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And how about that AGE DISCRIMINATION! Only hire

Posted By: 'ages 18-52'. - nm on 2008-02-16
In Reply to: I was so shocked! - mary

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Sorry meant discrimination and reverse-discrimination. My typing got ahead of my brain! nm
sorry for the typo but my heart was in the right place. :)
If it's discrimination - SM

why do companies hiring MTs as ICs/employees ask for that information, plus two forms of ID. In order to work in this country, you must prove you are a US citizen. 


I have had several occasions when applying for work as an IC that I have been asked not only for two forms of ID but a birth certificate as well. 


That's age discrimination.
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Discrimination
Anymore we all have some form of discrimination and I am sure it will only get worse.  I detest the fact that my husband and I have to sign for allergy meds Alavert-D or Claritin-D at the pharmacy and can only get one package at a time because some "low life druggies" are using these drugs and other compounds in this "free world" to make their so-called "goodies" so that they will have less brain cells than they already do.   How disgusting!  I know what they are doing is making it safer for us, but at the same time is a pain in the butt.
you want reversed discrimination?

My husband is a student there. Each class is 5 weeks. He has had the same students in his class since the beginning. The whites are always working hard on projects and presentations. The blacks do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but they are passing the classes. All of the whites who have them in their group have complained about this. The reason is, the students pass on the basis of groups rather than on an individual basis. If there are 3 whites and 1 black, the black does nothing but is considered part of the group and passes.

THIS IS A FACT!!! 


major discrimination
My husband works for an agent with a major insurance company.  He is not the agent although he does have to have agent's licensing. We were told probably 15 years ago, that a white male would not be allowed to become an agent for many, many years due to people (this happened to be two women) who declared that they were discriminated against in this company.  So to compensate for discrimination this national company will not hire a "white male" for the appointed amount of time (which was a very extended time period of many, many years) unless that "white male walked on water."  That was their quote too.  I have heard (but have not verified this) that this same "discrimination" is going on in the medical field.  Therefore, you have all the ESL's who are able to get into med school but the American Caucasian is not chosen because you cannot discriminate.  My question is "Who is really being discriminated against?"  In my husband's company -- It is the Caucasian white male and I have a feeling that it is the Caucasian that is discriminated against in the medical field as well. 
Discrimination and ESLs
What do you think should be done about the inferior treatment that was heaped upon other groups of people for centuries? I believe your comments were mean spirited and insensitive, and if I were you, I would search my heart and think about what is in it. ESLs help to keep MTs busy and sharpen our listening skills. One of the worst accents I ever had to transcribe for was from the United Kingdom--where "proper" English is spoken. We now live in a global society, a diverse America, and there is no going back to how things were before. Thank God for that!
Maybe a discrimination issue
They can tell your race and age that way, and for an employee application it is probably illegal. For an IC it's completely out of line since the I in IC stands for independent ie. none of their business. Would you ever make such a demand of a doctor, plumber, lawyer, etc.?
You have to have lots more with discrimination
charges. What you have said in your note are "looking up and down" and things you take as being discrimating, nothing really. Your changes of really a suit like this would be about a big 0. Insurance companies are to make money- what about all the homeowners being cancelled on the coast because hurricaines hitting other places and not theirs? It happens! A company can turn you down for any reasons - regardless of your passing their test- they don’t have to hire you. I have looked all over your original post and nothing here that would be a court case. Saying making room, asking if they could eat a cake? If it were chocolate and I was really in the mood, yes I could eat a couple of pieces and so? Most could, they just don’t say they could!
AGE DISCRIMINATION - agree w/ poster below. nm
nm
It is called 'reverse discrimination' and there
concerning this a few years ago.  I don't know what the outcome was.
There is no such thing as REVERSE discrimination.
Discrimination is discrimination regardless of which race /person is practicing it...


That is discrimination......there is a National Awareness Group
to fight against obesity discrimination. Look into that......I don't think, by law, insurance companies can do that, but I may be wrong.

Really, that is awful. It is a form of discrimination, just like not having a seat on an airplane to fit larger people. Eventually, all planes now are supposed to accommodate those with disabilities and I think obesity has been labeled a "Disabiilty' of late.

Check into it further, for your own benefit. Good luck and I wish you well.
It would be discrimination to care about nationality of person you are hiring.
People can't hide accents.  Can you hide your regional American accent?  For instance if you are from New York, can you hide that and speak in a Georgia/Southern accent?  What are you thinking?
Okay, I hate to be the one to scream law suit, but this reeks of discrimination.

I would seriously check out the descirmination laws in your state because that is exactly what this is....  Oh as a Large and Lovely girl myself, I am furious along with you.  Okay not that I would ever want to work for a company who had the moral ethics of a flea, but they need to learn that they cannot treat people like this.   Man the nerve..  


 


 


they don't REFUSE to hire new MT's. They REFUSE to hire them at 6-8 cents per line.

mostly because you can now hire experienced MT's at 6-8 cpl. In the near future, you will be able to hire experienced MT's at 5 cpl. Then people will start getting out of this business and new people will stop trying to get in. I had a job opening and asked people to bid what they wanted per line. One very smart young lady was a new grad and bid 3 cpl. I hired her a year and a half ago, she has been terrific! and I was willing to spend my time training her because a) time is money and she saved me money so I could spend my time and b) she had definite potential!. In another six months, she will be the MT with 2 years experience applying for jobs. AND she will get them because she will test well and essentially "bought" her experience. So use Economics 101...


 


I'm a new-hire MT. I don't know about
the workload available; I was told there was lots of OT available b/c the accounts are behind. We will see.

I'm sorry you have such a bad outlook with this company. Perhaps you should work somewhere else?

Btw, were you trying to spell "carousel" in your post?

oh, they want want to hire you,
its just that they want to pay you less than minimum wage for the first couple years because you aren't *qualified.* I bet the school didn't mention that. None of them do. Good luck paying off that student loan.
I don't know of anywhere that would hire...sm
you with no school training or anything. I think even the local clinics and hospitals want you to have a course in it or something and if you have no job experience they may train.
they don't hire IC but they have sm
but they have some specific accounts in some specialties where you keep the same account, same doctors.
I never said I hire Indian MTs
...but I can't wait to see you bleed to death by your own hand, either.

Thanks for driving us away from American MTs though.

I fought against offshore heavily. What did you do?

Bitter, bitter, incompetent MTs.
What companies hire....

international/over seas MTs? I have been looking and looking for a decent job that hires MTs from Canada, are their any?


RE: What companies hire
Spheris.
No, even the hospitals don't want to hire new MTs.
Doctors don't want to hire newbies.  In office, at home, it doesn't matter.  It's not about being a stay at home mommy, as you are so assuming and generalizing yourself.  Everyone wants to hire experienced workers, but nobody is willing to train them.  As I said, every other industry in the country trains their workers.  MT seems to be the only one where people are expected to walk into it knowing everything.  It's not an assumption; it's an observation.  Just because my experience and observations are different than yours does not make me wrong.  You're not the know all, end all to the MT world.  I do have business management experience and education, so don't dismiss my observation as lacking just because it doesn't match yours.
hire time
I think it took a few days after the recruiter emailed me initially b/c she was busy or something, but after that everything went faster. Maybe you should just call, I don't think they would mind. I don't think you should worry.
I won't hire anyone without them first being willing to test.
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Does anyone know of companies who hire
I currently transcribe but miss medical billing. I would love to find a job working from home. Please post response or email me.

thanks
I don't think DW is not looking to hire anyone but is looking for work herself - nm
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Any companies out there still hire
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You say you need the benefits, so I would definitely hire in
I did transcription at home, bought my own insurance, got depressed and gained weight and lost almost all my social contacts. It really changed my personality for the worse. But for another person with stronger family ties, or real involvement in the community, it might not turn out that way.

In the past 5 years I've had to have some medical attention(comes with my age group) and I have been SO thankful for paid time off and for health insurance. I now also have some hope of having a decent retirement income so I don't burden my children when i get to that age.

It's such an individual thing. Best of luck in making the decision that is a great fit for you and yours.
I would hire you in a heartbeat...

for all of the reasons mentioned in your post, and then some. 


Sorry, not require but WILL HIRE
I'm sorry. I meant hospitals that will hire remote MTs, not require! :o)
Most hire a subcontractor
I think it it is wise to establish a relationship prior to needing them so they are already familiar with the account(s) and can do it with very little instruction.
Who's going to hire a 60 year old except

the fast food places and Wal-Mart. And they don't pay that much either. I already checked into it.


I don't like being around people that much either. I left an office job because of office politics...not once...but 4 times in my lifetime of working. Just couldn't take the crap.  In today's world, the people out there aren't very nice. In fact, some of them are downright nasty. I've seen them treat service personnel as if THEY owned the place.


Also, there aren't many jobs or decent wages in my area. Most jobs around here pay minimum wage. For me to get a good job, I would have to go 40 miles from home into another county without the benefit of a 4 lane highway. Only 2 lanes and mostly through small towns with low speed limits. It would take me about an hour to get to a decent paying, so you're spending 10 hours a week on the road.


I stay in MT because I love the challenge, because I can work at home. I drive my car about 5 miles a week. That's it. A tank of gas lasts me more than a month.


You get your own clients, then you hire them...sm
MTSOs are paid on production, too, so most simply cannot take on the task of training a newbie. If you think that's a good business plan, get some clients and give it a whirl. It's just not realistic to expect MTSOs to train inexperienced MTs and still have enough hours in the day to handle other aspects of the business, as well - and still make a small profit of some sort.

When I see suggestions like this, I have to assume they come from someone who has never even run a business before. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and make suggestions when you have no idea what is involved. The MTSO doesn't just sit on his/her tush and eat bon-bons while the MTs type their fingers to the bone. There is a LOT that goes into running a successful service (key word successful). The lucky MTSOs find enough help to where they don't have to transcribe and can handle just the business aspect, but many aren't that fortunate and still do a good deal of transcribing along with that.

Besides training those inexperienced MTs - and that's a full-time job in itself, believe me - you will have to proof their work very thoroughly (which will mean a full listen on all sound files to ensure accuracy or risk losing your clients altogether). You will also be responsible for tracking and assigning work to the MTs, scurrying to find help when someone decides they'd rather go shopping than work that day (happens more often than you might think), handle payroll and tax documentation for each individual client and each individual MT, invoicing and billing your clients and tracking payments, maintenance of equipment and supplies, handling client phone calls and concerns including next-to-impossible "tech support" questions from clients that really just don't understand the equipment, etc., etc. The list goes on.

Keep in mind, while you are training the inexperienced MTs, you will also need to do a LOT of transcription yourself. Most inexperienced MTs will take all day to finish one 25-minute file, so you will have to transcribe many lines yourself to meet the client's TAT if you want to keep the clients. Since it takes most people at least a year to finish MT school, you can count on keeping up this pace for about that long. And it would probably be more like indefinitely since everyone learns at a different pace.

You will be putting in at least 12-hour days, assuming you are fast and efficient, and you will rarely get time off. If you do take time off, it will be without pay and when you return, you will have so much work piled up that you'll spend the next 2 weeks working around the clock to get caught up.

I'm all for keeping it in the USA, but you cannot seriously expect companies that are also paid on production to train newbies. Would you expect to be trained from the bottom up to be a plumber? Doctor? Dentist? Lawyer? Why do so many MTs think they deserve to be hired without any skills?

If you are up to training inexperienced MTs on top of all that, knowing full well that you will make next to nothing in pay yourself after you pay said MTs at least 7-8 cpl, then knock yourself out and be sure to let us know how it goes!

If I wanted to train inexperienced MTs, I'd start an MT school. Yes, we were all new and inexperienced at some point, but since MT has gone to production pay and offsite, most are not trained OTJ anymore. It's just not feasible, no matter how good your intentions. Even the "experienced" MTs require some training on account specs, so most MTSOs lose money in the first month or so of hiring, but there's no way any smart businessperson would agree to that indefinitely.

If you want to keep jobs in the USA, get adequate training and act professional. Don't accept rotten line rates, even if it's just "for now," and don't turn in work with careless mistakes. Don't say you'll work but then call off because you'd rather take Little Mary and Johnny swimming because it's a nice day. Don't expect special treatment just because you're a mom - many MTSOs are moms, too, and are working long hours and sacrificing time with their own families in order to make sure the clients are happy!! There is no option for MTSOs to just blow work off for the day, because if they do, they probably won't have clients come the next day. Clients won't put up with it since they can just get online and find another service willing to do the work (and more often than not, they don't even have to do that becuase services are marketing to them regularly).

It's not even about offshore competition. It's about changing the way MTs are viewed on the whole. Act professional and you will be treated as a professional. It really is that simple the majority of the time.
Plumber is IC. When you hire him, do you
x
then you need to hire employees ... sm
If you need someone to adhere to a strict schedule then you need to hire employees and pay their SS.  I am finding that more and more employers want the best of both world.  They want to pay like an IC and treat like an employee.  Why MTs are putting up with this is beyond me.  If they report the "employers" to the IRS they can be held liable for back taxes. 
would you hire an MT to be a dentist
without any formal training???? I get very frustrated with people who ask me to get them a job because, after all, how hard can just sitting there typing be?

This is a serious job. You can change a patients past, present and future by one mistake on a report. You do not "travel this avenue" for fun.

If you want to be an MT, and can be serious about it, then you will take an MT course and learn what you need to know. If you are not willing to do that then you need to find another avenue.
TTS, NH - do they hire newbies

TTS, NH - do they hire newbies?  I have a whole 6 weeks of experience and am looking for a good company.  Not fond of the big nationals.


If you have any additional suggestions for good companies I am open.


Looking for employee position, but realize that initially this is almost impossible to find. Will definitely settle for IC status.


If you hire an attorney (sm)
you an also request reimbursement for your expenses, court costs and attorney fees. I would mention this in my letter to the MTSO also. If this MTSO does this to you I guarantee you are not the only person they are doing it to.

Good luck
Yes, they could like hire an employee
of choice and complying with IRS guidelines.  However, since ICs will "agree" to work certain hours, the company gets away with it very, very easily even though it is against the guidelines set forth by the IRS. 
WHY do companies say they hire QA from within? Do
they not understand that MT and QA are two completely different positions, and that if an MT wanted a QA position, she would've applied for it in the first place?  This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.  Rather than hire someone with 10+ years of QA experience, you'd rather 'promote' an MT to become a newbie QA & have to train them from scratch how to QA? Or make someone who's been a professional QA for years become an MT again, when the reason they became a QA in the first place probably had to do with their hands giving out?!  Again, it's not a promotion -- it's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JOB.  Sometimes I wonder if the people in charge of making these decisions have any MT experience at all.  <end of rant>
Sometimes companies hire ICs for
overflow, sometimes permanently. As an IC you do have to purchase your own insurance and you get no vacation time. Some places will pay extra for holidays even as an IC, but you will not get "holiday pay" if you do not work. You set your own hours, if the MTSO is willing for you to work those fine. They cannot set in stone your hours, but they CAN say when they have work available if it is not 24/7 and you can choose to work or not.
Be thankful. If they hire more you will
stare at nothing on the screen.
Did MQ hire supes to be cheerleaders?

Rah, rah, sis, boom, bah ! Almost makes me regurgitate when I get those imails. Also when upper mgmt sends those intro imails over and over about a new "high dollar" CEO/manager that they have hired with our monies, rather than giving us a raise and better benefits.


MQ supe is definitely not the asset it was to the MT's in the past. It is all about pleasing the upper management now -- using Excel to send those much needed reports back and forth. 


I miss the supe of yesteryear! 


does webmedx hire clinic
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So, if you hire an independent contractor to sm
paint your house, do you do a criminal background check on that person.  It's the same thing.  Independent contractors are just that. 
Then think about that the next time you hire "painters" nm
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yep, she had to hire 3 people to do my 8 hour job - sm
AND TWO DOCTORS RETIRED AND TWO MIDWIVES LEFT!!! And the best part - I absolutely positively loved that job with all my heart, and didn't care that I was making $13/hour because my rent was so ridiculously low. But when she made that comment, I walked out, and she opened up a whole new door for me - I now make $68,000/year and granted I do work 45-50 hours a week sometimes, I wouldn't change it for the world.

So I will let her go and feed the monkeys at the zoo.
And then when you hire them do you bother to give them
nm
When they tried to hire me as a radiology transcriptionist sm
they was only offering 0725 and wouldn't go higher. I have 20 years experience.