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house cats do NOT belong outside...

Posted By: when I let cats out decades ago, they....sm on 2007-04-30
In Reply to: If she doesn't care about the fact that her dog killed your 2 cats - ER MT

they got hit by a car or disappeared.....or brought a bird (dead) to my pillow...*lol* -


nothing really good happens when you let house cats become outdoor cats......


I blame the OP as much as the SIL....take responsibility and don't let your (future) cats out of doors EVER.....especially since you KNOW the situation with the dogs of hers.


2+2=4 




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I belong to several horse "boards"...(sm)

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Did you check the registratio you think maybe it did not belong to her? borrowed to sm
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Meant keep their noses "out" of where it don't belong
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You are going off on ME because I was looking for some suggestions to get HER to understand the destruction her pet has caused.

If it was anyone else but family, I would have shot the dog without hesitation.

As a matter of fact, I have used the pellet gun to pop him in the rear several times. That only keeps him away for a few days at a time.

You can say what you want but if I just went out and shot her dog, that WOULD be like killing her kid to her.

My husband's sister is more important than the cats. We loved our cats but my kids have one aunt. Only one.


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Like I said watch your kids around the chow as the older they get the nastier and more protective they get and are much more aggresive than a lot of other dogs. Even if it were my sister, if her dog did that and she would not accept responsibility for the dog's actions -- would not accept it.  My animals are members of my family (I have no kids just step) and my dog is part chow but if she had ever shown agressive behavior in her past 16+ years or had killed a couple of cats, I would have had her put down and hated doing it but would have felt it was necessary.   Again, if another dog did that to one of my two cats -- either family member or not -- something would be done especially if it happens more than once.   Just my thinking -- again you were asking for suggestions just don't like the obvious ones.   Cannot treat this situation nice and sweet like ice cream and cake as it is ugly.


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no cats here, but....sm

wow, down to only 5 lbs.  maybe she (female?) just doesn't feel good and wants to be held and comforted, kind of like your kids when they don't feel good and just want their mommy. 


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I have to keep my cats out from under the bed, too - sm
but for a different reason... I discovered one of them was peeing under there. Not to mention it was a handy place to run whenever she sensed a major coming-out coming soon! I use the space under the bed for storage anyway, so simply blocked it all off with all my junk: Duffel bags, skate bags, sleeping bags, boxes, large purses I never use, etc. Now neither cat can get under the bed at all.

For your problem, you could try a couple things. One is to get a 'platform' bed. Then the cat can't get to the box springs. (You can even do away with the box spring altogether - don't need one with a platform bed.) If you don't want a platform bed, you could get creative with some pieces of wood, like maybe 1-inch or less thick x whatever width will close the gap, and make a border that goes around the base of the bed. If you use dust-ruffles, they'd cover it up. If not, you could paint, wallpaper, or (?) the wood and make a pretty faux base for the bed that's cat-proof.

OR... you could go to Ikea or some other store that sells cool, space-saving stuff, and get those drawers/boxes/containers, etc. made for using space under the bed. You could create a lot of storage space under there, and make it impossible for the cat to get to the mattress.



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xx
I used gravy for cats...sm
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uh.....keep your cats inside where
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I'm afraid I don't know cats...sm

Nearly as well as I know dogs, so I can't answer your question about whether it's normal or not (the hardened nipples) but it doesn't sound normal.  It can't hurt to call the vet and ask. 


I would also suggest that you make an appt. (if you haven't already) to get her spayed ASAP, because she can and very likely will go into heat again right away since it's that time of year (some people call the warmer months 'kitten season.') 


I happened to find this website yesterday, while looking for something else:    http://marvistavet.com/html/body_giving_birth_to_kittens.html


Here is a quote from it:


>> Nursing the litter generally suppresses the return to cycling but the average female cat is back in heat about a month after delivery of the litter. If she has access to a male cat, she will likely become pregnant before she is finished weaning the current litter. >> 


Wow, before she's even finished weaning the current litter?  Amazing (and a little shocking?!) 


If you go to your regular vet, you can probably get her in to be spayed pretty quickly, but it will cost more than a low-cost spay/neuter clinic.  (Might want to get her teeth cleaned too if she needs it, since she'll be under anesthetic anyway, and the anesthesia is usually the biggest part of the cost.) 


If you go to a low-cost spay/neuter clinic it will cost less, but you might not be able to get an appt for 2-3 weeks or more.  If she's in heat again by then, they will either not do the surgery, or (more likely) they will charge a little bit more for it because it makes the surgery a little more complicated (increased risk of bleeding when they're in heat). 


I hope she's okay as far as her nipples.  Can you let us know/give an update? 


 


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