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I was making 6.5 cpl in 1975 at a service -- 30 years later most jobs

Posted By: start @ 7 cpl. (1/2 cent increase in 30 years). on 2008-06-09
In Reply to: I have to disagree. I make more money from home - and refuse to go inhouse again.

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I was making 6 cpl back in 1975! - nm
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I was making 6 cpl back in 1975! There is DEFINITELY something wrong! (s/m)
Back in '75, you could fill a 20-gallon gas tank for about $8-10. Now $20 buys me just 6.5 gallons!

And now milk is even more expensive than gasoline! Sure glad my car doesn't run on milk!

In 1980, a nice 1-bedroom apt. in Calif. was about $350. Now it's about $1150-1250 for a very mediocre one.

A box of dry cereal nowadays? Five bucks. An artichoke? $1.50-$2.00.

In 1972 a brand-new, totally loaded luxury sedan cost about $10,000. Now you can't get a bare-bones Hyundai for that.

I think the only way to prevent MT wages from continuing to drop is to start getting vocal about the situation (and the health & legal risks it poses to patients & MDs), and start talking to legislators about the offshoring problem. Then start speaking with our votes. Some MTs in my area are unionized (I think at Kaiser). Maybe we ALL should be, so we'd have someone to speak for us, because right now now only is the government on our side, but the very companies that advertise all over these boards for "badly-needed MTs" are against US MTs as well, if all they're offering is 6-7 cpl,sweatshop working conditions, and little or no benefits.
I have been doing this for 30+ years, like the poster below, starting in 1975 sm

in high school, trained on the job.  I have no idea what radiology pays, but with your experience, you should be able to get at least 9 cpl as an employee doing acute care, more as an IC.  There are still companies that pay semi-decent wages, but they are getting harder to find.  Sad to say, I made 10 cpl GROSS line back in 1986 -- cannot say that today.


Good luck!



I did 3 jobs for a while about 3 years ago, you burn out quick, I was doing 3 MT jobs though...after
10 months I cut down to 2 as I don't like to have all my eggs in one basket.  But I am considering going down to 1 in September for my sanity, its a good steady job so financally it should not be an issue.  I have 2 right but have not worked the 1 in about 3 weeks due to some problems at their end, supposed to learn a VA account but not sure if I want to pursue it right now or not, they are waiting to hear from me at this point. I still have a lot going on with chemo, etc. so am mulling things over.  But if you have a full-time day job, then I would just go with 1 part-time MT job at night, unless 1 is during the week, and the other weekends only, then of course you will be working 7 days a week, very tiring I know.  I have been working 7 days a week for 3 years now but I do slack off now and then of course to recharge and get sleep etc. But burnout happens fast and I doubt you want to lose your day job so be careful. Good luck.
Civil Service/Government MT Jobs?

Hi all, I am wondering if any of us work as an MT for any government agencies, V.A. hospitals,  military bases, etc.  And if so, how is the pay rate.  Is the hiring process difficulty.  THANKS!


I am going broke, looking for a more lucrative 2008.


 


Office jobs for temp service?

If you do office work for a temp service you can pick/choose which jobs you like and if you don't want to work for a 20-something it won't be a problem.  Most of the temp services also offer software classes and you can upgrade your skills or learn something new and then after you've mastered it, ask for more money!  I got back into the workforce about 2 years ago after MT burnout.  Most of my assignments were pretty good.  I had one really BAD one and I quit after a day.  The woman was absolutely impossible to work for.  I later learned I was the 4th temp in a week and the temp service owner finally said they were "firing" that client - LOL.


I asked her why she sent me if she knew the woman was that difficult.  She said she figured I could handle it.  Gee, thanks!


I worked in the computer industry as a temp for large giants, Intel and Oracle, before deciding on a job in the regulatory affairs division of a medical device manufacturer.  It was fun working at the big companies and I became badly spoiled with all the latest/greatest technology and on-site cafes.  I learned a LOT!


Unfortunately, big companies are doing more temp help now and its all but impossible to get a perm job.  Don't sell yourself short & think you can only be a Wal-Mart greeter.  You do have valuable skills from MT and could utilize them in a higher paid position than a greeter.  Leave that job to the poor senior citizens who are now having to go back to work.


Two jobs don't equal one when it comes to making money and not wasting time. sm
Recommend looking for one good job.
In over 10 years at a service (sm)
that had over 80 tape accounts, we only had one that used minicassettes, two to three who used standard size and the rest used microcassettes. In my experience, the minicassette players are expensive and hard to get service for. After 15 years and 5 players, we ended up with only one survivor that would work; even the Lanier guy couldn't revive the others. We finally had to tell the stubborn account that we were not going to guarantee that we could transcribe the minis in a timely way anymore and they (amazingly!) coughed up the money to get their MDs new microcassette recorders. Snort.

However, even those days are waning, I understand, since digital recorders are becoming very affordable. It may be that you won't need tapes at all.
Used service for years. sm
The nice thing is if something cheaper comes along, can switch services. Have never had problems with them.

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Are you making less than you did 3 years ago? sm
Unfortunately, I was making a LOT more.  Went from $900 a week to an occasional $900 a week and so many dead slow weeks it's about time to quit.  I will not be able to afford another computer and pay the overhead with so many slow weeks.  Of course, the alternative is to work for a very low line rate and I have found it is not worth it to work for pennies.
After being an MT for 2 years, how much should I be making? sm

I feel like I can't get out of this rut of making enough money to just pay my bills and nothing left over.  What would you say the average annual salary should be after 2 years of acute care work?


Thanks


After five years I was making $14.50/hr

We got one hour of PTO (paid time off) for every 10 hours worked, so that's just a little less than 3 weeks a year. We had a 401K that was pretty decent, good health insurance, life insurance equal to two years' pay, and they offered AFLAC and disability insurance as well.


Oklahoma's cost of living is among the lowest in the nation....I don't know how people living in California can make it on $8-$12/hr.


Used Cognigen service for years. sm
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Me 2, 15-20 years ago I was making about $70,000 a year

Now it seems, I'm just scraping by, juggling the utility bills and paying whichever one has sent me the 24-hour disconnect notice this month; it's become a grim miserable job compared to what it was.  I'm nearing retirement age, but I doubt retirement is going to be in my future for a very long time.


The single worst thing that ever happened to us was going from the gross line count to the character count, and not adjusting the line rate upward to parity -- not to mention the adjustments that should have been made to accommodate all the extra time spent struggling to make sense of huge increase in ESL dictations that has occurred over the last 15 years, and of course there should have been COLAs as well, which we all know has not happened.


In the 1980s, with the advent of powerful and affordable PCs, free lance transcription became much more common.  So if you were experienced, disciplined and organized, you could be much better off economically by working for yourself -- although there were definitely advantages to working in-hospital.  There were great benefits and the salary was indeed enough to support a small family (albeit very modestly.) 


For a number of years during that time, many of us worked part time in the hospital for benefits, but made our real money at home.


But in my case, the time came when it just made no economic sense to work in-housel, I was better buying off buying private insurance for major medical care, tax-deferred annuities, and self-insuring the little stuff. 


I would just pick up tapes from the hospital every morning, and drop off the work (which I printed out) from the day before.


I usually had 24 hours to transcribe tapes which I did during school hours, when things were peaceful and quiet. 


I transcribed a couple thousand GROSS lines day.  Every single character line counted, so by taking advantage of headers/footers, creative macros, word expansions, etc., I really boosted my productivity far beyond to what I could do in-house on the self-correcting Selectric, Wang or Mag Card, or whatever 10-years behind technology was currently being used, plus all the office distractions and politics, and I definitely did not to have to work 24/7 to earn a good living. (Oh how I loved WP5.1!)


In fact, 2000 gross lines a day, 5 days a week at 10 cents a line (courier 10-pitch font, one-inch margins) was very very do-able for an experienced productive acute-care MT, provided she had good equipment, good reference books, and stayed focused.  It would take about 5-6 hours a day to get that amount of work done.  So figure the math out for yourselves, that's just a tad under $50,000 a year, certainly not a high standard of living in those days but adequate when it meant you could stay home and be actually be a full time parent when your children were home from school, and very comfortable, if you were married with a working spouse, or had rerliable child support, or social security for your children (if you were widowed.)


If you chose to work some weekends and evenings, it was not that all that difficult to hit that $75,000 a year mark, which I did for a couple of years so I was able to pay the tuition at a good boarding school -- and cruelly thwarted my teen-aged son's only ambition in life, which was to become a high school drop-out.


Things have gotten bad, no doubt about that, and the worst part of it is, is that most of the big MTSOs are still charging the hospitals as much as we used to earn, and sometimes even more, but the MT is no longer earning it, and often can't get enough work to meet the line counts required by the MTSOs for benefits (although the cost of those benefits are reflected in the cost charged to the hospital.) 


I don't know what the answer is, as the electronic immigrant is such a huge threat.


It's pretty darn awful, and I feel very very bad for those of you starting out in this field, and I do hope things change for you (and that someday soon I can retire.)


And the point that the person made is that that she was worth $75,000 a year, not necessarily that she was getting it or could get it, and I absolutely agree with her.  This is a hard tough job if it's done right -- it's mentally tiring, it's hard on your back, your hands, your neck (and your behind.)


It requires a lot of time -- it requires focus, you must stay alert, and must give 100% of your attention to what you are doing 100% of the time, it takes education and brains -- and now a word of truth which my 35+ years experience gives me the right to say aloud -- it's not fulfilling, wonderful, lovable and enjoyable, it's often as repetitious and tedious as an assembly line but infinitely more frustrating.


PS: I recall one of my colleagues from those early years of my career, now gone from this earth, telling me that the 1960s were really the "fat" years, that things actually began to decline salary-wise, in real dollars, in the 1970s. 


You are an exception to the rule. After 20 years, I'd like to be making
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You're okay making LESS than you made 10-20 years ago?
I'm not. No, every "job" doesn't work itself DOWN the ladder of success. I'm working to earn a living, I'm working to have goals, to better myself and my way of life. I would never settle for a job that keeps paying less and less. Sorry, but I disagree with you but to each his own.
Yes! My kids (above, age 22 and 24) started out making more than I make after 30 years of MT!
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Have had Hughes for 5 years (used to be Direcway) great internet service sm
but truly hate if I have any kind of problem and have to call in. Luckily that is rate to nonexistent.
10 years here, too, and making 8.4....same as i was 5 years ago. nm
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At least 12 in 14 years, some for less than a day. Had 2 jobs
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my friend just finished her BSN 2 years ago, working 32 hr/week making $60K with benefits nm
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Haven't heard in years. Supposedly making it harder to get money
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Early in my career I worked for a service in the office. I gave my notice after almost two years...

with them because I got a job with a hospital that paid better and had better benefits.  I gave my notice and the office manager made my life heck for my remaining two weeks.  He gave away my desk, my chair, my transcriber (we were still transcribing cassettes back then).  I spent the next two weeks shuffled between workstations and using the crappiest equipment they had.  He also refused to give me any help on my account.  It was a huge family practice from which I would get at least seven 90 minute tapes a day from them.  Before I gave my notice, I was the lead on the account and had three other people helping.  When I gave my notice, he couldn't spare anyone to help me and I got several tapes behind.  I kept telling him I was behind and he would just say do what you can.


Long story short, he tried to stiff me on my last paycheck because he said my account was way out of turnaround time and I had cost them money.  He had told the owner of the service that I had never asked for help and that I purposefully held tapes back to screw them.  I ended up taking them to small claims court to get my money.


Some people are just ugly people that take EVERYTHING personally.  You can't win with people like that.  They are unprofessional.  I wouldn't worry about your boss' attitude.  In a couple of weeks, he'll just be a memory.


I have 13 years experience and just started a hospital job working from home making $16 an hour

and with a really good incentive plan.  I live in the Kansas City area.  $10 seems like a low starting point even with only two years experience which is the usual benchmark for hospital MT jobs. 


It's been my experience that the low end of the pay scale for hospital employed MTs was around $12 an hour.  Also, it's been my experience that the pay offered is usually based on years of experience and how well you perform on the transcription test.


I would say if their pay is that low, they should at least be making it up with incentive and it doesn't sound like they are.


JMO


I've done a lot of WAHM jobs in the past 15 years.

Is it the typing that's getting you or the subject matter?  Maybe try general or insurance transcription?  I did secretarial work at home for a while, bookkeeping, typing, resumes, insurance typing, databases, mail merges.  I did mystery shopping, but couldn't make any money at it.


I sold on eBay by going to yard sales in the hot afternoon and offering people $1 a box to haul off their leftovers.  Or go early in the morning so you can snap up the collectibles.  Run an ad in the paper that you're buying certain collectibles.  Estate sales and auctions are good sources of stuff, too.  I once paid $12 for several boxes of junk that I sold for $800.  eBay does get tiring quite often between finding packing materials; finding inventory to sell; answering people's emails because they can't bother to read the auction instructions; nonpaying bidders; blatant liars; driving to the post office every day, etc.


I've done some other WAHM jobs but, again, eBay and transcription make the most money for me from my home.


I worked grave yard for years but then my jobs all
disappeared by midnight. This very large company said they needed help late and I always did my work, did all the preop hps, etc., but now I am lucky to get 5 jobs a night. This happened to several others that I know, too. It is simply that the off-shore do it cheaper. I did not get paid a differential, either. I just like that shift, but I also need work, so good bye big company
Girl, I'm with you... started in 1975
in a Medical Records Department transcription... so I was self-taught by necessity and learned fast. Even had carbon paper between the sheets for the copies! We've come a long way in some things and gone backwards in others. I made more money in the early 80s (cpl) and didn't have to work nearly as hard...no ESLs even... didn't know what they were back then!  Boy, things have changed.
I started on a mag card in 1975 (loved it!)... and (s/m)
then in subsequent jobs used a Selectric & correction paper, or correction tape.
When Liquid Paper dame along, it made doing reports with 4 carbons behind the original a lot easier, though not necessarily less messy! I also found out I was slightly allergic to carbon paper! It makes me itch & sneeze. When I arrived at my current job in '80, my office-mate had been at it since the late 40's/early 50's. Back then, she said she actually took her notes LIVE, sitting in front of the doctor while he talked. (We all had alot more time back then!) She took her notes in shorthand (remember shorthand?), and then went back to her desk and transcribed them. So that was even 'way before ANY kind of recorded dictation!

Then we got Correcting Selectrics. Nice, but not NEARLY as much memory as the Mag-Card, where you could just keep on shoving those cards in for an unlimited amount of memory.

At one service I worked for, we had state-of-the-art "Lexitrons". I loved those, too. The memory was on cassettes - like the kind you play music on. Each cassette had 15 empty pages on it. We had some for "normals", others for entirely transcribed reports. The printers were pretty primitive... they typed with keys, just like a typewriter. And they only went ONE direction, then the carriage would return! You also couldn't type while it was printing. Finally they got an upgrade where it printed both forward & backward, and we could type while that was going on. We thought we had joined the Space-Age at that point!

Eventually we got an IBM computer for my office. It had a tiny screen, so you could only see 1/2 the page or less at a time. At that time Wang was the most popular computer/software, but they still wanted an IBM because they were familiar with the name.

Then I changed offices within the SAME organization, and it was back to a Selectric again!

Many years, computer and software changes later, we now have Dells and a powerful word processing system. And oh, yes: Now we have strained necks, carpal tunnel syndrome, thumb & neck splints, ergonomic work stations, sore backs, fat butts, etc., etc., etc.! Something we never worried about back in school, when we used the old manual typewriters with manual carriage returns!
Mt. Lakes High School, NJ 1975

It has not been financially worthwhile, but I find it easier to get jobs. I have 18 years experienc
and I find with the CMT, I get an offer for every job I go after. In all fields, there are many employers that just feel more secure hiring you with initials after your name. I will be keeping mine.
sure i was. i'm making fun of the people who are making a case for background checks, etc
to do medical transcription at home as if they may do something AWFUL with the info they receive. So if you want an invasion of privacy let's REALLY invade it and make sure fat chicks don't transcribe because they are so busy eating they can't get the work done, they mess up the keyboard with food and if they are provided health insurance they will raise the rates for the company sky high because their health risks are higher than others. Then there are the psychological issues overweight people bring to the table. After we eliminate fat people, we can go on to eliminate diabetic people who may have low blood sugar while typing and go into a spell and type the wrong thing. I could go on and on through the process of elimination. How about prescribed medications that may cloud your thinking? So you take Ambien to sleep but you have an Ambien groggy hangover when you are transcribing? Should they transcribe. How about your teens are on your last nerves and you take a Xanax? Should you be allowed to transcribe?
We have decided to add this to our current service not have a new service. It will be easier to sm

keep track of and will just be a different department. 


It looks like we will work out details over the next 6 months, talking with community college program directors as well as a few of the distance-learning course leaders to work on the recruiting end.


We will train current staff to mentor if they would like to do so and want to work in the office.


We are still working on production requirements, goals to set, pay, benefits and other fine details but we have 6 months to get it all in place with three months to pull it together after that with a tentative start date of 09/01/06.  We need to build the building as well, although that is already at the blueprint stage in a spot next to our current office. 


We did not want to cause flames and bashing by listing the company name as there are always so many negative people on this site, but we are national with over 200 transcriptionists, located outside of Chicago (40 miles west) and have the best team of transcriptionists around!


We will have an "official" announcement after the first of the new year. 


Thank you for all of your feedback and suggestions!


supposed to be, after people lose their jobs, they are forced to take part-time, lower-paying jobs..
with little to no benefits. service jobs. where are you going to work in a few years, when Medical Transcription is replaced by technology? McDonald's, Walmart? you really going to like that?
Several jobs on Monster & CareerBuilder for inhouse office jobs down there through an
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My telephone service is VOIP, but it s through my cable service, along with my cable internet. .
We have had VOIP for about a year now and I love it. I really can't tell a difference in traditional service, except the price. One of the best calls of my life was to Bellsouth to cancel our service!
You realize by doing that they're making more money & you're making less? You should reconsid

I am not asking for a service, I AM the service looking for recorders
nm
Two jobs very common, 3 jobs not unheard of.
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Yup! Not only short jobs, but also jobs from
extremely difficult dictators, bad sound files, jobs that need lots of ADT info added, and anything else that is not "easy" to do. I also questioned them about this and was told the same - they do not allow cherrypicking. Definitely not true!
58, AHP/self-taught, trained at hospital 5 years, now with 2 of my own accounts for 10 years, employ
Also worn out 2 keyboards in 4 years. I will never retire. DH will come home some day from work and I'll be slumped over my keyboard. I put in 14 hours a day 7 days a week.
Pack years = packs smoked per day x years of smoking - sm
25 pack-years = 25 years of 1 pack a day, or 12-1/2 years of 2 packs a day.

I don't think pack-years applies to someone who smokes only cigars. But I don't know for sure.
I worked for Cbay for 3 years. I was also part of their lay off back many years ago. sm
Even though I got stuck in a lay off era, I still love the company. They paid well then. The people were nice (exception of 1 person) and if I had the opportunity I would go back again. Fortunately (or unfortunately - depending on how u look at it), I have a great paying job right now, so I am not looking for a change. I do know that at one time, they asked management to accept late paychecks, but never sure of the reason why. My check was never late.
I know it used to be 5-10 years back, but the laws changed within the last 2 years. They can only g
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6 years legal then switched to medical 17+ years ago. sm

I don't mind doing legal and will do it now from time to time, but be prepared to be totally bored out of your mind.


At least that's the way I feel.  I love to transcribe, learned legal in college, went on to get my paralegal degree, etc., etc., but I did temp work when the kids were younger, which was about 90% medical and I would never go back to legal except for once in a while.


Booooooring.


 


 


Only 3 years away from reaching total years for retirement
but if I had to do this and raise a family, would feel exactly like you do. The pay is terrible compared to what I used to make. I work 32 hours a week, hope to be able to continue even after full retirement age. I have worked on VR now and unless places get to where they really do not care about how their reports look, think they will need MTs. I very seldom do a report and it is 100%, just cannot remember 1 like that and most take a lot more editing. Working now because want to, not have to anymore, thank goodness!!
It is a service job and they should
help parents with small children and also the elderly. I think a normal healthy person with "more than a bag or 2" should not have them help them out to the car. It causes the cashier to have to bag, therefore delaying the progression of the line.
PS on Cox service
Did anyone ever receive any surprise charges from Cox, as this is what I plan to use to offer online service to others, i.e., long distance, etc.?
Do you have your own service? I ask because
that it is possible, especially since she has some educational background in the medical field. I certainly would not waste money on an MT course in this day and age (at least not if I am gauging the career opportunities available to MTs by what is said on this board).

I am NOT saying that just anyone can sit down and type, and being an MT is as easy as that. We all know that it is not. However, I was able to break into the field almost seven years ago by having a mentor from a local transcription company (I am in GA too, btw). If you are planning to provide her with work and review her work, provide feedback, etc., then there is no reason why she cannot do it, unless she is just not cut out for it, which you would both know pretty quickly. If she is cut out for it, then it sounds like it could be a great opportunity for both of you, if you are wanting to grow your business. If you are not going to do this for her, she will likely have a really hard time finding a job, unless someone else is willing to do so, and if you are working for someone other than yourself, then you likely do not receive a high enough rate to be able to pay her a decent wage and still earn something for editing/mentoring. (Certainly not saying that you don't -- I obviously have no idea what you make, but not many people who are transcribing for others make enough to share that way :).)
My service is actually going to be (sm)

Comcast here in the next couple weeks.  Verizon is offering a 30-day free trial.  In the meantime I will keep my cable internet just in case I'm not happy with Verizon.  My cable internet service has been very frustrating for me, as far as not being available at least once a week for a couple of hours, always during my normal working hours.  So, I guess it's worth a try. 


ASP Service
Finally :-)I am negotiating with one doctor to be my direct client. For that I need some ASP service where he can dial in as toll free and I can get dictations thru FTP. Anyone please recommend some best ASP with minimum per line cost & reliable. Thx!