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but calling someone plain ignorant is okay? whatever!

Posted By: dnh on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Telling someone to "buzz off" - gourdpainter

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Now this is just plain ignorant
Of course we'll be taxed REGARDLESS of which figurehead gets put in office.

Get a clue though my friend, the REpublicans are NO friend to the average working JOE (plumber or otherwise). Do you for a New York second think the party who represents the RICH is really going to come to the aid of the middle and lower class? Give that a rest. Democrats are a hair better and that is NOTHING to brag about.

And while you 're at, how about documenting the bill in which you Obama voted to pass - so that we can read the details for ourselves. We can do our own research but if YOU are goign to make claims like this you at least have to tell us thebill in question, and WHERE you got your information.


Are you calling your fellow pubs ignorant?:
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and calling someone ignorant and venous makes you a much better person??
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Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
They can't, sam, or just plain don't want to. nm
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And you are just plain genious - right??? sm
Widge, I was as nonconfrontational as not to even post my opinion under your comment to heartsick, and I'm the dingbat just because you don't like my opinion. LOL. Go for something more original next time.

Seriously, you are not the only person I have heard say that, or else I would not have paid it much attention. That statement has become government policy, rhetoric, whatever you want to call it on Iraq, which would be agreeable if it were directed to our efforts against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The people who attacked us on 9-11 followed us into Iraq, not the other way around. You were there in the beginning so you know that is true.

The jury is still out on whether Iraq is a safer and better place as a result of the war, but I hope you are right.

It may come as a surprise to you, but I don't want us to up and leave the Iraqi people stranded either. We owe them more than that, even though we have given much already. I don't want two generations from now to be fighting a stagnant war in Iraq either. The other points you brought up are either debatable or agreed.


Sam, you are just plain wrong. That is just...sm
more republican propaganda.
There's plain ol' rich, and then there's
Like yer Wall Street execs, bank CEO's, etc. Even worse our this nation's spoiled, mollycoddled pro athletes.

Does any of their wealth trickle down to us? Nope. The more tax breaks and loopholes they get, the more we have to take up the slack and fill in the gaps.

If they can pay a football player $38 million to play a stupid game, then I think those of us who actually work for a living should at least get a few more cents per line.
Plain and simple............
If you're black or minority in this country, you can run your mouth all you want and make racial jokes and say nasty things and we are all supposed to look the other way but if you make a joke or say anything that is remotely considered racial (which is anything when speaking of someone black), then AL Sharpton and every other nutjob comes out of the wood work to run their huge mouths. No one is going to probably do anything about Letterman, because he is a loud mouth liberal piece of crap and Palin seems to be an obsession with him. Why doesn't he make nasty jokes about the Obama girls and see where that gets him. For that matter, why is everyone in such an uproar over the gorilla remark if blacks and liberal whites are allowed to get by with their nasty racial and biased remarks?

Always a double standard! They want their cake and eat it too!
LOL! Either desperate or just plain sloppy.

Are THEY just plain stupid or do they think WE are? 


I think a lot of the naysayers or just plain green...
She's got so much going for her, and you all are so jealous of her, that you just can't stop yourselves from been mean with green envy.

She's got it all.....she knew how to make it happen for herself, and just went and did it.

Not even can say that, now can they?
Not 'scared'. Just plain p!ssed-off, after
watching Dubya and his little friends do more harm to this country and its citizens in 8 years than it will be able to recover from in 20.


And you're just plain rude to her again and again...sm
Didn't the moderator tell you guys to stop it, for like, the umpteenth time this past week?

Leave sam alone, geez.
Gist = Just plain racist.
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This is just plain silly. You are wrong. nm
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Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...
We do have free speech but it is wrong to make things up about people. Didn't your mom teach you that? The stuff about Palin and Bush are facts. What you put about Obama being compared to Hitler is trouble making slander and liable and hateful. I won't even respond to you anymore on this board because it gives attention to a person who doesn't deserve it. All I can say is OBAMA WON AND THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM SO TOUGH NOOGIES.
You're being just plain ridiculous.
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Say what you like, this country is plain giddy
and I am right along with others in Obama being sworn in tomorrow. Even other countries are anticipating the new person being there. Bush has been a disaster for dealing with other nations and I personally am so happy and yes, giddy, that Obama already has such a high rating and as being seen by people who they now feel can perhaps get this country back in shape. People who are still fighting amongst themselves really need to stop and take heed. He is here, the majority are very happy and bashing him is doing no good. I am taking off tomorrow and seeing my new President sworn in!
This is just plain crap - see message
Anytime anyone says anything that doesn't elate the messiah you scream racism.

Statement - "I don't like his policies". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "The people he picked for his cabinet are not qualified" - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "He lied to us in his campaign. Offered us hope but there is no hope." - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "We're tired of him spending money that hasn't even been printed yet". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "It's about time we have someone of a different race in the WH". Your reply - "Right on. I agree with you."

This racist bull is getting old and so untrue, but whenever you can't argue with something you scream racism. GET OVER IT! We have. Enough with this "racism" thing. If you can't bring a conversation then just don't say anything, but please spare me with the racism crap.
Dem, you're just a plain dingbat. What I meant and what

you should have been able to process is that I would rather war not occur on US soil.  Saddam brutally murdered mass numbers of people. I believe he had WMD, but it doesn't matter what I think or what other people think because the proof that he did have WMD was clear with the murder of all those people.  Take a look at some of the few survivors and see that scars that remain.  Oh, and let's not forget about one of his favorite pasttimes, beheading. That sick SOB had connections in several countries and was a serious threat to every single country on the planet.  A person has to be absolutely stupid to think that all going to Iraq was and is about is oil. The people of Iraq are liberated, they're free, they're voting, all things they never dreamed of having under Saddam's rule.  Are there still problems with insurgants? Absolutely. Change doesn't happen overnight, it takes time and that's why our men and women are still there.  Their job isn't done.  If you ask service people what they think, they'll tell you the same thing.  My cousin, by marriage, is a major in the Army, been in the service for 18 years, and knows that it's not time for President Bush to pull the troops out yet.  So, now that I've posted my 2 cents, I'm going to add that I'm not Republican, I'm not Democrat, I don't vote by party, I vote by who I think will get the job done. I mentioned that because I don't want readers thinking that I MUST be a Republican just because of what I posted. 


just plain rude - keep 'em coming
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Obama is just trouble....plain and simple.

There are so many things that I don't agree with him on.  You can't raise taxes for small businesses in this time of crisis.  You can't have all of these government assisted programs and only tax the rich because that won't be enough to cover all the expenses.  He will have to tax us all including the middle  class which he professes to want to help even though "spreading the wealth" will keep us down in the middle class because we won't be able to afford to make it into the upper tax bracket.  Basically his plans are aimed to help the lowlife scum who don't want to work.  As for his healthcare......like Oldtimer said below.....you can't make insurance companies pay for pre-existing conditions like that.  If no one wants to pay for health insurance until they have a major illness.....these insurance companies are supposed to pay for a pre-existing condition when this person is just now paying insurance premiums.  The insurance companies won't have any money to pay out if that is how it will work because no one will want to pay for insurance until something major happens.  It just won't work that way because it can't.


Obama is a socialists through and through.  I'm tired of the media and his supporters ignoring his associations.  I'm tired of people throwing up the race card.  It is just absolutely ridiculous.  Just because I'm a white woman not voting for Obama....that doesn't make me racist.  Yet you never hear about the people voting for Obama just because he is black.....is that not also racist? 


This whole election is just screwed up.  I hope to God that this next debate has something in it worth watching and I hope McCain tears Obama a new butthole! 


Being called gay is an insult, plain and simple.
It's even used in popular slang as an insult, i.e. 'that's gay'. They are NOT accepted in mainstream society or they wouldn't have to be making such a stink right now trying to become accepted. It is deviant behavior, and deviant behavior should not be legal. Whatever you do behind your own closed doors is your business, but that's where it should stay.
Nancy Pelosi is just plain disgusting. How did she
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The essence of their outrage is hijacked by just plain hatred.
hatred of Bush, anything to do with Bush. The mere mention of his name causes the bile to rise and the red mist to engulf them.  They hate, hate, hate.  They blame, blame, blame. It's what they do.  There is no having conversations with them.  They don't see reason. They don't see fairness.  They see nothing but hate.
That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Well, I gotta tell ya - nothing is more creepy to me than Ann Coulter - now that's plain SCARY!

It was a witch hunt plain and simple. But the bad thing about it???
He just commuted their sentences. They will not get their jobs back again because they were not pardoned. I did not know there was a difference, but evidentally there is. So....they might be walking free, but who's going to pay all the bills? And make up for all the missing family times? Not Bush 2 that's for sure. Nor the "Anointed One." He has his own set of problems.

Protocol, etiquette (and plain good sense)

Is there no one advising the prez & co. on protocol and/or etiquette or even basic manners anymore? 


When you bow to a monarch, you are  placing yourself as one of his subjects, or at least as subordinate in rank. 


On the other hand (no pun intended)  when a gentleman meets a lady, (not just a queen) it is proper for him to wait for the woman to initiate contact.  A man waits for the woman to extend her hand for shaking...or not.  And only a dolt of either gender puts his/her arm around somebody to whom s/he has just been introduced.  Puh-leeze!


I know that some adjusments have been made in the business setting, but this does not take the place of knowing the proper thing to do in a social or political situation.  I do not think the rules of manners and civility have changed overnight, have they? 


Now you're just plain rude. To try to belittle someone while spewing hatred.
First, you don't know me. Your insinuating that I have a crutch to fall on (religion). Sorry to debunk your theory but I'm not religious. I don't believe in your god.

Second, I don't listen to any of the leaders. If you've read any of my posts I've always stated I don't trust any of the politicians. I also read a wide variety of articles and I have an open mind and listen to every possibility. When you just pick one side and won't listen to everything you cut yourself off from the truth.

Third, for you to say "the most hideous and evil deeds in history have been done by people like me?" That is just downright rude (and I would say your remarks are hideous and evil, and that's putting it nicely).

You sure are one piece of work. And all because of what? I posted a link with some facts about your candidate you didn't like? This is why I belong to no political party (and no religious party). You'd probably eat it up and praise me if I put something negative about McCain (which I have also done).

I agree with another poster that said intolerance is the worse religion.

I also agree with the moderator who has said no more attacks on people. You need to read that post. After this post you will no longer be in my thoughts.

Hope your proud of your hateful and cruel comments. We all have our opinions. Guess I'm just shocked because this I think has to be one of the worst posts I've read so far. Never knew anyone to be so cruel and evil for them to say such things.
It was a campaign trip abroad, dear sm....plain and simple.
perhaps he accomplished what you say he did, in your eyes. But it was definitely a political trip. A global political trip, no doubt about it.

McCain is ancient history. I'm kinda glad he didn't get elected, as he's shown his true colors of late.


And your third paragraph? Nice try, dear.
au contraire.....what they do on the conservative board is bash the left....plain and simple. I thi
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ignorant self??
Believe me, honey, I am far from ignorant and Im just trying to educate those backward relic conservatives, trying to get them to live in the real world..Happy Days was fun to watch on TV but it is not reality..Now come on, put away your poodle skirt and move on..Democratic ideology is the future..
Ignorant? Not me.
I have done much research on stem cell research and I am definitely not ignorant.  However, from what positions I see conservatives take over the past 5 years or so, seems it is pot calling the kettle black.  Once again, a conservative just cannot debate an issue without name calling, too bad.
Ignorant? sm
There is nothing ignorant about deciding to take the candidates on face value or chosing to be positive and upbeat rather than hateful and divisive. What is ignorant is relying on these ill-informed, partisan, smutty, mud-slinging smears as the basis of chosing the leadership of our country. Anon is quite right. It boils down to satus quo versus change. Who are any of you to tell her any different? All you detractors and nay-sayers want to believe the very worst about your opposition candidates and their supporters and protest so much about how they cannot be trusted. The real dishonesty is found in these attack posts and are the least reliable of all.

Anon, you go girl! You deserve the peace that comes with being confident in your unwavering support. As for the rest of you Kamakazi posters, enjoy yourselves down there in your cesspools of hatred.
Ignorant? Really?
Who is this loser you are saying should shut up?
1. One of only 20 students in 1973 accepted into the freshman class at Julliard where he was one of 2 students (the other being Christopher Reeve) accepted into their advanced program of studies that same year.
2. Master of dialects and impersonation at Julliard.
3. Developed art of improvisation while starring on Mork and Mindy.
4. One-man-show stand-up comedian since 1978.
5. Comedy Central's #13 selection on top 100 stand-up comedians of all time.
6. Made 70 movies in the past 28 years, to include comedy, drama, animation and children's movies.
7. Received Academy Award nominations in 1988, 1989, 1991 and 2006.
8. Won the Oscar in 1998.
9. At age 32, kicked cocaine habit (25 years ago) after the death of his friend, John Belushi and the birth of his son.
10. Devotes a great deal of his time to raising money for charities through his and his wife's Windfall (philanthropic) Foundation, his favorite charity being Children's Promise.
11. Performed for USO for troops stationed in Iraq for 4 years.
12. Performed by personal invitation from Prince Charles at his 60th birthday celebration this year.

Seems like the only ignorance around here would be the kind that would express such ugly, ugly sentiments about such a brilliantly gifted talent as Robin Williams. Now THAT'S sad.
You are way ignorant.
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way ignorant

Ignorant of what?  The truth?? go give yourself a hug, get a mug of hot cocoa and grab your blankey and go to.....sleep


Ignorant is
believing you can predict the future while turning a blind eye to the past. Thanks. I will be on my merry way. I am looking forward to a kinder, gentler America, despite your best efforts to shower me with all your gloom, doom, apocalypse and armageddon. Have fun in that deep dark hole you are hunkered down in.
Boy, That Was Ignorant of You
"Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking."

You obviously haven't got the first clue about Christianity.


There are just as many ignorant

far right people as there are far left people.  It seems that both sides have people who can't help but say controversial things.  As for Sotamayor herself.....she is the one who made the racial comment that she would make better decisions than a white man because of her experience and being a latina woman.  I still say that if any white male had made any such racist comment, people, especially libs, would be calling for his head on a platter and he would not only lose his position but his career would be over.  There is the big difference.  It seems like minority groups are allowed to say racial things but the moment a white person does......all he!! breaks loose.


I personally feel that not only her comment was racist but for her to throw out those tests done by those firemen is both unfair and discrimination.  Every single firefighter....no matter what race they were.....were given the same materials and the same amount of time to study.  How can those tests be discriminatory towards minority groups?  It isn't like all the white folk got the information a month ahead and minority folks got only 2 days.  As far as I'm concerned, if minorities didn't score as high....they should have studied harder and they don't deserve a promotion.  To study hard, score high on the test, and be denied a promotion merely because you aren't a minority.....how is that not racist and discrimination?


Your information is so ignorant.....
of the real truth that is kind of scares me.  I am afraid that this is what the U.S. has become - a nation of ignorant lemmings who cannot read the information available and refuse to believe what has been documented over and over and over again....that we have been grievously misled by this administration.  PLEASE educate yourself, study multiple world-wide news and information sources from various political genres and THEN draw your conclusions.  And I can assure you, the conclusions may be painful and they will also be startlingly different from you currently hold to be true.
I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives.  What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you.  If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject.  Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
You are beyond ignorant Libby
You are not one bit objective. You are consumed by hate. If you will look at the C-board you will see we are debating issues having to do with our president such as the Supreme Court Nominee and much to this board's generalization we've not all drank the Bush Kool-Aid. Calling us Bush groupies is grossly in error. You are sooo consumed with hate you would believe anyone but Bush....well, that tells us how far your hate has taken you.
You are an ignorant fool
They are asking for things like deodorant, foot powder, Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations, feminine items like tampons.  Shampoo, conditioner, books, stationery to write home, Christmas cards, letters.  They want letters.  With every post you define YET AGAIN over and over how little you have a clue about our military and how little your regard for them.  And you will never get any better.  You will remain the pretenders of supporting the troops. As you have always been and you will always be.  Shameless, shameful, tragic. 
Ignorant post
Your ignorance is showing big time..I suggest to all of you who do not know how to debate, take a class at your local high school or college on debating..It is obvious most of the neocons, who for whatever reason I cant imagine frequent the liberal board, do not know how to debate intelligently, logically and fairly.  When debating, you do not attack the opposite side personally, you attack the ideas put forth by the opposite side.  Yet, reading over all the neocons posts on this board, all they do is attack the poster, not the ideas suggested and put forth..It gets ugly because they attack the poster, not the ideas, which makes me shake my head in wonder, as the neocons know nothing at all about the liberal poster, yet they assume greatly.  Please,  neocons, take a class on debating or probably you could even find out the correct way to debate by searching the internet..cause these personal attacks get tiring..so tiring..
I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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That is about the most ignorant thing

I have ever heard.  If that is truly how you feel, you are voting blindly.  This is why I fear this election.  Ignorant people voting for someone they haven't even researched just because they want change.  Well....sometimes change isn't for the better.  Granted....things suck right now but the last thing we need is a change for the worse and I believe that is what Obama will bring.  I don't like either candidate and am struggling with what to do, but I'm still researching and looking into things instead of voting blindly.  I will probably vote for McCain because I feel he is the lesser of the two evils, but I am truly not happy with either candidate. 


As for needing Dems in charge.....I know the current pres is republican but the dems have control of the congress.  I haven't seen much good out of them either.  I don't trust any politician because they are all out to line their pockets full of money while lying to the American people about the "changes" they will make in order to get elected in office and end up doing absolutely nothing they promised.


This post is entirely too ignorant
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You cannot possibly be that ignorant.....
Teenagers have been raising babies since the beginning of time. Only until the last few decades has it been scoffed at that a teenager should have a baby and NO, I don't encourage any young person to go that route before they finish school and hopefully go on to college or at least, find a spouse first and then have a child. In an ideal world, that is the route I would wish for them all.

But in Bristol's case, my point was, and you know it, that I doubt very seriously I will have to support her and her child. Do I want 12-even 17 year olds having babies? No, but I can GUARANTEE you because I see it in my community EVERYDAY, that if they are working to raise their own child and I mean truly out there WORKING and not sitting on their behinds letting me pay for their child, they more than likely will have learned a very valuable lesson in life about raising a child and will in all likelihood not be so fast to have another one.

But, when those teenagers who take no responsibility continue to have one child after another and they are ALL on the taxpayer's payroll, you better believe they have no business with a baby.

What business is it of yours if a teenager has a baby if you're not having to pay for it womb to whenever??

IGNORANT? I think this is over your head

Christianity is ONE faith.  In the world, of course, there are many others besides Christians that believe in God.  Are you following me? 


Christians are not the center of the world, if that is what you are implying...


BUT, the founding fathers were Christian.  That is all I am saying.