Are you calling your fellow pubs ignorant?:
Posted By: sally on 2008-09-06
In Reply to: yeah, but some people are so ignorant, they will - believe her ridiculous posts, unfortunately.nm
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but calling someone plain ignorant is okay? whatever!
nm.
Calling all pubs.
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"war-happy-pubs"? You are ignorant!
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and calling someone ignorant and venous makes you a much better person??
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Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
Fellow Arkie
I know where that is! We used to shop in Fort Smith when I was little. From Mena, now south Arkansas. Your part of the country is beautiful. Where the Ouachitas meet the Ozarks! 
To my fellow Americans.....
we are all screwed. I don't think any one in government has a clue what is the right thing to do and the ones who do won't say anything as it might go against their party and who would want to do that. If one party has a good idea, the other party refuses to vote for it because it wasn't their party and let's face it.....neither party wants the other one to look good. Government is going to stick it to us again so we might as well be prepared and get the vaseline out for a little bit of lube.
Hello there fellow vegan
Okay, have to admit I'm not total vegan but am trying. I love beans too. We eats tons of black beans, garbanzo's, and some navy beans and lately been on a homemade split pea soup kick. I do love beans, less meat (we stick to mainly chicken and ham. Although I still won't eat a fava bean (mainly because they said it was like a lima bean and lima beans are repulsive to me).
Is that what they laughed about. I had forgotten.
So am trying here to be more vegan myself. There are certain veggies I just cannot get enough of (brussel sprouts for one).
If you have or know of any good recipes or websites of how to transition more veggie I'd love to hear from you. More than welcome to send me an email.
Thanks and let me know how you like the fava beans.
As I pointed out before...that fellow is not entirely honest either...
and Bush did not lie. While the bill does not explicitly state it will cover families to $83,000, it opens a loophole that will allow New York to again ask for the $82,600 raise and under the new bill would probably get it, because the stipulation preventing it was being removed. So basically what Bush said is true...he should have worded it differently.
Here are some things that were not brought forward that are also bad things about the bill:
Bush had good reason to veto SCHIP
By Grace-Marie Turner
Article Launched: 10/14/2007 01:33:38 AM PDT
Is President Bush a liar who hates children? That's what many of his critics now are asking in the opinion pages of major newspapers across the country. Why else, they say, would he refuse to sign a bill providing health insurance to poor kids?
Specifically, the president has vetoed a bill expanding the State Children's Health Insurance Program designed to provide health coverage to lower-income children. One nationally syndicated columnist went so far as to call Bush's rationale in vetoing the bill a "pack of flat-out lies."
This kind of rhetoric is wrong and misleads readers about the facts of this important issue.
There is no debate over whether to reauthorize the SCHIP program so it can continue to provide insurance to needy children. That's a given. The debate is about whether children in middle-income families should be added.
The president is absolutely right in insisting that SCHIP focus on its core mission of needy children. When SCHIP was created in 1997, the target population was children whose parents earned too much for them to qualify for Medicaid but not enough to afford private insurance. The president wants the program to focus on children whose families earn less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level. In today's dollars, that's $41,300 a year.
About two-thirds of the nation's uninsured children already are eligible for either Medicaid or SCHIP, but aren't enrolled. Raising the income threshold won't solve this core problem. Congress should require states to focus on the 689,000 children whom the Urban Institute says are uninsured and would be eligible for SCHIP if eligibility were limited to the $41,300 income level.
The other big problem is that, across the country, states are using SCHIP dollars to insure adults.
Fourteen states cover adults through SCHIP, and at least six of them are spending more of their SCHIP dollars on adults than on children. For example, 78 percent of SCHIP enrollees in Minnesota are adults, 79 percent in New Mexico, and 72 percent in Michigan.
With these statistics in mind, the Bush administration issued a ruling in August requiring states to demonstrate that they had enrolled 95 percent of eligible needy children before expanding the program.
Yet the bill that Congress passed, and which the president vetoed, nullifies that ruling and effectively refuses to agree that needy kids should get first preference. Instead, the congressional measure would give $60 billion to the states over five years to enroll millions more "children" - although many of them will, in fact, be adults. Others will be from higher-income families.
New York, for instance, could submit a plan that would add children in families earning up to $83,000 a year to SCHIP. New Jersey could continue to cover kids whose parents make up to $72,000. All the other states would be allowed to cover kids in families with incomes up to $61,000.
Most children in these higher income families are already covered by private insurance. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 77 percent of children in families earning more than twice the poverty line have private health insurance now.
No one doubts that SCHIP is a vitally important program for needy children, and that our nation needs to do a better job of helping working families afford health insurance. But giving the states incentives to add middle-income kids to their SCHIP rolls will prompt families to replace private insurance with taxpayer-provided coverage.
This is completely backward. The goal of SCHIP should be to provide private coverage to uninsured children. If Congress would send the president a bill that does that, he says he would sign it in a minute.
How I hate to disagree with my fellow....
But that is just nonsense. It would do nothing but create anarchy and keep the government so busy rotating presidents in and out of office, that absolutely nothing would get done. I will agree with you that the Bush presidency is one of the worst and that we will be seeing the ramifications of it in the many, many years to come and I am just hoping that he can keep things on an even keel until his term is over. But a no convidence vote? Never.
Not a fellow liberal, just a few things to say...
the National Right to Life Committee is not a religious organization. This from Wikipedia: The National Right to Life Committee is the largest right to life/pro-life organization in the United States with affiliates in all 50 states and over 3,000 local chapters nationwide. The group works through legislation and education to work against abortion, infanticide, euthanasia and assisted suicide. It was founded in Detroit in 1973 in response to the Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade which legalized the practice of abortion in all fifty states. It a non-sectarian, non-partisan group whose founding members included leaders in fields of science, religion, law, ethics and medicine. Its board consist of an elected representative from each of the 50 states and several at-large board members.
It might surprise you to know, there are Democrats, and there are liberals, who are not pro choice. There are Republicans who are pro choice. It is not a political issue. It is a deeply moral, deeply personal issue. In my case, it is tied to my belief in God (not my God, He is everyone's God). Perhaps not so in others. Those who do not have God in their lives, I do not expect them to understand where I am coming from, and I am not trying to force anything down anyone's throat. That is MY personal conviction. In others, perhaps it is tied to their own sense of morality and what to them is right and wrong. That is our right, just as your stand is yours.
I would counter what you say by saying how could you stand up with such strong conviction for the less fortunate, the sick, for all living things EXCEPT the unborn, the most innocent of all? And the helpless? Piglet...who in this world is MORE helpless, more utterly defenseless than an unborn child? Who?
If you have the benevolence to stand up for all the others you mention, why does that not extend to the unborn? Why are they excluded?
How is it different for a woman to deem an unborn child inconvenient and decide to kill it before it is born or partially born, and that is fine, yet let that child be born and she smother it the next day and you would be outraged, or at least I hope you would. How is that right in even a most twisted sense? The plain and simple fact is it is still a dead baby who was murdered. I realize that terms like "Murder" and "Chopped up like salad in a blender" are terms that make people uncomfortable. And well they should. Because that is the stark reality of abortion, choice or not.
In this day and time, in all but the most extreme circumstances (rape, incest, possible death of mother), there are ways to prevent an inconvenient pregnancy. If we stopped performing abortions except in those extreme cases, that would stop 90%, of not more, of all abortions.
REASONS FOR ABORTIONS: COMPILED ESTIMATES
rape 0.3 % (0.1-0.6 %)
incest 0.03 % (<0.1 %)
physical life of mother 0.2 % (0.1-0.3 %)
physical health of mother 1.0 % (0.1-3 %)
fetal health 0.5 % (0.1-1.0 %)
mental health of mother depends on definition
"personal choice"
--too young/immature/not ready for responsibility
--economic
--to avoid adjusting life
--mother single or in poor relationship
--enough children already 98% (78-99 %)
Not sure where you are going with the deciding how we die thing...unless you are talking about assisted suicide/euthanasia? That slippery slope may lead somewhere you don't want to go...when that decision is taken away from you and given to someone else, to whom you have become inconvenient and a bother and it would be in their best interest that you be dead. Think about that very carefully. And before you say "Oh that would never happen" I am sure that people who made the same comment about abortion never thought it would be legal or commonplace either. The Terri Schiavo case...I just think it would behoove anyone to think very carefully about that particular snowball and do they really want to start it down the hill.
Looking out for your fellow Americans, how noble sm
Did you figure out how to spell McCain yet?
Wouldn't you want your fellow supporters to think for
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LOL...Kind of like saying *my fellow prisoners*..
I read articles on this fellow......... sm
during the campaigns before the election. His predictions are not very promising and I believe we are in for a long, rocky ride. The government bailouts are just the beginning of government owning America, lock, stock and barrel.
I live in a rural, rather economically depressed area now and wonder how quickly my area will start seeing these changes. I wonder if it will be one of the first and hardest hit or if the more affluent areas of the country that enjoy a wider variety of jobs and better paying jobs will be more adversely affected first.
My 18-year-old son and I were discussing his future last night. Although he is a junior in high school, I told him that it is time that he started looking at the job markets in our area and deciding on a job that would pay well and would be in demand for a few years, at least. He won't be going to college, partly because of financial issues, but mainly because he is just not "college material" but I do want him to investigate trades-type schools and trades jobs in which he will be able to provide for himself as an adult in an economy where blue-collar workers struggle at best. 
Personally, I am not spending any more than is absolutely necessary to survive at this point. I guess I'm being "unAmerican" by not stimulating the economy, but right now I'm more concerned about what my future holds and whether I will be able to keep my home than whether I have a big-screen TV or an iphone. Times are indeed getting scary.
I am concerned for my fellow democrats on this post
Is there possibly anything else you can discuss or raise cane about other than Bush? To say that Bush started the fires in California is just beyond the scope of common sense.
I am not a Bush supporter, never was, never will be....however, not all the ills in the world or in our own country can be blamed on him alone.
I am most astounded by some of these postings, as they don't seem to make much sense and make you sound much less intelligent than I am sure you are.
Blame the people who elected him and blame Congress for not pursuing further investigation, but to keep rehashing it is blarney.
I think Palin IS a scare tactic. She & her fellow
believe in FREEDOM.
Freedom of Speech.
Freedom of/from Religion.
Freedom of Association.
Pursuit of Happiness.
Marching in lock-step with America's religious Nazis somehow just doesn't fit with what our forefathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.
You're really worried about your fellow citizens?
because if that were the case, you would be asking him why he continues to let illegals and overseas workers with visas into this country to take those very jobs they report are gone.
You don't know any of this is going on because you don't pay attention to anything unless Obama has said it. If he doesn't tell you illegals are taking these jobs, then you'll just pretend they are not. Sorry you don't feel illegals taking our jobs to the tune of 1.5 million right now isn't MORE important than spending more of your money.
Ever stop to think if they didn't have the jobs, Americans would?
Nope....she just stated she was here to post issues for her fellow liberals...
(or he, whichever the case may be), and I just mentioned I had not seen any issues posted. Are YOU the posting police?
And what facts to post....I hope you are really proud of your fellow posters...
right now.
ignorant self??
Believe me, honey, I am far from ignorant and Im just trying to educate those backward relic conservatives, trying to get them to live in the real world..Happy Days was fun to watch on TV but it is not reality..Now come on, put away your poodle skirt and move on..Democratic ideology is the future..
Ignorant? Not me.
I have done much research on stem cell research and I am definitely not ignorant. However, from what positions I see conservatives take over the past 5 years or so, seems it is pot calling the kettle black. Once again, a conservative just cannot debate an issue without name calling, too bad.
Ignorant? sm
There is nothing ignorant about deciding to take the candidates on face value or chosing to be positive and upbeat rather than hateful and divisive. What is ignorant is relying on these ill-informed, partisan, smutty, mud-slinging smears as the basis of chosing the leadership of our country. Anon is quite right. It boils down to satus quo versus change. Who are any of you to tell her any different? All you detractors and nay-sayers want to believe the very worst about your opposition candidates and their supporters and protest so much about how they cannot be trusted. The real dishonesty is found in these attack posts and are the least reliable of all.
Anon, you go girl! You deserve the peace that comes with being confident in your unwavering support. As for the rest of you Kamakazi posters, enjoy yourselves down there in your cesspools of hatred.
Ignorant? Really?
Who is this loser you are saying should shut up?
1. One of only 20 students in 1973 accepted into the freshman class at Julliard where he was one of 2 students (the other being Christopher Reeve) accepted into their advanced program of studies that same year.
2. Master of dialects and impersonation at Julliard.
3. Developed art of improvisation while starring on Mork and Mindy.
4. One-man-show stand-up comedian since 1978.
5. Comedy Central's #13 selection on top 100 stand-up comedians of all time.
6. Made 70 movies in the past 28 years, to include comedy, drama, animation and children's movies.
7. Received Academy Award nominations in 1988, 1989, 1991 and 2006.
8. Won the Oscar in 1998.
9. At age 32, kicked cocaine habit (25 years ago) after the death of his friend, John Belushi and the birth of his son.
10. Devotes a great deal of his time to raising money for charities through his and his wife's Windfall (philanthropic) Foundation, his favorite charity being Children's Promise.
11. Performed for USO for troops stationed in Iraq for 4 years.
12. Performed by personal invitation from Prince Charles at his 60th birthday celebration this year.
Seems like the only ignorance around here would be the kind that would express such ugly, ugly sentiments about such a brilliantly gifted talent as Robin Williams. Now THAT'S sad.
You are way ignorant.
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way ignorant
Ignorant of what? The truth?? go give yourself a hug, get a mug of hot cocoa and grab your blankey and go to.....sleep
Ignorant is
believing you can predict the future while turning a blind eye to the past. Thanks. I will be on my merry way. I am looking forward to a kinder, gentler America, despite your best efforts to shower me with all your gloom, doom, apocalypse and armageddon. Have fun in that deep dark hole you are hunkered down in.
Boy, That Was Ignorant of You
"Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking."
You obviously haven't got the first clue about Christianity.
There are just as many ignorant
far right people as there are far left people. It seems that both sides have people who can't help but say controversial things. As for Sotamayor herself.....she is the one who made the racial comment that she would make better decisions than a white man because of her experience and being a latina woman. I still say that if any white male had made any such racist comment, people, especially libs, would be calling for his head on a platter and he would not only lose his position but his career would be over. There is the big difference. It seems like minority groups are allowed to say racial things but the moment a white person does......all he!! breaks loose.
I personally feel that not only her comment was racist but for her to throw out those tests done by those firemen is both unfair and discrimination. Every single firefighter....no matter what race they were.....were given the same materials and the same amount of time to study. How can those tests be discriminatory towards minority groups? It isn't like all the white folk got the information a month ahead and minority folks got only 2 days. As far as I'm concerned, if minorities didn't score as high....they should have studied harder and they don't deserve a promotion. To study hard, score high on the test, and be denied a promotion merely because you aren't a minority.....how is that not racist and discrimination?
Your information is so ignorant.....
of the real truth that is kind of scares me. I am afraid that this is what the U.S. has become - a nation of ignorant lemmings who cannot read the information available and refuse to believe what has been documented over and over and over again....that we have been grievously misled by this administration. PLEASE educate yourself, study multiple world-wide news and information sources from various political genres and THEN draw your conclusions. And I can assure you, the conclusions may be painful and they will also be startlingly different from you currently hold to be true.
I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives. What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you. If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject. Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
You are beyond ignorant Libby
You are not one bit objective. You are consumed by hate. If you will look at the C-board you will see we are debating issues having to do with our president such as the Supreme Court Nominee and much to this board's generalization we've not all drank the Bush Kool-Aid. Calling us Bush groupies is grossly in error. You are sooo consumed with hate you would believe anyone but Bush....well, that tells us how far your hate has taken you.
You are an ignorant fool
They are asking for things like deodorant, foot powder, Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations, feminine items like tampons. Shampoo, conditioner, books, stationery to write home, Christmas cards, letters. They want letters. With every post you define YET AGAIN over and over how little you have a clue about our military and how little your regard for them. And you will never get any better. You will remain the pretenders of supporting the troops. As you have always been and you will always be. Shameless, shameful, tragic.
Ignorant post
Your ignorance is showing big time..I suggest to all of you who do not know how to debate, take a class at your local high school or college on debating..It is obvious most of the neocons, who for whatever reason I cant imagine frequent the liberal board, do not know how to debate intelligently, logically and fairly. When debating, you do not attack the opposite side personally, you attack the ideas put forth by the opposite side. Yet, reading over all the neocons posts on this board, all they do is attack the poster, not the ideas suggested and put forth..It gets ugly because they attack the poster, not the ideas, which makes me shake my head in wonder, as the neocons know nothing at all about the liberal poster, yet they assume greatly. Please, neocons, take a class on debating or probably you could even find out the correct way to debate by searching the internet..cause these personal attacks get tiring..so tiring..
I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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That is about the most ignorant thing
I have ever heard. If that is truly how you feel, you are voting blindly. This is why I fear this election. Ignorant people voting for someone they haven't even researched just because they want change. Well....sometimes change isn't for the better. Granted....things suck right now but the last thing we need is a change for the worse and I believe that is what Obama will bring. I don't like either candidate and am struggling with what to do, but I'm still researching and looking into things instead of voting blindly. I will probably vote for McCain because I feel he is the lesser of the two evils, but I am truly not happy with either candidate.
As for needing Dems in charge.....I know the current pres is republican but the dems have control of the congress. I haven't seen much good out of them either. I don't trust any politician because they are all out to line their pockets full of money while lying to the American people about the "changes" they will make in order to get elected in office and end up doing absolutely nothing they promised.
This post is entirely too ignorant
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You cannot possibly be that ignorant.....
Teenagers have been raising babies since the beginning of time. Only until the last few decades has it been scoffed at that a teenager should have a baby and NO, I don't encourage any young person to go that route before they finish school and hopefully go on to college or at least, find a spouse first and then have a child. In an ideal world, that is the route I would wish for them all.
But in Bristol's case, my point was, and you know it, that I doubt very seriously I will have to support her and her child. Do I want 12-even 17 year olds having babies? No, but I can GUARANTEE you because I see it in my community EVERYDAY, that if they are working to raise their own child and I mean truly out there WORKING and not sitting on their behinds letting me pay for their child, they more than likely will have learned a very valuable lesson in life about raising a child and will in all likelihood not be so fast to have another one.
But, when those teenagers who take no responsibility continue to have one child after another and they are ALL on the taxpayer's payroll, you better believe they have no business with a baby.
What business is it of yours if a teenager has a baby if you're not having to pay for it womb to whenever??
IGNORANT? I think this is over your head
Christianity is ONE faith. In the world, of course, there are many others besides Christians that believe in God. Are you following me?
Christians are not the center of the world, if that is what you are implying...
BUT, the founding fathers were Christian. That is all I am saying.
I feel sorry for the ignorant USA who is about
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stereotyping is ignorant
What an ignorant post
I got a news bulletin for ya, pal: The ONLY ones mooching off the the government are the ones raiding the TREASURY and while both parties have done it, the CURRENT crop of criminals hail from the GOP.
I don't believe Obama will deliver a fraction of what he promises, but MCBUSH promises more war, more enemies,more bloodshed, and more RAIDING OF THE TREASURY.
Spend a few seconds educating yourself, if you dare. I know its a LOT easier though, to just sit behind a keyboard in judgement of people YOU don't know and in whose shoes you certainly have never walked.
Not as ignorant as those who don't research
and search out the truth for themselves. Not as ignor@ant as all the people at my old church that will bark out nonsensical noises. Not as ignor@ant as the people who will not question anything no matter how wrong it is. Not as ignor@ant as my aunt who won't wear the color black because it's evil and the devil will posess her, and therefore she wears white to keep herself pure so that she will move right to the front of the line at the pearly gates because god will see how pure and clean she is not wearing those evil dark colors. Not as ignor@ant as the phony minister's wife who tried to convence the mindless souls that she actually witnessed a fight between god and satan for the soul of the electric guitar player in their "rock-and-roll band". Not as ignor@nt as the girls walking around in jean cutoffs and bikini tops saying how "kewl" it is to be able to dress like that to go to church. And especially and most important to me not as ignor@ant as the church members who changed bible versus to fit their way of life.
Are you really THAT ignorant? I'm sorry for you. Pathetic.
That is just plain prejudiced.
Now this is just plain ignorant
Of course we'll be taxed REGARDLESS of which figurehead gets put in office.
Get a clue though my friend, the REpublicans are NO friend to the average working JOE (plumber or otherwise). Do you for a New York second think the party who represents the RICH is really going to come to the aid of the middle and lower class? Give that a rest. Democrats are a hair better and that is NOTHING to brag about.
And while you 're at, how about documenting the bill in which you Obama voted to pass - so that we can read the details for ourselves. We can do our own research but if YOU are goign to make claims like this you at least have to tell us thebill in question, and WHERE you got your information.
My God. Most of America really IS ignorant
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not blind or ignorant
I was going to vote for O but found that I just cannot due to the abortion issue. Do I like McCain. NO. So I am stuck. But not everyone that doesnt vote for O is a racist or stupid or blind. Just an FYI
Not willingfully ignorant...........sm
maybe just read the post a little too quickly. :o)
What about the Iraqi babies who die when their Muslim parents set car bombs and cluster bombs designed to take out as many US soldiers as necessary? What about the suicide bombers who care not who they take out as long as then can take a few Americans with them?
You're very ignorant or you would know better
There isn't any hospital system getting rich on the back of Medicare patients (the elderly). They get a small reimbursement that private insurance owners pay a lot more for. No hospital system ever got prosperous off of Medicare and Medicaid.
I don't read Fox or the others you seem to know a lot about. This is from first hand knowledge. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If you're so worried about the prosperous hospital systems, get a brain and ask yourself if you would want those ER doors open if you or your loved ones needed an ER and then try to educate yourself on how those hospitals manage to stay open.
He is trying to reign in all healthcare under government control and has openly stated he would control drug usage by government stockpiling of drugs and letting the "government" figure out who needs the drugs more. You really want to go that way? Those determined "too" elderly will not receive certain drugs as determined by your socialist government.
You poor folks are so narrow-minded in your thinking, it never phases you that perhaps there are those who actually educate themselves and they are NOT republicans. Democrats are so stuck on republicans, they have no recourse when called out on the mat than to point fingers toward another party. What about those who aren't for either party and see what's happening. Obama has made it clear with his own two lips what he wants to do. It seems most of his continued supporters (and there are lots who have regretted voting for him)tend to immediately make slams and point fingers toward the past or ANY republican for that matter if they don't like what they see their own president doing now. It's a shame really.........
Not snooty..just ignorant
and prejudiced.
What an IGNORANT Post
I have seen some pretty ridiculous posts on here, but this one takes the cake.
I am a Democrat and am NONE of the things you seem to think we are.
My father was a veteran of every US war since WWII and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. He fought for YOUR rights and freedom. I don't recall any of you right wingers sitting holding my hand at nights while my father was serving in the jungles of Viet Nam. Most assuredly Do NOT assume that I am a fan of Jane Fonda!!
Do not assume you know anything about me. I know nothing about you except for your narrow-minded opinion expressed for all the world to see.
Thank you for illustrating how narrow minded and hypocritical some people truly are.
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