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Can't answer about Andrews but..

Posted By: me on 2006-07-09
In Reply to: Andrews or Career Step? - Kimberly

as the hiring manager for a small company, I have hired 4 Career Step people and all have done a wonderful job. 


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Andrews or M-TEC
Andrews and M-TEC. Do a search on either one of them and you will find they are the best of the best in MT training.
#1 is M-TEC, #2 Andrews, and #3 is...
Career Step, although I don't believe it is even CLOSE to as comprehensive as the M-Tec and Andrews.  If you want to really be prepared to work after graduating, you will chose wisely. 
Andrews
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Andrews. Never seen anyone not get a job
But I have seen several CS grads still looking for work months later. You get what you pay for, remember. Cheaper isn't always better. If you can't get a job after graduating, then you've lost far more money in the long run on the "cheaper" school. In fact, on another well-known MT site, there is a CS grad looking for work and the spelling/grammar is atrocious for someone who just "graduated." This person shouldn't have been allowed to graduate without honing those skills. Not saying that to be mean, just saying it's the school's job to see that graduates are work-ready and this person clearly was/is not.

JMHO, as an MT of 20+ years and an MTSO, and not to say that CS grads are bad because there are many excellent MTs who went to CS. I just question any school that allows anyone to "graduate" when they still spell common everyday words incorrectly. My two cents, FWIW.
Yes, Andrews or sm
The other one I cannot think of, check the boards at MTchat. Andrews has there own board and the other school, M-Tec or something like that. People rave about those two schools over there. Having it on a "list" is not necessarily indicative of a good school. I think you can even talk to some grads, or see their postings.
M-TEC or Andrews
I hope the original poster does her research. I graduated from M-Tec and got a job right away. Recently someone who learned on the job and had been working in an office for 5 years didn't last a week on my easier account. The point is, there are times when you can learn on the job. These days, that is not the norm. The best advice (in my opinion) is one of the 2 schools mentioned above. You just don't know if the people teaching you on the job are teaching you the right way or not.

I don't know why someone would say those graduates "suck eggs." It is proven time and again those graduates get the jobs because they simply learn more through these schools. Maybe the graduates did not go through the top tier program.

There is mega proof on side of these graduates being top notch (although I suppose there are always exceptions) so for anyone to say the opposite-- well my opinion is that is, again, not the norm. Makes you wonder what the motivation is.

If you take someone who takes a few anatomy lessons and put them on the job for a year and compare them to a recent graduate of Andrews or M-TEC's top tier program, the Andrews/M-TEC graduates, even with no job experience, will come out top by far. They simply cover THAT MUCH. That's why they are hired. Thanks for letting me have my say!




M Tec or Andrews?!

Can anyone tell me pros and cons of both of these schools?  I live in Canada and am trying to decide which one to go with.


Thanks in advance!
Katie


MTEC or Andrews
These 2 schools produce grads who are ready to work and get good jobs. They don't promise you a job, but upon graduation you have access to a list of companies that hire grads from these schools. I personally attended MTEC. They have a placement rate in the mid 90% range for their grads. I had no problem getting a job. In fact, every company I tested with offered me a job. I absolutely have no regrets about my choice to go with MTEC. You can't go wrong with Andrews either.
MTEC or Andrews
MTEC or Andrews would both be excellent choices. They are both well respected, and their graduates get a thorough education enabling them to get jobs.
Andrews turns out the best MTs!
They are "client ready" and have great success.
SALLIEMAE AND ANDREWS?
Does Andrews Accept Salliemae?
Best coding course is Andrews (sm),
same as for MT. AHIMA offers an online course, but Linda at Andrews says be careful because it's time limited; if you don't finish a section in time, you have to pay again. I would go with Andrews because then I'd know I'd get work right after completion. My husband is also studying coding; he's retraining from MT. He's combining it w/a degree in accounting. I only know of 2 online coding companies listed on the forum pedal to the metal (you'll have to Google it) and Amphion, a huge MT/coding company. Many companies right now are hiring coders to fly to the comapny and either audit or do the backlog. Check with "Redpen" (Peggy LaChance) at Andrews School for the best info as she is a working coder and instructor. Good luck.
...or be a grad of M-TEC or Andrews.
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I agree. Andrews or M-Tec. nm
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Has anyone tried Andrews for coding?
I am curious to know since Andrews seems to be reputable for an MT course, if this is the same feeling for the coding course.  I would eventually like to move into this profession when my youngest (she's 8) gets just a little older.  I have 20 years in the MT field, but I'd like to move into coding on-site within the next four years or so.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!    
MTec or Andrews?
I've been researching and it seems to always come down to these two.  Which would you recommend?  I'm having a really hard time deciding which one would be best.  Are there any differences between the two? TIA
Tha;nk you hard choice.. Andrews I think...
I am not stupid actually I'm pretty smart but there is so much to learn and I need the correct support... I am investigating loans and I emailed Linda at Andrews for more information
Andrews or Career Step?
My SIL is really interesting in taking an MT course.  I gave her the phone numbers for both of these schools.  She is undecided about which one to go with.  It looks like Career Step will be less money, but I've heard Andrews graduates seem to get hired more quickly and are getting the better jobs.  Does anybody have experience with either of these schools that can offer some input?  Any information would be welcome and appreciated!  Thanks! 
By reputation, in order: 1. Andrews 2. M-TEC

Those are the big 3, and I've read enough posts on enough boards over the years to say that I think there really is a very strong general consensus on the order I've put them in.  Andrews and M-Tec are actually probably fairly close together in terms of reputation, with Career Step following close behind those 2.


Sounds like it would be more a matter of balancing the costs, time, etc., versus what is offered by each, but if possible, I would think going with Andrews would not only result in better career opportunities, but also just a lot less frustration in the future with difficult dictators, etc., because of the better overall training and foundation they give. 


Completing Andrews vs MTec
Just wondering if anyone can tell me why Andrews is a 9-12 month program and MTec a 12-14 month one? I am very interested in both, but if I can do this in a shorter time frame then I'm for Andrews. Thanks!
This is why Andrews is such a great school. . sm
We were not allowed to use a medical spellchecker with our assignments. We might have at the very end of the course, but I'm not sure about that. We had to learn to use our references. That said, I would not want to work on production without a spellchecker!
Andrews and Career Step have the best reputations
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I am completing a medical coding course with Andrews right now (sm)
and I highly recommend them. The tuition is steep, but they allow you to pay in monthly installments, so that makes it a lot easier. The quality of the course is excellent, and I really think I'll be able to pass the certification exams once I finish the course. The only complaint I have is that they are slow in responding to emails about tests, questions, etc., but other than that, I would recommend them. Good luck.
Totally untrue...M-TEC & Andrews grads are...
still allowed to test.  Please stop giving false information.
Why? M-TEC & Andrews produce the absolute best grads.
nm
The owners of both Andrews and M-Tec very accessible and can help you with your decision.
Best of luck. :)
Andrews, M-TEC, Career Step, in that order.
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Andrews has a coding program, & its reputation is as good as their MT course.
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I've never heard a bad remark from Andrews or M-Tec grads.
I've heard about the grader being wrong/ambiguous, and I've heard about the mistakes in the course.

From what I've heard, I also think the course is geared toward producing MTs to work for the big cheap companies. It's kind of like a (fill in the blank)______ company MT-maker assembly line.


I think I saw "Pell Grant" mentioned on Andrews site?? nm
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Andrews School or M-TEC online are excellent courses. See inside.
If you complete one of those courses, you should have no trouble finding a job working from home. They are a bit more expensive than some of the other courses, but MANY companies will waive their 2 years' experience requirement for grads of those two schools. Do not be suckered in by cheaper schools, MT companies know which schools supply good training and which ones don't.
A simple google search will give you your answer...I'd give you the answer,
but how would that help you learn to research on your own...and I'm in a rush to get to the next post. 
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Yes, of course I'm half afraid if I leave him I won't find someone else and half afraid that I will!!  I'm old enough and had enough good and bad times with men that I really don't think it would be the end of the world if I lived the rest of my life alone.  It's maybe what I would not choose but it might have some positives in the long run.  At least that's what I tell myself when I'm feeling good, during the middle of the night is another story....


Break-ups are tough.  How do you stay on course.  You get lonely, you miss him, you doubt your judgment, you want to try again, you tell yourself maybe you were too hard on him......


I think I should go to a counselor, it's just that it's quite expensive and as I said, I'll be paying for it out of pocket.  I think they will tell me pretty much what you have.


It sounds like things have worked out for you.  I thank you for your insight and help.


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The payperiod I average 16,000 lines is a bimonthly payperiod. It runs 1st through the 15th and 16th through end of the month. It is WAY more than the minimum requirement. I am EXPECTED (with that employer) to do a minimum of 6000 lines per payperiod but the incentive is just too good to pass up.

See my post below if you want to know more. Or ask me. I'm not hiding anything. I'll tell you straight up what works for me.
Yea.. I used to think that. Now, for me, the answer is, no.

but again, you should go for it.  You might love the challenge and have a really great team that will help you not have to roast over the flames.  Its always possible! 


Godspeed my friend, do it if you want to.  It really might be the best thing you ever did!  Or not, but either way, you will know for sure! 


I can only answer for myself. sm
I never applied for a supervisor's job.  When the super quit because of stress I was asked (no begged) to take the job (in the office) until a qualified supervisor could be hired.  Time dragged on until I finally had to say either a supervisor was hired in 2 weeks or I would be quitting in two weeks.  I never enjoyed being "the boss," don't know why...I just didn't. Another thing.....I abolutely HATE being told lies.  I was told by an MT that she couldn't cover her 3rd shift assignment (guess who did cover it) because her grandmother had died...that was the 6th time AFTER I started counting, no telling how many grandmother's she had all told.  I guess some people enjoy being the boss for one reason or another.
my first answer is, of course, neither but (sm)
if I HAD to choose, I guess I'd say A...rather give it to some poor children than some rich b****.
a better answer would have been

leaving off the "jerk" comment, and recommend that people contact the MQ office they are affiliated with to see what that particular office wants them to do.


Anyone doing DQS...please answer this for me.

When I need to enter a NEW HEADING, I type it in, then it brings up a new box that says "type in new heading"...I finish typing it, hit OK or whatever, and it puts the new heading in my report.


BUT...it doesn't KEEP The new heading!  ARG!  It stays on the drop down list of headings for THAT REPORT ONLY but then when I do a new report, the new heading never shows up.


What am I doing wrong?  Help!! 


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I don't quite understand what you mean by the style they prefer, I worked there 4+ years, it is either feast or famine, not a very honest bunch.  You can make money for short periods of time until they over hire and run the account out of work and make promises to you they won't keep.  They don't have very good communication and rarely return calls or emails.  Their platform is not too bad, seen better, but easy to use.  I would like clarification though by what you mean by the style they prefer?
the answer is
New blood who don't ask for much, job a low line rate and glad to have a job. They don't see that the experienced workers will soon all be gone.
Got my answer!!!
I have been asking for months, "WHERE ARE ALL THE DOCTORS I CAN UNDERSTAND, I CAN'T MAKE MINIMUM LINE COUNT ANY MORE". I do not do ASR but my account is on it and I have been screaming for months that I can't even use my expansions anymore, that I have used for years. They are going to hear from me again. They respond to me like I am crazy, well I know now that they know why!!!

THANKS!!!
Well, what is your answer, I'm
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No, I don't work for that office. Mine is out of Baltimore and I have to admit that I have really really liked most of the folks I have had contact with. My current supervisor is wonderful!!! Pretty much always have lots of work available. My only complaint is my secondary account is not so hot (but LOVE my primary) and have never had a raise in 8 years (hmmmph), but other than that I'm quite happy.

We have a cabin up north where DSL is not available, only dial-up, so I work on a laptop and take it with me when we go up there. Very nice.
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Yes, obviously if I am to purchase a home, all the expenses that come with home ownership are coming out of my income alone. I do not pay anything currently except the phone bill, some groceries, ins for car, and gas, and I have lots extra that I spend frivously that obviously needs to stop.
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What type of exam, nuclear medicine or US?
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I have heard a doctor say this like "subsonometer" and it is just the way they talk and they mean subcentimeter. This is what I have experienced anyways.
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Answer me this...

Does your mortgage company - the telephone company - the phone company - the cable company, etc. discount your bill if you pay on time or do they add a late fee if they don't receive your payment on time?


I don't agree you should reward a company to do something they should normally do - something that's considered a basic in good business - paying on time.  


 


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