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absolutely no physical withdrawal from quitting pot

Posted By: sm on 2007-03-02
In Reply to: Has anyone here ever gone through - sm.

There is absolutely no physical withdrawal from stopping smoking pot, it is a psychological dependency (as all habits begin that way).  Perhaps he indulges in other things that you are not recognizing..other drugs.....which would produce symptoms of withdrawal from them such as you describe.


lots have been there, done that - no symptoms whatsoever except perhaps a little agitated because they  wanted it....I have witnessed many who stopped/quit......from 15 to 65......


 




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Never heard of withdrawal symptoms from pot.

If you think pot is harmless, you need to educate yourself. They call it "dope" for a reason.

Sounds like you two deserve each other. The fact that you said "nor did I take his addiction seriously," is mind boggling.

What have your learned during your time as an MT????
withdrawal.......see what happens? just the thought! NM
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I know...I've been in withdrawal!! Can't wait either! : ) nm
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Unfortunately, sex is more than the physical aspect...
it's mental, too, and it's something a lot of guys don't get, including my DH, but he tries.  I absolutely know where you're coming from. 
A GAL does not have physical custody -

in the best interest of the child - a lawyer who represents the child.  The GAL can make recommendations that this or that person be best suited in raising the child, or make a recommendation to a court that evaluations need to be done, etc.  MOST GAL's do a splendid job in looking out for the child's best interest, but there are those whose priorities are more in line with being in favor with a particular party (a judge, a person of influence, etc.).  I've seen great GALs and not so great GALs.  Time will tell what will happen in this case.


Or withdrawal from other drugs, wouldn't doubt it.
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Maybe not physical force but they did not have a choice. Besides that, they are not sm
legally married in most cases so that would constitute statutory rape. How many teenage girls do you know who want to be married to stinky old men?
I'm now doing fairly physical labor
for my job, and my body likes it better than being locked in a chair 40+ hours a week. I did have shoulder pain for a couple of months that worried me, but that's gone now. Sitting in a chair all those hours is not good for you - we weren't designed for it. It took me quite a while to figure out exactly where my worst pain was, and it turned out to be coming from right next to one of my ischial tuberosities, probably from an inflammed bursa irritating the sciatic nerve. But everybody's pressure point could be different.

It's one thing if you work in an office and have other duties in the mix, even just delivering reports or whatever, but it's not natural to do only one thing like they make factory workers do. Currently the worst pain I have is from my long commute, SITTING in the car.
I would not call unless you see physical evidence.
Most of the posters have already pointed out that you could be causing a lot more damage by reporting.

The boy was obviously given a choice of his punishment and chose the "stick." You don't know what that means exactly.

If the kid seems happy enough, leave it alone. You could completely ruin his life if you turn his dad in for something that turns out to be absolutely nothing.
quitting smoking
You are correct to be afraid. Quitting smoking is excruciatingly painful. You have to re-train your brain to do every single daily activity without smoking. And the cravings never go away.

Skullcap, Gingseng, and Valerian are extremely useful, so you don't have to suffer if you don't want to.

The sore throat alone from the first week of quitting will scare you to death.

You will need to eat and exercise to get the energy you get from cigarettes, and it will take awhile to learn how to take better care of yourself.

Why is it worth it? You aren't a slave anymore, you can go anywhere, colors you see are more intense, all foods taste different, smells are different and more intense, (and sex is more intense also).

You can quit anything if you can stand the pain. Don't be a wimp, you are worth it.
BWT....I am planning on quitting......sm
in January and a couple of other posters and I are forming a support group.  I promise we would never get tired of you!  Won't you join us?  Maybe the 7th time is a charm!!!! 
Quitting Smoking Again
I was wondering if any of you have any tips for quitting smoking without gaining weight. That is my biggest fear as I am already overweight. Thanks in advance!
quitting smoking
I gained 10 pounds I never lost, but not more than that. I used to skip meals when I smoked so I think that is self-explanatory.

Apples and fruit for snacks and quick energy.

I bought an espresso machine, but the mocha grandes I was drinking made my eyes vibrate....not kidding.

Siberian Gingseng to remove fogged brain, depression, and fatigue.

Skullcap for mild irritation.

Skullcap combined with Valerian for psychotic irritation.

Gas-X to combate the effects of constant gum chewing.

Long walks, deep breathing and YOGA. Yoga is amazing....

Smoking either boosts you up or calms you down. Figure out which it is and you can substitute for that need without eating.
Second day of quitting cold turkey...

Today is my second day of quitting smoking cold turkey. I have some patches, but that is it. I am determined I will quit this time though, without a doubt.


This morning has been really hard not having a smoke with my coffee. My nerves are just on edge.


Any words of encouragement would be greatly appreciated!!!


So you're quitting smoking?
Since nicotine is a drug, and you are giving up a habit that involves deep breathing, it actually makes perfect sense if you are starting to have anxiety. I'll bet if you took up exercising like yoga or pilates or some sort of martial arts, you'd get a similar calming effect.
Klonopin is a wonderful drug but a benzodiazepam. Be aware of withdrawal.
I was placed on Klonopin during a stressful year when sleep was elusive, leaving me dragging all day.

It worked amazingly. But, there came a time I had to get off of it. I thought I could just stop taking it. Not so. The drug leaving my system placed me in a state that was far worse than the anxiety I took it for. For three months, I had ringing in my ears, was in an agitated state that I likened to listening to fingernails being scraped across a chaulkboard and then having that sound magnified a thousand times.

I watched a show that featured drug addicts in a methadone clinic and one person interviewed said that the worst drug to get off of was "bennies." Worse than heroin and methadone, and I believe him. I also came to realize there are many people hooked on these powerful drugs simply because the withdrawal is so very unpleasant to go through.

I suggest taking it periodically, never more than two weeks in a row. I only wish my doctor would have said that I would become physically addicted to it to the point that medical supervision would be required to stop taking it. Instead, they appeared to think I had developed "drug-seeking behavior" because of my anxious calls to the office when I was experiencing the symptoms.
Dyspareunia: Even when the pain can be reproduced during a physical examination,
the possible role of psychological factors in either causing or maintaining the pain must be acknowledged and dealt with in treatment.
Just wondering, considering MJ's physical problems is a cardiologist really the one he needed? sm
I just happened to think about it and figured in controlling pain like back pain wouldn't one use an orthopedist, neurologist or pain specialist, but also thought a cardiologist should know too much of what drug would cause a heart attack.  Just a thought that maybe he was out of his realm??  What a sad story!  I just have this feeling the doctor gave him too much medicine that caused the heart attack.
get him a prescription for Chantix. It will give him a 44% better chance of quitting. nm
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I agree. Facing reality 24/7 is the only side effect of quitting pot
Must be something more. Get him to a physician so he doesn't cave in. Then, I'd reevaluate your relationship as you may not be as in love with him as you think.
ABSOLUTELY . . .
If children find out on their own, they think they have figured out the great mystery of life, if someone tells them (especially an adult), they are taking away a precious, magical childhood time. My daughter believed up until she was 11 . . . and now that she and my almost 11-year-old son have figured it out, they think THEY have uncovered a great mystery!!! They think it's funny, actually. My 7-year-old still believes and he will until he is at least 10, if I have anything to say about it. That's like talking to them about faith in my opinion. That's the parents' responsibility
Absolutely..
My stepmother had a TAH almost 20 years ago and has had hot flashes ever since then. Sorry, that's probably bad news!
Absolutely don't do it

Same story here. Sit through sales pitch, very very hard sell, push push push. Then, instead of the "jeweled timepiece" which was the LEAST expensive prize, I got a cheap Timex that didn't even run.


Run run run away from this!!!!!


absolutely I would have said something
What if these kids are in his care a lot?

What if he does this behind closed doors (very likely if he struck out at the little one in public) when mommy isn't around?

What if he isn't their dad (or is) and he's abusing them but she doesn't know it?

As a mom, I would definitely want to know if someone struck my kid. Especially if I was a single mom (which I have been) and this guy was a boyfriend who was responsible for caring for my kids while I was at work or otherwise occupied. I would never leave them with him again, I could tell you that for certain.

Doesn't really matter what their personal situation is. The fact is, the kid was struck for no good reason and the jerk should have been called on it.

If he made a stink or if she made a stink, SO WHAT, follow them and get a license plate number then turn them in!
You-re absolutely right
A few months ago I was at a class I take at the YMCA and one woman was telling us how her daughter-in-law had a miscarriage. She was saying how hard it was and finally I spoke up and said I too had miscarried. After I said that, at least 4 other women (out of a group of maybe 10-12) admitted they too had miscarried. I was stunned. I had no idea how many of us there were. Knowing I wasn't alone might have helped when I was going through it.

On the other hand, if anything good came of it, I think it made me a better mother. I cherished every moment of my children's lives and took none of it for granted.

Absolutely!
Men like that feed off of control. My ex did the same thing. Just pull your boots up! It'll be okay. Talk to your family (parents? siblings?), see a lawyer (don't tell your husband), and look at getting into counseling. I've been exactly where you are and I know what you're feeling. It's awful, but the sooner you get free, the better you'll feel and the better off your children will be.

Did I read that he stays off for days without contacting you?
Absolutely...sm

Any and all prayers appreciated.  Thank you so much.


Sorry you went through the same thing.  It certainly isn't good at all. 


Absolutely NOT!....

You'd better give that to me and I'll take care of it for you. 


(I am absolutely staaaving!)


This is absolutely
And surprisingly cute! Thanks for sharing...BTW, did you wear the ones you were given? 
Absolutely
You have the right idea!!  Where I live, Hard Rock Cafe had their 10th year anniversay Saturday night.  My husband and I and a couple of friends (who are about 5 years younger than I am) decided to go.  Rich music history here in my neck of the woods.  When we walked in, the young girl standing at the hostess desk looked at us and said "Just to make sure you know it is our 10th anniversay and we will be having loud rock music tonight in case you want to eat dinner somewhere else". I asked her why she told me that because she didn't tell the couple that was in front of us. She said "well, I thought at your age you might not like it."  I couldn't believe it.  That's why we were there, to hear the bands that were playing.
Absolutely right!
The world needs more kind people like yourself and you are 100% correct about the animal cruelty!
Absolutely!
I met my best friend in 1975 when we worked together.  I tell people I've had her longer than I had my husband (28 years).  We have seen each other through second marriages, second divorces, the entire deal.  Talk daily sometimes 2-3 times.  And yes sometimes "a friend sticketh closer than a brother", in this case anyway! 
Absolutely!
How could you do any less for a member of your family? You're not crazy at all; you're a sensitive, caring human being who puts love before money. Take care of yourself; everything will work out.
i have absolutely no
rear end. It's flat as a pancake. :=(
Absolutely

I have a family member with Parkinson's disease.  He has the adolescent onset version so he's only now 39 and on disability.  He cannot sit all day and work at the job he used to have at an investment firm.  He has been in a car accident due to blanking out on medication.  The only thing the doctors had left to tell him was take this medication which should work for about 10 years so you can work but after that you'll probably be debilitated.  Well having 2 small children at the time, the answer was simple, be able to raise my family or be able to work.  So he went on disability.  Now he is able to active occasionally but his hands are real shaky and so is his voice.  Whenever he has to go to the disability office, he is treated with contempt and disbelief until he hikes his 1 foot thick medical record file on their desk!


I also know of someone who was on disability that actually worked for the MT company I used to work for (this is hearsay mind you).  Evidently she was using her husband's social security number to earn a paycheck!  Whenever I meet someone or hear of someone cheating the system, I want them to meet my family member and explain to them why they think they are entitled to take money out of his pockets and his children's pockets.  Makes me so mad!


Absolutely not. nm
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ABSOLUTELY!!
I posted above about my Canadian boyfriend. The taxes to pay for their universal/provincial healthcare are outrageous!!
Absolutely.
As an MT I cannot stand transcribing a social history that states "smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day but denies the use of alcohol or drugs" and then has a positive alcohol or marij. screen. Why is one of the 3 considered acceptable in society and the others are not? To me, they are all essentially at the same level. They all have addictive properties and the potential for longterm complications, bad decisions, etc. If marij. has the potential of doing some good for anyone then I think it should be legalized.

Another good point you bring up is the cost of housing the so called "criminals" who have use it recreationally and could have just as easily used recreational alcohol and been involved in a drunk driving incident. It's all about education and setting limits. Sure there have to be guidelines but I don't think all should be punished because of the few exceptions.
You are absolutely right, he

could have done any of a number of things to cause A PIT BULL dog to attack and kill him.   He could have yelled at the TV.  He could have stepped on one of their feet.  He could have fallen down.  We don't know what happened, but the point is that no pet should ever be capable of killing a human with whom it shares a home.  Other breeds recognize their master and other humans in their living space and take their rightful place.  Most good, smart companion dogs would have recognized this man's special frailty and give him a wider berth.  The instinct of these dogs to attack overcomes them and they can't turn off that instinct.   This breed should never be kept as pets. 


You should visit the web site I posted and click on the tab about pit bull owners.  I find it very interesting that you have used the same phrases that most owners use to defend the breed. 


Can you name one desirable character trait that a pit bull has that you cannot find in any other dog?  


Absolutely!!!

I just met the love of my life 1-1/2 years ago, and I have a daughter in college, so I don't believe happiness is rendered elusive after a certain age. 


After my man and I got together in what is indeed a story for "the grandkids," we discovered we had been at the same time/same place on multiple previous occasions, almost like fate kept dropping us into one another's paths until we finally interconnected.  I had always held out and refused to settle, and I've ended up with the most wonderful man who treats me better than I had ever imagined.  And, most importantly, someone who can make me laugh no matter what's going on around us. 


I used to be a total skeptic about "love" and all that it entailed; however, once I met "the one," it totally changed my perception of love and just how life-changing and wonderful love can be.  My friends say *glow* since I've been with him, and even his mother has seen a huge change in him since we got together.  As corny as it sounds, I feel "complete" for the first time in my life. 


Don't give up hope...Use your head to get yourself out of a bad situation, and then use your heart to follow your dreams.  We ALL deserve happiness in life, and I'm a firm believer that fate will eventually have its way with us, and we end up right where we're intended to be. 


You go, girl...grab that golden ring and don't let go!!!



You are absolutely right.......... sm
I found myself in a similar situation several years ago. The man, whom I loved very much and still do, decided that it was not within him to have a relationship with me because of religious beliefs. I do still love him very much and always will but I have come to understand that we are to never be together and I have moved on with my life. Hardest thing I've ever done, but I feel much healthier for it. My suggestion to the woman in the original story is that if she does love this man, then she must respect his decision and the sooner she does it, the quicker she will heal from the pain.
Absolutely not!
If it happened even just once, I'd be out of there in a flash.
absolutely and I think he is too! sm

My husband and I have been married for 13-1/2 years and were best friends for 4 years leading up to that.  The single that I love most about him is that if I'm having a bad day, I can tell him that.  I can say I need a hug cuz I'm having a really bad day and he's there for me.  He listens if I want to talk about it and if not, he just holds me. 


As for the groping thing, we always do that.  Sometimes it turns into something more and sometimes we just end up giggling.  We have 3 kids, so we've had our ups and downs.  They range in age from 6 to 11.  I think the biggest thing for us is that we're friends, first and foremost.  I love him because he makes it easy for me to smile. 


Absolutely
Better to agree to disagree than start a fight which is all too prevalent on the board. Have fun watching tonight. My daughter and I are always screaming at the TV when it's on. I definitely agree that most of the women were off last night. The girl you're talking about, I think you and I are thinking of the same one. That second guy I don't remember at all from the auditions.
Absolutely
Funny, when kids were spanked at home, they behaved at school. Now it's a crime to spank your child and the schools are filled with rowdy uncontrollable children who they now control by medicating them. Funny how no one had ADHD 40 years ago.

Absolutely...
I just hate that it always seems to be the fruit that I have to give up. When apples were 6 bucks a bag last year, I left them right in that store. A couple of weeks ago, the week right after V-day, strawberries were 4 bucks a pint, Seriously? The day before they had been 2 for 5. They stayed in the store. Grapes are expensive always it seems but my local grocer packages them smaller so I'm not paying as much, not getting as much but still it gives my kids a good snack for at least a day. S A D!
I have had this and it can be absolutely
terrifying. One time I felt like someone was sitting on the bed next to me and I was the only one home. I have had it happen 3 or 4 times.
I have had this and it can be absolutely
terrifying. One time I felt like someone was sitting on the bed next to me and I was the only one home. I have had it happen 3 or 4 times. You feel totally helpless.
You are absolutely right
From the start, this whole argument has been skewed, saying Bush banned stem cell research. Not exactly. It was not banned, it was NOT FUNDED by government money. What has actually been lifted is the funding issue, which simply means there is another way for government to p*ss away our money. (Like they haven't found enough ways already!)

Absolutely.
I moved about a year after high school. Had to get away from my dad who told me I belonged to him until I got married and I had to do what he told me. Well, since I had no desire to get married yet I took off and moved 1000 miles away. Best thing I ever did for myself. Had a blast! I look back on those days between high school and marriage as the best learning experience and the most fun I ever had.