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Agreed 100%. If McCain can't take charge of his own campaign

Posted By: how can he be trusted to lead country? nm on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: I think it is way too late now to make a change...sm - oldtimer

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Obama's campaign called McCain's campaign.
This was reported an hour or two before McCain had his little news conference.  Shouldn't take to heart too much of what McCain says as he is a known liar.
McCain and Obama agreed that religion and family were off limits - nm
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Why doesn't McCain campaign let
her talk to the media!?  Apparently they are afraid of her.
He is McCain's campaign manager

He went to Freddie Mac and used McCain's name was given a consulting contract because FM did not want to offend McCain.  No work was done, but payments contined to Rick Davis until last month.  Wow, this is explosive stuff.


 


That was McCain's campaign promise...
McCain promised "line-by-line", Obama promised "reform." Also, it is against the constitution (via Supreme Court) for the president to "line-by-line" - they can only sign or veto - that's it.
Mccain current campaign manager

 Seems Rick Davis was paid $30,000 a month - for five years - as president of "an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations," according to the International Herald Tribune.


 


 


McCain suspending campaign due to crisis ...sm
John McCain is looking like a leader today. I wonder if Obama will follow his lead.....



McCain suspending campaign due to crisis


Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political Editor September 24, 2008 03:07 PM

Saying that the Wall Street bailout plan is in jeopardy and the US economy at stake, John McCain said today that he is suspending his presidential campaign on Thursday and called for postponing the first presidential debate on Friday night.

"It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration’s proposal," he said in New York. "I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.

"Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.

"I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."

Obama spokesman Bill Burton just issued a statement: "At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."


"We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis."


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/mccain_suspendi.html






If McCain campaign strategy is so effective,

George Will –



  1. "McCain loses his head." 

  2. "McCain childish, shallow, unfit for presidency."

  3. "McCain in a Glass House." 

  4. "McCain flustered rookie playing in a league too high."

  5. Compares McCain to the ultimate drama queen (Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland) /"off with his head" mentality after McCain says that Chris Cox of the SEC should be "decapitated."

  6. "…McCain showed us his personality this week and made some of us fearful." 

  7. "McCain shows he's not presidential."

  8. VP pick "female Sancho Panza." 

Charles Krauthammer –



  1. McCain VP pick "near suicidal."

  2. "Bush Begat McCain."

  3. McCain's "hidden agenda:  To kill the United Nations."

  4. McCain has "Tempted fate one time too many."

  5. "McCain is going down."

  6. "Obama will be president."

  7. "McCain's 100-year war."

  8. "How many Hail-Mary's can one man throw?"

Ross Perot –



  1. McCain's "classic opportunist, always reaching for attention and glory." 

  2. Perot weighs in on the POW issue after paying for Carol McCain's medical bills following her horrible car wreck:  After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history." 

  3. McCain, "unusually slick and cruel."

  4. Cindy bails John out of gambling debts.


William/Bill Kristol –



  1. Time for McCain to fire his entire campaign.    

  2. McCain campaign is "stupid, pathetic, flailing."

  3. "Palin represents a cancer on the Republican Party.  She is not even close to being qualified for the office she's seeking."

  4. McCain has "derangement syndrome."

  5. McCain should "stop unveiling gimmicky proposals every couple of days that pretend to deal with the financial crisis."

Joe McCain (John's brother) –



  1. Pleading with campaign advisors to change strategy:  "Let John McCain be John McCain."

  2. Loosening the tight (campaign) message control is needed because it has become "counter-productive"  and "counter-intuitive."

  3. The campaign needs to make new ads that show John "not as crank and curmudgeon."

  4. Decision to clamp down on press contact with intimates of the Arizona senator is "causing gangrene."

Ed Rollins –



  1. McCain's prospects on winning the presidency have "vanished."

  2. "You have to go give an alternative on the economy,"  To do otherwise could "give the Democrats not only the White House but sweeping congressional victories and a potentially filibuster-proof super-majority in the Senate." 

  3. Has voiced his concern over a possible Obama "landslide."

McCain cheapens his campaign with the plumber sm
McCain Pals With Plumber, Cheapens Campaign: Margaret Carlson

Commentary by Margaret Carlson


Oct. 17 (Bloomberg) -- You'd hope a process that we've had 40 years to improve would be better than our presidential debates. We've tweaked around the edges, and one moderator beats a panel of them. Bob Schieffer did a superior job and was persistent at Wednesday night's debate. Yet no moderator is ever going to get the candidates to talk to each other, much less look one another in the eye.

Why not no moderator? It worked for the Lincoln-Douglas debates, where people stood in the hot sun for hours to listen.

The most dispiriting thing to come out of the debate was the morning after. I woke to see Joe Wurzelbacher's street in Holland, Ohio, lit up like Times Square with network and cable satellite trucks clogging the place.

I thought the press was beyond 23 mentions of Joe the Plumber by one candidate and three by the other, while Asian markets were dropping 10 percent and the Dow has been diving.

Unless he starts making courtesy calls to fix the running toilets of the journalists making him famous, let's relegate Joe the Plumber back to the playroom with Bob the Builder or the 15- minute hall of fame with Harry and Louise and Ross Perot's crazy aunt in the attic.

Here's the reason for Joe: McCain has no argument left except that no one should have to pay taxes, and that Obama isn't one of us.

Distasteful Tactics

He gave up the experience argument by choosing Sarah Palin. By his own admission, McCain was never on top of the economy, and his performance since the financial crisis began, lurching from one pronouncement to another, proved his self-assessment right.

What McCain has instead are the distasteful tactics pressed on him by his consultants, the very ones who defamed him in his 2000 race for the presidency.

That's where ``Obama is palling around with terrorists'' comes from. It's why in the final debate, more time was spent on a radical bomb-thrower from the ླྀs, William Ayers, than Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and his so-far-unsuccessful attempts to stop a market meltdown.

At first, I thought McCain was going to drop Ayers when he said he didn't care about ``an old, washed-up terrorist.'' Then he pivoted and demanded to know ``the full extent'' of his relationship with Obama.

Happy to Oblige

Obama was happy to oblige. Ayers, who committed his violent acts when Obama was a boy, is not and never has been involved in his campaign. Obama condemned his ``despicable acts'' and pointed out that he once served on a board with Ayers that was filled with Republican luminaries and funded by another one, Walter Annenberg. Thanks to McCain, Obama got to explain that before 30 million people.

McCain also gave Obama a chance to answer another charge. McCain is trying to make an oak out of Acorn, a community- organizing group that runs voter-registration drives. McCain said Acorn was about to perpetrate the biggest voter fraud in history, ``destroying the fabric of democracy.''

Acorn doesn't register voters; only state officials can do that. The false names collected are easy to spot. It's an urban myth that Donald Duck and Harry Potter end up voting. The ones that slip through are infinitesimal.

Old Hat

Obama explained his prior association. ``I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department'' enforcing the Illinois motor-voter law.

It's old hat for Republicans to cry voter fraud just the way Democrats cry voter suppression for purged lists, long lines and election-day challenges. If I show up on the list as Margaret B. Carlson but I've since dropped the B and have a driver's license that says Margaret Carlson, I might be turned away.

Most of McCain's anger was non-verbal -- in his tense, coiled body, eye-rolls, sniffing, and forced smiles. He had to know Ayers wasn't going to work. But there comes a moment when a candidate has to fluff up the base or find himself lonely.

Already, McCain has lost the support of some brand-name conservatives with his choice of Palin as a running mate. The latest is author Christopher Buckley, who had to resign from National Review, the magazine his father, William Buckley, founded, for his apostasy.

Following Rush

With Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity attacking Ayers for three weeks, McCain would have been fired by his own party before the election if he'd held back.

I'm not sure he can count on Palin anymore. She told Limbaugh she had nothing to lose, and she's acting like it. She was openly critical of McCain's decision to pull out of Michigan, and insisted that she and her husband would happily campaign there.

She's supposed to wield a hatchet, not throw bombs. The one genuine emotional moment in the debate came when McCain said how saddened he was about Representative John Lewis's reaction to the hateful language at Palin's rallies. Obama agreed that Lewis went too far in coupling McCain with George Wallace, but the rebuke stung.

Only a short time ago, McCain had named Lewis as one of his heroes.

Those writing McCain's obituary (which I'm not; he lost the debates not the election) wrongly say that Palin wins no matter what. The campaign has revealed a petty politician who misused her office, got revenge on her enemies, turned on fellow Republicans when it suited her ambitions, and violated ethics laws by trying to get her brother-in-law fired.

McCain's best chance of winning is by doing what he did when his campaign was pronounced dead last year. Fire people. Drop the cheap shots. Go out on your own and barnstorm the country. Be serious about the broken country President George W. Bush is leaving us. Reclaim the patrimony of the McCains and win -- or lose -- with honor.

McCain must be recovering from his campaign hangover
and rediscovering his intelligence.
FEC Queries McCain Campaign on 'Excessive Contributions'
McCain and Palin have also had to return donations. Are you conveniently unaware of that?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/fec_queries_mccain_campaign_on.html?hpid=topnews
McCain diverted money from campaign funds


McCain Campaign Paid Republican Operative

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4992730.ece


"Fooling people was the key to the job" according to one worker.


You are wrong. Karl Rove is working FOR the McCain campaign.
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Who put you in charge?
Just because you decided to commemorate 9/11 by not posting on the forum today does not mean that we all have to follow your orders. Maybe some of us have more pertinent ways to commemorate this day. We are all free to choose whether we want to post on the forum today or not. Apparently, you felt free to post a message chastising others.
he is not in charge right now ....looks like it is up to us to help each other
And I am sure that those people will be counting on the charities that are already in place to get through the winter and holidays.
Exactly! O wants to be in charge, yet be
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Is Ted Kennedy in charge..
of how many evacuees his state takes in?  I guess I didn't realize that!  Could you explain that further?
Ted Kenney in charge

we'd all end up dead in a watery grave!  


What I want to know is who left you in charge?
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Who put you in charge of sway?
nm
We are not in charge of the world, sam.
nm
Has Obama ever been in charge of anything that
nm
Who has been in charge of the economy for the

Democrats own congress....... they are the ones responsible for the complete mess of this economy.   But because there is a republican president, the republicans get the blame. 


Republican president really can't get anything done with an all democrat congress. 


Who put you in charge of focus, Sam?
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I am glad you are not in charge of that
right where it should. You are admitting to being a smoker now. You really should look back over your posts for the past few months and see what a profile you have painted of yourself!
Looks like Rush is still in charge...LOL

Rush Limbaugh critic Kevin Stevenson ousted as Marathon County Republican Party spokesman



By Robert Mentzer • Wausau Daily Herald • June 2, 2009


The Republican Party of Marathon County has stripped its spokesman of his title less than three months after he wrote a column critical of conservative talk radio star Rush Limbaugh.





Kevin Stevenson said he believes his March guest column in the Wausau Daily Herald criticizing Limbaugh turned local party members against him.

"They felt I was too moderate in what I was speaking and printing," he said.


Stevenson, who characterizes himself as a "John McCain-type of Republican," said the conflict was a microcosm of a national debate about what political message to put forward. A debate at a local Republican meeting on Thursday "got hostile and it got personal," he said.


When Stevenson criticized Limbaugh for saying he wanted President Barack Obama to fail, other local Republicans wrote to the newspaper, arguing that conservatives ought to want Obama's policies to fail.


"This is just part of what you're seeing nationwide," he said. "(Party members) know that I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is hurting us more than helping us."


Kevin Hermening, the local Republican Party treasurer and a past president, said although Stevenson's columns were circulated among the party's executive committee, they did not always represent the views of most members.


“He was sharing a moderate view in his columns, which I think is terrific,” Hermening said. "If the leadership had wanted a more moderate position, we would have let him (continue)."


Stevenson, who lives in Lincoln County, was removed when the party adopted a new interpretation of residency -- but he said he considered that an excuse. Stevenson had previously been included because he owns land in neighboring Marathon County.


Party Chairman Joe Wachtel said he disagreed with the decision to remove Stevenson as spokesman, but that he also disagreed with a moderate position.


"I don't think the Republican Party and the conservative movement is going to be served by being Democrat-lite," Wachtel said.


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Side note:  I wonder if Rush is going to kick Nancy Reagan out of the party since she said nice things about Pelosi......ROFL.


Pretty weak charge if you ask me.

It'll probably be dropped in a few days but not until the media is allowed to have their way with them, and the liberal bloggers tar and feather him.  Does anyone remember travelgate and the Clinton land deal scandals.  I'm sure you dems/liberals don't recall that at all....


Before you start condemning one Republican politician to hell you better take a look into your own party's closet.


JM is totally innocent of this same charge?
publically stepped up and appealed to his supporters to rein it in. O at least tries to do this when he sees tings getting out of hand.
False charge exposed
RE: Obama filed lawsuit that "bullied" banks into giving risky loans.

Buycks-Roberson vs CitiBank Federal Savings Bank 1994. This was a class action lawuit which sought to challenge the practice of redlining, based on the 14th Amendment requirement of "fair and equal treatment for all citizens." The lawsuit charged that CitiBank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories. This was settled out of court. Some class members received cash payments and CitiBank revised its discriminatory lending practice policies.

The action was brought against a single bank…CitiBank, though redlining was a widespread practice at the time. Obama DID NOT FILE this lawsuit. He was a junior member of an 8-member team that worked on the case. The lead attorney for CitiBank does not recall ever seeing Obama in the court during the proceedings. Obama charged a total of 2 hours and 50 minutes for his work on the case for reviewing some documents before a deposition and appeared ONCE before the judge to request an extension of time for filing a response to a motion in the case.

This decision did not "force banks" to do anything except to process minority loan applications the same as they were processing loans to white applicants. If this outcome in any way contributed to the mortgage crisis some 14 years later, it would be based on the fact that the banks were already handing out those "bad loans" hand-over-fist to the white applicants…a practice they agreed to extend to ALL applicants as "fair and equal treatment" under the 14th Amendment.

Once the facts get a thorough look-see, it becomes evident that the charges the McCain camp are trying to lay on Obama are (surprise, surprise) patently false.

Who do you propose should be in charge of deciding
You are not in charge of punishing Dr. Ayers...it is a legal matter that evidently was resolved 4 decades ago. Since that time he has become a contributing member of society and it would be a waste of talent to shun him and brand him with a scarlet letter.
Where is it documented that the man in charge of the bailout...
is Muslim? He's Indian-American by all I can find out. Would not matter if he was Muslim; however, I can't find anything credible saying that he is.
Palin is very intelligent and actually been in charge
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Whose in charge of this anti-IQ crusade?
An ineffective tactic to use to try to excuse a sitting president's white matter deficit.
Really? Then why are they all still in charge of the purse strings?
They are set to dig us into a bigger, bottomless pit of liberal pet programs and bailouts and stimulus.
It will only get much worse with Obama in charge
He promotes that divide.....he just has a sneaky way of doing it. He lets others do their talking up there, while he says nothing against their racist remarks. The NAACP for instance was formed way back when but really has no place in our society today. Now think about this......if there were a group for ONLY whites (and I don't mean the KKK) which is no doubt where many minds will go, wouldn't there be an uproar about that. They would be called racists....how dare they promote WHITE opportunities, jobs, educations, etc. You're right, forming special interest groups does nothing to promite equality, but I can guarantee you will see more and more racists things coming down the pike; just hide and watch.

So far, they have singled out white males to not give jobs to.....now if a leader sat up there and said those same words about blacks, it would hit the fan and you know it.....

Funny how the liberals just sit up and there and keep their mouths shut, most of them all the way to being without a job, as they are white males as well.
Once again, class, WHO is in charge of the military?
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Matters not one whit....he is now in charge of
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Just wondrin' Patty: Who put you in charge . . .
of deciding what is a "sound" law or not?  LOL
As long as Obama is in charge, you better believe it
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Bush is NOT in charge of the stock market

Wall Street,. Nancy Pelosi, Barney Fife, and the others are making it worse with all their stupid ideas.


They WANT this to happen and give more stimulus checks to people so the people will think they are the greatest since apple pie. 


I don't see any of them trying to figure out what to do that will help us except throw money away to the groups that are keeping the money to pay their bonuses and take trips.


I read your post and thank goodness you are not in charge sm
Do you not understand that it is not okay to imprison people who are innocent? Do you not understand that his is a human rights issue that affects each and every one of us on this planet? Do you think beyond your own fears?
Answer me!

Who put the libs on this board in charge of free speech?
Joe has the right of free speech too. He asked a simple question, which Obama freely answered outlining socialism 101, and what did Joe get for that? A background check! And you can hail free speech and be okay with that in the same breath? Your hypocrisy is showing...and showing...and showing.

And you keep trying, and unsucessfully, to deflect from the true point. Understandably, because your focus is the big "O", the truthgiver, the one who will save the world. LOL. Free speech indeed. You don't believe in free speech unless it benefits you and the big "O."

Nothing in my post said anything about free speech. It just tried (and in vain I understand)...to stay on point...Obama's ANSWER.
guess that's not as bad as 'VP is in charge of the Senate' ...Palin NM
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my paper said highest number in 14 years - who was in charge then?
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Really? Pubs in charge of the purse strings? What planet
...no wonder we're in this mess, and it will only get worse.
Agreed. nm
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Yes, agreed.
Will ignore them and not read them.  I feel better already.
Agreed
Of course not everyone feels the same, but there are a large enough number of current and former military that do feel that way. Not everyone thinks this was/is a valuable effort, and feel the cost is high, both financially and otherwise.
Agreed, but we need to take it one war
If we can't take on a little po-dunk country like Afghanistan and finish the job, then what on earth makes him think we can take on TWO countries simultaneously? (And we'll never finish the job in Iraq, either.) If we'd done what we SHOULD have done to Afghanistan after 9/11, we could have finished the job in a couple of days, and sent a HUGE 'Don't mess with us' message to the rest of the Middle East.
agreed :) nm
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