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yep - it's the finger using the mouse the most

Posted By: see link.....sm on 2007-06-04
In Reply to: Right arm pain? - Laur

I have had this problem for so long, been through multiple mice, now on logitech for a couple of years (better but not great).  I just live with it - been MTg for 3 decades........hands always hurt too cuz I won't have carpal tunnel surgery or any hand surgery (been there, done that, and never again).  Hope you feel better.  Advil helps but Advil is not all that good for you for any length of time....


 


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FYI.  This was on Kim's Cool Site of the Day for June 15.


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It was nothing that I could put my finger on definitely. sm
Keep in mind this was 4-5 years ago though. I paid good money for my McAfee and had it for about a year and then they said they were not going to suppot that version any more and I would have to either upgrade (more expensive) or lose my tech support. So I entered the world of searching for a good AV program.

Other than that, it was a conglomeration of a lot of stuff. I didn't think it was very user friendly (or maybe I just didn't read enough of the tutorial) LOL, but it did not play well with some of my other software I had. It seemed to constantly butt heads with my SpyBot S&D. That being said, it did the job it was supposed to do, which I guess sometimes is all we can expect.
Finger fumbling

Hello all:


I was wondering if maybe some of you might have some pointers for me.  I have been doing transcription for almost 3 years, and I have days where I have "fumble fingers."  This really gets on my nerves as on the days I have fumble fingers it seems it takes me forever with my documents.  I was just wondering if anyone else has days like these? Any ideas on what to do?  I can typically type 80-85 words per minute, but when I have finger fumble days, of course it makes me type slower because I am having to continually backspace!!


Thank you :)


Finger stiffness - sm
All the time... I'm only 40 too. It must be contageous!
Has anyone had to work with a booboo finger?
I dropped a tire on my right middle finger last night and ended up in the emergency center.  Turns out I crushed the tip of the bone.  I have disability, but does anyone know if it's possible to get some kind of supplemental insurance to make up the difference?  This is my worst work nightmare, that something might happen to my hands.  Can I insure them for, oh a million dollars or so?
It's my right index finger-- tightens up - nm
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Right hand/finger tingling
Could be disk in your neck, carpal tunnel or both. I would see your PCP and/or orthopedic doctor and go from there. Collars do help, heat, etc. I have had this pain for years, even after surgery, not a lot of fun. Good luck, hope you get good news that it is none of the above.
Have had stiffness of all of my finger joints....
No pain, just mild stiffness/tingling in the morning that I only feel if I try to make a fist that pretty much lasts all day.  Doesn't keep my from transcribing or anything, just wondering if this could be caused by typing all day.  I kinda expected to get carpal tunnel syndrome in my wrists, but this is strange.  Unless this is the first sign of arthritis!  I'm only 40!  

 

Anyone experience anything like this?  TIA!

 

 

Same finger/left hand - many years ago
Somehow got my finger between the panels of my garage door when I was pulling it shut leaving for work. At that time, worked in Radiology Dept.- x-rays showed FX & had it splinted. Believe it or not, went onto work & over the weeks learned how to compensate & "type" without that finger. Actually, had a hard time re-training myself to use that finger after the splint was taken off. Just knew at that time I "had" to work (divorced - 3 kids, no support, etc.) Amazing what you can do when you have to!
I didn't have any hand/finger symptoms either, just

wrist.  Using a brace at night helps some.  I use the kind that has the metal strip so that you can't bend your wrist.  I found them at my drugstore.   I had surgery almost 15 years ago and did fine until this past year, and again am developing symptoms.  My symptoms developed from writing, not typing, and now I can type usually without problems, but I can only write a tiny bit, can't grip a garden tool for long or do any type of fine motor movement for long and then if I do my wrists hurt so much that typing then bothers me. 


I know there is some vitamin regimen to help, though I don't know what it is.  I was put on Naprosyn first and was allergic to it.  Orthopod suggested hot and cold soaks, 15 minutes each.  I had cortisone injections and some other type of injections, and physical therapy.   I was only out of work about 3 days, but I wasn't an MT at the time.   I do not have the strength in my hand that I used to, but other than that haven't really had any problems.  I do have trouble with pain occasionally, can't think of the word, but it feels like the scar is drawing up and I get shooting pains, but I can massage the scar and it eases.    I'm considering a job change rather than going through surgery again, not because the surgery was bad, just because not only do I have carpal tunnel, but I have swelling and tingling in my feet, butt spread, etc.  


Word of warning - make sure you have an empty bladder before the EMG study.  They have to test both sides so they have a comparison and between laying flat, still, and the electrical shocks I couldn't get off that table quick enough to go potty.


Also, if you don't already, get a keyboard tray that is adjustable.  You can find them at a woodworking store or in various catalogs.  I can position mine at various heights and various angles.  I also sometimes lower the tray and put a pillow on it and then my keyboard and it absorbs some of the pressure and using the pillow you don't have an edge from the tray or the wrist pad pressing into you.  I also found I sit back in my chair better with the pillow.  If this is not comfortable at least try a folded towel between the tray and keyboard.


I wouldn't discourage surgery, but I would try some of the things above first. 


 


 


I have been experiencing right hand/finger tingling. Could this be
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'three-view right ring finger', or
(Note the punctuation for each version.)
I find most everything in your post to be finger pointing.
You are putting every excuse in the world out there as to why you are not able to do the job you were hired to do.

Sorry to hear about your past but that is NOT why you were FORCED to take a job. You made a CHOICE to take the job.

Yes, it is legal for an employer to ask you to do more than one account. It is NOT abuse but, by the other statements in your post, that you feel everything is someone else's fault.

If the job isn't for you, then go find one that is. The point is that your most profitable work might not be in medical transcription.
LOL! This was divine intervention, slip of my finger....LOL...nm
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roast in mini bites (finger food)
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Need help on recipe board please for non-perishable finger foods (sm)
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Sounds like all the doublespeak inflicted on us at our employee meetings. Finger-pointing, no const
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Keyboard and mouse. Is there such a thing as a keyboard that has a mouse on the actual keyboard?
nm

DQS and using the mouse
You know, maybe the loss of lines is because with DQS you have to use the mouse so much.  I took have noticed since I switched to DQS that my lines are down.  With the last program I used, I hardly ever had to use my mouse.
Not using mouse with DQS?
Really?  How do you do that?  Like when you have to fill in demographics and go from screen to screen?  Or in the body of the report to go from paragraph to paragraph?  Tell, me, please..cause I sure would like to find a faster way as the mouse has slowed me down.  Thanks for any info you can give me!
Mouse
I'm really technologically deprived, so forgive me.  I was wondering if anyone knew the typical "life" of a mouse?  I just replaced mine about 6-10 months ago, and it's starting to go out already.  It's like the little ball thing (see my tech terms?) isn't working, and it's a pain to try to get the cursor to move.  The one before I had for about 5 years, and before that, it was eons.  Did I get a bad deal, or is this average? Thanks for any help!  (I use it daily, working, if that helps determine the life expectancy!)
Same with me, I still use the mouse. SM
BTW, tell me how you do so many lines! I used to be a good producer back in the day when I did a lot of OP notes, but now I'm lucky to do 1500 lines in a day.
mouse
I don't have CT and I'm on straight transcription, but thanks to a recommendation here on the board I bought an Evoluent mouse and I can really feel a difference in my wrist when I use it.  Maybe that would help you somewhat????? 
Mouse gone.
Check your settings on your mouse. Go through the Control Panel, click on "mouse", click on the tab "Pointer Options", make sure the box that says "Hide pointer while typing" isn't checked.
Mouse

Glad it worked! 


Use your mouse
Just use your mouse and keep clicking on the icon. If not, just reboot your machine. That sounds like a strange problem.

Best not to let other people mess with your work PC.
Mouse
I use the mouse that has the rollerball on it.  I never have to move the whole mouse.  I love it and will not use anything else.  Cost about $30 I think.  I have had it for 3 years now.  You don't even need a mouse pad. I got it at Office Max.  Also, when I type.  I rest my hands on my pull out keyboard drawer and only move my finges.  I have been typing over 20 years, and I have never had any wrist pain.  Guess I am just lucky.
I never use my mouse with DQS unless I split a job
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I tried a wireless mouse
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I need a "shelf" for my mouse.

to hook it up over my calculator pad on my keyboard.  This would be probably metal or hard plastic.  Had one at the hospital and so I know someone carries them; I just do not know what they are called.


I am the person with the tennis elbow-type symptoms.  Thanks for the tip on track ball mouse.  Picked up a Logitech model for 20.00 yesterday at Staples.  They were on sale. 


Thanks! 


why use a mouse at all? It does nothing but slow you down.

I have one, a mouse shelf. I got it from one of those
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(sigh) mouse
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mouse pedal
 Would that not be great.
This one seems to only do the mouse click
part, and doesn't let you move the mouse. It says you can use one pedal for the mouse click, one instead of the ALT key, and one for the CTRL key. So you would still have to take your hand off the keyboard to move the darned mouse. At least that's the way I read it.
Monitors and Mouse
I have two flat panel monitors side by side - connected to each other - one is a 21", the other a 19".. its like having one hugh gigantic TV screen - you can drag from one monitor to the other, you can have your email up and running on one, your work on one, etc......watching the work upload as you continue along your merry way. They are both from Dell, one is a Dell Brand, the other one is a Planar. I think its worth the investment, NO MORE GLARE and so easy on your eyes versus the big ole clunkers. and a 15" flat panel is exactly the same viewing as one of those big old 17-19" cluunkers that take up so much space.

Regarding wireless mouse/keyboard, i type non-stop almost 12 hours a day and I rarely have to replace the batteries - I use the Microsoft ergonomic wireless keyboard/mouse.
My poor mouse...
I'm surprised it's still going, as much as I use it out of frustration.  I find myself grabbing it and patting it VERY HARD on the pad over and over and over again, all while saying something to the tune of, "WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?"
Look at using a different keyboard and/or mouse. nm
nm
Never use the mouse, only hot keys. nm
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Did you try with a right mouse click instead
xx
Ergonomic mouse?
I have a Microsoft split keyboard, that helps my wrists, but I'm noticing that when I use my mouse a lot (which sometimes is half of my day), my elbow and forearm are getting sore.

Has anyone had this problem with a mouse (looked it up, and it's called "mouse elbow" similar to tennis elbow). If so, what was/is your solution? Looking at new keyboard with a built in keypad, and/or a different mouse or something, and wondered what anyone else has done.

Thanks!
Yes, but I have to use the mouse. But....am learning (sm)
more shortcut keys as I type!! Thanks!
Ergo mouse. sm
Does anyone know of a mouse that will reduce the squeeze-type action required and also the scrolling action?  If so, I need to get it ASAP.  Thanks.
Never used mouse before escription
and now useit constantly. I do not use the keys much except straight typing so clue me in as to why you would not use the mouse? I was started off on escription that way
Sorry having trouble with mouse
What I meant is this. When a hospital is first taken over by Dictaphone for example in the beginning all work is transcribed direct. Then after analysis phrases by doctors are saved. Then when the doctor has to actually use the VR equipment and his speech is totally not recognized an Editor goes in, teaches the machine what the phrase is, and over time, even when the doctor speaks unclear, the phrases has been entered by the editor. After a while, say in radiology especially, the VR totally kicks in and there is no editing needed by a live MT.  Thus you have eliminated jobs. That is the kind of training I mean. Training the system to not need us.  Our hospital has been promised zero transcription costs and zero means NO ONE will be paid. If zero is the cost to the hospital, then there is no editor needed anymore.  Sorry if I am bitter. I have just lost a business that I gave excellent service to and 7 people are out of work due to the spiel from these companies. My transcriptionists were paid 14 to 16 cents per line. What national will pay you that?
Never Use the Mouse with eScription
You should never need to use your mouse with eScription. You should learn all of the shortcut keys. With the shortcut keys, my editing rate is over 500 lines per hour.

As somebody else already said, you can get information on your rate and on the shortcut keys by logging into EditScript. When in EditScript, hit the internet button on the tool bar. From there go to MT tools and from there you can get your actual rate for using hot keys, etc.

It's easiest to start with just one of the short-cut keys. The most important is Alt-K.

crazy mouse - sm
My past experience with this has been a sure sign of spyware/adware or a virus.  If you have any programs to detect such, try running them and see what comes up.  Sorry to say, I wasn't very lucky with this problem and ended up getting a new PC because of a virus I couldn't eliminate.  I HOPE this is not your problem, but it sounds similar to what I had once.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but lets hope I'm wrong.
mouse bridge

Romey:  A mouse bridge is a plastic or metal covering that fits over the number pad of a keyboard.   When you are working it allows you to bring the mouse in closer so you don't have as much of a reach which can strain your wrists, shoulder and neck area.  It also elevates the mouse and keeps it line with your wrist and arm and that also helps with wrist pain.  You can Google mouse bridge and see what they look like.  They sell for about 20 dollars or so and can be found on Ebay, Amazon, etc.   For the microsoft 4000 the best one is the largest one they sell  because that keyboard is so big.


Because I was in so much pain I did tons of research and looked at what would make a difference in the desk set up.  Besides a good  chair and keyboard the mouse set up is also important.  The split keyboards force you to have a MUCH longer reach and that is not good.   One of the drawbacks of a split keyboard even if you are not mousing that much.   I know some people put their mouse up on the desk because with their big keyboards the mouse will no longer fit in the tray.  From an ergonomics perspective that is a big no-no!


The mouse I chose was the Evoluent mouse and it is a mouse that is turned on its side and puts your wrist in a "handshake" position so much less stress on the wrist.  Granted it is expensive but it saved my wrist.   When I tell you I had pain so bad I could not touch the keyboard in the morning and my whole hand was numb.  I thought I would have to give up transcribing and look at another career.  The keyboard and mouse change made all the difference!


mouse vs function
Am glad to see your post. My new second job took the mouse completely away from us (I am training inhouse for 2 months) and after a whole month I STILL constantly reach for the mouse LOL. Hoping it just gets to be habit to use function keys, but sure is frustrating and jerky!! Good luck to you!
re mouse free
Hi. I just want to encourage you and say yes it definitely can be done. Our hospital has upgraded to EditScript (ES) where we MTs have now become editors. About 80% of our day is editing ES drafts while 20% need to be straight transcribed. We now are now longer paid by hour but by production and this is the basis of their program to become mouse-free and productive. It is very slow going at first. The ES program gave us little cards with the function and we were given a little stand to place this on so each day we could focus on one shortcut a day. ES has its own shortcuts that they added for their program. It takes pure concentration as you transcribe and once you startdoing in on a regular basis, like everything else it will start to come natural for you. It definitely will save you time and make you more productive. Any time your hands are strayed away from the keyboards is nonproductive time. Good luck.