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Cherrypicking didn't make our line rates less -

Posted By: (In the po-house!) on 2008-07-18
In Reply to: I have heard so many people rationalize cherrypicking and seen too many supervisors not deal with i - Susanr

the lower line rates are what started people c-pickingin the first place, so they could make enough each week to live on. Back when I was paid by the hour (and lots more than I'm getting now per hour, I did whatever came along. But I'm sorry, I'm not gonna GIVE an employer a chunk of my change for the 'privilege' of doing a 40-minute report by a gum-chewing ESL with static on the line, partying nurses, or crying babies in the background, that I just plain can't understand, when I have the option to choose something that is at least transcribe-able.

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After all the time and money spent in getting you hired and equipment ordered and sent to you and then you pull that.

It costs the companies considerably. This is passed onto the rest of us as restricted line rates.

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I was an hourly employee hired in 1989 at 7.00 an hour, and after 17 years was making 13.00 an hour when I left due to my job being outsourced.

My first IC account paid $1.50 a page, and I got a raise to $2.00 a page (dumped for nonpayment).  My 2nd IC account pays 10 cents per gross line including blank lines (Word), and I haven't gotten a raise in 10 years; afraid to ask; I sub that work and make a killing.

My 3rd IC account on my own I charge 12 cpl (65 cpl w/ spaces), and I can get his work done in no time; so I average about 50.00 an hour for that.

My online account I started at 7.5 and now make 8 and do all clinic work and easy, peezy dictators, no set schedule; no line quota; and no they are not hiring.

My Salary approximately:

2006 - $27,000.00 a year approx

2008 - $45,000.00 a year approx

I never realized I could double my salary if I worked for myself and worked production instead of hourly.  WOW! 

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I started about 15 years ago at an hourly rate, then became 0.08 cpl, but with all kinds of incentives so that sometimes it was maybe 0.095, and benefits. Since then it has become: no benefits; no incentives; then without telling us they changed the DEFINITION OF A LINE!!! How underhanded can anyone be?!?! So the more experience I have, the better I get, the less I make.
Line rates

I'm just curious, is anyone out there charging extra to do ESL dictations or dictations from the really difficult, horrible dictators?  I know it is be hard to break these out from other providers of the same group who are of average difficulty but it just seems as though we never have any idea of the quality of the dictations when we agree on a line rate.  Then, whammy!  You discover the quality is really poor.  Sure some may be good those that are bad tend to be really bad.  I think we should be able to charge extra for those.

I'm an experiened MT and it never ceases to amaze me how we set a line rate, but then that goes down the tubes when you get providers who dictate in broken English (taking lots more time to re-listen) and/or those that leave huges gaps of blank recording while they look stuff up, answer their cell phones, etc.  (I guess this is where charging by the recorded amount of time would help). 

Any creative line rates out there to compensate for these, i.e. charging differently for residents, ESL providers, providers who do not know how to use the pause button????


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They tell me I am too expensive and want me to lower my rates......

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Where are these low line rates? sm
I have two jobs, one FT employee, one PT IC. The FT is new and the PT I have had for two years. FT pays me with 9.5 cpl WITH benefits and the IC 10 cpl no benefits.

I had been working for 8.5 cpl with good line incentives and benefits. They went BIG TIME VR and I left.

I have not seen less than 8 cpl in ages and I DO LOOK.
Where are these low line rates? me again.
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I COME HERE AND LIE??? I have no reason to do that.

I have always said that line rates are arbitrary. So much more of what you can make is platform, Expander and you.

I left TT not too long ago. I really wanted out and really wanted another employee situation with benefits. Being very motivated to move on and not being able to afford to wait, I took an IC job for 8 cpl that could go to 9 cpl. The lines were easy to get. 1000 lines took about 4-5 hours for me to get. The platform was better than Extext where it took at least 6 hrs to get to 1000 lines, FOR ME.

While working the IC job, I had the opportunity to test with a national. While I rarely agree to test, I did this time for many reasons, most of which was wanting the job very much. I did well on the test. I was offered 9 cpl, an incentive program and shift differentials for working both weekend days. Because my shifts are split, all over the day and evening, as well as both weekend days, they decided to nix the differentials in favor of another 0.05 cpl to offset my odd hours. It comes out in my favor and I was very happy to get it. The platform is sizzling fast for me and my 1300 lines a day only takes 5 hours or so.

The PT IC job I have at 10 cpl is one I have had for a number of years. The account is one that most MTs will not even attempt. In the last year we have been through about 8 MTs, all of whom tried the account and failed...either because they obviously didn't have the experience they claimed to have, or because they didn't want to do the extremely high number of ESLs. It is paid highly because of the level of difficulty.

While it is not nice of me to say this, it is the truth. This business is getting down to the survival of the fittest, most capable and knowledgeable MTs who get the better money. The rest will have to settle for whatever they can find and whoever will hire them. It is an MTSO's market right now and they will grab the best they can get for the money they can pay. The better they pay, the better MTs they can attract.

There are other expectations that MTSOs have these days, like getting off QA in short order, and making your minimum lines very quickly. Although the longest I have spent on QA in the last five years is only four days, and I have always made the minimum lines from day one, this is a very stressful time for me, and I have proven over and over that I can do it!

If your jealousy compels you to slam me, so be it. I could not always do what I do now. Instead of slamming people, I chose to ask them how they did it, so I could do it better. I still ask questions of those I respect in this business. Every year there are fewer and fewer MTs I have yet to out do, but that doesn't keep me from trying to do better. It never takes me long to find more work when I want it, and when I need work/money I have been known to take less money knowing that the work is pretty mindless and I can make enough to get through the rough spots.

My name is "Not working quite so hard" because these days I am working four days a week for more money than I made at TT in 5 or 6 days, and with less grief. Then again, I took some undesirable days and an couple of undesirable accounts.
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Line rates by city/state...

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I wouldn't work for less than 0.08/65-character line that included spaces. If you're traveling, printing, etc., charge more. Tax advice should come from professional tax preparers, not this site. Also check IRS website.
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I know that 10 years ago, Medquist charged one of their big hospitals in St. Louis 24 cents per line!!! Yet of course they pay their employees peanuts, since they pay by the WORD. (MQ is more concerned with paying Wall Street.) But there's your upper ceiling of what you might dare think of charging!
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For all of you who live in Michigan what is the line rate you are paid?  I want to get an average of the industry here is Michigan.
Line rates are set by company, not state.
Line rates can also be regional. Too many variables to
give somebody else hope that they might someday get the same rate. If you don't like the rate an employer offers, don't take it -- that's the only way to make them listen. It's not the baloney you seem to think it is.
Plus, line rates vary by company
depending on the account.  I told someone how much I made, she got a job with the same company on a different account making less $$. 
Plus, line rates vary within the company
depending on the account.  I told someone how much I made, she got a job with the same company on a different account making less $$. 
OMG--4 cents/line? I've never heard of rates that low (SM)
Please, Gaile, you are worth so much more than that. My first job with MQ in 2001 I earned 7.7 cents per line. Since that at other jobs I have earned 8 cpl, 10 cpl, and now about 9 cpl. Please do not sell yourself short. Two years experience is enough to get much better than that. Good luck to you whatever you decide to do.

MY GOSH, I am getting ripped off! Those are some excellent line rates...
ICs -- what are your rates right now? what are you charging per line, page, minute, etc?

I'm trying to get my own docs and want to set rates that are equivalent to everyone else so as not to undercut and lower our industry standards. But, I can't seem to find out what rates are locally, soooo, as much input as possible would be appreciated.  Anyway, I know that local family practices have been quoted by the hour, by the minute, by the line, by the page, and so on.

I don't really want to do by the minute -- it makes them feel like they have to dictate at sonic speed. Some of them balk at by the line because no matter what you tell them, they feel like they are penalized for having nice formats. They balk at by the page because they think you will extend it to 2 pages for more money. Then there are the ones who gripe about hourly rates because they feel like you will type slower to make more money. I actually typed a sample tape for a local practice a year ago and based on my rate the office manager figured it up PER PATIENT and said it was too much!! 

I know family practice docs and nurse practitioners don't make that much money but dangit I gotta feed my family too.

So help, please!!!!



Need MT section on this board to post line rates sm

and what company to help turn things around in this industry, meaning, the 4,5,6,7,8 9 etc per line which is grossly under paying if one takes the time to figure, how many lines, how many lines per hour, per minute, per second to make HOW MUCH PER HOUR.  This is the key, how much per hour you make.

With a list of where to refer to, it helps curb this slave labor mentality.

THE MTs NEED A SECTION ON THIS BOARD to list going rates so the industry becomes more competitive and not at our expense with all this " supply 3 phones, supply long distance TO THEM. BUY THIS AND PROVIDE THIS TO THEIR COMPANY.  Buy this license, this software. 

My contribution: As taken from their ads the last month (looking back) at least 10/ln

Future Net Tech - California  9-10

CPR Tech California 10

Digital Records California - California

Phoenix Trans

Keystrokes Ill.

Tidewater  Virg.

Trans tech

Ascend 9-11 BVirg.


TTS New Hampshire

Softscript - California

MWPS Michigan   Rad.


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Line rates gross versus 65-character

I recently had a call for family practice dictation and I offered 12 cents per line.  Have always charged by the gross line and was charging 14 cents, which I thought was too high, so lowered it to 12 cents.  However, the more I am reading I see that 65 character seems to be the way everything is getting billed.  I also realize at 12 cents per line I lose a lot going to 65 character lines. 

I also realize with family practice that they might have a lot of times where there is one or two words on a line and probably wouldn't be too happy about paying for gross lines. 

I guess I'm looking for advice on charging.  Is charging for gross lines unheard of anymore? I have already quoted the 12 cents, so that will have to be my charge.  But as far as gross or 65 character, I haven't been asked that yet but would need to have that absolutely straight with them before starting.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.  I know I'm a little behind the times and am trying to catch up and stay competitive also. 


Just read whole thread. Yes. Working for a service is okay because line rates
actually have gone down. Just make sure they pay for spaces, headers, footers.
Yep, that woudl be the reason for the lower line rates these days! Boy, you figured that all out...

However, you fail to see that if the company itself was honest about the company, its structure, the software, and the accounts, few MTs would leave so quickly.  It's the old saying of what came first, the chicken or the egg? 


To the original poster, if you feel uncomfortable with a company or an account, by all means go with yorur gut feeling.  If you feel somehow responsible for accepting the job without researching it first and want to keep your side of the street clean, you can always resign and offer to return the equipment at your expense.  As always, make sure you get a return receipt, but this might make the ending to this chapter of your life more comfortable for you. 


Good luck in whatever you decide to do!!!

I didn't want to make anyone sad! Like I said, sm
It is not everyday that I can do this. I have bad days too! I am fortunate right now, but I also remember, good things don't always last forever. I will take advantage of it while I have it.
I don't make 0.08/line.. I work for no less than .13/line. nm
She didn't MAKE anything SOUND like anything.

Your perception is warped.  YOU chose to interpret it in a different way than she intended.  That's your comprehension level, not her playing cards.  My goodness!  It must be lonely up there on your pedestal telling everyone how perfect you are.  Oh, you never made a mistake.  You made all the "right" decisions.  Blah, blah, blah.  You must be really unhappy and bitter if that's all you can do is tell everyone how great you and your life are.  What's the matter?  Husband cheating on you?  Erectile dysfunction?  Evidently, something is terribly wrong in your life, or you wouldn't be here preaching and condemning other people.  You would be out living your perfect life with your perfect husband and lack of kids.

Personally, I'm sick and tired of your crap showing up on these boards all the time.  I don't care if I get banned for telling it like it is.  It's worth it to not have to listen to you.  If we parents and single mothers bother you so much, why don't you find the dried up, bitter, old crone boards to hang out on?

and, i didn't make THAT much money nm
Sorry, that didn't make sense! I mean
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If he didn't tell her to make the macros
?????  I think this is just someone trying to "get back at a doctor".  I don't see the harm in giving them to him with a line rate charge.  But maybe I just live by karma and not using "revenge" tactics.  I believe if you are giving, then you will receive.  I am not saying offer them for free. I think I would charge a line rate just for going through the trouble of printing them.  I do believe that when a doctor dictates normals, they do belong to him and not the transcriptionist.  The Transcriptionist transcribes them.  He/she is not the "author".  It happens every day when work is outsourced.  The samples are handed right over to the outsourcing company with no charge.  The hospital/physician does not charge the outsource company for handing over the samples.  What if everytime we needed a sample to guide us, we were charged for that?  It is the same argument here.  The company I work for gladly hands over samples/templates to make my job easier, and they do not charge me for that.  JMO.  Maybe I'm just a realist.  I say be a better person and give the man the macros with a line charge assessed if that makes it more fair.  Is anyone seeing my point here?  There is something underlying in the "don't give them your macros", and I just think it is more like a way to get revenge because of the hurt feelings in the way that he may not need the typist once these are given.  I'm sure he's not looking for "the patient, follow-up, etc.".  He probably wants "normal" paragraphs that he has dictated as part of a report.  The typist is not the author of that, the doctor is.  JMO. 
The bottom line is doesnt matter what they pay if there is no work you make no money. Bottom line.
Didn't make much money. Worth it to go on?

I'm thinking of getting back into MT again after doing something else for 5 years.  I'm just afraid it's going to turn out like last time and seem like the money wasn't worth it.  I worked for a national for 30 hours a week and my take home pay averaged $800 for a month.  This was based on getting only 6 cpl back then. 

Is anybody else coming in this low?  Did I pick the wrong company?  I could only average 125 lph.   I don't want to make the same mistake.  It just seems like luck of the draw as to what company to try to go with, especially with the IC vs. employee status.  I was an employee before.

I'd like some honest feedback of what is considered "low" income.  I know it varies a lot based on many factors!!!

I didn't post that but if I had to make a guess...

I would guess the poster meant that newbies always feel they have a high accuracy. 

Don't be offended....if that is what was meant.

Ask your QA or supervisor where you stand.  At least you care !!! 

Didn't make me cry but wasn't a breeze.
I studied when I could. After 30 years I think you'll pass.  Please let us know how you do and good luck!