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Posted By: the logical progression of this behaviour. nm on 2007-04-30
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Shelties or Australian Sheep Dogs are great family dogs. rm
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What attack?

No one was attacking anyone's culture, that I could see.  The OP was venting and I quite frankly agree with most of what's said on here.


I'm as liberal and open minded as anyone out there, but I have to tell you that it horked me off to no end when the housekeepers in the hotels I worked for couldn't understand me and what I was asking them to do for a guest because none of them spoke English.  I had potential customers come up to the front desk to try to get a room and then have the nerve to get pissy with me when I didn't speak Spanish.  Hello.  I may be in New Mexico, but it's still the freaking United States.


I have worked for ESL doctors who were very aware that they had an accent and went to the trouble to spell words for me that they prounced differently.  I loved those doctors.  I have also worked for other ESLs who sped through it like many domestic docs do, had the phone or the recorder on the other end of the desk, and quite frankly didn't give a rat's butt if what was on the other end understood them or not.  Those doctors got back exactly what they gave me - garbage.


I have to say, my sister told me that Slumdog Millionaire was a great movie.  I have no desire to see it..................call me prejudiced, but I don't want to hear the accents if I don't have to.


These dogs appear to be puppy mill producing dogs.
The two females, which I thought were older, appear to be just worn out/depleted. Their teeth are those of a 3-5 year old dog. So, I do believe they have had litters each cycle and are suffering from malnourishment.

Funny thing, yesterday, they were covered with mud (it rained and they were digging) and this morning, I look out and see they have all been grooming as they are clean.

Called Love of Animals who has committed to spaying/neutering the animals, giving them their shots, flea repellant and showing them at Pets Mart on Sundays. In a few months, there will be a regional dog show at the local college where on average 150 dogs are adopted out and she asked that I keep them until then.
Which I will...And a girl saw the ad for the Lost Pets and is looking for a replacement for her Shi Tzu she lost a year ago and will come by tomorrow morning.
Am I having an anxiety attack?
Okay, this has happened a few times now lately.  I do have a lot of stress, but I don't think it is more than anyone else.  I fell like I can't sit still, very antsy (sm), my shoulders and neck feel like they are being pulled/stretched.  Sitting in this chair I have to keep rocking.  It's the can't sit still that is driving me nuts.  The more I try to stop it the worse it gets.  Try transcribing with this.  What can I do to get past it?  I'm was trying to go to sleep and couldn't lie still in the bed.  If I truly focus on something I can get a few minutes of peace, but it doesn't last.  Can anyone help?
No attack on a zoo keeper
She didn't attack the keeper a year ago - she chewed on his arm when he was feeding her, in other words, being a tiger. She probably thought the arm was part of the food he was giving her. They changed their feeding technique after that incident.
A panic attack
can present as a heart attack, with the same initial symptoms of shortness of breath, chest pain, clammy and sweaty, irregular or rapid heart rate, etc. The first thing done at the hospital would be stat blood work and an EKG.  Depending upon what these showed, then an MRI with or without contrast would be done.  A mandatory 24 hour stay is required for all chest pain admissions. I've been working in a cardiopulmonary dept. as a respiratory care practitioner for 6 years and have seen this many many times.  So if it makes you feel any better, he could be telling the truth about this. 
Heart Attack!

Let's say it's 6.15pm and you're driving home (alone of course) after an unusually hard day on the job.


You're really tired, and frustrated……


YOU ARE REALLY STRESSED AND UPSET ….


Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw.


You are only five miles from the hospital nearest your home.


Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be able to make it that far


WHAT TO DO??


YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN CPR, BUT THE GUY THAT CONDUCTED THE COURSE DID NOT TELL YOU HOW TO PERFORM IT ON YOURSELF !!!


HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE?


SINCE MANY PEOPLE ARE ALONE WHEN THEY SUFFER A HEART ATTACK, WITHOUT HELP, THE PERSON WHOSE HEART IS BEATING IMPROPERLY AND WHO BEGINS TO FEEL FAINT, HAS ONLY ABOUT 10 SECONDS LEFT BEFORE LOSING CONSCIOUS


WHAT TO DO??
 
 


ANSWER:


DO NOT PANIC, BUT START COUGHING REPEATEDLY AND VERY VIGOROUSLY.


A DEEP BREATH SHOULD BE TAKEN BEFORE EACH COUGH, THE COUGH MUST BE DEEP AND PROLONGED, AS WHEN PRODUCING SPUTUM FROM DEEP INSIDE THE CHEST.


A BREATH AND A COUGH MUST BE REPEATED ABOUT EVERY TWO SECONDS WITHOUT LET-UP UNTIL HELP ARRIVES, OR UNTIL THE HEART IS FELT TO BE BEATING NORMALLY AGAIN.


DEEP BREATHS GET OXYGEN INTO THE LUNGS AND COUGHING MOVEMENTS SQUEEZE THE HEART AND KEEP THE BLOOD CIRCULATING. THE SQUEEZING PRESSURE ON THE HEART ALSO HELPS IT REGAIN NORMAL RHYTHM. IN THIS WAY, HEART ATTACK VICTIMS CAN GET TO A HOSPITAL


ARTICLE PUBLISHED ON N.º 240 OF JOURNAL OF GENERAL HOSPITAL ROCHESTER


TELL AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THIS.


IT COULD SAVE THEIR LIVES !!! DON'T EVER THINK THAT YOU ARE NOT PRONE TO HEART ATTACK AS YOUR AGE IS LESS THAN 25 OR 30. NOWADAYS DUE TO THE CHANGE IN THE


LIFE STYLE, HEARTATTACK IS FOUND AMONG PEOPLE OF ALL AGE GROUPS.


Pitbull Attack!?!?
This is a newspaper clipping from an attack that happened locally. When you read it you think to yourself "Oh my gosh! another pitbull attack" and it sounds like it is the dog's fault right? It is pretty convincing. THIS is what the public reads. What you DON'T KNOW is that the owner of this dog was training this dog to be mean, yes even with him having kids he was training the dog to be mean. And you ask how do I know this? It's because I was at the vet's office when they brought this dog in & this wasn't the first time they had a problem with this owner training dogs to be mean, and this was out of the vet's mouth himself. So because of this owner's training that he wouldn't admit to doing sadly there was a dog attack as a result and the dog had to be put down, but yet everybody will go on thinking "oh another vicious pitbull".
Still have your GB? Sis thought she was having a heart attack
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Is it fair to attack her parenting?
I thought Christians weren't supposed to judge. Is it because she *let* her daughter make her own decision to become atheist? I can't stand hypocrisy. It's what starts wars.
Sorry, actually "when paparazzi attack" . . nm
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You say pits were bred to attack...sm
They were. But they were bred to attack dogs not humans. One thing the unscrupulous people who bred these dogs did right was breed them to not be human aggresssive. Because when they were in the ring with the dogs they couldn't be worried about the dogs attacking them. So they wanted a dog that wasn't aggressive towards humans. I have done research and read this to be true. That doesn't mean all pits are not human aggressive. There may be some that are but it wasn't bred into them.
I had a 30-hour gallbladder attack, and
it was rough. I'd just been diagnosed with stones and then had the attack. I had to wait a few days before my scheduled surgery.

My surgeon told me his story. His abdominal pain started and 3 hours later, he was checked and his GB was already gangrenous. What if yours is?
Don't bash or attack me for that, but wasn't
AIDS a consequence of this 'lifestyle' or am I missing here something?
I would fake a heart attack before I put myself into that situation. Don't let me get sm
started on in-laws. I can't stand mine either. Ohh, it's bad. Hey, at least you have 1 who is a nuisance - I have 3! All DH's sisters...We are going to a friends (REAL friends) for Thanksgiving this year. My DH finally smartened up to their nonsense and really don't want to be around them either, thankfully. Good luck. My heart goes out to you because I know how you feel. There will be many on this board who will tell you to "go, put a smile on your face," and obviously they've never been where you and I have been. Good luck in whatever you do and know that you are NOT alone. I can't stand evil, hateful, jealous, condescending, rude people one bit. My life is too precious to deal with mess like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIL was having heart attack "pain" that turned out to be
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sounds like a menopause sneak attack
Your call on how to handle it, but it sounds hormonally motivated to me....the crying inappropriately about a child you are not raising kind of gives it away.
A heart attack and cardiac arrest are 2 ....sm
different things. Cardiac arrest simply means the heart stops. It can be caused by many things. Overdosing, mixing drugs, hearrt attack, etc. I have read a lot about Elvis' death. He had cardiac arrest BUT it was because of an overdose. The autopsy results today on MJ said his heart was okay as far as a heart condition or clogged arteries, etc. Something made his heart stop beating and sent him into cardiac arrest. I used to think cardiac arrest was the same thing as a heart attack. Upon reading into it further it is not. A heart attack could cause cardiac arrest I guess. In MJ's case, according to the medical examiner, he did not have a heart attack, per se. So now they will look into toxicology to look for drugs, etc. in his system that could have caused the cardiac arrest. You know, I read just today, Demerol when mixed with other drugs it shouldn't be mixed with can cause cardiac arrest. When they obtained a search warrant a few years back for Neverland Ranch looking for evidence for the molestation charges, they found syringes and Demerol then. I am willing to bet too many drugs sent him into cardiac arrest. :)
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
I have my dogs on it, and yes all my past dogs but 2 have died -sm
from cancer. But I had 2 schipperkes on Frontline for years and one died at 13 from cancer, the other at 16 just from old age/kidney failure. My last husky was 8 when she died from cancer, but I have had one die at 2 (unknown causes), and another at 9.5 from liver cancer (she actually made a nice recovery but succumbed about 6 months later), but huskies don't tend to live past 10 unfortunately. I have had purebreeds and mutts, and with or w/o Frontline/Advantage they have all died from cancer. I suppose it is possible that it causes it, but if you live long enough, cancer will most likely be your cause of death, anything and everything causes cancer anymore. I hate fleas and ticks and we have lots of them, so the dogs get the Frontline except in the cold winter months. They are 6 and 3 and both doing quite well.
And dogs don't bite right? Love my dogs but I
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my dogs are basically indoor dogs sm
but have a doggie door to go in and out as they please. Sometimes our Jack Russell gets excited and barks inside the house. My DH grabs is belt and snaps it and the loud noise shuts her up right away. I am not trying to frighten our dog, but many times just saying knock it off doesn't work.
Just heard, Michael Jackson had heart attack?
NM
Where dogs came from (sm)
A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has provided the answer to 'Where do pets come from?'

Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'

And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.'

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.
And it was a good animal.
And God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.
And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'

And God said, ' I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.'

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.

And they were comforted.

And God was pleased.

And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'

And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings.

And Adam and Eve learned humility.

And they were greatly improved.

And God was pleased

And Dog was happy.


And Cat didn't give a hoot one way or the other.
dogs
I love that - this year, my niece's huge yellow Lab grabbed a pie off the dessert table. Needless to say, nephew put the dog outside. We all thought it was funny - niece did not!
dogs
What breed are your dogs? The darker one looks like she has Boxer markings, but I have never seen one like the blond. Reminds me of a G.S. Beautiful dogs, no matter what they are!!
Oh and he's not alone. He has 2 other dogs with him.
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Outside dogs (sm)
Outside we have a Boykin Spaniel (you can get these sometimes from rescue centers, Google if interested) and we have a mixed breed - Basenji and probably lab. Both have plenty of fur but not too much and love to be outdoors.
hot dogs....
kosher and nonkosher to cover all your bases.

I only like ketchup but you know there are those that want everything, so ketchup, mustard, mayo(yuck), relish, onions, chili?

hot dogs and brats...cover all your bases.....same on toppings...EVERYTHING!

If you have the space, fries are great when it's cooler weather.

Can/bottled drinks probably the best best. Less space, more drink for the buck anyway.


dogs

Uggg.  I feel for you.  At least the dog isn't being abused but I understand your frustration.


BTW you get the little icon thingies when you click "post reply to this message".  They should be right underneath the message box and just click on the ones you want.  Don't click "quick reply" because then they don't pop up. 


dogs
as a child, we had a rat terrior, irish setter and german shepherd - and daddy always had beagles.

as an adult, we have had a german shepherd, beagle, toy fox terrior, cocker spaniel, collie, border collie and right now we have a corgi and a chocolate lab.
Dogs
Since I was a little kid, Dad has always had dogs.  I remember we had a black lab, a brittney spaniel, a toy poodle (wretched dog), a German short-hair, and 2 mutts.  He and Mom now have another black lab.  My sheltie, Casey, just died this summer.  Now I have 4 cats.  The last one (a calico kitten) got dropped off (we live on a farm and it happens all the time!) the week after my dog died and just suckered me in. 
I have two dogs
They love me and are all over me every chance they get. Most dogs love me. The dog next door will look at my kitchen window and if she sees me, she will wag her tail and bark until I come out and pet her.

I am horribly afraid of German Shepherds. I got bit near my eye by one. My BIL has 2 of these dogs and they can tell I don't like them. But they just avoid me.

Now my friend who lives about a mile from me has a small dog and that dog hates me with a passion. It gets so upset and snarly when it even hears my van. I refuse to go in her house until that thing is caged. Am I bad person? I don't think so. Funny thing, I drive past her house to pick my girls up from school. They have a couch in front of a big window and every day when it is time for me to go by, that dog gets up on the couch and when I drive by it freaks.
I have 3 dogs
My newest addition is a dauchshound puppy.  I got her back in March (or maybe April - can't remember).  Anyway, she is  now 9 months old and all puppy.  She is relentless with my other 2 dogs, especially my little Maltese who is 7 years old.  Just runs around her, nipping at her tail, and racing away.  I know she's playing but it's NOT a game to my little white furball.  And she doesn't quit!  So, when you have had this situation, how do you stop it?  How do I get this puppy to understand that she needs to stop this behavior?    Other then this annoying habit of hers, she's a wonderful, funny, loving little girl!
Dogs!!
do you have a picture of yours? My dogs are the sweetest things, but they are DEFINITELY barkers if they hear anything outside and I agree with you, people can break in, but if they hear those dogs barkin, they are PROBABLY gonna turn right around and go somewhere else!!!
dogs
Boston terriors are great with kids and a great family dog.
Are the dogs okay if they don't see each other?

Years ago when I lived in Detroit and we had chain link fences, there was a nylon type of material that you could get to weave in and out of the chain links in the fence.  Sort of like the stuff that the old style folding outdoor chairs were made of.  It gave you privacy in terms of not being able to see on the other side, but you could still hear everything.  Would the dogs still go nuts if they could hear and smell each other, but not see each other?


The nylon in the fence is old school and not necessarily pretty, but it might work.


I have 2 dogs........... sm
and my Chow, Butch, will not let "Old Yeller" eat. He chases him off. Butch is an older dog and rather grumpy to Old Yeller, so my son has started bringing Old Yeller inside the utility room so he can get a decent meal. I don't keep food out at all times because my dogs are outside dogs, but if you have a self-feeder or keep food out all the time, sounds like the distance between the bowls is a good idea.
We also take the dogs with us sometimes - sm
depends on where we are going and what we are doing. We do a lot of camping and boating, so this one place we go to and rent a cabin allows animals so we do take them there sometimes. Usually it is just easier to leave them home, plus downsized our truck from a Suburban to a Trailblazer so unless we put everything in the boat, there is no room in the car/truck for the dogs, lab and extra-large husky. (or we only take the lab, but I feel bad when we do that!)
I am doing all I can for the dogs....sm
I am using my gas to go back and forth to their house to make sure the dogs are eating and get to go out, etc. I love dogs but I have 2 inside to care for, 1 out in a fenced in yard that I out of the goodness of my heart because I am a succer for dogs rescued and I put her in my back fenced in yard and take care of her. Then I have my husbands beagles I take care of while he is gone out of town working. I have approximately 13 dogs to care for on a daily basis. Only 3 of them are mine. I think I am a pretty nice person to take the responsibility of cleaning the beagles pens everyday and feeding them and giving them attention. FIve of them belong to my husband and five belong to a friend of his. I do all this for all these dogs because I love them. With caring for so many dogs already I think it is kind of rude of them to even ask me to take there 2 dogs too and take care of them. When they asked I did show reluctance and said I dont know. Then finally I said I guess. I think they should board their dogs at the vets or pay a sitter, etc. I have 2 dogs in the house. I have never tried to pawn my dogs off on other people. If I knew someone genuinely did not mind it would be different but they had to see the hesitancy I had to begin with. They do this all the time. They are frequently asking for somone to keep their dogs. Well about a year ago I told them I would no longer be able to keep their 2 dogs because I have 2 in the house and 2 more is too many inside. So then they started getting her brother and his wife to keep them. I guess they got tired of it and stopped keeping them cause then they started boarding them. Well that costs money so they are back to asking me. Well I will not keep them anymore for 2 reasons.
1. The dogs are not well behaved dogs. They act like wild animals in the house.
2. One of them is not properly house trained and will pee in the floor or poop.
3. I have 2 dogs already and 4 in the house is too much.

As for my dog not being neutered he is in his own house. I didn't ask them to bring their dogs over here and my husband specifically asked is she in heat. My female is spayed. If they are going to be leaving the dog frequently they need to have her spayed so they don't have this problem. As for me I will not keep them anymore even if she was spayed simply because the dogs are like wild animals.
Great dogs...sm
The little weiners are one of the best dogs.  Great personalities.  The only thing negative is when puppies they chew on everything!  We had just remodeling our house when we got a puppy.  I lost a new comforter and a specially made quilt in one room, two new pillows in another and some chewed up table legs and rocker.  She also ate her bed!  They do outgrow this though. Unfortunately, we lost "Shelly" to a hit and run while my son was in the hospital.  I do plan to get another one some day.
No hot dogs either! Nope.
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All about dogs and aspirin
Aspirin has the same problems in dogs that it has in people. It can cause gastrointestinal upsets and ulcers if the GI signs are ignored. It can cause renal failure if overdosed. It causes an increase in clotting time. This usually isn't a serious side effect but it does occur. Despite these shortcomings it has a lot of beneficial effects and it is inexpensive. The currently recommended dosage of aspirin varies a little from publication to publication but it is between 5 and 15mg/lb every 12 hours. Since there is a range I usually pick the middle of it and go for about 10mg/lb every 12 hours. This works well and seems to be pretty safe. That works out to an aspirin tablet per 32 pounds of body weight twice a day. I have to admit that I rarely advise giving more than 2 aspirin twice a day despite the fact that some big dogs could obviously take more based on the per pound calculation.
Seizures in dogs. sm
It really varies.  My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures.  They were terrible.  They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours.  I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life.  The vet said some dogs respond, others do not.  As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us.  Good luck.
I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm
animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.
dogs are better than people in most
instances. I have 3 and would never cage or kennel them. They are like my children and live where ever they choose to in the house. They have a specific place in the back yard for their "business" and have not had any accidents in the house because my husband and I have trained them properly. They are my best friends.
RATHER SHOP WITH DOGS

I am one of those st**pid women with little dogs and they are better company than someone like you, I am sure. They go where we go including nice hotels where they are welcome.  No one has ever complained.  They are clean and groomed, don't bark, and are gentle and loving.  Stores cater to me because I spend money there.  Are you?  Or, are you just walking around looking?  Maybe they don't cater to you because of your not so nice comments to their good customers.


Edited by Moderator for content. 


I would rather shop with dogs
than screaming kids!
dogs are domesticated

mammals.  snakes are reptiles.  I would not include the last in your series of comparing.


This trip has gone to the dogs! (nm)
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I can't say that's what dogs are suppose to do......
but they do tend to pack up when rambling around. We awoke about dawn one morning with a horrible sound and realized it was several dogs on a cat. We could tell the cat had a tail and our cats are bobtails, with the exception of our very old guy. We panicked and ran outside, thinking he may have gotten out the night before, even though he seldom ever goes out anymore. The dogs took off running and that poor cat was lucky to be alive. He was so disoriented and was in shock. I realized it was the neighbor's cat and called them. Unbelievably, the vet said he seemed okay and he is back out sitting in the driveway again. But people who let their dogs out at night to ramble so animal control can't get to them really ticks me off. Dogs, even nice ones, can get very mean when running in a pack.