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I will quit also...I'm hoping to get into doing something else, such as medical billing/.coding

Posted By: AnnoyedMT on 2009-06-04
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There's medical coding and billing.
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medical billing or coding newbie

alliedschools.com


Has anyone tried either their medical billing or coding training courses??


Did you like it, would you recommend it?? I'm tired of working at a restaurant and would like to learn a career but I just want make sure that I am learning from a school that will actually lead me somewhere(specially that it cost 1600 dollars)


So please let me know what you think about them and if there is other schools that you will recomment over them!


 


Thanks


Does anyone know of a website, like this one, that deals with Medical Coding/Billing..sm

My husband is curious and wanting to get into Medical Billing/Coding and work from home like I do with transcription.  Does anyone know of a website, like this one, that offers so many jobs from home and information regarding coding and/or billing?  Thanks.  Also, if anyone has input on this please let us know.  Would love to find out which course is the best, etc....thanks!


I've thought about coding. My DH does medical coding and I think with an MT's medical termino

background and anatomy and physiology knowledge, a transition into coding wouldn't be hard at all.  From what I can tell by looking through my husband's books, an MT would have to learn insurance regulations and legalities.  We've basically got all the medical background down or we should be if we're worth our salt as an MT.


I even contacted AHIMA and found that the qualifications for taking the CCS or CCP coding exams are completion of the a coding program, RHIT program, or RHIA or related work experience.  Transcription is part of HIM, albeit the red-headed stepchild of the HIM department, but a part nonetheless and so satisfies the qualification of having work experience.


The test is tough though.  My husband didn't pass it his first time out and I think I read something like only 20% or so pass it the first time.  So it would probably be best to take some sort of formal coding class, in my opinion.


billing and coding
Does anyone know how much money is to be made with billing and coding? 
Med. coding and billing

Hi, I am currently a transcriber.  (leaving the field because as you all know this field is getting too ridiculous).  I am planning to attend a billing and coding school locally.  I was wondering if the hours vary for coding/billing or are the working hours typical 9-5 or 8-4, etc.    TIA


billing vs coding sm
I'm posting here because hardly anyone visits the billers & coders board.  Could someone tell me the difference between medical billing and medical coding?  I have the impression that the biller just inputs data already coded, etc. for insurance and the coder actually assigns the codes thus needs more indepth knowledge. Would being a medical biller help in becoming a medical coder?  Has anyone done either or both?  What is the pay range for each?  Thanks. 
MTs switched to billing/coding?

Curious whether there are any MTs out there, or anyone who knows info, on going into billing and coding...


I'm considering training for that in my spare time now, so that I have the opportunity later, if I decide to pursue that.  Are there a fair amount of work-at-home positions in billing and coding?  After my newbie days, I've never had trouble finding MT work with good companies, so I wondered if billing was as widespread, at home.  I haven't found nearly as much info out there on at-home billing, other than get-rich-quick scheming.  Anyone know if the pay is on a similar scale?  Opportunity for PT and FT, like MT?  Similarities and differences (not on the actual job, but work issues like benefits, flexibility, etc.)


Thanks for any help!


Why would billing/coding not be offshored?
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MT vs Coding/billing At Home?
I am trying to decide between medical transcription and billing/coding.  I am a SAHM and cannot work outside the house, I have small children at home and they won't be in school for another several years.  So I must have an at home job.  I haven't taken any courses yet, so I am trying to decide which road would be best.  I know with MT that MTec and Andrews are really good schools and you can work from home after their program.  Not sure of good schools for billing or coding, maybe Career Institute (I think that is the name).  Are there other good schools??  Can you find an at home job with either job route??  Any help would be wonderful!!  Thanks!
Besides, most coding is billing work. Any better possibilities? NM
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I guess they're hoping enoug people will quit
that it won't be a problem anymore!! Sigh.
What are the best at home medical billing courses out there?
Have a friend who is interested in training to become a medical biller/coder from home and I really have no idea where to tell her to start.  Can anyone help?
Tell your friend she is not likely to get medical billing job from home

I would venture to say 99.9% of medical offices use a computer system for their billing which has HCFA formatting and electronic submission built right in. It is pretty easy to do coding in the office setting too. In good conscience, could not recommend investing money in training for either field...


Medical coding

Use the link below that I wrote a few months ago.  It is a very honest review of today's coding needs and environment.  Good luck!


 


http://forum.mtstars.com/company/v/1/13589.html


Medical Coding
Hi, I've been an MT for 9-1/2 years working at home and am in need of a change.  Am looking for a good coding class that won't send me to the poor house and that you can actually FIND A JOB when certified.  Is that possible?  Does anyone know some good schools and how much experience you must have before you can work at home doing coding?  Thanks to anyone who replies.
Are any of you familiar with medical coding? - sm


Needing a better job than the one I've got, I've been spending my late nights searching the far reaches of the internet.  It seems the only MT jobs that will actually support a person are in-hospital jobs, and the few that still exist are rare, and difficult to find.  They're definitely not listed on our Job Board, that's for sure.  When I do find them, they all seem to be part-time, or too far away, or involve heavy phones.   Answering phones and transcription are NOT compatible activities!


So I keep seeing LOTS of ads for Coders.  Obviously that would mean school.  Ick.  Being the hater of school that I am, I would want to be sure that's what I wanted to do, so I thought I'd see what all of you think of Coding as an alternative to MT work.


-  Have any of you worked in coding before, or are you currently in school to learn that profession? 


-  How hard would it be for a late-middle-aged MT to learn? 


-  Do you think coding is worth spending time in school to learn?  (i.e., Decent pay, not about to be offshored, etc.)


-  If you've done it or are learning, do you LIKE it?  Is it interesting?  Tedious?  Stressful?  Boring?  Rewarding in any way?


-  Are you learning it on-site, or at home?  How many hours per day are you devoting to your studies?  How long does it take to get credentialled?


Thanks in advance for any input you may have on this subject!


 


I am completing a medical coding course with Andrews right now (sm)
and I highly recommend them. The tuition is steep, but they allow you to pay in monthly installments, so that makes it a lot easier. The quality of the course is excellent, and I really think I'll be able to pass the certification exams once I finish the course. The only complaint I have is that they are slow in responding to emails about tests, questions, etc., but other than that, I would recommend them. Good luck.
Go into coding more ## or the legal end of the medical for an attorney
JMO
Future of medical coding is good
Medical coding is very lucrative career. Medical coders are not only required in hospitals but also in pharma industry and clinical research. Know more about coding ..
http://medicalcodingindia.blogspot.com/
Is medical coding a dying profession like MT?
My income is in the crapper and keeps getting worse and worse. I love working at home, been doing it for over a decade, so looking into something I can do at home. So what about medical coding? Offshore problems? Technology advances pushing out the "real person" coder? Any disadvantages? Worth learning and getting into at this point?
Not-so-good news re: medical coding,
I was watching the news tonight (Sacramento, CA area), and there was a story about a lady who was looking for work.  She had spent $10,000 on a coding/billing education, but can't find work.  Apparently that field is "saturated", as the newscaster said.  (Maybe from lots of MTs trying to get into that?)  Anway, I had sort of been thinking about going to school to learn coding, but now I think I'll pass.
I should have specified, hospital inpatient coding and doc office coding are very different.
They follow different coding rules and an entirely different set of codes. I learned both while earning my B.S. in H.I.M., and both are challenging, though inpatient more so simply because there are more codes.
Honestly, you could get a job in a med rec dept without ANY certificate; some computer experience and your experience as an MT would get you in the door. It might just be doing chart assembly/completion, filing, etc., but there are certainly jobs in MR that don't require specific schooling. Then being in the dept you can really learn more about all the functions and pick the one you REALLY want to spend time, money, and effort on for additional schooling.
I quit once for 3 years, but then started again. (Quit cold turkey when I did)


I quit two months ago. I tried to quit for over a year, but I just had to be ready.
I tried the patch, NRT gum, Zyban, everything. One morning, I woke up and just quit cold turkey. There are some good online support groups out there that can help you when you're ready.
Anyone know if coding would pay as well as MT? Is coding being outsourced too?
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ALSO IF THEY WERE GOING TO QUIT SE, THEY WOULD QUIT ADVERTISING TO HIRE SE
And I have seen a new ad in the magazine Advance that has a sign on bonus for SE's, maybe just better pay, let's think positive!!
I am hoping to do this ..... sm
I want to do 1 or 2 small accunts. Getting ready to "pound the pavement." For the first time in a long time, I'm feeling excited about this profession again.

I decided I wanted to take control of my career to the best of my ability. I didn't want to continue complaining about the sludge I was getting thrown my way to type, the office politics, the disorganization.

I decided, as John Lennon used to say, "No problems, only solutions."

We'll see how it goes. Thankfully, for the most part, my income is a cushion income, so that helps.

I think with the handheld digitals it will be easier to do this than it used to be years ago.

This site and "other" site are chock-full of great information.

Good luck (to all of us adventurous souls)!


I'm hoping many will see it and think
a *fare* opportunity? Kind of says it all, doesn't it? lol
I was hoping Roddick would win, but
he made WAY too many errors!  Fedderer was definite good but Roddick could have returned a lot more than he did.....guess he had a bad day...unfortunately that does happen!!  I'm glad that Wimbledon at LEAST makes the players hold to the "white" clothing rule.....truly believe someone needs to do something about the obnoxious noises that some players feel are necessary for each and every stroke!  Give us all a break, please!!!  Have a good 4th!! 
Thank you! That was what I was hoping to hear.
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was hoping it would be a start though :(
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Thanks! I'm hoping to get the hang of it

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Well, maybe they are hoping beyond hope that your
position might be the kind that perhaps offers the equipment after all - if they like you on the interview. Or perhaps lease it.  That has happened to me on some jobs I have applied for. I am an awesome MT, though, with decades of experience, yet new to ICing, and not lots of $$ for equipment. I remember I didn't even know that a C-phone and a dictaphone were the same thing! Some jobs were kind and saw a good deal in me, so they helped out with the equipment. And they were more than rewarded by helping me out. Must be frustrating for you, but that's part of being your own business.
I like it. Depends on what you are hoping to get out of it.
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I agree, but I am hoping that it's...
Soul Patrol...yeah baby! Go TAYLOR!!!
Hoping for the best for you! I have a Smokey too!...nm
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Hoping they see the light!
I agree with you 100%. I have been in this line of work for over 30 years. (I started off making $3.23 an hour in 1975 (had no experience) and worked with the large belts on a Selectric typewriter. I have always LOVED this profession; however, over the years the stress has increased for me especially in the last three years.

I would like to be able to retire from this job, yet I worry constantly about our profession and my job just going away and what will I do then? I still work in a hospital and the way we are treated even has changed. Pencils only provided, no Kleenex along with the attitude that if we are not typing, we are not working and virtually have problems just getting up to go potty or take a much needed break.

The out-sourcing has really shocked this old gal and I don't really know about the quality of the work returned to comment on it. Does anyone know? I would be curious.

However, I am hoping and praying that one day, our MDs will say "ENOUGH!" Maybe, they will decide that paying for quality work and providing benefits, etc., far outweighs the cost savings benefit of outsourcing to other countries and sadly in companies in the United States also. When I think about the knowledge and dedication we put forth every day to produce quality work, it just really hurts that the hospitals and doctors don't want to pay benefits and pay for the best transcriptionists they can find.

Signed, The Dreamer.

Thanks D!! I was hoping that was the case! nm
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True, which is why I was hoping she could
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And I am hoping just the opposite of
VR being done away with. I love it, mine is an excellent platform and with all the ESLs we have now, I don't have to rack my brain to find out what they are trying to say. Thank goodness for VR and I hope the hospital I work for keeps it.
billing
Most hospitals pay vendors monthly as it comes from different account than their payroll.  You can spell out every 2 weeks in your contract, but don't be surprised if they change it.  Same with late fees -- many hospitals won't allow for them.   In my contracts I have it as payment is due within 10 calendar days of invoice date.  (be careful using just 'days' versus calendar days -- can really stretch it out with weekends and holidays if you don't).  Be prepared for occasional late payments as your invoice often goes through MANY hands before payment is made.  Your actual client usually has nothing to do with accounts payable department.  For the most part, unless you are lucky enough to have an actual person to contact in accounting, they really don't care how big/small you are or what your cashflow problems are -- you're just another vendor.  Usually once you are in their system, things go pretty smoothly. 
IC billing....sm
When I turn my bill in I now have to list each and every patient, whether it was a chart note, the number of lines and the amount charged. Let me tell you that is one long list. Does anyone else have to do that? This was just started in an office I have worked for for ten years! Thx for any input.
IC billing
I have to do that on a ledger but now what I do is keep the spreadsheet open on my computer and as soon as I finish typing the report, I enter the info. Isn't that bad. The office wants to do a cross check on the patients to be sure the doc dictated that particular patient and if not, they can tell the doc.
IC Billing
I use Abacus. I make a folder on my C-drive for each doc and when finished with the report, I save it to that particular folder. At billing time, I simply click on C-drive then "invoice" and all that info prints up. I have a template with all my particulars like my name, SS#, etc., copy and paste the info in my template and there you go. It literally takes me a couple of minutes to pull an invoice at billing time.
Also, hoping there is more work.... but guess what!
Just got up to start my shift 1 a.m.- and there is no work in the system?
Hoping doctors would read this, how to get thru to them?
IMO, they just don't really give a crap!  As for respect, that has to be earned.  I'm sorry but just because you are a doctor doesn't make you God and doesn't make you better than that poor Transcriptionist behind a keyboard!  I've been doing this stuff for 10 years and am at the end of my rope with these so-called professionals.  By the way, IMO, seems to me they're getting worse at dictation.  These whippersnappers getting their degrees now can't even make a decent sentence; singulars for pleurals as in "there is no murmurs, gallops or rubs," or "conjunctiva is clear" emphasizing the word "is" when the patient obviously has both eyes, but I'm told to transcribe verbatim, and that's what I have to type, makes no sense to me, but they got it.  Docs who couldn't or won't pronounce a drug correctly if it killed them and don't even care to, English a second language whether foreign or not.  If docs really cared at all, just a little bit, they would slow down enough,  not slur, not eat, stop it with the sucking in ________ (enter your own word for it) cause it makes me absolutely ill the sickening sounds they make with their sinuses, or burp, just talk to me as if I was the patient sitting there, so that I can understand them without making me sick, a nervous wreck, a detective, a pharmacist, a mindreader, or drive me crazy for my few cents a line.  Then you got QA who is on another high and mighty jaunt.  That's another story.  Just sick of the whole job.  Can't wait to retire!  Just my two cents worth...
Thanks for that great info. This is what I was hoping
from my current MTSO. I was looking at another company that requires their ICs to have this insurance. I guess the grass isn't always greener.........
Hoping companies will get their VPN, etc. compatible soon.
Vista is so smart and fast -- at least my computer is !
Hoping, that sounds like a strange way to SM
get fast. Where did you read it? I have to say it sounds like a big waste of time.

Back in the old Selectric typewriter days my friend typed an amazing 140 WPM with very few mistakes, but no amount of watching her sped my clumsy, badly coordinated fingers up. After years of experience I probably eventually did about 75 with lots of mistakes.

With intensive use of an expander, tho, which I recommend over any other method to get fast, I now easily beat that old seemingly-forever-unreachable 140wpm standard (but I prefer not to think what her count must be with one.)

Also, when I'm working "in the groove," I know I'm as fast as I can be, so I'd also suggest researching methods for reducing distractions and whatever else it takes to settle down and concentrate.

And something I've never done--learn to the get most from your programs.

Boring, "same old" type of advice, I know.
also Hoping...speed comes with experience...
nobody starts off fast because we do have to learn new dictators, research, et cetera...but once you are a bit more experienced I bet the speed part will follow right along...don't give up!!!