The Post (sort of) issued an apology.
Posted By: Marmann on 2009-02-20
In Reply to: Did you notice....(sm) - Just the big bad
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Sharpton_Post_editor_insulting_public_with_0219.html
Ironically (LOL), when I read some posts on this board denying this is blatant racism by the Post, the mental image I get is this (hoping it prints):
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I'm just sort of in shock. I'm not even going to post a link. nm
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This sort of thing is not subject to Presidential trickery of that sort. nm
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Subpoena was issued. Meanwhile....
The Senate tries to give Bush more power to wiretap. The bill was written by none other than Arlen the magic bullet Specter.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_Specter_0829.html
If a gag order were issued............ sm
it would likely have originated with the military intelligence office. Maybe Gibbs ordered it, who knows? LOL The point is there is more that goes on in the media and the military than meets the eye. We are only priviledged to know what they want us to know.
a spokesman for M/P issued the last paragraph so not sure how reliable
that would be. Odd how they added it at the end but did not say if it was a fact. It was supposed to be an investigative article. There is no way of knowing if that is fact, it is only what the McCain people say is true.
Cannot trust anyone it seems.
there's no media coverage because they issued a gag order -
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sort of
If an abortion is survived and the child "takes breath," then yes, I believe G-d has given a soul to that child.
As for Obama's vote in that matter, there is a lot more too it than you are posting. I have researched the bill, the votes, etc. I certainly don't believe he was condoning murder with this bill.
I sort of agree with you, but I think.....sm
that we won't necessarily be a third-world country, but rather a non-existant country. He is always talking so much the Europeans and how we should be so much more like them, and like you said, it seems he wants to be the president of the UN... I wouldn't doubt his trip over there had something to do with putting the wheels in motion for the US to join the European Union. JMHO of course.
I don't disagree with a lot of what he says as far as helping others, etc., but I can't afford to pay more taxes! We are in that middle ground where we're not poor enough to pay no taxes or get any of the freebies, yet make just enough to pay so many taxes we can't afford to do anything other than pay our bills with what's left.
I'd love to help the homeless, the infirm, the disabled, but I simply can't afford to do much more than volunteer a little time now and then and put a few coins in a fundraising can, but if Mr. Obama gets his way, I'll have to take away from mine to give to them anyway.
I'm so sick and tired of seeing friends and acquaintances who have little or no job, get food stamps and free babysitters for ''respite'' time for themselves, get free medical and dental care and TAKE HUGE VACATIONS that I could scream!! I work full time plus and my husband is self-employed working 24/7 too and we can't afford to take a vacation. We can't afford to get sick or need medication. I need new glasses badly right now, but I simply can't afford it. There are people in our area who are on all the programs and go and get into fights in bars and get their glasses broken and go to the eye doctor the next day and just get new ones. I just don't think it's fair.
But I also think that that is the plan... get us all to start believing that our lives will be easier if we let the government take care of us (and it would be!), but once we're all on the dole, watch out... because then that's when the free things will stop and you'll be sorry.
I'm not saying I favor one candidate over an other right now, I'm still waiting for the debates. I'm not anxious to hear what they can ''do for me'' but rather what they are going to do to help me help myself. I've run out of ways to make my money go any further. We don't live fancy, never have. We don't go out but maybe once or twice a year to dinner, never to a movie or club. Our home is old and plain and almost paid for and we have no other debt. We have worked very hard over the last 28 years to get to where we are today and I feel like the rug is being pulled out from under us. I just want to vote for whoever is not going to take away what I have worked so hard for.
my point exactly - well sort of
Why HC & JM dropped it? - I have no idea. We do know that BO and HC had private meetings, so who knows what went on there. I'm sure she was told to drop it (by the people funding BO) and offered a high ranking position, but we will never really know. JM - probably dropped it because if he pushed it they would have found that he too was not of legal standing to run for the position. But he was so weak and in no way had any of the funding that BO did and therefore was totally destroyed by BO. The party should have been smarter and picked somebody better, but then again GW's presidency (even though decisions are controlled by congress and the COB and the President is only a talking head) was such a failure I don't think any decent republican even had a chance at winning.
The media dropped it plain and simple. The MM is an organized propaganda tool. (Do you wonder why they don't report on 80% of the top stories going on). Maybe once or twice over the holiday weekend did they report on the situation in India. Even then it was given only a few moments. Then they had to go back to reporting about the Hollywood crowd and prisons in America, etc. Also, this is a very hot topic, and people who have been trying to get to the bottom of the issue have been met with death threats and have had to change their name. One guy even found a dead rabbit hanging on his porch and his auto destroyed with a warning to stop his investigation. Therefore, with all the violent tempers, this is one story no media is going to touch. That's why we have to hear (read) about it on the internet.
As for people posting articles. As with any of these sites here if people think an article is worthwhile to post they should be able to post. If it's just someone ranting on an on and giving nonsense opinions that's one thing, but these articles are written by journalist, lawyers, and people who have been following issues closely. When people post articles about food shortages, or Canada going crazy in their elections, or mad cow disease or any of other numerous articles not related to BO, they are never met with the same response of "your article is not credible". It is only when an article is posted of what's happening with Barky that people will say its not credible and then cite a pro-Obama site.
Posting an article we want to has nothing to do with proving we are MTs or not being allowed to post to this forum. It is an article we find of interest. If some don't like it, then read it and as they say "move on", but to come back and say that the articles are not credible sources but theirs are, well that's were it just gets too silly.
This is the sort of person
who should be put in front of "our boys" should there ever be an attach on our soil!
Right. It's sort of hidden, but we will ALL
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Why, to facilitate and sort of
ORGANIZE the whole volunteer process, you know? I'm sure there'll be lots of green stuff to learn, like how to rat out your dumb, stubborn parents for using the wrong kind of light bulbs. How to spot non-organic produce. We'll love it. It'll be great. You'll see! Soon we'll wonder how we ever got along without it.
And in the words of Ronald Reagan (yeah, another dead guy...everybody get over it, OK?) 'A government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever know on this earth.'
Wow...that is sort of confusing.
I guess if I were gay and had a partner, I'd just swap rings on my own and throw a party. The love two people have between each other means more than a legal piece of paper, IMO. I wouldn't travel to another state to get married just to go back home and it not mean anything legally. As often as people get divorced, you gotta wonder if straight people really get marriage.
A poll of a sort........... sm
What, in your opinion, originally defined right behavior from wrong behavior?
This not only applies to the discussion below but also any wrong behavior such as stealing, murder, rape, or any one of the other blights on the face of mankind. Please explain your answer citing whatever source of information supports your argument.
So you have to be some sort of HUMANITARIAN to be nominated.
That explains Bush's exclusion on that list. How embarrassed and ashamed should America be to see the leader of another, presumably poorer country try to provide humanitarian aid to Americans because our own president believes humanitarian aid begins with oil companies and ends with those intent on eliminating American freedom?
I wonder if he views our president as an oppressor and if he plans to invade and occupy our country to save us from Bush and to spread his superior form of government to the United States.
Sorry. I was just being silly. No credible leader in the world would ever do anything like THAT.....WOULD HE????
Sort of like Confederacy currency?
The economic summit was held behind closed doors. The politicians on both sides are probably gleefully aware that the American people are so busy blaming Democrats/Republicans they can't take time to see what is really going on. BOTH parties are to blame. I expect Bush made a deal behind closed doors and he'll pass it off to Obama who will continue. My opinion is we are no longer a free nation, we just haven't been informed of the new rules yet. He who has the gold rules and the foreign nations certainly have the gold. I don't personally expect Obama to make any great change, I just hope he will change some things that he can which might actually benefit the middle class but I honestly doubt it. WE, the "sheeple" have let this great country get in this condition and WE are going to have to fix it...if it isn't too late. I expect our forefathers are turning in their graves because of how we've squandered the freedom they fought and died to give us.
I take back what I said sort of - see message
I keep reading more and more websites that say the Wetland project in SF IS in the bill. I've been trying to find a link that will give word for word what is in the stimulus plan but I can't find anything. Since you said it's not in the plan can you give me a link that shows what exactly is in the plan?
your reply is sort of cute....nm
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This was meant to be a sort of black humor!! nm
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I guess I would say more center because I have sort of walked (sm)
the line between democrat and republican all along, so that would be more along with my thinking. I guess as far as what I would want to lose to get more to the center, I would have to say that I would want partial-birth or late term abortions to be illegal unless it was a threat to the mother's life. I would want unwanted babies who are born alive to have human rights to receive appropriate medical care. The other issue I have with O is his associations, but of course that has nothing to do with whether he is farther right or left, so I guess abortion is my only right/left issue.
They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.
...just round-file it.
Sounds like a fine man voting his conscience, sort of like
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Don't owe anyone an apology
...BTW nobody has apologized for calling me a liar....not that I expected it....grow some skin.
No apology necessary...nm
Apology...sm
I wouldnt suggest anyone hold their breath waiting on any apology from Bush. Bush really does believe that it is *unacceptable to think* anything differently than what he is able to articulate.
He does not get it. It is because we do not want to be compared to islamofascist that we (dems and reps alike) *think* America should follow Geneva Conventions and not redefine them because it is only right. If we redefine, others will to. You can take that to the bank and cash it.
Will the terrorist follow the GC anyway - probably not - but we will be in a better position to deal with them if we have legally handled our POWs. I guess, it is *unacceptable to think* that Bush will get it.
I own you a apology for....
When I engage in political discussions, I try my best to keep things in the 3rd person as much as possible, especially since I try to promote mutual respect and tolerance. I find that even in the most oppositional debates, it helps keeps things more civil. I do not always succeed, and at times have been known to abadon that principal, especially when facing someone bent on personal attack or who is presenting ill-informed arguments. I have followed some of your other posts and know that you certainly do not fit that category. On close review, I notice I got a bit sloppy with the 3rd person thing. I apologize if I came across as too presumptive, particularly since I cannot assume anything about your (or you family) in terms of being conservative or bigoted.
The 59 flea market is alive and well, although it is a bit of an anachronism by now. Don’t know about the crime, except to say that there is usually a patrol car within sight cruising that vicinity on the weekends. I used to go there all the time back in the day, but it is too hot and I am too old for that now. That’s why I frequent those modern day flea markets along Harwin which can be found in air-conditioned buildings.
Bellaire was relatively middle class when we moved there. It is its own city, so they have actually gone in the opposite direction and have gentrified the joint. over the last 10 years, give or take. Unfortunately, our post-war bungalows are rapidly disappearing and those obnoxious, abrasive McMansions are popping up everywhere. I suppose that’s progress to some, sad for me. We moved there after my parents divorced from Highland Park in Dallas, which is an elite place to be sure. The journey from “privileged” status to champion of the underdog makes for some interesting conversation…perhaps another day.
We are also bound to revisit the legal vs illegal immigration thing…it is not likely to go away anytime soon. I am more intrigued by your issues post above and hope to respond to it in a day or so, Dem turned independent, are you? Even though I stay pretty much left of center, and have been more radicalized further in that direction after 8 years of Bush, I hear ya. My issues with the party are not based so much on the candidate but rather lay with the party itself and the need to broaden our two-part system. Whether or not I like Obama (and I do), I would still be voting along party lines in spite of that, because I see McCain as an instant replay in many respects, particularly where the war is concerned. The "economy is not my strong suit" confession makes me rea nevous. I do respect your decision to pull out, though.
I listen to CNN and Fox, mostly with my teeth clenched. I think Lou Dobbs' obsession with the immigration is a bit inflammatory and counterproductive (no suprise there) in terms of reaching a viable bipartisan consensus, but I will say this much for him. For the most part, he presents himself in a respectable and respectful manner. He raises some interesting points that have made me question some of my more radical views on other issues. I do think he is the type of person that could engage and promote bipartisan cooperation, so in that respect, when I watch his show, my jaw is more relaxed! Anyway, I think that a write-in vote is a great way to resolve any disenchantment you may have for the other 2 candidates.
My apology then (nm)
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I owe an apology to no one...
and I am not the one obsessed with ice cream on this board. I prefer to keep my svelte figure rather than pigging out on ice cream and becoming rotund.
An apology for what?
The UN didn't do anything - or did I miss something?
Where did you go? No apology for Democrat?
You're as likely to get an apology from Ann (sm)
as we're likely to get an apology from PK and the other trolls. Let it go. The thread has been hijacked, so we'll slip away and let them have their temper tantrums. When they find out no one is listening they'll crawl back under their bridge and/or troll their other haunts. The other solution is that is adults here could just ignore them and continue on with our conversation. It's your call 
Apology accepted
Thank you.
Apology accepted S/M
One great thing about this country is our freedom of speech. A good thing for me too as in another country I might be beheaded or something as I'm pretty outspoken about things I believe in strongly. Also, anyone has the right to agree or disagree with either of us and that is partly what makes this country great, I think.
I would love to hear of your life's journey. I came from near poverty....my dad was a farmer, both parents uneducated....their goal was to make a better life for their children through education. I made it all the way to upper middle class which is good enough for me. I traveled many a rocky road though during my life.
I used to love going to the 59 flea market but like you, I now prefer my comfort over flea marketing outdoors. One thing I can say is since I left Houston in 1990, it sure has changed. My husband, a Chicago native, and I were visiting the kids once and we were going to drive back to my daughter's house in Tomball to spend the night from my son's house in Magnolia. Well, not being so familiar with the Magnolia/Tomball area from living there....except for the famous chicken fried steak place in Tomball...forget the name right now, we missed a turn. I'm about half night blind and after we drove around for quite awhile looking for something I recognized, finally saw the street sign for Gesner so I knew exactly where I was, right? Wrong. Didn't realize they'd opened up Gesner half way to Conroe. LOL We finally got to my daughter's house after a couple of hours, she and my son were about to send out a search party. We didn't have a cell then.
Have a good day and I do enjoy your posts.
Well, TT...please accept my apology...
I spoke out of turn. While I do have personal knowledge of Mexican immigrants who became citizens, I don't know anyone in the DAR personally. I should not have made that comment. Not like me, but as I stated, trotter pushes my buttons. At any rate...shame on me.
And as to being a daughter of the confedracy, I have no problems there either. I have a friend who is a descendant of Robert E. Lee. He was a fascinating man. His decision to secede took a horrible toll on him. He wanted to preserve the Union as much as Lincoln did. Both great men with great vision.
So, TT, accept my apology for the "tea" comment. Fell prey to stereotypical comment, was wrong of me to do. I would love to learn more about the DAR, so I am going to practice what I preach, and start reading.
You go girl! :)
Okay...apology inside.
Sorry for involving everyone in what turned into a personal confrontation. In stepping back as some of you have suggested, I examined my feelings and I do feel badly. I took it too personally and I should not have, though when someone says "you this" and "you that" it is hard not to take it personally. It is hard not to take it personally when someone calls you a bigot, ignorant...and many other not-so-nice names. I got my back up...but that is a human reaction in my opinion. I jus should have shut it down sooner, I agree.
In GW's defense, I think she is very frustrated with the immigration situation because of incidents close to her, understandable, and I became the personification of all she hates about Republicans, conservatives etc., in effect, the object of venting. Again, I should not have taken it so personally and tried to understand more where that hatred was coming from.
So, I apologize to GW, I apologize to all of you, that I let it get out of hand. Hard as it may be for some of you to believe, I am not a confrontational person. Every one of us, at some point, gets all we can stand and feel like we have to stand up. I just should not have kept it going so long. We were beating a dead horse and we should have stopped...both of us.
So...sorry, GW. I know we do not agree on many things and never will. However, I am as responsible as you for it going on for so long. And for that I apologize, to you and to others on the board.
And I appreciate the wise moderator who just let it play out.  Cooling myself off. :)
Apology accepted s/m
Now I really gotta git over yonder and git a haircut before I have to start payin' dog tax on my shaggy head!
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.
I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.
It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
Apology accepted - thank you. (sm)
I agree with you about the pork - I know it's always been there, but that's not an excuse to keep it there, especially when most of it is just for trash that couldn't pass on its own merit if put up for a vote.
I try not to go off the deep end about what's going on, but I don't think being concerned at this point is unreasonable. My concern is where is all the money going to come from, even if the stimulus happens? This is the largest national debt we've ever run up and somewhere along the line, we're going to have to pay for it and our kids are going to have to pay for it. And even if all's going well and we all have jobs and our mortgages are no longer in crisis, it's still going to mean higher taxes somewhere (not just income - could be gas, produce, city taxes, state taxes, property taxes, etc.), and not just for the wealthy. It's gonna hit all of us and all of our children.
It is a nonpartisan issue and I can't stand to see this country divided by 'right' and 'left.' I think I can say with quite a bit of certainty that everyone on this board is a taxpayer (since we're all working) and we should be mad as he11 with BOTH sides for doing what they're doing. No one is in the right here, it's just all wrong and has been for a long time. I just wish something had happened about it years ago instead of letting it get this far.
N. Korea wants an apology from the U.N.
He's threatening nuclear missles now if he doesn't get the apology
Instead of all the governments playing patty cake with these radical leaders, we should just take them out once and for all.
While O is trying to reduce our defense abilities, these leaders are building up theirs. When is the world (including our country) going to realize you can't deal with leaders like this in a rational manner? "Speak softly but carry a big stick" is the motto we should be following.
There was an apology request.
The Security Council must apologize for infringing on the North's sovereignty and "withdraw all its unreasonable and discriminative resolutions and decisions" against the North, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.
Otherwise, the regime "will be compelled to take additional self-defensive measures," including "nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles," the ministry said.
Bush was sort of in national guard but never showed for the physical... that counts? Cheney was nev
duh?? ya'll?
Stardust - still waiting for your apology.
It's been close to a day. After my challenge to you I waited a few hours and nothing. You couldn't find one of my posts where you acused me of racist comments. I knew you wouldn't find one because it's not in my nature and I'm sure by now you know I am a black woman. So after a few hours I re-posted and within the half hour you came back and said see, there your comment about Michelle Obama.
My answer to you was that you accused me before I made that comment. Besides there was nothing racist about the comment I made about Michelle Obama and the way you stereotype how you think us black folk should talk and therefore assumed I was white.
So you know you were wrong yet no apology. That just goes to show me you are a racist yourself. I have no more time for this.
apology accepted, deeni,
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Accept my sincerest apology for s/m
""lumping"" you in. I totally agree with you about both sides being guilty of the outrageous spending. The pork has always been there -- this is a very old concept. I infuriates me to hear the conservatives putting all the blame on the other side, when this has always been a nonpartisan issue. I just think it is ridiculous to jump to conclusions before anything is given a reasonable amount of time to see if it works or not and, I, for one, am willing to be a little more patient before I start going off the deep end.
My objection to Obama's apology
I see him only heaping scorn on this country and blaming former administration (really only the last one) for ''arrogance'' for bad behavior, for a mess he complains he is now stuck cleaning up, etc. Everything happened pre-Obama. Everything is now perfect under his regime. ''I apologize for those dopes. It won't happen again because I am here to save the day.'' Yuck!
Truly caring about your country needs no apology....
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So you didn't let her apology stop you from attacking her.
I know it's hard for you, but try to pay attention. Sheesh! 
It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM
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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to: They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby
Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.
President Bush owes me no apology.
He has my profound gratitude for keeping us safe since 9/11. Nuff said.
Olbermann: "You owe this country an apology." sm
Another great special comment from Keith Olbermann.
You will wait a long time for an apology for me. sm
In fact, I DEMAND an apology for falsely accusing any of us, after the moderator already told you, that we did not contact her. An article about Presidente Bush being clinically insane would definitely appear to violate the rules of the board, as posted REPEATEDLY. How dare you, sir! To quote your hero, Olberman.
A mere acceptance of my apology would have sufficed.
In the south, it would have been the honorable thing to do.
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