fence, literally climbs over, and comes into our yard and then our house. He goes straight to the kitchen, waits for a treat and then goes out the front door and to his yard. He gets ignored a lot so I feel sorry for him. He's so cute.
I'm feeling guilty and ashamed

I have a confession to make.  Yesterday on an impulse I read my daughter's diary.  She's sixteen, and she and I have always had a good relationship. I can't justify what I did by saying I suspected something.  I was just curious, and knowing that she's in the beginnings of her first romance I was looking to see if there was anything - - romantic?  Shame on me!


As it is, I'm happy to know that with a few exceptions that were rather minor (details of conversations, etc) she pretty much has already told me just about everything she wrote about.  In a way, that makes me feel guiltier.  What the heck was I thinking, betraying her privacy like that?  It confirmed how much she cares about this boy - I knew that - said how much she hates her father and wants to get out of our house - knew that too, but not quite how much!  


Now I'm going to have to monitor what I say to her so I don't let on I know these details.  I want to talk to her about her relationship with her dad without letting on I know how bad she feels.  At the same time, I'm really, really happy to find out that she's as good a kid as I have always felt she is, and so open and honest with me. 


I guess I'll just have to chalk this up to experience and be glad I didn't come across anything I would have to act on like drugs or sexual activity or something. 


Feedback, anybody?


OJ book and trial, innocent or guilty?
I saw the message about OJ and the book about whether or not he actually did the crime. What I would like to know from the MTers discussing this, did any of you watch the trial from start to finish? The newspapers, television shows, etc. most all the time fabricated parts leaning towards his part in this crime. I saw it all from start to finish, every single day and after that made my own decision regarding the guilt or innocence, not by what I read in the papers or heard on the news. The most important piece of "evidence" supposedly was the glove issue. The trial showed a receipt from a store from accessories. Never ever did they match a scanned number, price, date bought or whatever with the glove buying, but then again I guess most of you watched all the trial?
He's guilty as sin and I cannot read his obituary in the news
nm
Michael Vick pleds GUILTY to
dogfighting charges and will be sentenced December 10th.  He is having a news conference at about 11:30 a.m. EST.  There are people that are supporting him.  How can anyone condone what he has done.  There were supporters at the court house in Virginia who were clapping and singing and saying that they LOVED HIM.  OMG.  He better get time in jail or I have lost all faith in the court system for CELEBS.  He did the crime now he must pay the time.  I do not care what color he is.  He did a horrible thing and should not get away with it. 
Another country heard from...guilty mothers
who think only material things make their little one happy, have to get affirmation and praise for every decision they make...your poor husbands!
Guilty! But I only work PT and do meet personal quota. Also spend too
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Do You Hear What I Hear and Little Drummer Boy
I love the holiday!
Hear, hear! I'm with you too, same boat. -nm
nm
Did not hear about the porn but did hear
there might be a conflict about her babies going home with her when they were able to be dismissed. You can hardly blame anyone for questioning how she will take care of them. From what I have seen, she hardly seems stable enough to do that.
I hear ya........

nm


Look - I know this is probably not what you want to hear, but
I speak from experience - and many advice experts will say the same thing - if a man is interested in you, he will ask YOU out. Just like if you go out with a man and at the end of the night you ask him to come into your home, and he doesn't - then he's not that into it. It doesn't matter what he has going on in his life, men make time for women they are interested in! They are never that busy that they cannot call you - that's just a lie. They make the time to talk for one minute because THEY ARE INTO YOU!! If you have to ask a man out, think about it - what was wrong with him?? WHy couldn't he approach you? He knows how to open his mouth and say "hey, I don't know if you're single or seeing someone, but I was wondering if you .... "

Don't ask him out. Let him pursue you. It's old fashioned, but hey, it still holds true.
I am so sorry to hear that. It does cause
actual physical pain to lose a special pet. I have wished I could cut my heart out to end it, or be PTS alongside my poor dog. What a shock to lose such a young cat. I am sorry.
sorry to hear that, don't know what to say...sm

Sorry to hear this happened to you, don't know what to say, but this has never happened to me, and both my CPA and the other person, a corporate estate tax person, say that I'm legal and nobody has come after me or notified me that I am in the wrong.... 



I hear what you are saying
Personally, the wrinkles start showing in my face if I am too thin. I need a little weight on my to look good...unfortunately, it is all on my hips and glutes...LOL
You are what you eat, so I hear
and if a person wants to be a supersized so be it. Got off Cokes on my own after marrying my hubby, used to drink loads of those and I never feel like I am not living by the way I eat because I also love sweets and if I want I have them. I just don't care for any of my foods supersized, be it a drink or a hamburger, just too much to consume for me and the amount of calories you get plus the fact of it just not being that healthy for you. I would put my delicious food up against any fast (fat) food place any ole day. I just like taste with my food.
So sorry to hear that....
Our cat is getting older now, and I hope she lives forever, but....   I'm so sorry for your loss!  It is truly a loss to lose a much-loved pet!  Take care...  my thoughts are with you today....
I am so sorry to hear you are going through this.
But with her compression fractures, and probably the COPD also, there was no way the MDs could have coded her. Her bones (and probably lungs) wouldn't take it. At least that's what they told my grandfather about my grandmother when she had leukemia. He found out the doctors made her DNR without talking to him, and he found out after she passed away.
Now hear this.....

Just called the courts and on my way there now to swear out warrant for arrest of the person writing the bad check. Talk with you later.


I hear ya

This situation sounds a little iffy to me, too. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....


Sorry to hear this
about your new tile floors honey bear.  That is too bad.  It is very frustrating!
I want to hear...
.. the end of this story.. The AUDACITY is appalling...