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As a mom of 3, I think that is absolutely great, the gift of experience, fun adventure, and learning

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-25
In Reply to: gifts - sunny

There are many ways to "gift" a person!  I think they are very wise and caring parents, just from what I observe from the outside.


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Yes, it's a great thing, absolutely unprecedented.
Honestly, I don't understand why people are so afraid of these changes that are being implemented.  Change can be GOOD!!  Especially when it's been broken for so long.  Three day in, and the naysayers are already saying they don't "trust" THIS adminstration.  Funny how they "trusted" the last one so blindly!
Yes, it's a great thing, absolutely unprecedented.

And yes, I got that one on my "Favorites" list!


Honestly, I don't understand why people are so afraid of these changes that are being implemented.  Change can be GOOD!!  Especially when it's been broken for so long.  Three days in, and the naysayers are already saying they don't "trust" THIS adminstration.  Funny how they "trusted" the last one so blindly!


learning curve

We (the royal we) are still learning to post according to your requirements of what is important to post about.  Please be patient.


 


Learning to adapt...
I am now in school to earn an accounting degree and I am most definitely taking the Speaking Spanish In Business class as an elective because it is here people - like it or not. You are all going to have to wake up and see where our future is heading and prepare for it - what is the problem with learning another language anyway? I don't say make their language "THE" language - but we have to live together and we might as well be able to work together!
Learning a second language.

You raised some important points on which I would like to comment.  If you are an MT, some of this will already be familiar to you, since we all have gone through the process of acquiring advanced medical language skills.


 


My husband speaks 5 languages (Farsi (L), Armenian, Greek, German (L) and English (L),  and is literate (L) in 3.  We met in 1990 as pen pals, a hobby he had adopted to facilitate acquiring and refining his literacy in English.  From what he tells me and what I learned from this process, there seem to be certain distinct stages of learning and using another language.  


 




  • Formal classes or other types of instruction to learn basic vocabulary, phonetics, entymology, grammar/syntax, reading, writing and comprehension, both written and verbal. 



  • Practice, practice and practice some more.  Use it or lose it.  Typically, beyond the basics, the student will progress through the easiest to the most difficult skills in stages.  The first 4 basics (stage 1), followed by the next 2 (stage 2), then written/reading and verbal comprehension (stage 3). 



  • Verbal comprehension in and of itself is also a 2-stage process.  In that final stage, most often the student will understand the foreign language much more easily (and for a much longer period of time) when it is spoken to them or around them.  The most difficult stage of foreign language usage is the final stage of actually being able to produce coherent conversation with confidence. 

Most of us never really get beyond the classroom/instruction level.  It is a real challenge to find the time and the stage on which the remainder of the process can be played out.  Here are a few ideas on how to overcome that obstacle. 


 


·       Finding venues for Spanish acquisition is pretty easy.  Watch TV in that language.  Start out with children’s programs and advance according to your comfort level.


   


·       Rent movies.  The ones with subtitles are particularly helpful.


 


·       Listen to music and/or radio stations.


 


·       Read books.  Again, start with children’s and work your way up. 


 


·       Put yourself in environments where that language is being used.  Perhaps you could volunteer to tutor an ESL student who speaks your language of interest.  Church services, ethnic restaurants, public events, etc.  Speaking events, such as public political forums, where both languages may be spoken are particularly helpful. 


 


·       Find an on-line language partner.  See below. 


 


·       Make friends with someone who speaks that language. 


 


·       Find a pen pal. 


 


Here are a few resources: 


 



  • ESL Idea Generator.  Great ideas on how to teach English as a second language.  Find access to a language partner and you and your partner could try some of these suggestions.  It is really fun to do…kind of like a game of charades.


http://iteslj.org/Techniques/Houston-TeachingIdeas.html




  • Rosetta Stone Language Exchange Network.  Text and voice chat / language exchange partners

http://www.sharedtalk.com/index.aspx?SRC=GAds.SN.en.Language.Exchange&gclid=CIqy8JrcyZQCFSEragodImWSkw


 



  • TT 4 You On-Line Language Exchange.  Voice chat forum / enhance conversation skills.  Handy translation query text box

http://www.tt4you.com/


 


Most importantly, keep is casual and fun.   


I am learning too but interested in
even-sided with obama and dodd's names all over the place?
"I am learning at the feet of the masters."

As I said, you seem to need to lace your posts with insults.  You've never answered how that comprises good debating technique.  You have only blamed other posters for your own behavior.


You continue to call me Teddy as some sort of taunt I suppose.  And I remember you accusing me of being other folks posting....heck we even invited you to email several of us in order to prove via email that we were different people but you declined to do so.  Apparently the belief that we were all the same person was somehow comforting in a world full of evil liberals!


I know I'm learning real fast here
I keep seeing posts about how awful the republicans are, blah, blah, blah. Then comes the lies and false statement without any facts. But the minute you put something out there about Obama with a link and reliable sources you get jumped on and called evil. I'll tell ya, makes me think Hitler is still alive and visits this board. HA HA. I've seen the attacks on Sam before so I guess I should have realized this. Guess it just shocked me.
A birthday gift?
Interesting concept!  I usually get to choose to whom I give gifts....
AIG - the gift that keeps on giving. sm
Beginning with the first bailout under the Bush administration, and accelerating apace (which one wouldn't have thought possible) under Obama, the ineptitude in dealing with every aspect of the current economic problems is simpy staggering.

This ineptitude includes both Presidents, both Treasury secretaries, the man who was/is Fed chairman under both Presidents(Bernanke), Congress, and regulatory agencies such as the SEC and FDIC.

Consider this interesting little fact: It has taken six months for the Ethics Committee to investigate some fairly simple charges of financial misconduct by Charlie Rangel, but Congress can pass three major bills, two of which were so large they couldn't be read by anyone, in a matter of a few days (and in the case of the third bill which unconstitutionally taxes AIG bonuses, in just one day).

My dear friends, this country is in trouble. The government is behaving impulsively and has, in my long life, never before been in such a state of disarray. Our response to the financial crisis is beginning to look like nothing so exquisitely as a Chinese fire drill.

We are apparently determined to prove to the world that we're going to make a pig's breakfast out of this crisis, but hey...at least we did it fast!

Impulsive and reckless government - THAT is what the American people (and the world) are seeing, and THAT is what I believe is beginning to frighten us even more than the economic crisis itself.
Be worried about blind loyalty, not learning from history....sm
be worried about people who put party politics before the good of the country and its people, be worried about waging foreign wars we have NO RIGHT to fight (and by the way, what are we winning there, please remind me). And where do all you DOOMSDAY PROPHETS get all your future information, do you channel Nostradamus,have a crystal ball, or what???
It's not low class to give a gift...(sm)

that was requested.  I guess you ignored the other gift they gave her.  Sounds to me like the Obamas did their homework.  Maybe that's why the queen put her arm around Michelle and yet doesn't like to touch anyone else (reportedly).


Let's face it.  You guys absolutely can't stand the fact that a democrat is in the White House and that he's doing an excellent job.  Kind of makes the last guy look like Barney Fife.


Uh oh...what was that?  Oh....that was just the Dow going up again today.  


Wailin Palin -- the gift that just keeps on giving...(sm)

That's right...she's back.  Now she's giving interviews for a documentary.  She's whining about how everything is her handler's fault, admitting that she bombed the first Couric interview but the handler's made her go back for more.  She's saying Caroline Kennedy is getting different treatment because she is in a different "class."  Yeah right, Caroline is getting killed by the media right now.  And my personal favorite, she said if she had run on the democratic ticket she would have been treated differently.  What a goof.


There are much more important issues than gift giving.
This subject may be of interest to a child, but it has nothing to do with politics or issues that are important to adults. Who the heck cares whether Barack Obama believes in giving gifts? By definition, it was a rumor!

ru·mor

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
2. Unverified information received from another.
I guess because they/we fund it maybe? Not a birthday gift. nm
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Putin had just received the baby tigers as a gift.
Don't sweat the small stuff. The country is about to embark on a grim path which very well could include wandering bands of hungry ruthless thieves, heavily armed, raping and pillaging, and the young, old and weak will be their victims.

Do you realize the state of the situation? Do you realize the very real possibilities of the suffering in store for all of us because of fraud and blatent misconduct and mismanagement under the republican administration?

You Americans should feel fortunate to have this man stand up for you.

What is wrong with you people?
Here's what I've found about Obamas' gift giving.


In a magazine interview Obama and his wife Michelle revealed that one of their steadfast house rules is not giving Christmas or birthday presents to Malia, 10, and Sasha, 7.


The couple explained that they spend "hundreds" on birthday slumber parties and want to "teach some limits". Santa Claus is still permitted to deliver seasonal gifts however.


Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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You're a liar. GT didn't curse. You're a filthy liar, but you are a gift from God.
God sent you here to as a constant reminder of the kind of person I DON'T want to be and if I ever have a bad day when I feel temporarily stupid, all I have to do is read your posts, and I realize there are those out there who are much worse off than I am and for them it's not temporary.
Experience. (nm)
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I'm not sure how someone with no experience can

Experience
   You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143
days of experience.

   You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of  experience of
being a surgeon.

   You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143
days of experience.

   You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of
experience.

   You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor
after 143 days of experience.

   BUT....

'From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the
time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he
logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the
Senate was actually in session and working.  After 143 days of work
experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of
the  Free World .... 143 days.

We all have to start somewhere. The senate is an okay start, but after 143
days, that's all it is - a  start.

AND, strangely, a large sector of the American  public is okay with this and
campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet
some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America?
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!

Please forward this before it's too late!
In my experience
I am ashamed to say I have a relative living off welfare. He and his wife use their 4 kids and one grandson to support themselves. They are part of the 40% who don't pay taxes at all. This past year they got around $2,000 in tax refunds. They bought a swimming pool and a trampoline. The rest was a down payment on their 3rd car. Every vehical is newer than what I drive. I have no problem with tax cuts for people who NEED them. Instead of giving people like this free money why not use it in a more deserving area. Maybe some of those truly needing welfare could use it for job training. Or put it towards the elderly who have worked there whole lives.
My experience...
First day, early voting.  Walk into Baum Center, NC, to vote.  Two feet from door, two chairs with end table between.  What's on end table?  Time magazine with SP on the cover.  After standing in line and being made aware of this, I went over and promptly  turned magazine over.  Didn't want to make a scene.  Called local board of elections, state board of elections, and local democratic party headquarters.  Apparently, my first call did the trick.  Within half an hour, I received a call from democratic party hearquarters that the magazine was no longer there for everyone to see as soon as they walked in to vote.  Yeah for me!  I did my job today.  Let's all be observant.  It may not seem blatant, but it really is. 
my view on experience is...
I don't think experience is that big of an issue - nobody has "experience" at being the President of the United States until they get elected - and I don't think that the experience that Hillary claims is any real experience anyway.

I am excited at the prospect of having somebody in office who has no "experience" - maybe they will really want to "change" the way the "experienced" people have been doing things!
She's the only one of the four with executive experience
Obama has little experience even as a legislator, but you believe this smart woman with executive leadership experience is less qualified to be president should it come to that? No, I don't think so.
She has as much experience as Obama....
and she is second chair, not first chair. We get Obama's experience level in first chair. This argument really doesn't hold water. No wanting to start a fight...but she actually has experience running a state. He doesn't. So actually...she has more experience than he does. Don't really think, and I mean no disrespect...the no experience thing holds water.
She has more experience than your #1 chair...
has no reverend wright, has no William Ayers, is exactly the change Washington needs. I believe when comparisons start to be made, if change is indeed what you want...she is definitely NOT a washington insider and has a reputation for being a reformer. I thought your candidate wanted change from Washington politics. Has that changed? Oh...it is good when he says it, but here is someone who is exactly what he said Washington needs...oohhhhh but she is not a Democrat. Got it.
Experience issue will not go away soon.
Whether or not a candidate is "ready" to lead is the voter's prerogative to investigate...or not. I hate nasty politics too and often will turn a blind eye to it. On the other hand, checking into it from time to time does give one a better perspective on just how divided our country has become and what issues flames the fires of discontent the most. Voters also decide whether malcontents should be left to stew in their own juices or if they are addressing legitimate, common concerns in an inappropriate manner that require attention from our highest leadership.

Beyond that, judgments must be made as to which candidate, party, issues, policies, etc. best represent not only the individual's best interests and their vision of what America is or is not, but also the best interest of the nation as a whole...another purely subjective and biased concept, depending on who you talk to. It's the nature of the beast.

What I believe about research is that it is much more valuable as a process, rather than a final destination. If one is able to come out of their comfort zone and expose themselves to many sides of the same issue, it is their own reactions and gut instincts that will help them better identify, define, prioritize, express and embody their own personal political beliefs. If the objective of research is a drive-by pot shot, the insight gained will be as fleeting and as memorable as chat room archives.
Hey - just asking, Speaking from experience.
That's why I work at home.
She already has more executive experience than your guy...
and he is 1st chair. All those negatives you posted are positives for a lot of people. THe state ethics committee investigation is not over yet, and frankly, a state trooper who tasers an 11-year-old (oh he asked me to) SHOULD be fired in my humble opinion. And a state trooper who threatens the life of his estranged wife and her parents should not be wearing the uniform of a state trooper. But that is just me, I guess.

I am sure the people of Alaska are thrilled to hear that the Democrat supporters of Obama are marginalizing them into nothing because they have smaller population than Austin, Texas.

All this kind of post does is show how petty, vindictive and mean people can get when their backs are up against the wall and they think they might lose.

The DNC should have thought about all this before they took on the Clintons. Howard Dean messed up big time.
Executive experience is a big zero
You showed up late today so rather than repeating everything that has already been said on this imponent executive experience media mantra thing, please catch up on your reading. Also, the issue of her not running has been exercised in light of the very real possibility that she would be positioned to take over sooner rather than later. Besides, the Bimbos Unite! cult sure seems to think she is running for president. You will notice just how absent McCain has been from the spotlight since yesterday morning. The notion that our party is somehow fractured or not strongly unified is more of your delusional thinking. McCain took care of that when he decided to insult most of thinking women in this country by selecting a token female he met once to save his sinking ship. Strategy is lame, transparent and has actually created an angry backlash from Hillary supporters and women in general that will make Hurricane Gustav look like a a flushing toilet. You got no idea what you are talking about when you try to analyze the democratic party but please do us all a favor and continue to feed your delusions. theonly thing that's going to come back and bite bigtime is what's-her-name calling Hillary a whiner and McCain calling US economic refugees whiners. We do agree on one thing here. Sweeeeet!
How can we make a man with less experience than the #2...
on McCain's ticket...? In the world the way it is today? I see far less danger on the other side...just my opinion.
you know in my experience in the MT field I have
than those that have 15+ years of experience in the MT field. It depends on the person and how they handle the knowledge they have...
Experience....but have no doubt...
McCain/Palin will bring change with their experience. Just not the kind of social marxist change the dems want to enforce.

I have no faith in any kind of so-called change from any current member of the Democratic party.

This is the experience currently being discussed.
Before answering the question, please read the following. This is posted in response to pub spin that would assert SP is better qualified to lead the country because of O's lack of experience. Of special note are the numerous foreign relations committee diplomatic initiatives listed below. Of course, I would be interested in any comparabl experience SP may have that the pubs can produce. I have saved this post and will be using it in reply to any similar assertions made by pubs in the future whenever I encounter them. Hope format is not too seedy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Senate_career_of_Barack_Obama
In Illinois senate O Worked to get BIPARTISAN support on legislation on:
1. Ethics reform.
2. Health care reform.
3. Sponsored bills for earned income tax credits for low-income workers.
4. Provisions for $100 million in tax cuts to families.
5. Provisions for early childhood education.
6. Welfare reform.
7. Childcare subsidies.
8. Funding for churches and community groups.
9. Chairman of the Health and Human Services Committee.
10. Instituted requirement for transparent videotaped police interrogations of suspects in capitol cases after a number of death row inmates were found innocent.
11. Measures against racial profiling.
12. Campaign finance reform.
13. Restrictions on lobbyists activities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_career_of_Barack_Obama
In US Senate:
1. Senate Committee (SC) on Foreign Relations.
2. SC on Health.
3. SC on Health.
4. SC on Labor and Pensions.
5. SC on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
6. SC on Veterans' Affairs.
7. Member of Congressional Black Caucus.
8. Chairman of the Subcommitte on European Affairs.
9. Border security and Immigration reform. Cosponsor "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act introduced by JM.
10. Added 3 amendments to the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act.
11. Supported Secure Fence Act for security improvements along US-Mexico border.
12. Cosponsored Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006.
13. Introduced expansions to Cooperative Threat Reduction Program to secure and dismantle weapons of mass destruction and their associated infrastructure in former Soviet Union states.
14. Sponsor of Democratic Republic of Congo Relief, Security and Democracy Promotion Act, signed by Bush, to restore basic services like clinics and schools, train a professional, integrated and accountable police force and military, and otherwise support the Congolese in protecting their human rights and rebuilding their nation.
15. As member of Foreign Relations Committee, he made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa. His 2005 trip to Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan focus on strategy planning for the control of world's supply of conventional weapons, biological weapons and WMDs and defense against potential terrorist attacks.
16. January 2006, met with US military in Kuwait and Iraq. Visited Jordan, Israel and Palestinian territories. Asserted preconditions that US will never recognize legitimacy of Hamas leadership until they renounce elimination of Israel.
17. August 2006, official trip to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad where he made televised appearance addressing ethnic rivalries and corruption in Kenya.
18. Worked on Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, signed into law, to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions.
19. Cosponsored bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections to include fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls.
20. Cosponsored climate change bill to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by two-thirds by 2050.
21. Promoted liquefied coal production of gas and diesel.
22. Introduced Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 to cap troop levels as prelude to phased troop withdrawal and removal of all combat brigades.
23. Cosponsored amendment to Defense Authorization Act safeguarding personality disorder military discharges.
24. Sponsored Iran Sanctions Enabling Act in support of divestment of state pensions funds from Iran's oil and gas industry.
25. Introduced legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism., provisions of which were added as amendments to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.
26. Sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance program providing one-year job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries, which passed both houses of Congress with bipartisan support but was ultimately vetoed by fearless George.

You must have EXECUTIVE experience
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Speaking from experience?
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Aaaah, experience, huh?
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And I say again....look at all the experience on the hill now....
and where did it get us? In the worst financial crisis since the depression. Frankly, at this point, "experience" means ZIP to me. I am ready for some good old common sense. I don't care if they talk "purty," I want some good DECISIONS. She is looking the best to me in that area!
I don't care about experience
I care about COMMON SENSE!!!
Im just tellin it from my experience
Any child born to american parents on american soil is a US citizen. I don't know about Japan but all the babies born in German hospitals even if their parents were americans were german until they registered them to US citizenship. With Obama his mother was US citizen but could not meet the 10 year residence requirement to apply for citizenship.
Nervous now? Needs more experience.
if another attack hits our country? What, he will be too nervous? Cannot imagine how he would respond.
who has experience being the President? nm
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Is this your experience as a gum flapper?
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Lacking experience?

That is really rich coming from an Obama supporter considering the little experience he had.....which I do believe his own VP commented on.  Hmmm!


experience versus wisdom

to change the downward course of the nation.  Haven't you been listening?


 


those are traits, not experience - see message
What you do and how you vote in your time in the senate, congress, as a governor, etc...THOSE are the skills needed to run a country. Knowing how our economy works, how to create jobs (and keep jobs), how to fight for the American people to give them health care we need, etc. How I decide to vote will be based upon a person's expereince and their voting record. Not if someone spent time as POW. Nobody is taking away from his horrible years. He is a true patriot, but like I said in my original message...being a POW does not automatically qualify you to be president.
Excuse me. He has all the experience, judgment
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Sorry, but Obama has a lifetime of experience
next to this moose-stew-loving chick! WT*?! What was he thinking when he chose her?! Obviously, not about this country and what happens if she needed to takeover!