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Actually, it was my understanding that both arenas represent the

Posted By: SM on 2009-02-17
In Reply to: Despite your attempt at spin - Afghan and Iraq are 2 different wars.....nm - sm

"war on terrorism."  So in a sense, they are both the same war, just different theaters.


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Thank God you represent the minority of Americans.

That gives me a great deal of hope for the rest of us.


There are reports all over the media, both print and television, that Bush has known about this since at least Sunday.  I find it very suspicious that it was suddenly revealed the day after Lieberman lost to Lamont and after all the White House cronies made their rounds and used the Connecticut primary to once again accuse Democrats of being soft on terror.  (It should be noted that the Democrats are not soft on terror; they agree with wiretaps and other surveillance of suspected terrorists but they want it to be done within the boundaries of the LAW, something for which Bush the King has proven repeatedly he has no respect.) 


I agree with Lurker that the only reason I can believe this is because it came from another government.  We've had too many lies and cry wolf scare tactics from the Bush administration to believe anything he says.  He has zero credibility, and fortunately, reasonable and intelligent Americans are waking up to that fact.


This Joe the Plumber is supposed to represent

Well this is a quote from Joe the Plumber.


"The media's worried about whether I've paid my taxes, they're worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America," Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, "Huckabee."


This is what is so funny.  In Joe's eyes "taxes" are silly things.  So, you see he's not worried at all about his taxes being raised IF he were to purchase a company.  He thinks taxes are silly and have nothing to do with America.  So, you don't think we're footing this Joe the Plumber's bill already?????    He can't even pay his own taxes.  How will he ever purchase a company worth more than $250,000.00 with an "outstanding" bill?


then why is he sending people to represent him?
Seriously, I just heard a little blip on our news that he is sending 2 people to represent him- so why not go himself? they send he is sending someone else so as to distance himself from the turmoil but have some representation there who can't actually do anything. That's what was said.
It is his duty to represent his clients, but
if you will reread the OP, you will see, these were his VIEWS, his co-authored versions and interpretations. Yes, these were his beliefs and you better well remember it. He could care less that a 14-year-old girl has to have parental permission to get her ears pierced, just don't mess with her when it comes to getting an abortion! She has her rights you know.
Actually our representatives do represent the people
We vote the people in who we find we agree with most of their ideas. Therefore, if this is what the government has voted for they have gone with the people's wishes. I know the people who don't agree with same sex marriage will never believe it, but it's the truth. Hence, the legislators who have voted for this are going with what the people of their state want.

Equal rights for all human beings. Yeah, baby!!!!!!
Just a little clue for you far left Democrats. Thank GOD you don't represent
the mainstream Democrats.  Here's the clue.  The harder you try to remove God from our consciousness by any means, be it in the Pledge, or any other venue, the harder we will fight you. You WILL NOT remove God from us by any means as long as we live.  There are a whole LOT of Democrats who feel this way, too, so don't feel that just because you speak,you speak for them.  I feel sorry for you. I don't know where you comfort comes from.  I can't possibly imagine a world without God and his grace, forgiveness and love.  This is one battle you will not win.
Liberal rags do not represent at least half of the U.S.

You may base that on the fact that right now it's about 50/50 Obama versus McCain.  That doesn't mean that the liberal rags, liberal bloggers, MSNBC and the rest represent 50% of the people in our country.  Fortunately for the rest of us, there are democrafts who don't agree with the views of the liberal rags, with the tactics of the liberal bloggers, and with the extreme bias of a "news" organization such as MSNBC.  Most of the time when you can't document, it is because you are getting someone's OPINION, and not fact, and therefore, you cannot document.


These tea parties represent the people of the country
and how we feel. We are sick of the over-taxation. We are sick of the government not listening to us, spending like there's no tomorrow, and spending money they haven't even printed yet. Then on top of that we're being taxed more and more so they can send it oversees to other countries all while doing Jack sh!t for the Americans. What's next that people who work will not get paid anymore, 100% will go to taxes or maybe we'll get $8 a month (like Cuba) to make us feel like we're getting something for all the hard work we do. There's more to these tea parties than that. You think people's lives being ruined by what government is doing to us is funny? There are over a million people who are involving themselves in the tea parties. Government is supposed to be "for the people". It is not. They are for themselves and screw the people. The governors of each state need to recall these pieces of garbage they sent to DC, because they are no longer representing us (the people who voted for them), they are for themselves and they care less about us.

Did you think the million man march was hilarious also? How about the original Boston Tea Party? Stamp Act? Oh, hey I guess you think the civil war was hysterical too.

I heard a show yesterday that CNN and MSLSD are not participating in the tea parties. What better way to say "screw the American people and the country. We don't care what they have to say". However, you know that if there was a party where everyone in this country was excited and wanted to pay more in taxes and was for bigger government, etc. CNN and MSLSD would be the first to be reporting it.

MSLSD is so far off on what is really happening in this country I'd like to see them go off the air. Maddow, Olberman, Matthews, etc. They're all a bunch of whiny @ss punks who are throwing a tantrum because their station is losing millions of dollars because more people are turning to stations that will give them the truth, and are turning off CNN & MSLSD.


No they absolutely do NOT represent the citizens of this country
So pompous and self-righteous.

I think Bush's administration was the joke, since you asked. At least now we have someone intelligent and not self-absorbed.

I suffered through the abomination of the Bush administration in silence. You bet your sweet bippy I'm celebrating Obama's presidency and the return to power of the Democratic party. I hope to GOD I never see the likes of Dumbya as president again!!!
My understanding (sm)

My understanding is that his name was not on the ballot in MI because he did not want it on the ballot.  Anyway, you would have to research that further.  I can't remember the reasoning behind that.


About the FL and MI delegates, I think the reason for the meeting is because the party understands that they will need those voters come November.  There were something like 2 million votes cast, so they don't want to push those people aside.  It could come back to haunt them.  Also, my understanding is that what the candidates agreed to regarding FL and MI was not to campaign in those states, or not to campaign heavily, and I think they stood by that agreement.


As far as legends in their own mind and all of that, I don't agree.  Bill Clinton is loved by many, whether we agree or disagree - it's a fact.  I think that is true for most US presidents.


Thanks for understanding
I'm glad someone understands what I'm saying.

I'm also saying I support Obama but I don't support congress. I don't think congress is working for the best of the American people, they are working for what is best for them.

If in a couple months or so we get out of this I will gladly come on the board and say how wrong I was, but if we don't and it keeps getting worse I will say so.

P.S. - Can't you support Obama without supporting the crooked democratic politicians? (I already don't support crooked republican politicians).
My understanding is

that these contractual bonuses are based on individual or department performance, not company performance overall. 


If a sales person or department manager agrees to a base salary and the rest of  his compensation to be bonuses based on sales figures or some other measure of performance, then meets/surpasses those figures, the company is obliged to honor that contract, regardless what other departments or the company as a whole does. 


If my MTSO offers a bonus for surpassing a line production figure, what justice is there to withholding that from me because the sales department is not signing enough new accounts, the IT department is not resolving technical problems, the billing or payroll department is making too many errors - again - etc.? 


If a company as a whole is failing everybody eventually loses.  But individuals who are performing as agreed by contract should at least receive the compensation they have earned.  Change the rules later, not in the middle of the game. 


From my understanding....(sm)

No, they didn't get put into the closet.  As far as relationships go, they were more worried about social status than gender.  There is a ton of literature on these relationships, but very little about them being shunned, which leads me to the conclusion that it was either overlooked, accepted, or most likely just not an issue.


As far as Sodom and Gomorrha go, well you can call it the hand of God, or you can call it a volcano.  I tend to go with the latter.  However, it is interesting to note that the word "sodomy" originated from "Sodom" (derived from traditional christian usage).


What part of this are you not understanding

I just read a bunch of posts below and am not disturbed, but maybe dismayed is a better word.  Whether you trust Obama or not because of his policies, voting record, political life, or whatever is your perogative (sp?), but to incorrectly be making statements not based on anything but milicious rumors spread around leads readers to believe the writer is a biggot and just does not want a black man (which I should state once more 1/2 black, 1/2 white) in the white house.  I have no doubt if more of the white race came out and he looked more white than black a lot of this would not be surfacing.


First - Obama is NOT muslim.  You can think all you want and hope it to be true but what part of the facts don't you understand.  How many times does he have to repeat he is a Christian.  Always has been.  Raised in a Christian home, white grandparents, white mother, went to catholic school, attended a Baptist church, married in a church (not Moslim), children baptised in a church.  To say he is a muslim is like saying McCain belongs to KKK after all he's a white dude.  Pullease.  Sure, his father was a muslim when he married Obama's mother but that's where it stops.  Obama never studied the muslim religon or went to muslim services.  My parents are catholics but I was not raised catholic and am not catholic.  His mother later remarried someone from Indonesia and Obama attended a catholic school.  Get your facts straight.  He never went to a muslim school or studied muslim studies and he is not muslim.  So what if the muslims like him, so do the Christians, Jews, Mormoms, Baptists, and many other religions!


Second of all on the flag thing.  Obama's plane has the American flag on it, are you upset because the flag is not so huge it covers the plane from one end to the next?  There's a flag there!  Also, just because he doesn't have an american flag plastered all over the place on everything does not mean he is not "American".  Have you seen him pledge to a flag of another country?  No, he pledges to the American flag!  As for the picture that he is standing not with his hand over his heart.  I can't tell you how many times I've said the pledge of allegience and I didn't have my hand over my heart every time.  Doesn't mean I'm not American.  He's not trying to get rid of the American flag, but for pete's sake it doesn't need to be plastered in every square inch of empty space. 


The poster who is not well informed about Obama's religion and trying to scare people into believing he's muslim when he's not is just plain wrong.  It doesn't "ruffle any feathers" because you are just wrong.  You may not want to "sugar coat any facts" but first you need to get the facts straight.  People don't "hate" republicans, and certainly not enough that they would want "anything" in there.  You could always put that statement on the other foot "People just hate the democrats so much they'll elect an old senile person to fill the position just as long as a democrat doesn't get in there".  That excuse just doesn't sit well.


I'm no "Obama-lover" and I won't be voting for him but not because of malicious rumors on the internet or false statements made by the republican side.  I'm basing my decision on his voting records and other issues that I don't agree with him on, certainly not from anything I get off the internet.  You know there are people on both sides who hate the other candidate so much they are posting fall information, but for anyone to spread this...all I can say is "shame on you".


Well, thanks for finally understanding what I was saying.
Hitler maybe, but I'd have to think about that one for a while.
my understanding of the situation...
My understanding is that Obama says this is a practice that can be regulated at the state level. The federal government is just making sure that abortion stays legal and then the individual states decide how far their state will go with it.
From my understanding, the jobs

created would only be temporary. Don't forget, road and bridge construction only lasts in the summer in the northern states, and when those road and bridge jobs are done, what's next?


The money being doled out for infrastructure is definitely not enough. There are many, many roads and bridges that have to be built/rebuilt in the country and any one of them would cost $1 million and up.  PA is getting $2.7M for roads. Is that going to take care of the roads? Doubt it. Headlines recenty in our paper stated PA was going to get $6B. I checked the charts and don't see where he gets that figure.


What's missing here is your understanding of this thread....
it is about infants born alive after botched abortions and left to die without care. Partial birth abortion is when they turn the baby around in the womb, let all but the head be born, then stick a needle in base of skull and suck the brain out to collapse the skull and make sure the baby is dead before it comes out, to avoid that pesky being born alive thing that proabortion people so hate.

At least get your facts straight and know what you are denying before you deny it.

And yes, he does support partial birth abortion. He supports removing the ban on that heinous procedure. His wife sent out a campaign letter while he was running for senate in Illinois that said that very thing.

Sheesh.
I'm not understanding the meaning of your post
Actually it almost sounds like something Hemmingway would write. HA HA. Anyway...just confused by the post. Are you talking about the record breaking snowfalls and bone chilling cold spells all over the world (oh so not global warming), or are you refering to the incoming president, and the last part of the post just lost me. Please explain.
People with a lot more understanding and empathy than
.
So, I have trouble understanding abstract ideas AND

I have no sense of humor.  Anybody else? 


Better read up on that homebuyers' tax credit, as you have zero understanding of how it works.
NM