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And it's doubtful you will get an apology or retraction from her. Can't admit

Posted By: they were wrong...nm on 2008-11-16
In Reply to: Linda C. - -- stop emailing me personally with posts...sm - ms




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I actually did admit a retraction above
too bad you think not agreeing with you equates to "screwing up"  -- Look above, other people feel the same way.  Sometimes it's hard to see the trees through the forest.
Retraction on the PO comment --
that pi$$ed off part was in reference to someone else's reply below, but I don't believe I twisted Obama's words.
still doubtful he will win a second term.

I'm the opposite....Extremely doubtful....
...Obama will win with Biden. Bayh would have been a better choice. Ah well.....


Umm. That is pretty doubtful since it takes about
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A gag order on the media? Doubtful.
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Very doubtful...Obama has had more pre-inaugural scandals occur...sm
around him than any other incoming president. His own fault, really. Poor judgment, lack of wisdom, lack of character, and not to mention lack of experience, for which all the above are evidenced by.

It's highly doubtful he'll last longer than one term. Even the media will get over their lovefest for him, once things really get going.
Don't owe anyone an apology

...BTW nobody has apologized for calling me a liar....not that I expected it....grow some skin.


No apology necessary...nm

Apology...sm
I wouldnt suggest anyone hold their breath waiting on any apology from Bush. Bush really does believe that it is *unacceptable to think* anything differently than what he is able to articulate.

He does not get it. It is because we do not want to be compared to islamofascist that we (dems and reps alike) *think* America should follow Geneva Conventions and not redefine them because it is only right. If we redefine, others will to. You can take that to the bank and cash it.

Will the terrorist follow the GC anyway - probably not - but we will be in a better position to deal with them if we have legally handled our POWs. I guess, it is *unacceptable to think* that Bush will get it.
I own you a apology for....

When I engage in political discussions, I try my best to keep things in the 3rd person as much as possible, especially since I try to promote mutual respect and tolerance.   I find that even in the most oppositional debates, it helps keeps things more civil.  I do not always succeed, and at times have been known to abadon that principal, especially when facing someone bent on personal attack or who is presenting ill-informed arguments.  I have followed some of your other posts and know that you certainly do not fit that category.  On close review, I notice I got a bit sloppy with the 3rd person thing.  I apologize if I came across as too presumptive, particularly since I cannot assume anything about your (or you family) in terms of being conservative or bigoted.


 


The 59 flea market is alive and well, although it is a bit of an anachronism by now.  Don’t know about the crime, except to say that there is usually a patrol car within sight cruising that vicinity on the weekends.  I used to go there all the time back in the day, but it is too hot and I am too old for that now.  That’s why I frequent those modern day flea markets along Harwin which can be found in air-conditioned buildings.


 


Bellaire was relatively middle class when we moved there.  It is its own city, so they have actually gone in the opposite direction and have gentrified the joint. over the last 10 years, give or take.  Unfortunately, our post-war bungalows are rapidly disappearing and those obnoxious, abrasive McMansions are popping up everywhere.  I suppose that’s progress to some, sad for me.  We moved there after my parents divorced from Highland Park in Dallas, which is an elite place to be sure.  The journey from “privileged” status to champion of the underdog makes for some interesting conversation…perhaps another day.


 


We are also bound to revisit the legal vs illegal immigration thing…it is not likely to go away anytime soon.  I am more intrigued by your issues post above and hope to respond to it in a day or so,    Dem turned independent, are you?  Even though I stay pretty much left of center, and have been more radicalized further in that direction after 8 years of Bush, I hear ya.  My issues with the party are not based so much on the candidate but rather lay with the party itself and the need to broaden our two-part system.  Whether or not I like Obama (and I do), I would still be voting along party lines in spite of that, because I see McCain as an instant replay in many respects, particularly where the war is concerned.  The "economy is not my strong suit" confession makes me rea nevous.  I do respect your decision to pull out, though. 


 


I listen to CNN and Fox, mostly with my teeth clenched.  I think Lou Dobbs' obsession with the immigration is a bit inflammatory and counterproductive (no suprise there) in terms of reaching a viable bipartisan consensus, but I will say this much for him.  For the most part, he presents himself in a respectable and respectful manner.  He raises some interesting points that have made me question some of my more radical views on other issues.  I do think he is the type of person that could engage and promote bipartisan cooperation, so in that respect, when I watch his show, my jaw is more relaxed!  Anyway, I think that a write-in vote is a great way to resolve any disenchantment you may have for the other 2 candidates. 


My apology then (nm)
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I owe an apology to no one...
and I am not the one obsessed with ice cream on this board. I prefer to keep my svelte figure rather than pigging out on ice cream and becoming rotund.
An apology for what?
The UN didn't do anything - or did I miss something?
Where did you go? No apology for Democrat?

You're as likely to get an apology from Ann (sm)

as we're likely to get an apology from PK and the other trolls.  Let it go.  The thread has been hijacked, so we'll slip away and let them have their temper tantrums.  When they find out no one is listening they'll crawl back under their bridge and/or troll their other haunts.  The other solution is that is adults here could just ignore them and continue on with our conversation.  It's your call 


Apology accepted
Thank you.
Apology accepted S/M

One great thing about this country is our freedom of speech.  A good thing for me too as in another country I might be beheaded or something as I'm pretty outspoken about things I believe in strongly.  Also, anyone has the right to agree or disagree with either of us and that is partly what makes this country great, I think.


I would love to hear of your life's journey.  I came from near poverty....my dad was a farmer, both parents uneducated....their goal was to make a better life for their children through education.  I made it all the way to upper middle class which is good enough for me.  I traveled many a rocky road though during my life.


I used to love going to the 59 flea market but like you, I now prefer my comfort over flea marketing outdoors.  One thing I can say is since I left Houston in 1990, it sure has changed.  My husband, a Chicago native, and I were visiting the kids once and we were going to drive back to my daughter's house in Tomball to spend the night from my son's house in Magnolia.  Well, not being so familiar with the Magnolia/Tomball area from living there....except for the famous chicken fried steak place in Tomball...forget the name right now, we missed a turn.  I'm about half night blind and after we drove around for quite awhile looking for something I recognized, finally saw the street sign for Gesner so I knew exactly where I was, right?  Wrong.  Didn't realize they'd opened up Gesner half way to Conroe. LOL  We finally got to my daughter's house after a couple of hours, she and my son were about to send out a search party.  We didn't have a cell then.


Have a good day and I do enjoy your posts.


Well, TT...please accept my apology...
I spoke out of turn. While I do have personal knowledge of Mexican immigrants who became citizens, I don't know anyone in the DAR personally. I should not have made that comment. Not like me, but as I stated, trotter pushes my buttons. At any rate...shame on me.

And as to being a daughter of the confedracy, I have no problems there either. I have a friend who is a descendant of Robert E. Lee. He was a fascinating man. His decision to secede took a horrible toll on him. He wanted to preserve the Union as much as Lincoln did. Both great men with great vision.

So, TT, accept my apology for the "tea" comment. Fell prey to stereotypical comment, was wrong of me to do. I would love to learn more about the DAR, so I am going to practice what I preach, and start reading.

You go girl! :)
Okay...apology inside.

Sorry for involving everyone in what turned into a personal confrontation.  In stepping back as some of you have suggested, I examined my feelings and I do feel badly.  I took it too personally and I should not have, though when someone says "you this" and "you that" it is hard not to take it personally.  It is hard not to take it personally when someone calls you a bigot, ignorant...and many other not-so-nice names.  I got my back up...but that is a human reaction in my opinion.  I jus should have shut it down sooner, I agree.


In GW's defense, I think she is very frustrated with the immigration situation because of incidents close to her, understandable, and I became the personification of all she hates about Republicans, conservatives etc., in effect, the object of venting.  Again, I should not have taken it so personally and tried to understand more where that hatred was coming from.


So, I apologize to GW, I apologize to all of you, that I let it get out of hand.  Hard as it may be for some of you to believe, I am not a confrontational person.  Every one of us, at some point, gets all we can stand and feel like we have to stand up.  I just should not have kept it going so long.  We were beating a dead horse and we should have stopped...both of us.


So...sorry, GW.  I know we do not agree on many things and never will.  However, I am as responsible as you for it going on for so long.  And for that I apologize, to you and to others on the board.


And I appreciate the wise moderator who just let it play out.    Cooling myself off.  :)


Apology accepted s/m
Now I really gotta git over yonder and git a haircut before I have to start payin' dog tax on my shaggy head!
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.

I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.

It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.

I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.

It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
N. Korea wants an apology from the U.N.

He's threatening nuclear missles now if he doesn't get the apology


Instead of all the governments playing patty cake with these radical leaders, we should just take them out once and for all.


While O is trying to reduce our defense abilities, these leaders are building up theirs. When is the world (including our country) going to realize you can't deal with leaders like this in a rational manner? "Speak softly but carry a big stick" is the motto we should be following.


 


There was an apology request.

The Security Council must apologize for infringing on the North's sovereignty and "withdraw all its unreasonable and discriminative resolutions and decisions" against the North, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.


Otherwise, the regime "will be compelled to take additional self-defensive measures," including "nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles," the ministry said.


Stardust - still waiting for your apology.
It's been close to a day. After my challenge to you I waited a few hours and nothing. You couldn't find one of my posts where you acused me of racist comments. I knew you wouldn't find one because it's not in my nature and I'm sure by now you know I am a black woman. So after a few hours I re-posted and within the half hour you came back and said see, there your comment about Michelle Obama.

My answer to you was that you accused me before I made that comment. Besides there was nothing racist about the comment I made about Michelle Obama and the way you stereotype how you think us black folk should talk and therefore assumed I was white.

So you know you were wrong yet no apology. That just goes to show me you are a racist yourself. I have no more time for this.
apology accepted, deeni,
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Accept my sincerest apology for s/m
""lumping"" you in.  I totally agree with you about both sides being guilty of the outrageous spending.  The pork has always been there -- this is a very old concept.  I infuriates me to hear the conservatives putting all the blame on the other side, when this has always been a nonpartisan issue.  I just think it is ridiculous to jump to conclusions before anything is given a reasonable amount of time to see if it works or not and, I, for one, am willing to be a little more patient before I start going off the deep end.
My objection to Obama's apology
I see him only heaping scorn on this country and blaming former administration (really only the last one)  for ''arrogance'' for bad behavior,  for a mess he complains he is now stuck cleaning up, etc.  Everything happened pre-Obama.  Everything is now perfect under his regime.  ''I apologize for those dopes.  It won't happen again because I am here to save the day.''   Yuck! 
Truly caring about your country needs no apology....
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So you didn't let her apology stop you from attacking her.

I know it's hard for you, but try to pay attention.  Sheesh!


It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM












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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to:
They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby



Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.


President Bush owes me no apology.
He has my profound gratitude for keeping us safe since 9/11.  Nuff said.
Olbermann: "You owe this country an apology." sm
Another great special comment from Keith Olbermann. 
You will wait a long time for an apology for me. sm

In fact, I DEMAND an apology for falsely accusing any of us, after the moderator already told you, that we did not contact her.  An article about Presidente Bush being clinically insane would definitely appear to violate the rules of the board, as posted REPEATEDLY.  How dare you, sir!  To quote your hero, Olberman.


A mere acceptance of my apology would have sufficed.
In the south, it would have been the honorable thing to do.
Ummm...guess you didn't see the apology below....
I had not read through all the threads yet. You took exception to McCain but it looks like you and I have a bit of a hair trigger ourselves....eh?

I am not hung up on Sarah Palin. I do like her. I think she is the most genuine of the 4. I think that is the way she talks in her everyday life, and doesn't bother to window dress and act like something she isn't. And how she expresses herself has nothing to do with intelligence or the lack thereof.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it (there is a folksy one for ya...lol).

This is my favorite, I use it all the time, and I could apply it to the big O's explanation of his association with Ayers:

Barack, sweetie, that dog don't hunt. lol.


The Post (sort of) issued an apology.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sharpton_Post_editor_insulting_public_with_0219.html


Ironically (LOL), when I read some posts on this board denying this is blatant racism by the Post, the mental image I get is this (hoping it prints):


Hear


My apology,..didn't realize you lived in Sweden...nm
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You can't admit the war was

I am not sure I would admit that if I were you. nm.
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I believe one has to admit..
to his wrongdoing (we know how hard that is for W ) first and then repent. I do not see W doing either of those things. The only thing he can pull out of his hat to say he would do differently is use different language, like bring 'em on, dead or alive. That's it !!!!! Until he recognizes, owns up to and asks for forgiveness I don't think he'll get it. You do have to go and sin no more.
They will not admit anything except
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!
BUT, they will NEVER admit that but will just
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yes and I bet if they would admit it, sm
many of those who voted for him would like to see him out of the White House now!
You have to admit...
that even if you don't like what they're saying, they are making people think about what the government is doing these days. I wish Beck had been around when Bush was in office - maybe some of the anger against congress would have shown up a little sooner.
You have to admit...
that even if you don't like what they're saying, they are making people think about what the government is doing these days. I wish Beck had been around when Bush was in office - maybe some of the anger against congress would have shown up a little sooner.
I will admit that there are
so-called Christians who use their religion to try and control the lives of others while they do as they please.  These people definitely give others a bad name.  However, don't group all of us into that.  There are truly some wonderful Christians who do walk the walk and talk the talk.  So please be respectful.  You don't like to be stereotyped anymore than we do.
I will admit that there are some
nuts as evident by the man who shot Tiller.....but not anti-abortion people are nuts.  Excuse us for caring about the life of a child that could survive outside of the womb but isn't given the chance.  Once again, you liberals are more concerned about the treatment of terrorists than the innocent lives of babies and yet you have the balls to say we are nuts.  Give me a break.
At least have the cajones to admit when you do something.
You posted the article above as a racial post and you shot the finger.  We all know it.  Someone might think you are lying.
at least you admit it was dirt

....and you obviously are not able to follow simple rules of courtesy and good manners in addition to the rules of this board.  It seems your need to deride, disdain, mock and make fun of the liberal posters on a liberal board is something that you cannot control.  You might wish to ponder at some point why you feel the compelling need for cruelty.  It does not win us over, but rather is a very poor advertisement for your far right-wing beliefs.


As far as who I am, I am the same as every other poster - anonymous with a made-up moniker.  It is NOT a good idea to post our real names on a public forum and I would advise you or anyone else against it, unless you have an extremely common name. 


I am intolerant. I admit it.
I am intolerant of a great many things. I am most intolerant of lip service. My intolerance comes from living a life of seeing human life belittled, stepped on, and twisted by those who feel superior to others and that behavior being justified because of their beliefs, and most horrendously, in the name of their god. Yes, I do call myself a pagan now. God and I parted ways a long time ago.

I apologize to you. It seems that you have chosen a noble cause. I, however, cannot fathom how or why one can have so much compassion for one piece of humanity or human life and not another. If the children in your eyes need help the most, then how can you possibly justify the war in Iraq, or any war for that matter, is purposeful when they are dying by the thousands? Or worse, maimed for life. I do not see much balance in that.

I am going to chalk it up to perhaps that is the nature of conservatism. Or perhaps it is a lack of empahthy?

Spin the words all you want. Your posts may be written to illustrate a point of view, but with a great deal of superciliousness. I am not the only one with this belief. Others have tried to point it out as well. Perhaps they're just better at it than I am.

I call things the way I perceive them, and I don't sugar coat it and I won't apologize for it. But for the sake of propriety, I shall resist the temptation.