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Posted By: sadie on 2008-12-22
In Reply to: I find that those who belittle others on message boards - ortho mom

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such anger

Your attitude toward people posting their opinions (which you asked for by posting here)is less than mature and more hostile than anything.

The original post came across as very bitter so you really should not be surprised by the responses.

Take the whine, hold the venom.
ANGER
Do everything you can to achieve YOUR dream and do not enable this deadbeat any more by helping her --- she has already shown that she will back stab you any chance she gets!!!
the underlying read-between-the-lines message of the insurance lobbyist's message was (sm)
to, yes, appeal the denied claim.  However, she lobbies for the insurance companies.  She comes across sounding like she's on the patient's side but in reality she is on the side of the insurance company.  The insurance company gets to deny whatever claims they want right off the bat.  That leaves the SICK patient (who needs the coverage NOW when they are sick) to have to go through the appeals process.  That could take quite a while.  Imagine a cancer patient being denied some form of treatment that is going to help them.  They now have to go through the appeals process (or pay out of pocket) in order for that treatment to be covered.  In the MEANTIME their cancer is progressing.  From the point of view of the insurance company, if they drag it out long enough they don't have to pay for it at all.  That same insurance lobbyist was on 20/20 a little while back and basically came right out and said that the insurance companies COULDN'T AFFORD to pay for coverage for sick people.  She's not on the patient's side.
do not let him anger you with this comment
he feels this way because you make more money than him, and after that comment, I would calmly and confidently remind him of that whenever you need to, maybe daily. Also, sit his dumb___ down and make him type one sentence of a hard provider, then calmly and confidently talk down to him and tell him he would never be able to do your job. Calm and confident. Do not ever again let him make you feel that way.
The heat of anger...
Some people just get so angry that they say what comes to the top of their head at the time, true or not. Others lose their ability to empathise in anger. Either of those, I can deal with (so long as it stays verbal only), and that's what DD experiences when she's "losing it". As I said, she has some pretty serious PTSD issues to deal with, so we may or may not put up with it if they weren't there. They are, so I don't know the other side of the coin. We can also joke around with things that might hurt feelings or be embarrasing, so long as they are not done in an attempt to hurt those feelings (sometimes the truth DOES hurt). Even with her issues, we do not tolerate being cruel and hurtful just to be cruel and hurtful or anything physical beyond slamming doors, and there is a numerical limit to how many, and if the pictures rattle, it's too hard. We also have a hard and fast rule that all people are allowed to "respond in kind" because none of us are superhuman, especially when angry.

Personally, I think the world was a better place when we weren't so concerned about hurting somebody's feelings - back when we could hold a normal and sometimes emotional conversation about differing viewpoints. Of course, that was back when people were responsible for their own feelings instead of making everybody else responsible for them.
Your anger is definitely justified.

I would also be hurt that someone you do so much for would treat you like that.  Unfortunately, the other posters are right:  No point in being angry because she obviously wouldn't get it.  I know that's easier said than done.  I would pursue the dream house.  I doubt they could get it anyway; they sound like losers.  If they can't drive to pick up their kids, how do they get to work?


As for helping out with their kids, I'd say sure if you have $5 for gas before you pick them up.  If they can't afford $5 towards your gas, they can't afford that house and it's their problem to transport their kids, not yours.  If they can afford it, put it in your new house fund, whether it be this dream house or another one!


Keep us posted -- would love to know if you get the house, and if not, let us know if she doesn't (see I told you I'd feel the same way).  Cuz the only thing that would make me feel better about not getting it, would be that she didn't get it either!!


He very obviously has some anger issues s/m
and a restraining order would be appropriate.  For all the phone calls, there is a special code you can put in after someone calls you, for harrassment calls.  You would have to call your local phone company to find out.  Every time he calls, you dial that code and the phone company traces the call.  They will not release the information to you, but only to the police.  This would prove stalking.  I was getting some prank calls and they would block their number and this is what the phone company said to do and if it didn't stop, they would turn it in for "appropriate action."  I would do it on the home phone and cell phone.  I would also start taking pictures whenever he is in the driveway with a camera that date/time stamps the pictures.  Best of luck to you.
While I can understand your anger...
it is personal responsibility to ask questions if you don't understand something. Maybe she should have had a family member go with her to her doctor appointments if she had such trouble understanding her doctor. I do hope she has someone with her now that goes along. I do wish your friend well.
You should search for the cause of your anger. It may be deeper
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Wow! Such anger at differing sides of opinions!--sm
I don't want to change the subject here, but personally, I do not appreciate the cigarette smokers out there either, at malls, at restaurants, or even adjoinging apartments where I live and throwing their cigarette butts *in my space*, and having to smell that sickening smell coming in my patio door while they smoke, but there is little I can do to stop them. I just have to tolerate it, as it is their choice to want to die of lung cancer, etc. TOLERANCE is the word, I suppose, for the rights of others and we all should respect that. Personally, I wouldn't care if an animal were allowed inside a store. I love animals, too, and they do not cause cancer and induce second hand smoke into my space. How is an animal inflicting on anyone elses rights? I do not understand such anger and vehemence at this subject. My goodness!
Sounds like an anger control problem
to me as well as not being tolerate of other people.  Have dealt with both.  Would pull him aside and explain to him again he was out of line - a guest in your home should be treated like a guest and he should keep his opinion to himself and voice only when in private with you and daughter... it was not like anything major... friend's parents are probably afraid that something major might happen and he would really blow up!  Just tell your hubby to relax! 
My days are filled with happiness, not anger
and do not dwell on things that happened 13 years ago like some. We were on here talking about 1 thing and when you interject like you did, then the whole subject opened up again. I am sorta you are a confused person. Take a break- get out of the house, smell the roses, lead a pleasant life.
Is my anger justified? Opinions welcomed

Here's the story:  My ex-sorta-sister-in-law shares a child with my brother.  They both have DUIs and neither one of them can drive.  They only call me when they need help getting their child (who is the same age as mine and attends the same school) picked up after school and delivered to either one of them. 


I own a home in the city, a pretty bad neighborhood, and I happened upon this magnificent house very near her house, in the correct school district.  This house is on a dead-end dirt road surrounded only by trees and nature.  Truly the perfect house for me. 


So, here's what happened.  She needed me to pick her up and then go pick up her child after school.  On the way of returning them home, I said to her, "Oh, Sue, let me show you my dream home."  I drive her past it, saying how I so want this house and I'm going to make it happen.  She says, "Wow, that would be perfect for me and my family" (she has three other kids, having had this child with my brother while having an affair outside her marriage). 


Well, sure enough, at the open house on Sunday, there she was with her four kids and her her toothless husband -- making plans for who gets which room.  I told her I was less than pleased that she was trying to snatch my dream, when her husband stated, "Whoever gets to the bank first gets it." 


My feeling is that she was out of line.  There are thousands of houses for sale in this town and I had displayed extreme interest in this one.  Sure, it's no one's house until the financing is in order, but I feel like she stepped on my toes.  Now, when she calls me tonight asking to deliver her child again, I really feel like I'm out fo favors for this woman.  She obviously has no regard for me.  Am I right to be so miffed?   


I wanted to get some opinions about something I did in anger regarding a family issue.

Okay, let me just give a little background first.  My husband has bipolar disorder as did his mother.  His mother disappeared in 1999 and is presumed dead.  He has never gotten over that.  My husband is also an alcoholic.  Over this past year, he fell off the wagon and his mental health has deteriorated.  In May, he tried to overdose on Ambien and was hospitalized for week in the VA Mental Health Unit.  This past Monday, he drank himself into oblivion and slit his wrists, severe enough that he required stitches.  He is now spending at least two weeks in psychiatric facility outside the VA system (because the government does not take care of our veterans, but don't get me started!).  He does not remember cutting himself.


We have two children and as you can imagine this was all very upsetting for them.  I called my father-in-law the day that all that happened to ask him to help me with his son.  I left a lengthy voicemail saying I was trying to protect his grandkids and take of his son and that he barely has any contact with his son since he remarried.  I said that his son was still his son and needed his help.  My FIL never even bothered to call me back nor did he call my husband (I left the number for the facility on my message).  He didn't even call Christmas Day!


The thing is my FIL and his wife are very self-righteous Christians except that they only play at being Christian for appearance sake.  When someone really, REALLY needs them, they only offer prayer.  My husband has a brother who is a convicted child molester serving a 20 year sentence in prison for molesting his own daughter.  My FIL and his wife have made a huge show of ministering to the child molester.  They visit him regularly.  They fill his prison account up with money so he can buy a TV and a typewriter to have in his cell.  He was up for parole this past year and they spent thousands of dollars on an attorney and thousands of hours making phone calls and writing letters on his behalf to get him out on parole.  They tell everyone they know how they have sacrificed and ministered to this son.  And he is born again now and all will be wonderful when he is released.


By my husband, his other son, never hears from his dad.  His father never visits.  My kids get gifts sent to them on their birthdays and at Christmas, but he rarely talks to them or sees them. 


Suffice it to say, there is A LOT of background info.  Last night, after I lied to my husband about his father knowing he was in the hospital (I said his father didn't know because my husband was wondering why his father hadn't called) I became very, VERY angry.  So I retrieved email addresses of friends and family my FIL and his wife from old forwarded emails that I had saved.  And then I wrote a very long, very detailed email about my FIL and his wife, about my BIL and his crimes, and then I ended it with an excerpt of scripture and a paragraph saying we are called to love our children unconditionally as our Heavenly Father loves us and we should never turn our backs on any of our children.


I then sent this email.  After I sent it, I started to maybe think I shouldn't have done it.  When I'm angry, I tend to let go without thinking.  So what do you guys think?  Was I right or wrong?  And if I shouldn't have sent the email, should I now send a followup email explaining I was angry and apologize or should I just leave it alone and figure the damage is already done?


Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
Main board, gab board, company, etc, just like here,
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naw - that was the old board that did that, aka the 'other' board!
why was it here and not on the Politics board anyway?
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Wow! First of all have to give you compliments on stating your opinion as I figure you knew you would get nailed.  I am also one that is a firm believer of kids have the ability to learn, sometimes through tough love and sometimes through every day simple life.  Although I would disagree with you about the "coat incident" I still can relate to you on trying to teach kids to take care of your things, etc.  I love my kids dearly, but I know at any moment I could be taken from this earth and I want them to be as prepared as they can be at 8 and 9.  I don't expect perfection, but when they do "screw up" I make sure they definitely know it (and remember it).  I think most people now do not appreciate children the way we do.  They are very intelligent if you give them the opporunity to be. They deserve respect just as adults do (when they earn it.... just like adults).  We have to teach them to be adults and it has to start somewhere.  Again, I don't completely agree with you, but overall I understand what you are saying.  Please ignore any misspelling in my post... I am using my husband's keyboard, which is "stiff as a board!)
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I believe homosexuality is a sin, but I also believe that sexual preferences should be personal and private.  I would not refuse to shop at a store because a clerk was gay, but frankly, that is something that I shouldn't even know about a stranger.  A person's sexual behavior should be totally private. 


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I paid my balance off in full, received a finance charge statement of about $42. I called the credit card, and said I do not understand - I paid the balance in full, what is this charge for. Act like you need them to help you understand. They adjusted my account and took that finance charge off and said I will receive a statement of the adjustment and my balance is now 0.

It really all depends on how you handle it and in what way you speak to them. Try it that way and see if they will adjust it off.

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I just had my ovary removed due to a cyst and surgery went well, I did well postop and was relieved that it was over. However, just found out that the pathology report showed carcinoma and now I have to have a total hysterectomy and staging workup. Anyone been through this that can offer some comfort in what to expect? Thanks.
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Thank you for your suggestions. At least you give me suggestions other than telling me to seek therapy or bariatric surgery, which I would never consider anyway. I get defensive when I feel attacked for my opinions, thus the *anger* in my previous posts. I DID read your post thoroughly and I did note that you used to have a weight problem, as well. Anon upset me, and I guess I took it out on you. I apologize.

I will put in to use some of your suggestions, but just so you know, my one meal a day does not include snacking, either. I am busy working most of the day, have a lot to do, and the time just slips away before I realize I am hungry, which is generally around 3 in the afternoon. I may have a cup of coffee or tea in the morning, and sometimes water, but that is all. Some will find fault with that, as well, I am sure, but that's the truth. Again, thanks for your input. At least you are more pleasant about it all.
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Your symptoms sound similar to carpal tunnel, but it may be something else, too. If I may suggest seeing a neurologist? It sounds more like a nerve problem to me and it does not necessarily have to be in your hands or wrists. EMG nerve conduction studies on your hands may be negative, but I have done dictations from doctors who have patients with carpal tunnel with false EMGs and the docs call them false positives, meaning the patient actually has carpal tunnel, but the studies were not definitive for that. As the other poster suggested, it may also be neck related. Just get a second opinion from a different doctor, and be insistent on what YOU want checked. Some doctors are resistant to patient requests, so you have to stand up for yourself. good luck.
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When my 17 year old calico passed away a few months ago, I was with her, as well as my 20 y/o son, and it was very hard for us both to watch. My son couldn't stop crying...she was part of his entire life. We still have the 16 year old male with us, Oscar, who misses her very much. They always stayed in close proximity to one another...even though they still gave each other glaring looks at mealtime. He just hangs onto us all the time and it's hard to work because he insist on laying on my desk, in my lap, knocking everything off. He has never done this before. She always laid at my feet and talked to me and he laid up high. It's sad because he can't understand what's happened. She was his long-time partner.
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I would be careful...I am facing court for just this right now, due to old debt that I started accruing, due to being quite desperate and broke, after my bankruptcy was filed. I can file again but probably won't and don't want to, but still have to deal with the courts, this week actually. can't wait. bankruptcy is not the end of the world. you can get a credit card again and you can work on your credit. It stays on your credit report for ten years. how long will it take you to pay off that debt???
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He obviously wanted to be with her and you cannot fault him for that, I guess. It is never easy when someone in the family takes their own lives and those left behind never truly understand why or how that person was feeling inside. It is very hard, and I feel your pain. Cry, let it out, and then take God's hand. He will get you through it somehow. There will be a brighter day. They are together now. Maybe that will help some. God bless you and your family. {{{hugs}}}
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you only have to look into your heart to know what is right and what is wrong. I am not going to argue religion with you. I have my beliefs and you have yours, or disbeliefs in your case, and I am not going to argue with you about who is right and who is wrong. Time will tell that, in the end. and no one said anything about someone coming into your room on your deathbed and preaching to you, personally. It sounds like you are so opposed to it because you may actually be wrong about it more so than you just do not believe. Good luck to you.
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Think of a younger family member.  Well everyone thought I was nuts to take my almost 18 year old nephew with me to San Francisco as I could not do the "night life" but we had a wonderful time.  never walked so much in my life.  We have always gotten along but he is so easy to travel with and appreciative of it.  Went to a Giants game, did the Fisherman's Wharf almost everyday.  Got lost.  Took wrong buses and it was so nice being with someone that never got upset, enjoyed the little things and went with the flow.  We talk about it all the time.   I gave him so much money every day which was out budget for meals and "fun things" and he saw how the money went and if we did not spend much for breakfast it left that much more for dinner or something "extra".  He had to figure out what the tips were, etc.  It was great -- I did not have to handle money at all, left it all up to him.  He read the maps and got us around with buses, etc.   It was also nice that I did not have to worry about someone drinking too much and ruining the next day which is what my ex did more times than not.  Saw everything down there.  There is why I am thinking of taking him (now 19) and his 17 year old brother to Boston with me.   So think of taking a younger family member that will enjoy it with you if you do want to share some special time with them.   There are a lot of great teenagers out there that do like to spend time with adults.  
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Hey, this happened to us just about a month ago. My hubby needed his ASAP!! I called the Records place in Kansas (where he was born) and they were willing to overnight it to me. Now, the total cost including the certificate was 36 dollars and we didn't get it until after 5 p.m. (could have paid more to get it before noon) on the 2nd day (ordered it on Tues, got here on Thurs), but I ordered it after 4 p.m. too, so you could probably get it faster. good luck!!!
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I don't mean this to sound rude or harsh, but I would tell them to start saving up now for moving expenses in October. If they have the next four months to save, they could probably find another place to live and pay for security deposits and moving transportation, etc. This is not a good financial situation, it sounds like, and I really do not foresee acquiring a loan in time to purchase this home, not to mention them not being able to meet the payments if they do secure a loan. I would tell them to prepare for the inevitable now, so they are burdened with financial problems when the time arises, and it most likely will. To keep them from moving in with you, this would be the best route for all involved. It is not your responsibility to solve their problems. Good luck to you.
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My friend just went through the same thing but because she didn't want to be alone, they stayed together until recently.  He was having an affair and the other lady divorced her husband which is when he decided he was not going to stay married to her.  I guess I'm saying this because I have seen what my friend has gone through with the other lady and if your husband feels that way, he might also find someone with the same interests.  It is better to separate/divorce before an affair than during/after, as in the case with my friend.  Good luck! 
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If you look at the end of the subject, before you click on it and it says NM at the end, that means there's no message inside. I hope that helps and didn't confuse you more.
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Have you tried PetShed.com or other out of the country suppliers? I get mine for half the price. I also have several inside cats and this is much cheaper, even with shipping. Same pharmaceutical company making it, same med as in the US, just cheaper, because big pharma aren't buying the other countries.
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I too have an old cat, nearly 17. She has moved into my closet and spends time between my closet and my husband's closet. Odd behavior. She mews very loudly all the time and I don't think she sees well. I believe if the cat wanted to go out, I would let him. He might want to die and you "find" him afterwards rather than watch him die. Sorry about your cat. My Sam is not far behind I am afraid.

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I am looking for Tabletops Gallery dinnerware, pattern is Winterland.  Kohl's has this dinnerware 80% off, and I love the pattern, but they had no plates.  They have cereal bowls, coffee mugs, and serving bowls, and that's all.  I'm mainly interested in the dinner plates and salad plates.  If anyone knows where I might find this dinnerware, please let me know.  I appreciate it very much!! 
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Thank you for your reply....this is the kind of input that I was looking for without being bashed in the process....thank you....
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You need to talk to him as wife to husband, leaving the other people out of it. I mean completely, because if you mention them, he will get defensive.


Just talk to him about not being as close to him as you would like. Ask if there is something he would like to talk to you about. Let him talk. (Yes, I know, men are great talkers!). Try being calm. Good luck, because I wouldn't be, but try. Say you would like to make plans to do things as a couple. Say you might like to include other friends, if he would like, but don't mention that other couple. Make it all sound like it is between the two of you and only the two of you. Try to be very loving. If fact, I would go out of my way to show him how much you care about him.


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Can you email me and maybe can discuss a little more on the issues you and I both are having. Thanks!
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How do I do that exactly?
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I understand what you are saying.  I am happy that we are all able to enjoy ourselves, but it is a bit hard to see a thread or two that get stuck in between.  You can always E-mail MTStars Administration and maybe they will make a separate board for games, or a Gab Board 2, that way everyone will get appropriate response to their threads and still allow a place for fun.


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Our Terms of Service are available at mtstars.com (look to the left).


Also, I would like to make you aware that as Moderators we are able to see IP addresses.  I can see that you are the same person who is continuing this argument.  You are also the same person who said something extremely crude to the Moderators approximately 2 weeks ago on the Medquist board...a place where you frequently create problems. 


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I will address these posts and then the discussion will finish.


1.  Yes, we are able to see IP addresses, so we do know exactly who is continuing arguments -- I was referring to the person located in Mt. Laurel, NJ.


2.  There is more than 1 Moderator for this site.  As far as which Moderator deletes/edits/locks which post, I cannot keep track of this information.  If you are following the site TOS, there should be no problem with your post.


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The other moderator is correct, there are 4 of us. We are not always aware of what has gone on with threads. From what I can see you did post the msg below, but it was not you who responded with the crude comments. That would be the same poster who WAS continuing the argument on the previous thread.

I do apologize for the accusations, but please understand we err too. We get just as worked up when people start fighting and writing rude remarks.

I am not familiar with previous experiences with you, so I will not comment on those.

I will say, though, that the moderator did explain not to comment on closed threads. There is a reason they get closed, and opening that door back up won't fix anything. Since the moderator explained it and this thread was still started, it's very easy to assume that you are trying to start an argument. If you aren't, that's wonderful. We don't like the fighting anymore than the next person, and we certainly don't like to ban anyone. We would much rather lock or delete posts and give everyone a chance to cool down. If time goes by and one starts posting the same things, we have to assume they are starting fights.

If you have any questions, feel free to email me.


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