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JM is totally innocent of this same charge?

Posted By: Show me one time he has...sm on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: Oh I see...he lets his minions do the gutter of mud for him... - sam

publically stepped up and appealed to his supporters to rein it in. O at least tries to do this when he sees tings getting out of hand.


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Who put you in charge?
Just because you decided to commemorate 9/11 by not posting on the forum today does not mean that we all have to follow your orders. Maybe some of us have more pertinent ways to commemorate this day. We are all free to choose whether we want to post on the forum today or not. Apparently, you felt free to post a message chastising others.
he is not in charge right now ....looks like it is up to us to help each other
And I am sure that those people will be counting on the charities that are already in place to get through the winter and holidays.
Exactly! O wants to be in charge, yet be
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Is Ted Kennedy in charge..
of how many evacuees his state takes in?  I guess I didn't realize that!  Could you explain that further?
Ted Kenney in charge

we'd all end up dead in a watery grave!  


What I want to know is who left you in charge?
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Who put you in charge of sway?
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We are not in charge of the world, sam.
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Has Obama ever been in charge of anything that
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Who has been in charge of the economy for the

Democrats own congress....... they are the ones responsible for the complete mess of this economy.   But because there is a republican president, the republicans get the blame. 


Republican president really can't get anything done with an all democrat congress. 


Who put you in charge of focus, Sam?
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I am glad you are not in charge of that
right where it should. You are admitting to being a smoker now. You really should look back over your posts for the past few months and see what a profile you have painted of yourself!
Looks like Rush is still in charge...LOL

Rush Limbaugh critic Kevin Stevenson ousted as Marathon County Republican Party spokesman



By Robert Mentzer • Wausau Daily Herald • June 2, 2009


The Republican Party of Marathon County has stripped its spokesman of his title less than three months after he wrote a column critical of conservative talk radio star Rush Limbaugh.





Kevin Stevenson said he believes his March guest column in the Wausau Daily Herald criticizing Limbaugh turned local party members against him.

"They felt I was too moderate in what I was speaking and printing," he said.


Stevenson, who characterizes himself as a "John McCain-type of Republican," said the conflict was a microcosm of a national debate about what political message to put forward. A debate at a local Republican meeting on Thursday "got hostile and it got personal," he said.


When Stevenson criticized Limbaugh for saying he wanted President Barack Obama to fail, other local Republicans wrote to the newspaper, arguing that conservatives ought to want Obama's policies to fail.


"This is just part of what you're seeing nationwide," he said. "(Party members) know that I don't agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is hurting us more than helping us."


Kevin Hermening, the local Republican Party treasurer and a past president, said although Stevenson's columns were circulated among the party's executive committee, they did not always represent the views of most members.


“He was sharing a moderate view in his columns, which I think is terrific,” Hermening said. "If the leadership had wanted a more moderate position, we would have let him (continue)."


Stevenson, who lives in Lincoln County, was removed when the party adopted a new interpretation of residency -- but he said he considered that an excuse. Stevenson had previously been included because he owns land in neighboring Marathon County.


Party Chairman Joe Wachtel said he disagreed with the decision to remove Stevenson as spokesman, but that he also disagreed with a moderate position.


"I don't think the Republican Party and the conservative movement is going to be served by being Democrat-lite," Wachtel said.


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Side note:  I wonder if Rush is going to kick Nancy Reagan out of the party since she said nice things about Pelosi......ROFL.


I did not say innocent.........
She opted to have all of the eggs implanted (not the norm and outside ethical responsibility). They erroneously thought she had 7 viable fetuses (the 8th was hidden somewhere.....). The doc should have pushed for selective termination to reduce the number. The fact that she chose to carry them all to term indicates to me that she is short a few fries of a happy meal. I suspect she knew she would make headlines and that would ignite support from all over in the form of gifts, cash, etc., so she could continue her "puppy mill" in relative financial comfort. I still stand by the assumption she's nuts and the doc made a huge mistake.
I know that innocent

people have gone through horrible things when they were wrongly accused, etc.  However, there are so many more of them that are guilty.  My biggest problem with the death penalty is that it is so expensive.  A rope or a bullet is a lot cheaper than lethal injections.  I personally feel that if we were harsher on prisoners....more of them would stop doing it.  A three strikes your out kind of thing.  We have so many prisons that are overcrowded that criminals, rapists, etc. are being send out early risking many more innocent lives that way. 


Pretty weak charge if you ask me.

It'll probably be dropped in a few days but not until the media is allowed to have their way with them, and the liberal bloggers tar and feather him.  Does anyone remember travelgate and the Clinton land deal scandals.  I'm sure you dems/liberals don't recall that at all....


Before you start condemning one Republican politician to hell you better take a look into your own party's closet.


False charge exposed
RE: Obama filed lawsuit that "bullied" banks into giving risky loans.

Buycks-Roberson vs CitiBank Federal Savings Bank 1994. This was a class action lawuit which sought to challenge the practice of redlining, based on the 14th Amendment requirement of "fair and equal treatment for all citizens." The lawsuit charged that CitiBank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories. This was settled out of court. Some class members received cash payments and CitiBank revised its discriminatory lending practice policies.

The action was brought against a single bank…CitiBank, though redlining was a widespread practice at the time. Obama DID NOT FILE this lawsuit. He was a junior member of an 8-member team that worked on the case. The lead attorney for CitiBank does not recall ever seeing Obama in the court during the proceedings. Obama charged a total of 2 hours and 50 minutes for his work on the case for reviewing some documents before a deposition and appeared ONCE before the judge to request an extension of time for filing a response to a motion in the case.

This decision did not "force banks" to do anything except to process minority loan applications the same as they were processing loans to white applicants. If this outcome in any way contributed to the mortgage crisis some 14 years later, it would be based on the fact that the banks were already handing out those "bad loans" hand-over-fist to the white applicants…a practice they agreed to extend to ALL applicants as "fair and equal treatment" under the 14th Amendment.

Once the facts get a thorough look-see, it becomes evident that the charges the McCain camp are trying to lay on Obama are (surprise, surprise) patently false.

Who do you propose should be in charge of deciding
You are not in charge of punishing Dr. Ayers...it is a legal matter that evidently was resolved 4 decades ago. Since that time he has become a contributing member of society and it would be a waste of talent to shun him and brand him with a scarlet letter.
Where is it documented that the man in charge of the bailout...
is Muslim? He's Indian-American by all I can find out. Would not matter if he was Muslim; however, I can't find anything credible saying that he is.
Palin is very intelligent and actually been in charge
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Whose in charge of this anti-IQ crusade?
An ineffective tactic to use to try to excuse a sitting president's white matter deficit.
Really? Then why are they all still in charge of the purse strings?
They are set to dig us into a bigger, bottomless pit of liberal pet programs and bailouts and stimulus.
It will only get much worse with Obama in charge
He promotes that divide.....he just has a sneaky way of doing it. He lets others do their talking up there, while he says nothing against their racist remarks. The NAACP for instance was formed way back when but really has no place in our society today. Now think about this......if there were a group for ONLY whites (and I don't mean the KKK) which is no doubt where many minds will go, wouldn't there be an uproar about that. They would be called racists....how dare they promote WHITE opportunities, jobs, educations, etc. You're right, forming special interest groups does nothing to promite equality, but I can guarantee you will see more and more racists things coming down the pike; just hide and watch.

So far, they have singled out white males to not give jobs to.....now if a leader sat up there and said those same words about blacks, it would hit the fan and you know it.....

Funny how the liberals just sit up and there and keep their mouths shut, most of them all the way to being without a job, as they are white males as well.
Once again, class, WHO is in charge of the military?
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Matters not one whit....he is now in charge of
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Just wondrin' Patty: Who put you in charge . . .
of deciding what is a "sound" law or not?  LOL
As long as Obama is in charge, you better believe it
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If Rove is innocent
why didnt he come forward before now and state what actually went down?  Because of his silence, Judith Miller is in jail, Matthew Cooper was threatened with jail, thousands of tax dollars have been spent on a Grand Jury and a special prosecutor and now quite possibly a trial. 
Yes, he was acquitted. But he was not innocent....
we all know that. We saw him commit perjury. National TV. Yes, my fangs are showing. I don't like it when Pres of US flaunts the law and Congress lets him get away with it. Actually, I blame Congress just as much, but sides of the house, because they did not have the integrity NOR the guts to convict him. At least when Nixon was proven to be guilty he still had a modicum of decency and resigned. Clinton did not have enough class OR integrity to do the same. 'Nuff said.
Oh of course....in the land where you are innocent if...
proven not guilty...you are seizing on poor judgment. Don't you think it is poor judgment to consort with terrorists and spend 20 years in an america-hating church? This is not bad judgment? McCain did not cost us anything. Keating, the one who perpetrated the financial debacle...is responsible for that loss.
Innocent people s/m
I hear that there is not a guilty person in prison.  Another thing that needs fixed in our government at  all levels, justice depends on how much money you have.  I really, really doubt that there are that many truly innocent people on death row.  I think that before an execution, there should be absolutely no doubt about guilt.  Say O.J. and Scott Peterson.  Don't you think they deserve the death penalty.  Well, I know that O.J. was found not guilty but no doubt in my mind he was guilty as sin.
Good, they might be innocent. sm
They call Americans who quote the constitution or dissent terrorists.
Just like all those innocent folks were
due process. . .preach some of your idiocracy to their survivors.
I do not think that she was an innocent guinea pig....sm
How would you have reacted being informed within a couple of weeks by US that you will deliver not 1, but e i g h t babies, in addition to already having 6 ?

Wouldn't you have asked for a termination?



Do you also defend the innocent

people in our local prisons because I'm sure that there are a few in there who are actually innocent......however, most of them are NOT.


As for me not knowing for sure whether they were indeed tortured or not......how do you know that they were tortured?  Were you there?  Did you talk to them?  Do you have a pin pal at Gitmo, do ya?


I'm sure there are some innocent men at Gitmo but this is war.  It was war when the terrorists killed thousands of Americans in one day and then celebrated their actions.  We have gone from a 9/11 mentality to a pre 9/11 mentality.  We seem to have forgetten that we were attacked and that these people desire nothing more than our death. 


these 4 are innocent Gitmos.............sm
' The four were among 17 Chinese Muslims, or Uighurs, picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2001. They remained at the military detention center in Cuba

even after the U.S. government had determined they weren't enemy combatants and should be released.

Their fate was in limbo for months while courts and nations debated their future.'



Agreed 100%. If McCain can't take charge of his own campaign
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Bush is NOT in charge of the stock market

Wall Street,. Nancy Pelosi, Barney Fife, and the others are making it worse with all their stupid ideas.


They WANT this to happen and give more stimulus checks to people so the people will think they are the greatest since apple pie. 


I don't see any of them trying to figure out what to do that will help us except throw money away to the groups that are keeping the money to pay their bonuses and take trips.


I read your post and thank goodness you are not in charge sm
Do you not understand that it is not okay to imprison people who are innocent? Do you not understand that his is a human rights issue that affects each and every one of us on this planet? Do you think beyond your own fears?
Answer me!

I'm not talking about innocent people

I'm talking about people who raping, pillaging, setting fires, shooting rescuers, and stealing ambulances.  I have heard of no one but you defending this though I'm sure there's a minority fringe like you who are such as Molly Ivins etc.  I think your post revealed to me how out of the mainstream of thinking you are. 


By the way, New Orleans had one of the highest crime rates in the country before the hurricane.  There are people from that city who are freely admitting that there were places you didn't want to be caught dead in. 


Honestly you don't believe there is evil in the world.  I really feel sorry for you for that, because one day you will most likely be a victim and then you will be very confused....


That's *innocent* until proven guilty...sm
I don't know which way it will go, but when you tell the truth your story never changes - his did over and over and over.
Yes, this is an innocent child. What if it ISN'T true?
What does this do to that 16-year-old? What about that?
I too am for defending innocent animals
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. ALL animals should be treated in a humane fashion.

I am offended that people will defend wildlife and endangered species but they think nothing of eating meat and animals that have been treated cruelly.

How can you say it's cruel to hunt animals, but you don't think it's cruel how chickens, cattle, pigs and other animals are treated before you (no, not you personally because I don't know if your a vegetarian) but people who are not vegetarians will think nothing and don't care how the animals they are eating are being treated.
what about those folks we swept up who are entirely innocent?
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Many of them are innocent and should be sent home to their families.
You should be more frightened of the American prisoners than the alleged terrorists that we have illegally held in Gitmo and tortured with the permission of George W. Bush and his cronies.

I am guessing Fort Leavenworth was there before you took up residence. If you don't like living near a prison, you are free to move.
They're ALL innocent...ask 'em!
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WHAT is GOOD about that? Especially if the prisoner is innocent.
Even the guilty ones might just confess to ANYTHING, just to stop the torture that often goes so far as to cripple a human being for life.
I defend all innocent people....nm
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99% of the Abu Ghraib detainees were innocent....sm
and were tortured!

UPDATE yourself!
Who put the libs on this board in charge of free speech?
Joe has the right of free speech too. He asked a simple question, which Obama freely answered outlining socialism 101, and what did Joe get for that? A background check! And you can hail free speech and be okay with that in the same breath? Your hypocrisy is showing...and showing...and showing.

And you keep trying, and unsucessfully, to deflect from the true point. Understandably, because your focus is the big "O", the truthgiver, the one who will save the world. LOL. Free speech indeed. You don't believe in free speech unless it benefits you and the big "O."

Nothing in my post said anything about free speech. It just tried (and in vain I understand)...to stay on point...Obama's ANSWER.
guess that's not as bad as 'VP is in charge of the Senate' ...Palin NM
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