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Panic attack and kids' fathers

Posted By: Been There on 2005-12-05
In Reply to: Update - OP

I feel your pain about arguing with your daughter's father. My ex-husband is a control-freak jerk who is still trying to control everything my daughter and I do, even 10+ years later!! Unfortunately, my daughter has some health issues and her dad wants to be able to "approve" any medications the doctor prescribes before I give them to her! This is the guy who has seen his daughter for a total of about six hours in the last four months - ridiculous!


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Panic attack - SM
My daughter used to have them (started at about age 14) to the point where it was absolutely debilitating.  We had a really rough year.  Her family doctor wanted her to take antidepressants, which she tried and that was a nightmare in and of itself.  I finally took her to an MD who was a hypnotherapist.  Not one single panic attack after the first session.  This was 4 years ago.  I truly believe this doctor saved her life.
I have a panic attack
just thinking about it.
Hyperventilating/Panic Attack
I just had a panic attack and was hyperventilating.  Should I go to the doctor?  No insurance. 
You are the exception, not the rule, when it comes to kids w/o fathers.
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What I'm doing is making sure that come Fathers Day, I forget to get him something! sm
I ALWAYS have made sure that my kids give their dads (two DS from hubby 1 and one DS from this one).....XH and I div'd in 93 and they ALWAYS had at least a card for him. Now CH (current) has never gotten me any card or anything for Mother's Day but we always have something for father's day. I will just very conspicuously forget Fathers day this year.
The bible also states it is okay for fathers to sleep with their daughters. You are limiting

Panic attacks. Please sm.
I used to suffer from these on a daily basis. According to my doc at that time, they are usually brought on by a conscious or even subconscious stressor.

First thing? Be sure it was a panic attack and not something else. Yes, see a doc. I know others will disagree, and that's fine, but you asked and that is my 2 cents. No one.....not even the docs.....can diagnose over the phone or via internet.

The first rule is to make sure there is nothing physically causing this.
panic attacks since 1997
Doctors are a waste. You'll go thru dozens w/no outcome. What is necessary is this: Find the stressor(s) and eliminate. Minimize your life. Al-Anon or other group meetings are highly effective: Need new lifestyle/change in thinking, deal w/wreckage of past, deal with fears, obsessive thinking. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF FIRST AND FOREMOST. Hope this helped.
I can symphathize with you panic, but even on Xanax,
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Hmmm, maybe that's why I was offered a job in a panic nm
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Um, I'm sorry, but I did not attack anyone...sm

I simply made a statement regarding what I feel is MORE important...I am entitled to my own opinion, and no it doesn't have to conform with YOURS or anyone else's for that matter...In general, animals have more rights than children...people are more passionate when it comes to animals than they are when it comes to children.  That's a fact and I'm sorry that it is that way.


I, on the other hand, am not a bleeding heart animal rights activist.  Yes, this is a horrible story and no, I do not agree that it should be happening, BUT I also do not agree that right here in our very own country hundreds of thousands of children are abused, even killled every day and it's just a thang...forgive me for ruffling any feathers...or fur...or whatever I might have ruffled in the animal lovers kingdom...


Above: they can only attack during
:P
What was the name of the attack?
... did you get a rebooting prompt over and over?  What did moderator say what it was?
She didn't attack anyone
except a selfish MTSO who is so unsure of her principals that she won't even identify herself.  YOU and people like yourself who want to justify using this "slave labor" are the enemy to the MT world - Not the MTs.
Right here, and don't attack the messenger when you don't like it.

America and the Poor...


Wednesday, September 14, 2005


By Bill O'Reilly



America and the poor, that is the subject of this evening's “Talking Points Memo.”


The aftermath of Katrina has produced a debate over poor Americans. There are about 37 million people living below the poverty line right now. The issue was described this way by Newsweek (search) reporter Evan Thomas (search), a liberal guy but not alone, who writes, "Liberals will say [the authorities] were indifferent to the plight of poor African-Americans. It is true that Katrina laid bare society's massive neglect of its least fortunate."


Massive neglect? Let's take a look at that bit of overstatement. Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower.


In 1996, the Clinton budget allotted $191 billion for poverty entitlements. That was 12.2 percent of the budget and a whopping amount of money. That's why Bill Clinton (search) was called the first black president by some.


However, the Bush 2006 budget allots a record shattering $368 billion for poverty entitlements, 14.6 percent of the entire budget, a huge increase over Clinton's spending on poverty entitlements.


Did the elite media mention that? Jesse Jackson (search) mention that? Of course they didn't, because it's much more convenient for Evan Thomas and others to imply America under President Bush has turned its back on the poor, but it's absolute nonsense.


Even in the midst of the war on terror, this country's spending a massive amount of money trying to help the poor. So why the lie? Because political gain can be made off the suffering of others, that's why.


Those who oppose the Bush administration don't care about the truth. They only want to advance their own agenda. So once again, the no- spin zone rides to the rescue.


Hard-working Americans are providing the poor with Medicaid, food stamps, supplemental security income, that's free money, child nutrition programs, welfare payments, child daycare payments, temporary assistance to needy families, foster care, adoption assistance, and health insurance for children.


But it will never be enough for the Jesse Jacksons and Howard Deans of the world, never. They told you the truth. They'd go out of business.


Now I fully expect to be attacked by the far left media for telling you all this. I'm sure they will label me a racist, a shill for Bush, stuff like that, but I don't care. The dollars don't lie. We are a generous nation. And that is the truth. And that is “The Memo.”


That is not a "panic attack". Please sm.
You obviously need someone to talk to. You are experiencing a great amount of stress. I (and I think most all of us) can understand that.

With a true panic attack, and, I cannot say this enough times, you think you are going to DIE. THEN AND THERE.

What you are going thru is extreme stress. Okay? And, that's not easy; please don't take my words to mean anything less. But, you have not experienced a true panic attack.

Believe me, if you do, you will not be posting on the internet asking for advice. You won't think that you have time. You will honestly, thoroughly, undoubtedly believe you are dying.
Anxiety attack maybe
I have read some of the other posts and yours. It sounds to me like maybe an anxiety attack, but not a panic attack. Panic attackes are usually more severe like those others have explained. I have anxiety attacks where I cannot catch my breath and cannot talk. My mom has suffered two panic attacks that were much different and more severe. One landed her in an ambulance. Panic attacks are like others have said you feel like you are dying. Those around you may suspect a heart attack or that you are dying when you are actually having a panic attack. My mom did not know where she was or who anybody was. She could not speak or breath clearly. She could not move either. I can understand not having insurance. I have been there. I would monitor if it happens again and when you are able to go see a doctor. We have a discount clinic in our town so maybe you can check into that. They charge a cheaper office visit fee.
I didn't mean it as an attack, and sorry if it
came across as that. To me, it seems like a question from someone who doesn't understand the MT field and the absolute necessity of not making errors. QA scores are often based on the gravity of the error - minor, major, impacting patient care, etc. Usually MTs who question how their error could possibly impact patient care just don't get it - to them, an error is just a minor thing, and, after all, we're only human, so it shouldn't be held against MTs, etc. So I obviously incorrectly jumped to the conclusion that you were questioning how an MT error could really be life threatening to a patient! My bad.
don't attack her re self absorbed....sm
From a very early age, all kids understand deals and contracts.  Mom wants something done....kids want things - it becomes a deal.  I've had 150% success with this understanding over 25 years.  Being a mom may be a selfless situation, but success CAN be gleaned with deals and contracts. 
excuse me, but I did not attack
you when you disagree. I have the same right to an opinion as anybody else and the right to express them as do you, which I am very much afraid is fast disappearing from this country with our other rights. But having seen some of your other posts, I can't help but wonder if you just always take the adverse view in the name of an argument. But that, also, is your right and I have 2 sons who served their country for you to have it. I do think if I were in HER house, I would go by their home rules, but, she just walked into mine and no, she does not pay for any of our rights we take so for granted. Maybe while we are all here screaming at each other, we will be much too busy to pay attention to anything that may be really important. So I will accept the fact we will agree to disagree and leave it at that.
I was thinking next year on 06/06/06 they are going to attack us again.
I wonder if this day has any significance in London as our 9/11 was significant. It's an evil world filled with satanic people. Not just this but look at the crimes of Americans against Americans in Idaho, etc.
Carb attack for dinner
I know you all will think this is horrible but it was one of my faves from grade school.  Canned ravioli and mashed potatoes.  Can anyone say carb overload???  lol.
Carb attack all day long....
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Just about had a heart attack, my doc sent me my check -sm
and instead of it being $78 it was $780, thought maybe a bonus?  But figured that could not be the case so I called, and sure enough they had a new person doing the checks and she goofed, boy big goof.  She say she caught one to me last time that was $1000, supposed to be $100 (very small account obviously).  I just hope she is not doing this to their vendors because someone might not be nice and just run with the money. 
Do little kids like caramel? My big kids won't even eat it! We make the basic Baker's chocolat
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Transient Ischaemic Attack (accident)
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You are a hypocrit. You attack me for my position and then say you have a right to yours. Typical.
I did not attack anyone, just stated an opinion.  You have been up and down this thread attacking every single person for posting something you don't like.  Talk about pot-kettle-black.  LOL!!!  Well, my last post to you. You are seriously cyberderanged. 
You'd give a heart attack to everybody I know down south here. lol. sm
It is just not done. I don't know how close the friends are that will be invited, but if I were you I'd just get people to spread the word somehow that you don't want gifts. Lord, my grandmother would roll over in her grave.
A 20 y/o who suddenly just died of a heart attack? Seems odd.
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Their attack on non-CMT's is a pretty good barometer
Of COURSE they're gonna say they'd rather have their medical records typed in India. The main source of wealth is coming from promoting offshore transcription, and from conning offshore MT's into buying into their phone credentialling system. If they're so 'pro-MT', then why have they been so instrumental in moving so much of it out of the US?
What a load of bull they're feeding everyone.
I never said you shouldn't have kids! Feeling guilty? I asked WHY you had kids.
You clearly stated in your post that you ship the kids off to camp all day, and they're TIRED AT NIGHT!!  You know exactly what you said.  You said it as a PERK - AS IN GREAT! They're gone all day, it wears them out, and so I shovel dinner in their mouths and off to bed!  You can try to paint it any way you want, but YOU SAID IT.  Again, I only hope your kids never hear you speak that way or write that way. Shame on you.  Why have kids at all?  Just another parent who has them, gets rid of them for day AND night, BRAGS ABOUT IT, and then calls ME wicked!  Give me a break!  Camp is fine - its WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU KNOW IT.  Your own words showed your heart. Period.
"Sorry, Mrs. Pheebles, but we can't treat your heart attack..."
"It seems the Conficker worm just ate your medical records."
'Bout gave me a HEART ATTACK, but no pay cute here.
Somehow I dont think they would cut MTs' pay 30 percent without some sort of advance notice, done in such a way that people such as me, who didn't get any email, would find out about it on MT Stars. That's why I don't believe it.
Terror attack in London, explosions in the subway, many deaths
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Kids are demanding and so is MT work. My question is how CAN you do this with kids, rather than how
When you have two young kids, 11 months apart, (like I stated they are now 4 and 5) and have been doing this since they were born with no help from their father and no family around, YES, the kids get neglected. Part time might work but living on one salary, part time, is not an option. How can you possible tell me that anyone with two young kids can stay at home and work a full-time, 8-hour shift, and still give their kids the attention they NEED. I dont care how good you are at multitasking and how great your organizational skills are. It is a very difficult thing to do. And I am offended by your post making it sound as if it is easy to do.

I do agree that it can depend on how well your kids behave and how well they are able to play on their own. But my kids were not able to play well on their own. They needed constant attention.

So please take the time to realize that there are people out there in different situations than your own.

Reading our posts should help you to understand that everyone has a different situation. I believe everyone should have the right to shares their experiences as it might benefit the original poster in her questions and concerns.

I dont think anyone should be bashed for taking the time out to write about their experiences. I dont usually come on here to argue but you really ticked me off with your post. And try reading the post correctly. I said next time around I would have put them in day care. What I DID do with them was set them up to an activity like art or put on a movie for them. Geez.
Stayed "because of the kids?" I say "leave because of the kids"
You're in no position to buy right now. Keep saving, keep paying down your bills, and for heaven's sake get rid of that dead weight of a BF you're living with. You can do better.
So, should I return the $75 (x2 kids) in music cards I got the kids for x-mas...sm
My son has been telling me about free music sites and I was very leary.  How do they skirt the law Radguy?
I don't have kids, but my Mom was from the "old school," and still had everyone, kids inclu

call her by her first name.  The little neighbor girl next door from the time she could speak called her Aggie (my mom's first name), and they were great buddies until the day my mom pased away. 


I don't think there really is much in a name, but more in the respect you are given and the way you are treated.   Personally, I kind of cringe inside when someone calls me Ms. Anything or God forbid, "maam" (makes me feel like Methuselah!) ... I'm always just plain Merrie.  :-)


But, as someone pointed out, to each his own.  If you want to be addressed a certain way, you have that right, and people should respect that.  I'm glad you corrected the child ... hope it "sticks."    


I found more info. Supposedly he actually died in her hospital room of a heart attack....(sm)

How absolutely awful.  It says he was visiting his mom and the new baby.  Can you imagine going in the hospital to give birth only to leave with your new baby and your older son not make it out?  I can't even comprehend it.  I'm sorry for the people who can't see past her craziness but that has to be heartbreaking. 


Please do not simply give up, kids or no kids!
Talk with a professional. This can be worked through if he really puts forth the effort and you participate. The right counseling can truly make your marriage even better than it was before, if BOTH parties are willing to be honest. Give it a try. Nothing to lose at this point and everything to gain!
No I said thank God I do not have kids
I think the wrong point is being taken here. Yes he does not worry about money and is used to that. I am afraid of not making ends meet if I stop working my day job and I refuse to stop working either MT jobs as we all know it takes a lot of education to make it.
I am my kids mom

My children are lucky to have their mother taking care of them, not a stranger.  I work my butt of taking care of my kids and have made many sacrifices to be able to live this life of working PT and being a full time mother.  I know that I am my kids mom. 


I know that it must be hard for you to look at your kids and tell them that you don't want them to be with you everyday.  The sacrifices could be made. 


Thank God you have no kids. NM
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How much can you get done with 2 kids?
I haven't done transcription for a few years and would like to get back in. My question is--if you don't mind me asking--how many lines a week can you get done with kids? Is 1000 reasonable or way out there? I have 5 kids, but 3 of them will be in school during the day and the other two nap...any advice?
For kids
Tacos, as son to work and daughter off too, and me and hubby home made wedding soup, ummm ummm good, and sweet italian sausage on hard rolls, not stale, just good.
28 WF, M, 2 kids. nm
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Kids come first for both of us, then each other, I don't think I'd want a man who
and catering to me constantly. I like the fact that he does all the cooking, and most of the grocery shopping and gets me things I like w/o me having to ask him to buy them. I do the same for him. We don't get much alone time but enjoy what time we do get together. My man does a lot other men don't but doesn't act like a doormat either.
Same here... kids come first, then each other. sm
Our kids are still at home, and the kids come first. I've seen lots of other parents who put themselves/each other first, and the kids always seem to be second thoughts to them. That's not how it works in our family. We're all equally important, but the kids' needs come first. If I only have $30 and we all need shoes, the kids get them first. I wouldn't have it any other way.
How old are the kids?nm

We have three kids.
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DH does his own. So do the kids.

I used to have Mount Everest on the basement floor every single day and then I just got fed up and stopped doing laundry except for my own and household items, i.e., towels, etc. Half of the pile was clean stuff that I had folded and put in the kids' rooms that they just put back in the pile when they "cleaned" their rooms.


It took them a while to adjust, but the youngest was 8 and the older ones were 12 and 17 and I left their stuff in the mountain until they realized that they couild actually work the washing machine AND the dryer. They also know if they put the washer on the extra small cycle for only one pair of pants, one shirt, one pair of socks and one pair of underwear for themselves, and I actually find it, it gets hauled out of the washer and thrown back on the pile wet.


And don't even think about not scraping AND rinsing your plate. You won't get fed.


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