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teaching dictators to dictate better

Posted By: RM on 2009-03-12
In Reply to: Another thing that would help - Rena

Exactly! But where is the motivation for them to do so? Yes, if you point out to them that they could be spending less time dictating and more efficiently whereby freeing them up to do patient care, maybe they'd listen. Certainly, if it hit them in the pocket there would be motivation to improve. For instance, if really, really, notoriously bad dictators were charged higher rates there would be big incentive to get/teach the providers how to use the equipment and how to dictate better. Money is a strong motivator!

I think about how there is going to be greater and greater emphasis on reducing costs of providing medical care. There's a huge opportunity for clinics/doctors/hospitals to improve and become much more efficient with transcribing. And who better to train them than us!!

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Do you think any of these dictators ever LISTEN to themselves dictate.
Sometimes they're downright HORRIBLE!!!!
Then the dictators should dictate them that way in the first place and not leave it for us to guess
We're just "typists", remember?
Yep, they dictate in noisy nursing stations, dictate in the ER, dictate in the OR when they are
cleaning up banging around and we are supposed to hear them. So much for HIPPA.
Not always. Tongue stumblers. New dictators. Speedy and lazy dictators.
?? Bad dictators are bad dictators regardless of their mother language.

wonder when people will just get over it and do what they can and move on. 

Thats why im getting into the teaching GIG
I am not currently teaching.

Perhaps I will teach again someday, but as I stated, I am now at home with my children and would like to do something at home.  The grass is always greener on the other side.  Teaching can be great, but it can also be horribly exhausting and emotionally draining.  Also, the schedule is inflexible to the extreme, and I am just not ready to jump back into that right now. 

I appreciate any advice about how to get back into transcription, as that is what I have decided to do. 


RE: Teaching Hospital
I am the transcription supervisor at a teaching hospital and the residents are so long, especially family practice docs. They can go on and on and they are foreign, all of them. This makes it especially hard, but that is all we get. The Americans are going into specialty services such as Surgery, GYN, etc..
Teaching hospital

I'm on a teaching hospital account it is THE most interesting, challenging work I have ever had.  Maybe ask if you can be on a different account?  

I'd say stick with teaching.
This is not an industry I'd recommend anyone to enter anew for so many reasons:

1. Inconsistent pay and work available.

2. No respect from employers who lie to us and treat us like second class citizens. Slavery went out in the Lincoln administration, people.

3. No respect from people whom I tell what I do for a living.

4. No future in this job. Voice recognition and outsourcing are putting it in the same category of obsolete occupations as the blacksmith.

Be glad you have a career to fall back on in case the MT one doesn't pan out, but I sure wouldn't put any money into learning how to do something that's going to cease to exist in the next decade.
Former MTs Teaching English
I heard that too. its in the newpaper last week, they will be looking for teacher. Man, this board is really updated.
Is it possible that teaching can be outsourced?
the date is 2014, It a nice day. You drop off your kids to public school to for them to watch a huge plasma screen that has a teacher in it. And guess what... Its via Satellite, from India. Im getting goosebumps.... Arg. Its also outsourced. Oh im having a nightmare. I hope its its just a nightmare.
Just 1 in 12 yrs. 1 other was teaching hosp, I was
one department's Transcriptionist for 2 years.
Going into QA, getting a supervisor job or MT teaching job... SM

is easier said than done.  A lot of times, transcription supervisors at a hospital are required to be an RHIT, in the old days it was an ART.  Took me forever to break into QA.  A lot of companies hire you as an MT and tell you they promote from within.  And teaching jobs are even tougher to find, they are few and far between.

You best bet, if you choose to stay in the MT business, is to strike out on your own.  Start your own online school and charge MTs $1200 or more a pop.  Or start your own MT business, but it's hard to do that with the monster services out there buying up every little guy they can sink their claws into.

I've decided coding is the best avenue for me and that's what I've been studying on my own, but it's taking forever because their so much to absorb, not to mention up to date books are MUST in coding and the books are $100 (ICD-9-CM and CPT) and that doesn't include HCPCS book.  And if you don't buy the new books every year, you can't pass the test.  So I'm trying to do it on my own without paying another school for another education that might end up outsourced overseas anyway.


You said have experience in teaching
transcription and medical terms but have you actually done the transcription yourself, not just the teaching part?
IMO, BOS made as teaching aid for when they
Why work for a co who is teaching sm
people in Barbados how to do MT so they can compete with us too?  No thanks.
Whatever they're teaching them
So far as I know the term "basic four" didn't come along until the advent of MTSOs.  I think it is far more important that students learn how to actually DO history/physicals, ops, discharge summaries and consults than to know that they are sometimes called "basic four" or they might be labeled as "acute care" which is the same thing.  I have personally never been asked if I could do "basic four"  or "acute care" in an interview.  They have always asked me what experience I have.    My standard answer, "send it to me and I can do it," whereupon I expound as appropriate regarding my experience and answer questions as asked.  Again, I have never been asked anything about "basic four."
Teaching hospitals & residents...
I work for a very large university hospital account and hate how long-winded some of these residents can be! Argh! Especially 1st year - just a plain chest xray turns into a thesis! And the attendings aren't much better - they love to "teach" on my time! What is your preference - teaching hospitals (which admittedly are great teaching grounds for MT's) or regular, plain old boring regular hospitals? These residents make me want to........
RE: Teaching hospitals & residents...
Teaching hospitals.
How funny; I'm going from transcription to teaching soon!
I already have my teaching certificate, just need to get out there and teach.  Been doing MT for about 10 years now, so I can stay home with my kids.  It's been nice, but I really need the retirement and other bennies that teaching will provide. 
Teaching MT at an unethical school....sm

It was a private school that once students enrolled for any programs they would basically lie to them and never would fail anyone.  If a student failed a test the instructors were told to give them the same test again, after reviewing the test questions and answers prior to giving them the 2nd test.  Honest to goodness 1st graders have it harder than that!  The icing on the cake was when I told my students the reality of what to expect for pay scales after graduation.  The school had enrolled everyone with the "you'll be making $60-80k after graduation" crap.  I lasted exactly 2 weeks there before I quit over their unethical behavior. 

Depends on which grade you will be teaching, but
Another thing about teaching hospitals
is that you will see things there that you might not see at your 90-bed facilities.

These hospitals do everything and if I were you, I would just wait and see. I think you will find that the experience alone will be invaluable to you.

I know MTs who have been MTs forever that have never had the experience of a teaching hospital and are limited in the surgeries that they have transcribed.

Congratulations on your new job.
This has jumped from "mentoring" to teaching....sm
Starting a school would be the last thing I would want to do.  I have thought about simple "mentoring," not all the other hassels.  I think the original poster means that also but maybe as an employee.  I would want to do it on my own just for a few people at a time.  As I said before....not big bucks.....
I think teaching pre-teens how to do laundry

I think 10-12 year olds can help do some laundry - it helps them develop a work ethic and shows them that if they go out on their own, what they will have to do....well, the ones who don't continually bring their laundry back to their mothers.  *LOL*  AND they love eaning $$$ - it's a great way, instead of *tossing* allowances at them.....chores/laundry/etc. = few dollars in their little pockets *S*

It's all about deals and contracts w/kids I think....and I'm a pro...on the subject, as I have some....*lol*

Your exactly correct, schools are teaching (sm)
My 8th grader has to do 1 space after periods in all typed reports for school, that is what they teach for formatting typed documents now.

Also, I am in nursing school and we follow APA format, which also specifies 1 space after a period.

2 is definitely not the way things will be soon, so hold onto it if you can for now.

I still do 2 spaces for work because I get paid for spaces and those spaces do add up to $$.
I would advise you to continue teaching! nm
I have one now where we CAP, bold and underline them (teaching hospital) -
and on one I used to only capa and bold. Everyone is different.
tsk, tsk, tsk..teaching your children to lie and cheat..nice..NOT

275-310 lph - one account-large teaching hospital
Hmm. My account (huge teaching hospital) has it, and
I still think the healthcare game is in for a huge shakeup in the not-too-distant future. Quality and confidentiality of medical records will be part of the picture when it finally all gets examined under the new government's microscope. And I don't think they're going to like what they see one bit. If the general population finds out how shoddy their records (and affected health care) are, you better believe some U-no-wat is gonna hit the fan.
I guess teaching took away your sense of humor
That WAS advice. The MT industry STINKS right now.
I wonder if CS is ALSO teaching Coding to India & other countries?
I know they teach MT to India and other countries, the latest one being Jamaica.

Yet they still take money from US students, even though they are training overseas to help them take more jobs away.
Philadelphia - $25 per hour at a large teaching hospital. nm
The MTSO should be compensating you if you're teaching people!
And if they won't, then I'd politely refer their questions to the MTSO. And the email request is perfectly reasonable, IMO.

It's been my experience as a lead MT and trainer over the years that some people just would rather have somebody give them fish rather than learn to do it themselves. When I got that "vibe" from somebody I promptly handed them their fishing pole and bait and refused to give them any more fish, if you know what I mean!
I was teaching, and Katrina hit, and I decided I needed a job that could move with me if need be.
I have a friend who was an MT (actually, she and 2 of her sisters are MTs). When I asked her what she did, it was like a light going off in my mind--it sounded really interesting, since I loved typing and grammar and had good ears (I thought). When Katrina hit, I took time during our enforced semester off to take an online course, loved it, and began working as an MT. I discovered quickly that having good musical ears is not the same thing as having good MT ears!

What I love about MT work is that it is so interesting. I get to learn every day without having to actually be there to see/smell/hear. I am fascinated by the human machine and enjoy learning about it in detail.

Eventually, I'd like to move into a mentoring/teaching position with young or new MTs, but I need more years of experience before that happens. I totally admire those of you who have been doing this for a long time-- you guys have amazing ears and I'm always impressed by the knowledge you have picked up by working! That's what I aspire to, as well.

I worked in a teaching/major trauma hospital
when I was doing radiology and we had scads of standards.
Depends upon size of hospital. If it's a large teaching
They are teaching you to always put the period inside quotes now. I just took a college English
It still looks wrong to me that way, but that's how they're doing it.
Ditto :). Teaching hospitals are great experience if you can be patient. nm
Good luck on teaching your kids but it's a hard lesson to swallow
if a kid is being made fun of and most kids just want to fit in. No one wants their kids hurt needlessly and I hope you consider this because you really can't change the world's perception of trailer parks. I don't know how it got to this point, but it is what it is and your kids should not suffer for it so you can make a defensive statement against all who have preconceived notions of trailer park people, further enhanced by TV shows.
800 dictate can help you set it up.

Cannot dictate for MDs
You cannot dictate for a physician unless you have a PA or MD degree.  We volunteered at the last in-house position I held to dictate the discharge summaries instead of paying quite a bit for interns/residents to do the dictating and were told it is not legal.
If they dictate
your hours, you are not an IC and the IRS will sooner or later jump on it.  Do you file a schedule C with your income tax?  Be careful, because if you're not a real IC your deductions may not be allowed.  
I often dictate for a doc sm
that will send his patients to a therpaist named Candace Jones, but he always sends them to Candice Bergan.
If they dictate them, they want them on there.
LOVE teaching hospitals and long-winded reports. Less ADT time which I'm not paid for.
Hate filling in ADT screens w/ searches just to do a one minute report.
No joke. I made 12 cpl as an employee at a large teaching hospital. I should mention the ended up
work to an outside service and that is why I'm not with them today, but good paying, employee status jobs are out there, though they are few and far between.  You just have to be patient and be good at what you do. 
IMHO, helping humanity is along the lines of teaching, volunteering, nursing, working with
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