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Meat in your diet?

Posted By: Romey on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: After watching this - animal advocate

That is a misconception that we need meat in our diets, we do not need meat at all, there are many other sources of protein out there to substitute for the meat, please go to the many vegitarian sites for more information.


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Not sure about the changes to the factory farming, but the changes most anti-factory farming people want is to get people to eliminate meat from their diet, thus ending the need for these farms. Each person doing their small part, makes a big difference in the long run. I was a big carnivore, cannot believe I am a vegitarian now, still lots and lots of food to eat, a little limited when dining out, but not really, even the restaurants are catering to the vegitarians more and more each day. Give it a try, you won't regret it.
it is not wrong to eat meat

and that comes from God's own word.  It is not unhealthy either, done in moderation. Our ways of growing or cooking the meat may be unhealthy, no doubt esp combined with lack of exercise. and yes, it is wrong to be cruel to animals.  Much of our problem is based on mass production, which is now the 'norm'.  We have all but eliminated the small farms in favor of this mass production.  Small farms don't need to have cesspools of waste, they don't stink and the animals live a natural pleasant life as intended. But when we go to using feedlots, and finish the beef out, for example, with grain, which is unnatural to their digestive system (starting the grain has to be done methodically and gradually or it kills them), we create different physical reactions in the meat which I believe has caused ill health in humans (along with the unnecessary vetting).  Yes, the chicken farms and slaughter houses etc are managed terribly, nasty and mostly with inhumane operations.  How to avoid this and still eat meat?  Seek out those who raise range-fed chickens (a natural environment), or raise beef that are not given growth hormones or unnecessary routine antibiotics. You will never have mad cow disease for example on purely grass-fed beef. These growers are around.  I have a nephew in MO who offers this alternative.  We ourselves used to offer such in the way of chicken -- these "natural farmers" generally struggle to make a living, but if you want healthy meat, want an alternative to mass production, seek them out. 


Yuck, I don't eat red meat, but (sm)

do eat some chicken for more protein.  Also eat lots of fruit with cottage cheese and lots of green, leafy vegetables.  Also, a way to get more protein is nuts, like cashews or almonds and feta cheese with your salads.


For lunch today is pasta with some cheese biscuits with garlic salt, also a green salad with feta cheese.  Melons with cottage cheese for a snack.  No meat at all and I don't miss it!  You get used to it.


meat loaf
Next time you make meat loaf, make it your regular way, put half mixture in loaf pan, take a can of green chilies....put pieces of pepper-jack cheese in each chile and close them. Add top layer of mixture, cook as you usually do. You'll love it!
And, the meat in the grocery store comes
I believe that if you buy "beef" it comes from cows, an animal. I believe if you buy "chicken" it comes from chickens, an animal.
first was no meat, then vegetarian, now trying vegan...
although, I am not obsessive about it all...

no animal has to suffer for me.

I do have to cook meat for my boyfriend, but as I said I am not a fanatic. I try to buy local meat and use chickens (and eggs) that are not from electric cages, or that have not been fed steroids, antibiotics, etc.
Imitation crab meat.
I know, I know - yuck, but hey, I'm a guy. I don't know how to cook!
ditto. too much water boils the meat.
read recipes for crock pots.
I'm a vegetarian so not buying meat saves,
but also, the more *fixed* food is, the more expensive it is - for example, if I want soup, I buy the ingredients and make it myself, plus it tastes better and isn't loaded with garbage I don't need like salt and fat.

I don't buy extras - candles have been out for a long time - I have a few in case of power failure, but nothing fancy. I don't have a cell phone, or anything other than basic TV. I buy clothes at thrift stores (which is actually a lot of fun), and I never hang out at malls - impulse buying is out.

Get an extra plastic bottle and pour half your shampoo into it, then fill with water. Most people use way too much shampoo, conditioner, etc - dilute w/water - does the same job and lasts way longer.

If you will search around the web with Google, you can come up with hundreds of ways to save money - most of us buy stuff we don't need simply because we are lazy or we think our every desire needs to be gratified.

It's mostly just excess baggage; it is amazing how good it feels to not need *stuff* to feel good.

the potpourri idea is fabulous!!, plus don't forget the wonderful scent of herbs you can grow yourself to mix with the cinnamon, etc.

Good luck and have fun!
oops! meant meat cutter.
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meat loaf, Mrs.T's pierogies, beets
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Stove Top Dressing Meat loaf
with home made smashed potatoes, gravy and brussel sprouts....tomorrow night, sketti and meatballs, made with the extra Stove Top mixture.
And where exactly do you think that the meat in the grocery store comes from?? ANIMALS!
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Meat cooking is harder, IMHO
Remebering my childhood as an animal eater, I think it is harder cooking for meat eaters and way more expensive than vegetarian foods.
Try the meat baby foods by Gerber.
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That is making ends meet, not meat by the way.
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Please don't flame me, but I'm glad somebody eats meat. That's how my husband supports us,
cutter. I do think that everyone has the right to make the choice whether to eat meat or not. Some days I want meat really bad, and other days I can do without it. I'm glad that I live in a country where I can make the choice for myself and everyone else can make their own choice, too.
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Meat loaf, mashed potatoes, beef gravy, fried okra.
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Okay! So much for my diet! I'm going to try it!
  Sounds yummy!
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Funny you asked that because with my medical background, I know that what you eat can have a big influence on how you feel. I also have hypoglycemia so I should be eating well.

I honestly do not have an appetite. I didnt eat anything at all yesterday and the day before I ate 4 chicken nuggets from Wendys.

This morning I feel a little hungry so I will probably eat some rice and black beans. I have that and oatmeal. Its cheap and filling.

I used to eat like crazy... now I don't eat at all. I used to get sick when I felt kind of dizzy from not eating after a few hours. Now I've gotten used to the feeling and having really low blood sugar makes it hard for me to concentrate on one thing but I can't get food stamps because I don't have any kids or anything. All well... Anyway, that's what I've been eating.
I just make like a meat loaf mixture with egg, cracker crumbs, salt, pepper, egg and milk. SM
Form into patties, cook with some chopped or sliced onions, then add an envelope of gravy mix and water, cook a few minutes. Easy, you can add other stuff or use canned gravy. Enjoy!
try a low sodium diet

When I was first diagnosed, I went on a strict 2 gm sodium diet.  It is amazing how much salt is in foods.  My ENT gave me a small booklet I could fit in my pocket to carry around with me to count sodium.  It reduced the amount of fluid in my ears, which lessened the vertigo and the tinnitis.  The shocking part was that I lost 20 pounds without trying!  I never went hungry at all.  I felt better than I had in years.


I have also found that keeping my sinuses clear helps with a lower level of tinnitis.  Wine intensifies it


good luck,


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I have never tried the diet, but I know lots who

have, including my DH.  I have never known anyone to keep the weight off once they come off the diet.  While there have been various studies as to healthiness/unhealthiness of the diet, I don't see how eating high fat foods came be healthy.  I do know that the diet throws your body into a ketosis, which gives you terrible breath.  When my DH was on the diet I asked him not to talk while in the car because his breath smelled so bad.  He worked with a woman who said she wondered why people would back away from her when she talked.


I think low carb is a good idea, but I don't think high fat is a good idea.  I'm not a nutritionist, just makes sense. 


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Liquid diet for 1 to 2 months?!
I don't think I could do it for 1 to 2 days, let alone that long?!