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Six Cents is an excellent income if you live in India or Pakistan!

Posted By: Kate on 2006-01-12
In Reply to: Make an income on 0.6 a line? - Noodles

If a client told me that was the rate of pay they're offering, you'd be amazed just how quickly that conversation would come to an abrupt end. 


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I'm sure India, Pakistan, Philippines...
and perhaps a few others.  But the WORLD...no....not even most healthcare providers in the U.S.A.  If you really believe what you said, you've have been misled.
Aim the missles at India & Pakistan
One way to get rid of some of our nuclear arsenal....
Advertise in India & Pakistan, not the U.S.

it's GREAT pay for India, annual income...sm

did you read this paragraph from the OP?  $135 a week is EXCELLENT PAY for India.....yielding around $8000 annually, so when compared to their average $500 annually - it's 40-fold......here's that paragraph from OP:


 
"Jaggesh may do 1,000 lines a day. At the average pay rate, that would earn her roughly $27 a day, or $135 for a five-day week -- good wages in India, where the average annual income is about $500."


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thing about MTs in India are they are all business-degreed, college graduates, and average age is 27.  things about us MTs in USA are we are not *degreed* (most of us), we ARE college educated and/or grads (I would like to think most of us), but our average age is......so I have read......49.....so there is where I see the competition.


It's so unfortunate.....the entire world is youth-oriented......not just here.  We put in our blood, sweat, and TEARS for the better part of 20-40+ years for most of us here in the USA doing this work and professing it and getting it so the BOS even went from 90 pages in the 80s to nearly 600 pages in the 2000s.  THAT WAS DUE TO US - nobody else.


so give yourselves an ATTA-GIRL or ATTA-BOY here....I sure am thankful for all I've learned in this BIZ and continue to learn...so many decades later - so unfair that we are losing all the work to overseas.



the 2 cents goes a lot further in India
IBM stopped hiring american accountants for $60,000 a year and hired on Indians who telecommute by computer for a salary of $3,000 a year. That $3,000 is a very good salary over there. We are all messed up now. The Indians making 2 pennies per line are better off than americans making 10 cents per line.
Well, then how come people could live comfortable on one income back then? huh?
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sure, if you live in India.

That's exactly correct! who can live on less than 9 cents a line? NM
NM
if you live among trashy people, low income people, people w/o goals or direction,
content to just get by, you by default become a part of a group. "people" have decided to group trailer people as trash. that is because there are enough people in that group to earn the title and even if you aren't trash, you are categorized by others. did i think i was trash in lower class neighborhood surrounded by people who drank and fought all weekend? no but i knew i wasn't staying and did not try to pretend that all the fools in the neighborhood were just nice folks who ended up where they were because high horse snobs deemed their neighborhood low class. people for the most part live exactly where they belong because they don't want to educate themselves, they don't mind "trash" around them and they don't want to be bothered trying just a bit hard to extract themselves from that world. they justify everything to themselves i guess saying everyone who doesn't like their lifestyle is a snob and the comedians (Jeff Foxworthy/Chris Rock, etc) who make fun of them are just ill-informed.

As for me, I fought hard to get out and don't even want to look back. It amazes me people stay for generations.
Not sure, I have deductions for federal income tax, SS tax, Medicare tax, and state income tax. ???
nm
INDIA, INDIA, NEWBIE LOOKING FOR INDIAN-OWNED COMPANY-FORGET AMERICA COMPANIES HIRING NEWBIES!!!!
Our country sucks when it comes to teamwork.  My experience is in hospital transcription and 95% foreign dictators.  Most of my dictators are from India and surrounding countries.  Give up you all, India is already way ahead of us!
Used to think we were using India, but now realize India is using us for our med. info, jobs,
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They answered. Said he was from Pakistan and that all MTs
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ID being stolen in Pakistan
There is probably less chance of your ID being stolen in Pakistan than the United States, where I had my stolen.
Yes, he's from Pakistan. He didn't hire himself though.
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The quality I see coming out of Pakistan and Egypt still bites the big one.
:+
how do you know for certain that Sheri is not an honest person? and Dr. Ahmed is from Pakistan, the
or is there any owner here. No one answers any of my questions. I have been posting all day.
It is owned by Zeshan Ahmed from Pakistan. It is no longer
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Zeshan Ahmed from Pakistan. He posted it right here. I have zero comfort
this website. I can't believe you would be.
18,000+ have perished in Pakistan. A terrible tragedy has occured in the world, we should
whether offshore services can't work.  Any way you look at it, people are people.  To the original poster, have some respect.
Death toll in Pakistan rises up to 30,000. Whatever your belief system is please think of the
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Strike in Pakistan slowing down offshored work here. Just another example of offshore
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Remember that Pakistan co who threatened to post medical records on the Net?

REMEMBER WHEN THIS STORY BROKE? Finally, somebody is dealing with the issue. Check this out!


http://www.gcn.com/online/vol1_no1/41035-1.html


VA IT security gaps extend to contractors
06/14/06 -- 04:15 PM
By Mary Mosquera,



Rep. Buyer: Department CIO needs IT security enforcement authority
 
[b]The Veterans Affairs Department said today that it has been investigating allegations that an offshore medical transcription subcontractor last year threatened to expose 30,000 veterans’ electronic health records on the Internet in a payment dispute with a VA contractor. [/b]
The VA assistant inspector general referred to the investigation during questioning in a congressional hearing on VA’s data security environment in the wake of the theft of sensitive data of 26.5 million veterans, active duty military and reserves officers.


The medical transcription incident highlights how gaps in information security also extend to contractors, said Michael Staley, VA’s assistant inspector general for auditing. Some VA medical transcription contractors have used offshore subcontractors in India and Pakistan without VA’s approval and without adequate controls to ensure veterans’ health information was secure under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, according to an audit released today.


“Contracts do not specify criteria for how to protect information,” Staley told the House Veterans Affairs Committee.


Staley enumerated audits of information management security under the Federal Information Security Management Act, the Consolidated Financial Statement and Combined Assessment Program that revealed significant vulnerabilities. These include VA not controlling and monitoring employee access, not restricting users to only the data they need and not terminating accounts of departing employees in a timely manner.


In last year’s FISMA review, the IG provided 16 recommendations, including addressing security vulnerabilities of unauthorized access and misuse of sensitive information and data throughout VA demonstrated during its field testing. All 16 recommendations remain open, he said.


Audits also found instances where out-based employees send veterans’ medical information to the VA regional office through unencrypted e-mail; monitoring remote network access and usage does not routinely occur; and off-duty users’ access to VA computer systems and sensitive information is not restricted.


“VA has implemented some recommendations for specific locations identified but has not made corrections VA-wide,” he said.


From fiscal years 2000 to 2005, the IG identified IT and security deficiencies in 141, or 78 percent, of 181 Veterans Health Administration facilities reviewed, and 37, or 67 percent, of the 55 Veterans Benefits Administration facilities reviewed.


“We recommended that VA pursue a more centralized approach, apply appropriate resources and establish a clear chain of command and accountability structure to implement and enforce IT internal controls,” Staley said.


The underlying situation is the VA’s department CIO does not have authority to enforce compliance with data security and information management and recommendations from GAO, said Veterans Affairs Committee chairman Steve Buyer (R-Ind.).


Buyer traced problems in security enforcement to a memo dated April 2004 from the general counsel that said the department CIO did not have enforcement authority.


The CIO, undersecretaries who lead VA’s benefits, health and burial administrations, and the VA secretary share responsibility for enforcement, said Gregory Wilshusen, director of information security issues for the Government Accountability Office.


“Information security is a governmentwide problem, and we have talked with OMB about that,” said Linda Koontz, director of GAO’s information management issues.


Buyer expressed frustration that there are no consequences for “recalcitrant” agencies that do not correct problems that GAO has repeatedly highlighted. He cited the Privacy Act, which has been strengthened with consequences.


“If you have a bureaucracy so strong in the department that the secretary or political bodies are unable to act, don’t you think the president or vice president or OMB needs to know that because there are monetary consequences behind that inaction? I’m bothered that GAO doesn’t have the higher authority to which they can turn,” Buyer said after the hearing.


After several more hearings this month, Buyer and his committee will make recommendations or craft legislation. He suggested that Congress consider looking at strengthening FISMA.


“We can even come up with that in our language, but we’re not going to have jurisdiction over that. We’ll have to work with Mr. Davis [House Government Reform Committee chairman Tom Davis (R-Va.)] and his committee. I’d be more than happy to do that,” he said.



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12 cents. I'd love to make 12 cents. sm
a line as an employee.  17 years acute care experiencing doing all work types and I only make 9 cpl plus incentives. 
So then this board is now owned by Dr. Zeshan Ahmed from Pakistan? Do I understand you correctly?
So this is NOT AN AMERICAN BOARD ANYMORE?
why no, i don't live in snobville. did you think you knew me? i live in heritage hills a suburb
it takes a little longer to get to work and shopping but thank god i have some privacy and am away from the congestion.  lovely trees and lakes all around.  maybe about 20 minutes to a large shopping mall.  but no, i don't even know where snobville is.
why yes the quality of air where i live is quite different than where the city people live.
Lots of pollution.  That's why everyone is moving away from the city and areas zoned for multiple housing units and low income housing and trailer parks.  Population is dense and near manufacturing.  So yes, the air is different but millions of people pay a little extra for the quality, the space and privacy afforded to those who move out of polluted crowded areas such as you defend.  There is always a reason why some areas and housing is cheaper than others.  Maybe it is the air and maybe it's something you can't quite put your finger on but you know you would prefer not to live in certain areas.  You know what I mean or are you living in one of those areas?  They tell after awhile you block out the sounds, the smells and get used to the pollution.  I don't know.  I didn't stay long enough to test the theory.  My mental and physical health is way too important to me. 
I know they live a long time, so if there is a chance they will out live you - sm
make sure you make provisions for them in your will. I have only had cockatiels and some finches, so don't really know anything about the bigger birds. I love African Grey's but they are very expensive.
8 cents versus 9 cents
Wait a minute....9/55 is to 8/65....would not 9/55 be significantly higher pay than 8/64 (spaces are not counted in either case)?
8 cents a line. Should be 10 cents for over 10 yrs exp but
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Live and let live. Don't force your lifestyle on me.
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I used to live in MN now I live in MS and they were both cold last night!
Will take MS cold over MN cold any day, and I don't miss the snow. I miss the Mall of America, though!
I live in PA, can I help? If they are close to where I live, I would go check them out for ya!
Where in PA is this company?
You must live where I live. I ran into the same sort of SM
situation when I was the president-elect of the local chapter and the VP-elect of the state chapter. I bailed out. There was no fighting it.
LOL! Don't live in NH. Live in ConnectiTAX. LOL NM
NM
Can you live on 7.75 cpl or do you need 9.5 cpl. If I could live at the lower, that is what I
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MT income

I am at #6, but have been an MT for 30+ years. 


But for those who need FT income...sm
I can see how that could be a problem for some. It is my intention to get a PT job, and if I don't get enough work, find another to fill it out; then, who ever pays best for the best work and least hassle WINS. However, my DH is the primary wage earner around here. My income helps, but we don't require it to live.
income

I live in New York, have been doing MT for 15 years and during all of that time I have needed to work 50 to 70 hours a week.  I started on working mostly from tapes. When the dictations started coming through the computer and I started using word expanders, income went way up.  But so has my rent - used to be $750, now $1100.  And my son eats a lot more at 14 than he used to! A few years ago I started working for 2 services for extra money... but now I couldn't get by without 2 jobs. The first job used to pay well, but with a combination of a new platform and VR,  plus being transferred to a different account at a lesser line rate, I make thousands less from them than I used to.  I am changing companies.  Would love a 40 hour work week but don't think it's possible.


40,000 not low income

maybe with 10 children..  I know of one circumstance (in my state, and some others) where a person can make a decent amount of money (sky's not the limit, but 50,000 range is OK) and still get Medicaid. It's a program for working people with disabilities, whose medical expenses are extremely high and would not be covered by regular insurance - including services of home health aide and transportation to medical appointments, equipment, etc etc). I am on this program (which I was not told about by Medicaid workers, had to do my own research). So I am in the curious position of receiving government assistance (Medicaid only, not food stamps or disability payments) and working/paying taxes at the same time.


Likely the OP is not in this category.


Income Tax after Death

I have a friend whose mother passed away in March of this year.  She was an IC and thus earned income right up until the time of her death.  Is her daughter now responsible for filing an income tax return and/or paying taxes on this income?  I know an accountant for her would be handy in this situation, but I thought I might get some opinions here as well.  Thanks!!


Disagree - it is NET income
You pay your social security on your NET income not your gross, after all your deductions and look around you will find them.   Also you are only paying 7.5% MORE than if you were an employee.  Again, as an employee you have the convenience of someone controlling and withholding your income tax while as an IC you do it.  I have more usable income as an IC than as an employee because of my deductions.  If your husband is working have him take one less deduction or have them hold out a specific amount that will offset what you make,  they will do that and that way you don't have to worry about paying quarterly taxes.   The IRS doesn't care who pays as long as if you are filing jointly the tax has been paid.  
He can't cut his income intentionally.. sm
It's written into the divorce decree (if you have a halfway decent attorney) that income cannot be reduced.. and even if it is.. the child support and other payments remain the same as ordered. Been there...and done that..
Monthy Income
I would like to know what short cuts "nm" is using in order to make $60K a year.  Maybe that will help us all make more money.  Thanks.
Yearly income

I have three 1099's here in front of me  -- one for 24K, one for 13K,  and one for 5K.    My W2 one is for 14 almost 15K.  I did work without 1099 in the amount of 3K.   The reason that my average goes down on the IRS forms is that after all my business deductions -- which includes my health insurance and 401K and Self employed retirement fund, mileage, supplies, etc. it goes down to less than 20K.   Believe me or not, but it is possible and I still have time to go on the boards.  I do not work 60 to 70 hours per week. 



I have my own accounts and my income
was around $38,000. That is around $3,100 a month. I work M-F and usually work 8-hour days, though there are times I need to put in an extra hour or two on the weekend or in the evening when the work is really coming in. If you work for someone else, that person is charging at least 3-4 cents per line over what they are paying you in order to turn a profit, so if you are making 7 cpl, you can bet they're charging at least 11 cpl, if not more. At 11 cpl, if you can achieve 1400 lines a day, that would be around $3000 a month. That would be 175 lines an hour and that is not an extraordinary amount for an experienced MT with Expanders and other production tools in place. I would venture a guess that most saying they make that much have their own accounts and those making less than that a month work for someone else.
Low income housing?
My sister is getting divorced and wants to move into this place that bills itself as "low income".  They told her they would take 30% of her income.  BTW, she is also an MT.  She says she makes about $1350 a month, but has a van payment and various bills.  I am asking on here because the place won't answer any of her questions right now.  She needs to be moved by the 15th of March.  I am wondering if anyone knows how they can take over $400 of her income and still call themselves "low income" that doesn't seem fair.  I knew a lady that lived their with one child and paid less than $10 a month.  I mean what about her other bills?  She has 4 little children (twins 4, and  6- and an 8-year-old).  I hate to see her move in there and overpay.  My mom and I don't know what to tell her.  She's been through quite an ordeal already.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!  Aunt Maria
annual income
Watch out, you will be accused of being childish from the same person who refers to "some" fellow MTs as unfortunately not having a brain. Hmmm, pot calling the kettle black? That was so rude and so not called for.....is that necessary!
20K is my taxable income

Boy you guys do not know how to read financial statements or know the first thing about running your own business.   That is my taxable income.  I start out about 55K and end up paying taxes on only 20K if that.  I support myself in a very unique lifestyle living on a floating home.  I contribute 15K to a my own retirement fund.  I have NO debt.  And I probably spend no more on gas than if I were working at a hospital but I get to deduct the mileage which is a good deduction.   The only outlay that I have that I would not have if I were working for someone else is supplies -- sticky paper and toner.  I have looked at employee versus IC or business owner and I am so much more ahead financially doing it this way.  A lot more usable income.  And I only work 30 hours per week even with deliveries and pick-ups.   So before you speak, learn how to realize what is net, gross and  taxable income.   


loss of income
I think this is happening to many of us in this profession.  I am making two thirds of what I made 13 years ago and there is no way to get clients in my area as one hospital went out of business, two merged and gave the docs laptops and the largest only uses one service and has a 10 year contract but I have heard they are giving all new doctors laptops too.  The hospitals in my area own most of the clinics, family meds and speciality offices too.  Time for me to think about something else.
income taxes
Hi - Now working as an IC. Can anyone tell me what form or format you use when filing your taxes to list deductions from work-related items. Would appreciate any help on this.  Thanks