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ditto. too much water boils the meat.

Posted By: me on 2005-08-07
In Reply to: roast beef - nn

read recipes for crock pots.


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Another veg head here, but I cook meat for my men. Just make sure my eats don't have meat broth o
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Water here, too. I fill water bottles halfway and freeze them
so I have ice water for the entire day.  It's easier than trying to cram ice cubes down the little mouths of the bottles.  I confess to having coffee, Earl Grey tea and a cola today because I'm too tired from the idiots who were rodding their cars around in front of the house from midnight until 3:00 a.m. last night.  Oh, well.  At least I'm off today.
Boils down to this

It boils down to the fact that they don't mind the mess, the chaos and they know you will pick it up and make it nice.  Going on strike only helps if it takes away something that they like,  but if all it does is create more of a mess or chaos, you will suffer that much more.  You really have to talk to everyone, this is a common problem.   They just know from years of experience that you will finally give up, they can continue to surf the net, play video games, watch movies and not lift a finger and they will still be taken to games, dance lession, have their meals cooked, their clothes washed, etc.  Why should they change, it is great for them right now.  You have to make it change by not having it great for them now and when they pitch in and help they get rewards.   Like Dr. Phil says, take away everything except for the bare necessities, a mattress on the floor, food on the table and they earn the extras by doing things and being a family member and all working as a team.   Also praise them when they do something, though it is not 100% great, remember how you felt when you worked so hard at cleaning and your Mom said, it was just all right and okay.  I used to shut off the TV and we all took however long it took  to completely pick everything up at night so that when we went to bed and got back up at least the house started out pretty picked up.  That helped a lot.  Soon after repetition they got in the habit of putting things away as it meant not so much to pick up at night and it did not take away that last 30 minute of the show that they were watching.  But I enforced it and they knew it.  They also had chores that needed to be done especially on vacation and if they were not done, they lost a favorite TV show or something and had to do it during that time.   And, yes I worked at home.  It took a lot on my part in the beginning but it did pay off.  But it takes consistency and not being somewhat strict at first.  Now daughter in laws and son in laws and roommates thank me for it.  It was just simple little things but sure helped to keep things up. 


Basically, it boils down to this....
Back in the day, we were seduced!

Now we're being raped.
MTIA...we want you certified, or you won't work. That's what it boils down to.

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Eat less meat or no meat
Lots of beans, tofu shakes, whole-grain cereals, rice and breads, green and other veggies.  Meat is expensive, especially if you're feeding several. Cut back on carbonated drinks, also not good for you.. 
meat is not for me
I have been a vegetarian since 1979.  I did it for ethical reasons and because I dont eat anything that had a face.  The smell and look of meat makes me sick to my stomach. 
meat
Not sure about the changes to the factory farming, but the changes most anti-factory farming people want is to get people to eliminate meat from their diet, thus ending the need for these farms. Each person doing their small part, makes a big difference in the long run. I was a big carnivore, cannot believe I am a vegitarian now, still lots and lots of food to eat, a little limited when dining out, but not really, even the restaurants are catering to the vegitarians more and more each day. Give it a try, you won't regret it.
Meat in your diet?
That is a misconception that we need meat in our diets, we do not need meat at all, there are many other sources of protein out there to substitute for the meat, please go to the many vegitarian sites for more information.
it is not wrong to eat meat

and that comes from God's own word.  It is not unhealthy either, done in moderation. Our ways of growing or cooking the meat may be unhealthy, no doubt esp combined with lack of exercise. and yes, it is wrong to be cruel to animals.  Much of our problem is based on mass production, which is now the 'norm'.  We have all but eliminated the small farms in favor of this mass production.  Small farms don't need to have cesspools of waste, they don't stink and the animals live a natural pleasant life as intended. But when we go to using feedlots, and finish the beef out, for example, with grain, which is unnatural to their digestive system (starting the grain has to be done methodically and gradually or it kills them), we create different physical reactions in the meat which I believe has caused ill health in humans (along with the unnecessary vetting).  Yes, the chicken farms and slaughter houses etc are managed terribly, nasty and mostly with inhumane operations.  How to avoid this and still eat meat?  Seek out those who raise range-fed chickens (a natural environment), or raise beef that are not given growth hormones or unnecessary routine antibiotics. You will never have mad cow disease for example on purely grass-fed beef. These growers are around.  I have a nephew in MO who offers this alternative.  We ourselves used to offer such in the way of chicken -- these "natural farmers" generally struggle to make a living, but if you want healthy meat, want an alternative to mass production, seek them out. 


Yuck, I don't eat red meat, but (sm)

do eat some chicken for more protein.  Also eat lots of fruit with cottage cheese and lots of green, leafy vegetables.  Also, a way to get more protein is nuts, like cashews or almonds and feta cheese with your salads.


For lunch today is pasta with some cheese biscuits with garlic salt, also a green salad with feta cheese.  Melons with cottage cheese for a snack.  No meat at all and I don't miss it!  You get used to it.


meat loaf
Next time you make meat loaf, make it your regular way, put half mixture in loaf pan, take a can of green chilies....put pieces of pepper-jack cheese in each chile and close them. Add top layer of mixture, cook as you usually do. You'll love it!
Purina! ACCHH!! Purina grinds up and boils the

dead dogs and cats, complete with flea collars, tags, anything - from the kill shelters and labs! Google dog food and ingredients - you might be shocked, or else you know and don't mind. I am assuming you aren't aware, as you posted it in response to boycotting Iams. Any pet food producers save for the ones who specifically use holistic ingredients, use recycled dead animals, road kill, slaughter house rejected sick or down animals, etc. This is why so many of our dogs have allergies and illnesses. For instance, if a dog gets euthanized at a vet cause its sick and dying, and it was on thyroid meds til its death - those bodies get saved - if the owners don't take the dog home and bury it - these bodies are all collected by processors, who then melt them down in a chemical vat - flea collars, leashes, medicines in their blood stream, whatever. Then when all these animals, a.k.a. ingredients are liquid ooze, they make them into kibbles. The companies like Purina, etc., then coat some with special enticing flavors, like Gravy Train, which are really more liquified animals, and there ya go! A complete cycle of food/dog/food/dog. This is not maniacal rumor - if interested, just read up on the articles by vets, etc. My dogs LOVE Purina - don't get me wrong, but I can't bring myself to feed it to them anymore. Its such an evil industry - just like so many others in the USA - greedy and not up front. If we all knew for sure what we were giving our beloved pets, we'd never even put the bag in our car! I feed my dogs Wellness or Merricks', or Blue Buffalo, and the difference in their health, energy, allergies is AMAZING. I have yellow labs prone to ear things and hot spots - all gone since the garbage dog food. All these allergies and skin things are suposed to be the toxins from this horrible dog food working their way out of the dog's system. And, by the way, each batch of regular dog food is different - because each batch of dead animal ingredients is different - think about Mad Cow - same start, really. Gotta go! Bye!


And, the meat in the grocery store comes
I believe that if you buy "beef" it comes from cows, an animal. I believe if you buy "chicken" it comes from chickens, an animal.
first was no meat, then vegetarian, now trying vegan...
although, I am not obsessive about it all...

no animal has to suffer for me.

I do have to cook meat for my boyfriend, but as I said I am not a fanatic. I try to buy local meat and use chickens (and eggs) that are not from electric cages, or that have not been fed steroids, antibiotics, etc.
Imitation crab meat.
I know, I know - yuck, but hey, I'm a guy. I don't know how to cook!
I'm a vegetarian so not buying meat saves,
but also, the more *fixed* food is, the more expensive it is - for example, if I want soup, I buy the ingredients and make it myself, plus it tastes better and isn't loaded with garbage I don't need like salt and fat.

I don't buy extras - candles have been out for a long time - I have a few in case of power failure, but nothing fancy. I don't have a cell phone, or anything other than basic TV. I buy clothes at thrift stores (which is actually a lot of fun), and I never hang out at malls - impulse buying is out.

Get an extra plastic bottle and pour half your shampoo into it, then fill with water. Most people use way too much shampoo, conditioner, etc - dilute w/water - does the same job and lasts way longer.

If you will search around the web with Google, you can come up with hundreds of ways to save money - most of us buy stuff we don't need simply because we are lazy or we think our every desire needs to be gratified.

It's mostly just excess baggage; it is amazing how good it feels to not need *stuff* to feel good.

the potpourri idea is fabulous!!, plus don't forget the wonderful scent of herbs you can grow yourself to mix with the cinnamon, etc.

Good luck and have fun!
oops! meant meat cutter.
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meat loaf, Mrs.T's pierogies, beets
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Stove Top Dressing Meat loaf
with home made smashed potatoes, gravy and brussel sprouts....tomorrow night, sketti and meatballs, made with the extra Stove Top mixture.
And where exactly do you think that the meat in the grocery store comes from?? ANIMALS!
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Meat cooking is harder, IMHO
Remebering my childhood as an animal eater, I think it is harder cooking for meat eaters and way more expensive than vegetarian foods.
Try the meat baby foods by Gerber.
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That is making ends meet, not meat by the way.
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ditto and double ditto
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Please don't flame me, but I'm glad somebody eats meat. That's how my husband supports us,
cutter. I do think that everyone has the right to make the choice whether to eat meat or not. Some days I want meat really bad, and other days I can do without it. I'm glad that I live in a country where I can make the choice for myself and everyone else can make their own choice, too.
Orchiette, home-made meat sauce, salad, YUM!

Meat loaf, mashed potatoes, beef gravy, fried okra.
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Why not provide the meat and have every bring a side dish, appy, or dessert? You're looking at to
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I just make like a meat loaf mixture with egg, cracker crumbs, salt, pepper, egg and milk. SM
Form into patties, cook with some chopped or sliced onions, then add an envelope of gravy mix and water, cook a few minutes. Easy, you can add other stuff or use canned gravy. Enjoy!
WATER and MORE WATER
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A water gun would and should get a kid SM

disciplined, IMO. It's a toy and should stay home and not come to school.


At my grandson's daycare they get kicked out for making guns out of Legos! No guns in school anywhere, any time, any shape, form or fashion.


Lord, we made bazookas out of big sticks, rifles out of smaller ones, and handguns out of little bent ones. Then we proceeded to kill each other all over the place - the difference is that we didn't do it when we grew up.


Coffee and a big cup of ice water so far...nm
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Yes, and that same jug of water costs how much after it's
been paid for with tax dollars, hauled in on trucks, and handed out by National Guardsmen and FEMA workers who are being paid and are away from their own families? That little jug of water costs more to the taxpayers than Perrier.
yes, and running water too.
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The largest end goes in the water. nm
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water mark
try rubbing cigar ash into the watermark
Don't put in dishwasher, water gets too hot, but you

can wash in the tub or shower.   I've washed mine 3 times in the shower.  I don't use anything, just hot water and run over it a few times, let it sit for a bit and then run water again to get anything really sticky off.  I then shake it upside down really good and then place it upside down on a towel near a vent to dry.  It takes me 3 days to get it dried out good.  I've used it in 2 days and kept getting errors, so let it dry a third day and no problems. 


You can take a warm damp cloth and wipe over the keyboard. I would suggest unplugging it from the computer so you don't reprogram something.  I also take an index card and run it down between the keys.  You'd be surprised how much dust/animal hair you get out.  I also turn my keyboard over and thumb it a couple of times on my tray and that gets out a lot of crumbs.


 


lots of water before eating
I haven't tried this myself, but I recently read an article about two very overweight men who lost tons of weight (not quickly, but gradually).  Both exercised every day, starting off with very little and gradually working it up, and one of them said he also drank something like a liter of water before each meal, which filled up his stomach so he got full fast and it really helped him cut back on how much he was eating.  I thought it sounded logical.
I really wish I could make myself drink more water..
but as a hazard of being a southern girl, I drink tea all day like it's going out of style
Freezing water in bottles
It's great that you drink ice water, but I read that freezing water in plastic bottles leaches chemicals from the plastic into your water (potential cancer cause). Better to use those new ice cube trays that make finger-shaped ice cubes!
chug a glass of water
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doesn't have both oars in the water
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He doesn't have both oars in the water. nm
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Your argument does not hold water.
A hurricane in those areas of Texas may indeed have never been so far inland, but that's the nature of natural disasters. For 4 years now Homeland Security has been trying to drill it into the minds of the American people that you need to be prepared for ANYTHING. Maybe next time it will be a terrorist hit. Maybe an earthquake along New Madrid. Don't you believe your survival should be dependent on yourself? Or do you expect the govt to swoop in and take care of it for you? The sheeple need to wake up. Get prepared and stay prepared!
I drink only unsweetened tea or water...
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Have you ever made those water candles?
When I was a young teenager, we would make the water candles in a bucket of water. Got burned more than I care to think about. Made some pretty awesome-looking candles though!
Holy cow, wonder what is in that poor cat's water??
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How is THAT warm water? hmmm? LOL..nm
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sorry but reaons don't hold water...

"Leasing also allows you to get more car for the money "  nooooo...leasing allows you to drive more car than you can actually afford. It's a version of living beyond your means.


"Lease payments are much lower than buying"  talk about needing instant gratification!  Leasing per mile is always more expensive than ownership. You forget, at the end of the lease, you give the car back. At the end of the same $$ spent in car payments, you could sell the car and get MONEY back.


"You will always have a car payment (which we would anyway)." And you will always live paycheck to paycheck, but then maybe you would anyway!


"Always be within warranty and only pay for gas and basic maintenance." There's other ways to do this. You can buy a car and trade it in every five years and only pay for gas, maintenance and be within warranty.


"Then again, you will always have a new car" - yea, that someone else owns, not you.


Not flaming, but the rationale behind some of these comments just burns me up. Buying a new car from a dealer is the worse way to do it - except leasing a new car from a dealer. For Pete's sake, think about it! Obviously they are making a ton of money off of you-- otherwise they wouldn't do it!!!


Save your money, watch for a cream puff in the classifieds, buy something with 30,000 miles or less, with cash. Then you can laugh all the way to your garage.


Just to mention why I think I'm in a position to give this advice? We own our home free and clear (7 years old, worth $500,000), own 2 cars and a truck that's paid for. Our latest vehicle is a 2002 Toyota Tacoma pick up. $33,000, paid $14,500 cash for it.  Have over 200,000 in our IRA's. And guess what. I'm an MT and he's a machinist. No corporate paychecks here. There's a way to manage your money, or your money will manage you.


What kind of water damage is what I would like to know sm..
Was it leaking from basement walls into basement or did someone leave water running and cause a flood, or was it sewer backup, or what is a natural flood?  Any kind of water damage really stinks!!  We had the unfortunate situation happen to us years ago when their was flooding all around us, but we did fine, that is, until the sewer system backed up into our basement about 4 feet high!  This was so gross, I don't think I'll ever get over it, however, we had it professionally cleaned and disinfected and threw EVERYTHING out, so hopefully that solved any health issues, so we are told.  Anyway, we invested $600 into a backup valve so that it will never happen again.  I have wanted to move ever since just because it was so gross and I can't get the image out of my head, but 4 years later, we are still here, kids and all.  So, the moral of the story I am trying to get at is this....they were supposed to be upfront and honest about the water damage problem and they were not, which leads me to believe that they have something to hide.  Therefore, you should potentially be able to get any money back because of this if you can prove that it was withheld information on the contract.  If you just love the house that much, go ahead with the inspection and find out what kind of water damage it was.  If it checks out with inspector, I would strongly suggest you have it professionally cleaned/disinfected to be safe, and expect it to maybe happen again and consider that thoroughly.  Personally, if we ever go to sell this house, I will be up front about it because even though we seemed to have fixed the problem, it is very possible it can happen again.  Hope this all makes sense.  Good luck.