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But why is scrutinizing how he gifts his wife and chldren, with his own money, anyone's business.

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-25
In Reply to: All public figures are scrutinized, especially - Backwards typist

I can see scrutinizing his speeches, his proposals, his statements, his appointments. foreign and domestic policies, etc., but even a President deserves a personal life with his family.


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At least McCain's wife puts her money into

I haven't seen anything on that. I see where she helps her own race. I haven't heard anything about her helping children with health problems like Mrs. McC.


If anyone has any proof that Mrs. O does help others, I'd seriously like to know about it.


gifts
Michelle spoke at a women's group meeting of some sort way before the election and said that they prefer to spend money on experiences for the girls, like camps, sleepovers, stuff like that.  If you Google Michelle's speeches you may find it. 
Bush parting gifts....(sm)

List of pardons and commutations thus far.  How many drug dealers has he now put back on the streets?  My personal favorites are the ones abusing food stamps.  I would say that's a big turnaround for a pub.  And before you guys start throwing a fit, yes Clinton pardoned some nice ones too.  I'm just keeping up with what's going on.


Pardons



  1. James Leon Adams (1965 selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)[6]
  2. Kristan Diane Bullock Akins (1990 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[7]
  3. Charles James Allen (1979 conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  4. William Thomas Alvis III (Possession of an unregistered firearm, distribution of cocaine)[8]
  5. John Allen Aregood a/k/a Johnny (Sonny) Aregood (Conspiracy to harbor and transport illegal aliens)[8]
  6. Tony Dale Ashworth (1989 unlawful transfer of a firearm)[6]
  7. Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)[9]
  8. William L. Baker (1980 falsifying records)[10]
  9. William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981 conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  10. Timothy Evans Barfield (1989 aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  11. Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)[11]
  12. George Francis Bauckham (1958 unlawful detention or delay of the mail by a postal employee)[10]
  13. David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)[12]
  14. Eric Charles Blanke (Making impressions of obligations of the United States)[8]
  15. James Allen (Albert) Bodendieck, Sr. (1959 interstate transportation of a stolen vehicle)[13][14]
  16. Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975 military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  17. Gene Armand Bridger (1963 Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, and mail fraud)[15]
  18. Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982 possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
  19. Kenneth Charles Britt (1998 conspiracy to violate fish and wildlife laws)[10]
  20. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possession of stolen mail)[13]
  21. Charles Wayne Bryant (1962 theft of U.S. mail matter by employee)[13]
  22. William Bruce Butt (1990 bank embezzlement)[10]
  23. Mariano Garza Caballero (1984 dealing in firearms without a license)[10]
  24. Carl E. Cantrell (1967 moonshining)[16]
  25. Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)[16]
  26. Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)[17]
  27. Ronald William Cauley (1980 Misapplication of bank funds by an employee)[7]
  28. Steve Doyle Cavender (Conspiring to import, possess, distribute and dispense marijuana; importing and causing to be imported marijuana; possessing marijuana with intent to distribute)[8]
  29. Cathryn Iline Clasen-Gage (1992 Misprision of a felony)[15]
  30. Leslie Owen Collier (unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act)[2]
  31. Thomas Kimble Collinsworth (1989 Receipt of a stolen motor vehicle that had been transported in interstate commerce)[15]
  32. Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging) [9]
  33. Milton Kirk Cordes (conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, prohibiting importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws)[2]
  34. Anthony John Curreri (1976 Mail fraud) [18]
  35. Morris F. Cranmer, Jr. (1988 Making materially false statements to a federally-insured institution)[15]
  36. Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989 making a false statement)
  37. Richard Micheal Culpepper (making false statements to the federal government)[2]
  38. William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)[12]
  39. Randall Leece Deal (1960 and 1964 liquor laws)[6]
  40. Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer (reporting or helping cover up a crime)[2]
  41. Paul Jude Donnici (September 23, 1993) Use of a telephone in the transmission of wagering information [19]
  42. William Henry Eagle (1972 moonshining)[6]
  43. Mark Alan Eberwine (1985 conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  44. Rusty Lawrence Elliott (1991 Making counterfeit Federal Reserve notes)[15]
  45. Marie Elena Eppens of Lynden, Wash. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
  46. Robert Carter Eversole (1984 theft)[6]
  47. Lydia Lee Ferguson of Sun City, Ariz. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
  48. Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)[17]
  49. Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[16]
  50. Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991 bank fraud)[6]
  51. Anthony Americo Franchi (1983 tax evasion)
  52. Colin Earl Francis (1993 accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  53. Victoria Diane Frost (1994 conspiracy to possess)[6]
  54. William Grover Frye (1968 AWOL and 1973 sale of stolen car)[6]
  55. Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses) [9]
  56. George Glenn (1956 accepting $50 bribe while in military)
  57. Eduviges Duvi Gonzalez-Matsumura of Clovis, Calif. (aiding and abetting embezzlement of bank funds)[8]
  58. George Clarence Greene Jr. (Mail fraud)[8]
  59. Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)[19]
  60. Adam Wade Graham (1992 Conspiracy to deliver 10 or more grams of LSD)[15]
  61. Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)[19]
  62. Stanley Bernard Hamilton 1990 (money order fraud)[6]
  63. Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)[11]
  64. Andrew Foster Harley (wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine)[2]
  65. George Thomas Harley (1984 aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  66. Rufus Edward Harris (1963 Possession and selling tax-unpaid whiskey)[15]
  67. Jesse Ray Harvey (1990 Property damage by use of explosives and destruction of an energy facility)[15]
  68. David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)[11]
  69. Melodie Jean Hebert (1984 defrauding U.S. with false claims)[6]
  70. Obie Gene Helton (unauthorized acquisition of food stamps)[2]
  71. Carey C. Hice Sr. (income tax evasion)[2]
  72. Geneva Yvonne Hogg (bank embezzlement)[2]
  73. Patricia Ann Hultman (1985 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  74. James Won Hee Kang a/k/a Won Hee Kang (Trafficking in counterfeit goods)[8]
  75. Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 operation of an illegal distillery)[16]
  76. James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984 fraudulent firearms dealer records)[6]
  77. Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 and false statement on a loan application)[12]
  78. Devin Timothy Kruse (1979 AWOL from Coast Guard)[6]
  79. Margaret Ann Leggett (1981 false claims)
  80. Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court) [9]
  81. Larry Paul Lenius (1989 Conspiracy to distribute cocaine)[15]
  82. Larry Lee Lopez (1985 Conspiracy to import marijuana)[15]
  83. Alan Stephen Maiss (Misprision of a felony)[8]
  84. Bobbie Archie Maxwell (1962 Mailing a threatening letter)[15]
  85. David B. McCall, Jr. (1997 False entry in bank books and aiding and abetting)[20]
  86. William Hoyle McCright Jr. (making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank)[2]
  87. Paul Julian McCurdy (misapplication of bank funds)[2]
  88. Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)[16]
  89. Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)[16]
  90. Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)[12]
  91. Craven Wilford McLemore (1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Caddo County) [18]
  92. Denise Bitters Mendelkow (1981 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[15]
  93. Richard Harold Miller (Conspiracy to defraud the United States)[8]
  94. Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)[11]
  95. Robert Earl Mohon Jr. (conspiracy to distribute marijuana)[2]
  96. Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)[12]
  97. Ronald Alan Mohrhoff (unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony)[2]
  98. Richard Arthur Morse (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[17]
  99. Gerard Murphy (1972 car theft)[6]
  100. Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)[19]
  101. Delano Abraham Nixon (Forging the endorsement on a U.S. Treasury check)[8]
  102. Joseph Mathew Novak (1994 possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)[6]
  103. Eric William Olson (1984 military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  104. Glanus Terrell Osborne (1990 possessing a stolen motor vehicle)[14]
  105. John H. Overholt (Concealment of information affecting Social Security benefits)[8]
  106. Morris Keith Parker (Misprision of a felony)[8]
  107. Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)[16]
  108. Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)[17]
  109. Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[16]
  110. Michael John Pozorski (1988 Unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm)[15]
  111. Daniel Figh Pue III (illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit)[2]
  112. Robert Truman Reece (Unauthorized absence,missing ship's movement)[8]
  113. Thomas R. Reece (1969 violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  114. James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[12]
  115. Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)[17]
  116. John Louis Ribando (1976 and 1978 marijuana dealing)[6]
  117. Donald Edward Roessler (Embezzlement of mail matter)[8]
  118. Larry Gene Ross (1989 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  119. Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns) [9]
  120. Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property) [9]
  121. John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)[16]
  122. Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)[17]
  123. Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)[12]
  124. Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)[16]
  125. David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)[9]
  126. Jearld David Swanner (1991 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  127. James Walter Taylor (1991 bank fraud. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
  128. Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)[19]
  129. Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud)(Revoked a day later)[8]
  130. Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997 theft, convicted in military court)[6]
  131. Janet Theone Upton (1975 mail fraud. pardoned December 21, 2006)
  132. Orion Lynn Vick (aiding and abetting the theft of government property)[2]
  133. Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)[6]
  134. Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)[9]
  135. Mark Lewis Weber (1981 Selling Quaalude tablets, selling, using, and possessing marijuana )[15]
  136. Roger Charles Weber (1969 Theft from an interstate shipment)[7]
  137. David Lane Woolsey (Aiding and abetting violation of the Archaeological Resources Protection Act)[8]

Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud) George W. Bush has revoked his pardon after discovering Issac Robert Toussie's father donated USD $28,500 to the Republican Party in April.[21]



[edit] Commutations



  1. Anthony C. Foglio aka Tony Foley (1996 distributing marijuana)[10]
  2. Marvin Robert Foster (1968 making a false statement in connection with a Federal Housing Administration loan)[10]
  3. Carl Harry Hachmeister (1985 conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud)[10]
  4. William Marcus McDonald (1984 Air Force court-martial for cocaine and marijuana charges)[10]
  5. Robert Michael Milroy (1975 heroin importation)[10]
  6. Jerry Lynn Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[10]
  7. Thomas Donald Moldenhauer (1994 selling migratory bird parts in violation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act)[10]
  8. Richard James Putney (1996 aiding and abetting the escape of a prisoner)[10]
  9. Timothy Alfred Thone (1987 making a false statement to the Department of Housing and Urban Development to obtain a mortgage)[10]
  10. Lonnie Edward Two Eagle Sr. (1976 misdemeanor simple assault on an Indian reservation)[10]
  11. Jimmy Lee Williams (1995 false statements on a loan application)[16]
  12. William Charles Jordan Jr. (1997 conspiracy to gamble regarding football)[14]
  13. Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possessing stolen mail)[14]
  14. Jackie Ray Clayborn (1993 marijuana charges)[14]
  15. John Fornaby (1991 conspiring to distribute cocaine)[14]
  16. Melton Harrell (1976 stealing government property)[14]
  17. Saul Kaplan (1992 violating the Federal Election Campaign Act)[14]
  18. John F. McDermott (1995 receiving kickbacks in defense procurement contracts)[14]
  19. William James Norman (1970 moonshining)[14]
  20. Gordon Allen Brown (1979 stealing government property) [14]
  21. John Forté (possession with intent to distribute cocaine and conspiracy to distribute)[22]
  22. Leslie Owen Collier of Charleston, Mo. He was convicted for unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act.
  23. Milton Kirk Cordes of Rapid City, S.D. Cordes was convicted of conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, which prohibits importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws.
  24. Richard Micheal Culpepper of Mahomet, Ill., who was convicted of making false statements to the federal government.
  25. Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer of Fort Worth, Texas, for reporting or helping cover up a crime.
  26. Andrew Foster Harley of Falls Church, Va. Harley was convicted of wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine.
  27. Obie Gene Helton of Rossville, Ga., whose offense was unauthorized acquisition of food stamps.
  28. Carey C. Hice Sr. of Travelers Rest, S.C., who was convicted of income tax evasion.
  29. Geneva Yvonne Hogg of Jacksonville, Fla., convicted of bank embezzlement.
  30. William Hoyle McCright Jr. of Midland, Texas, who was sentenced for making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank.
  31. Paul Julian McCurdy of Sulphur, Okla., who was sentenced for misapplication of bank funds.
  32. Robert Earl Mohon Jr. of Grant, Ala., who was convicted of conspiracy to distribute marijuana.
  33. Ronald Alan Mohrhoff of Los Angeles, who was convicted for unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony.
  34. Reed Raymond Prior of Des Moines, Iowa who was sentenced for possession of methamphetamine with intent to distribute.[8]
  35. Daniel Figh Pue III of Conroe, Texas, convicted of illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit.
  36. Orion Lynn Vick of White Hall, Ark., who was convicted of aiding and abetting the theft of government property

Don't have to be Muslim to not give gifts -
My boss is a practicing Christian in a Southern Baptist church and she does not give Christmas presents. She does celebrate Christmas, but she says it is about love and family and celebrating Christ - and on top of that (in her words), it is Jesus's birthday and he is the only one that deserves presents on his birthday...
In other words, you can't. Thanks for trying. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
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Kenya has no business in the business of the U.S.

I may be an idjit myself and I am certainly the most cynical of the cynical.  While I'm about it, I think Obama's mom was a bit of an idjit for making the decisions she made in life but I guess that was her business. 


As for GWB, he certainly does deserve some discussion.  Like why did he not straight away pardon those 2 border patrol agents who were the target of the worst miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen?  Could there be something synister there?  I think so.


I am most certainly NOT a liberal and by the heart of conservatives, I am NOT a conservative either.  I do agree with them (if they really believe it) that abortion and gay marriage are wrong.  HOWEVER, my opinion being stated, I believe those are moral issues and as such belong to God and not the government.  I also do not believe God requires my assistance in passing judgement on them.


Soooo....with all the problems we were facing, t here are many more important issues than Obama's birth certificate.  I drug my feet in voting for Obama but I do  have a glimmer of hope that he is working to at least get some plan in place for the day he is inaugerated.  Everyone deserves a chance.  The American people have spoken so it's time to put this b/c nonissue to rest and get to the business of importance...like millions of people projected to be unemployed and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which if something isn't done and soon we are headed for the worst times most of you have ever seen and you'll have enough to worry about just wondering how you're going to put food on the table.


Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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It takes money to make money. nm


Maybe he and his wife were too...

...tired from being forced to move the SECOND time (due to Bush's ignorance regarding Blair house) to listen to any more BS.


What McCain's ex-wife says about him...

"I'm crazy about John McCain and I love him to pieces," Carol McCain told the New York Times, "but I'm just not going to do interviews."


Doesn't sound bitter to me.  She forgave him, point is moot.


They all lie! At least he never cheated on his wife.
He's a disgusting womanizing (thinks he's a hottie) pig!  He has no respect for women, period, the end.  JMHO of course.
Yes, it is Benny Hinn's wife. nm
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Help the wife. Lock up the rest of us.
All the other democrats you named in similar situations are not running for president in 2008. This guy is not fit to be my leader.
You forgot that scary wife of his...
she is the one to be worried about also. You know she wears the pants in that family!
But it is okay that McCain cheated on his wife.

McCain commits adultery and that makes him a better candidate?  I don't think so. 


Isn't it a shame that this Messiah stuff is all they can come up for a well spoken American who just happens to be half white and half black.  Cut me a break.


This board is awful, just awful.  Pubs speak out of both sides of their mouths.


By blatently having dinner with his wife?
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Refreshing to see he loves his wife, and isn't
And it's about time, too. Out with the old, and in with the new!

YAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
Well, gee. I think Bush loves his wife too.
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I think it is wonderful that he really seems to love this wife that much.....sm
not that spending money on someone is a measure of love, but when they are together, when they interact, when they exchange looks, they look like a deeply committed, loving, happy, devoted, and inspirational couple. Perhaps he just wanted to inspire joy to his wife for his own reasons. Lucky Michelle!
Never hurts to have a senator's wife

Doesn't mean she has to actually DO anything to earn the bucks.  She got a great big raise (nearly triple - and still claimed they had trouble paying off their college loans) when he was elected to the senate.   I imagine her primary duty at the hospital was simply to be Mrs. Senator Obama, so naturally no one could possibly replace her.


Whenever I see a photo of MO with that huge toothy grin I am reminded of a Kate Hepburn line as Eleanor in Lion in Winter.  She describes one of her husband's former mistresses as having prominent teeth, ''She smiled to excess, but chewed with real distinction.''


Bill Clinton also cheated on his wife....
while he was President. It did not seem to affect his ability to run the country.
McCain's wife is an HEIRESS, remember?

I agree, DH's wife is bitter/naunaw
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Prior military wife myself - know how it works -
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Regarding his relations with Blago and his crooked wife, not O
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/10/AR2008121003232.html?hpid=topnews

Notice the part where he goes out of his way to dampen any speculation about Obama. As usual, you guys are grasping at straws that are not there....AGAIN.
American Muslim beheads wife.....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,493645,00.html
Are you okay with police shooting a man who's about to kill his wife?
I'm sure you are, unless you're really as nutz as I think you are.

So...'Splain the difference to me, Lucy! The justification is precisely the same regarding a terrorist who's planning to kill thousands - except MORE SO.

You pathetic boob.
Amanda's been wife of a solder, and then mother to

It *seems* to her the veteran showed disrespect to the flag, but I doubt she can come up with a concrete alternative way for him to have removed that flag, managed it single-handed, while being able to defend himself. 


I think when our embassies have been under attack, the folks who took down those flags were probably in as much of a hurry, and I doubt they did anything differently. 


Good analogy, by the way, about the grandfather.  First you protect the kid, then you dust him off and see whether he's hurt. 


As to stomping on the Mexican flag, no, I would not have.  The store owners may have flown the two flags as they did out of ignorance, not to show deliberate disrespect.  They may not have bothered to familiarize themselves with the law.  They may not even speak English, but have now received a valuable lesson, which I hope someone will explain to them.  If they are wise, they will learn from it.  If not, they will get together several hundred of their closest friends, petition Obama, march, riot, demand ''equality'' now, and be a general pain in the patootie.  I would love to see the followup on this....


What kind of man would divorce his wife at a time like this? Oh, never mind...
what am I saying?

The jerk - provided she truly is going through divorce now.
Don't forgot Bernadine Dohrn....Ayers' wife
This lady is just as dangerous as Ayers'. She is one of the Wethermen terrorist and has helped with Obama's fundraisers to boot. O really has some dangerous/sick friends. She has also served on panels with him. He considers her a friend. She also thought the Manson Murders were a good thing!!!
Ayers is a jerk. He & his wife belong in jail.
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I think Trigger Happy is Either Tech Support's Wife
he/she has adopted to try to talk to him/herself.


I think Trigger Happy is Either Tech Support's Wife
he/she has adopted to try to talk to him/herself.


Conyers wife pleads guilty to bribery
Isn't surprising...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7938249&page=1


Or how about leaving your wife who is sick and dying of cancer to run for President
There! Don't sling mud unless your prepared to get it back in the face.

Palin has a loving and caring family that is backing her and taking care of things - and I doubt very much she is "leaving" her baby. Sheesh! Your trying to make it sound like she's dropping her child off on a cold street corner with nobody to take care of them. If your going to go there then you might as well say and what father would leave his 2 young children to run for President.
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm

Just want to get this clear.


I'm waiting for racist wife Michelle to stick her foot in her mouth....

poor black men in jail for drug crimes while his wife steals from a medical charity. nm
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Charging is not spending money...it is spending someone elses money!
When you are debt free (as we are) THEN you spend money...anything else is just going into debt. I highly doubt he pays cash for anything.
It is none of your business!
Mind your own business.
of course it's our business, she put herself in this
to be under a microscope.
I think that they will go out of business
when any baby boomer without insurance goes out and buys it once he/she has been diagnosed with cancer. Then, when your child needs insurance, there will be no money left to pay for him/her.
Should be NONE of YOUR business how many
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Gay is their business...whether or not it is a
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Why is that your business?
I am not being hateful or anything. I am just wondering why you consider their marriage or lack of your business?

but again - why is it your business?
If you don't like it, then don't participate in it. I don't believe that biblically gay is acceptable, but if they want to get married and live the married lifestyle, then it does not hurt me. I am not living their lifestyle and I am not participating in their lifestyle. That is their personal decision. It does not affect me or my familiy or my lifestyle one bit by what they do in their home.

I believe that we have much more important things to worry about than whether two gay people are "legally" married or not...
NO - IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS
I don't believe your story about 4 of your friends. Too much of a coincidence I would say. You might have just well said you had 12 or more friends who all went through the same thing.

Like the poster said above - until you walk in someone else's shoes mind your own business. People are not put on this earth to meddle in other people's lives (people you don't know) and get involved in things you have no idea about and try to push your viewpoints. News flash - your viewpoints are not always right.
Well, if you want to go into business of producing

vaccines I'll be right behind you cheering you on.  If it's such an urgent matter then why don't you do it?  Like I said, the government will give you a grant for doing it, but it won't even cover the costs of making the vaccines.  Yeah, I'm sure you're ready to fill out that grant request first thing Monday morning.


I worded the vaccine statement wrong.  I heard yesterday on the radio, when all the ADD and autism with flu shots was being discussed, the majority of vaccines are now being made overseas, because companies have to take a hit just to make them.  THEY SAID that no smallpox vaccines were being made in the U.S.  The government does not make it feasible NOR do they protect these companies from litigation.


Do you think the government needs to strong arm drug companies into making vaccines for little or no profit?  If you do then you've shifted into a whole other political view.


Business politics

You nailed it when you said business.  However, if a conservative had said the same thing you and Lurker just stated you would have disputed that.  Liberals swear up and down Murdoch is a conservative Republican, but the truth is Murdoch is all about Murdoch and what sells.  His politics is business.


I never dispute big business...sm
I know they rarely have the little guy in mind or stand on principals. Murdoch is down with the republican party right now, but he's thinking about '08 as it appears the tide is changing (bush ratings). He has told the Washington Post that he is not sure if he will back Hillary or McCain in '08. He's waiting to see how the tide rolls to see which propaganda his news engine will push.
That's her business and choice if she does, not yours.
Just because YOU wouldn't be able to handle children plus a job doesn't mean another woman wouldn't. Perhaps your energy or patience level isn't up to it, but I know plenty of women that have high-profile careers and young children and handle both beautifully. It's all about balance. Again, just because you might not be able to find that balance doesn't mean others can't.