Crap. Dodd is staying on?
Posted By: Hoped he would be fired along with others. on 2008-11-06
In Reply to: Chris Dodd is going to be on CNBC - Backwards typist
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Tired of choosing between crap and crap?
I posted "over there" and so I figured I'd post over here, too. Anyone else tired of party wars and sheep mentality and more interested in the Constitutional Republic that made us what we are now?
Then perhaps you might consider staying
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i had trouble staying with what JM was saying -
it was rambling & almost incoherent.
Yes, and we need those dollars staying here too!
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You seem to be having a little trouble staying on task.
Let's try this again. The subjct is guilt by association. The post you are answering listed Mc'Cain's associates as follows:
Just off the top of my head:
1. US Council for World Freedo. Can you say Iran contra? How about dong business with terrorists (the arms seller AND the arms customer)?
2. Phil Gramm, (co-chair of the McCain campaign), champion of Enron tax loopholes and author of Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that effectively neutralized any existing regulation of financial services industry. You remember good ole Phil. He's the one talking on McCain's behalf when he said we were having a "mental recession" and we have a nation of a bunch of whiners.
3. Gordon Liddy. That's the guy who got a 20-year sentence for his conviction of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping in the Watergate fiasco. m
4. Let's don't forget the Keating 5.
5. Richard Quinn, publisher of Southern Heritage ragazine for neo-confederates…unapologetic bigotry and proud of it!
6. Rick Davis, McCain CEO, lobbyist, paid $15,000 each month for "consulting" from end of 2005 until September 2008.
Let me spell out the issue at hand. If we are to infer that Obama embodies the phuilisophies of each and every single person or organization that he has ever encountered dring the corse of his lifetime, then we can infer the same about McCain. Are you with me so far? an appropriate, direct and credible response would not include the word democrat in it. It would deal with the issue at hand and with the list of pub snakes McCain pals around with.
Yep. He's probably staying. Obama likes him. (nm)
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I wish we could go back to the staying at home and
supporting our man kind of life. I would love it. 
Whatever happened to staying on the subject? (sm)
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the original post -- but I guess Bush is just an embarrassment for the republican party. I guess if I had supported a war criminal [aka -- that guy with a lower approval than Nixon (who resigned)] I wouldn't have anything to say on the subject either.
Speaking of staying on the subject...(sm)
why don't you try it for a change? I believe the OP was about turnout at the tea parties, followed by the "crowds" and why the turned out. (Just tell me if I start going to fast for ya). So what do you do? How about yet another mindless tantrum. Yeah, those are getting old.
Here's the point about Newt. Newt has a record for voting for higher taxes as well as the bailout. Other "leaders/organizers" of this little tea mission are lobbyists. Any other time you would be screaming bloody murder about these guys, but now since Fixed Noise is sucking up to them, you are suddenly ready to jump over the cliff with them....and you want try to say that I can't think for myself? Yeah right...get your wading boots out folks.
Oh...and I believe everything Dodd says. LOL
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Why do pubs have so much trouble staying on task?
I like facts. Troopergate has lots of them. Try reading it. Then try answering the questions. Challenge yourself. Get though one single entire post, begining to end, without trashing Obama. Can you handle that? Probably not, but give it your best shot. By the way, there is only one person here who you need to educate....and it ain't me, babe.
Why do pubs have such difficulty staying on task?
Evidently smearing the dems is more important to you than equal pay for women. With this kind of tendency to self destruct, no wonder you folks lost so many elections.
Chris Dodd
"People are angry about bailouts, but would be more upset if the big 3 go under."
I hope they put his info on the news. I just can't type fast enough to cover it and don't want to put words in his mouth. The hearing was 6 hours long! Whew!
What I got from most of it was that GM and Ford have unsecured debt while Chrysler has secured debt and that the Chrysler CEO would step down if that would help his company. Wagoner (GM) and Gettlefinger are working together and GM keeps defending the UAW.
"Bankruptcy is the wrong approach," Dodd says. "There is concensus that inaction is not an option and the concensus is that we are not going to write a check without stipulations. My sense is that I have a working situation here and I'm going to get it done.... I need the federal reserve and the treasury to step up."
On the other bailouts, "I am through giving them money. I still have 9.000 people a day losing their homes and they (I think he's talking about Paulson) still haven't done anything about it."
I heard it was Dodd who
slipped that in as well. Not a big shock since he was the highest recipient of contributions from AIG. He slipped that in and things were passed so fast that no one could catch it and now everyone is crying outrage. I'm sure Obama is glad this was snuck in so he could repay AIG back for his second highest contributions...right under Dodd. Jerks!
They should have let AIG fall. I'm so sick and tired of bailing out companies. We need to start letting them file bankruptcy and restructure. Maybe then....they will start handling their money better. While government keeps bailing them out, they aren't going to change their ways. They are just going to keep asking for government handouts while the big execs get rich.
Dodd claims he did not put that in there -
at least, I read that he said the date he had included was changed so that those bonuses would still be paid. He said his date would not have allowed those bonuses to be paid. ???
Dodd retracting
Now Dodd is saying he did put it in there but Treasury "made" him...we gotta get this guy out of here...
That's why Osamabama moved to Chicago insteady of staying in NY.
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You evidently have a hard time staying on task.
if your mother, father, daughter, son, grandmother, grandfather, husband or best friend cast a vote in the early election and passed away on November 4th, how would it make you feel if their votes were thrown out?
Chris Dodd is going to be on CNBC
in a couple minutes with a press conference. Don't know what it's all about. Just caught the end of the announcement.
I just heard that Chris Dodd also wants to attach...
a proviso for some money to be given to certain groups...ACORN being one of them. What is up with that?? ACORN is being sued right and left for voter fraud.
The rationale for reducing the capital gains tax (for a short term, not permanently) is so that investors will be stimulated to invest again, and infuse some of THAT money back into the markets that will perhaps take at least SOME of that off ALL of us. I don't have a problem at all with a temporary reduction or even suspension of capital gains tax for a couple of months if it will reduce how much we are all on the hook for. Just my opinion.
Why should Obama apologize for Franks or Dodd? He is not...sm
their keeper. John Glenn and John McCain did not receive a formal reprimand but were judged to have "poor judgement" with their naive support quashing an investigation of the doings of Charles Keating in the 1980's whose financial doings eventually caused the savings and loan crisis just 2 years later. $180 billion that time, probably more with inflation than now. Bill Clinton dug us out of that hole, and here we are again.
and who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
You can't call out one and not the other. If anything, they are BOTH guilty.
And who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
You can't out one and not the other. They probably BOTH are guilty, but accuse them both, not just McCain.
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wrong...barney frank, chris dodd, and the
Dem members of the Banking and Finance Committee are wholly responsible. John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2006 and described this exact scenario, as did Allen Greenspan and John Snow (treasury secretary). The Dems killed it in committee. Voted to a man against it. And here we are. Nice try...no cigar (no pun intended). This is one that you can't lay on the Republicans. The facts do not support you on this one. No matter how much you deny it. And deny it you will. You can't help yourself.
Fannie and Freddie....Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...
you left them off your list. The two MAJOR players. Who got the most donations from fannie/freddie? Barack Obama and Chris Dodd. Obama got more from them in his 3 years than other senators did in 20. You do the math and follow the money.
Talk about ignorance....Chris Dodd, Barney Frank....
Fannie Mae...ring any bells? The housing crash is what started this downhill spiral. Talk about snorting Kool-aid...you must have an IV. O starts talking, brain stops working.
The war has cost us plenty...as did 9-11. But the economy didn't go south until the fannie/freddie debacle which started the dominos on wall street falling because of the "bad paper." So you can rant and rave all you want to about the war...your duly elected Dems in Congress screwed us ALL over. But go ahead, blame Bush...this is all on YOU folks. YOU voted them in. I had nothing to do with it...lol. I believe it is called stewing in your own juices...even if you are so in denial you don't realize it...but oh well...no surprise. :)
Listening to Harry Reid/Chris Dodd news conference...
I don't know how they can stand up there and lie through their teeth like that...blaming the White House and Republicans for this financial debacle. They know that is a lie. They know, especially Chris Dodd, was central to this. Also mentioned Barney Frank. Good grief. The hypocrisy is staggering. They should be talking about getting us out of this mess....just yesterday they were saying don't play the blame game. Telling McCain not to politicize it while they are politicizing it. That man makes my skin crawl.
And saying there was a "deal" and McCain blew it up. The only "deal" was among senators...the only house person present could not negotiate. He just had to listen. If they had the plan and had gone to the house with it, then the house would have blocked it there and hours if not days would have been wasted. Amazing the gall of some folks. Ridiculous!!!
Why can't they all stop the political posturing and just fix this mess. The House is only reacting to the onslaught of emails from their constituents saying protect us here, we don't like this carte blanche 700 billion. I for one am GLAD at least the Republicans in the house said whoa wait just a minute here.
Cut the crap already!
The below question was asked on August 24, and MT responded as quoted below.
Are the Bush supporters, those who voted for him, are you going to join the civilian corps to support the cause you believe in?
MT: Yes, I will join. I was there once, I will go again. No problem at all. NM
For crying out loud, it's still on the board!! When are you people going to get smart enough to figure out that you can't lie about your words once you've put them in writing and they're still there for everyone to see???!! Just because Bush does it all the time doesn't mean that it's okay, because the majority of Americans are sick of him and his lies, as well!!
And, yes, I know what you mean about feeling dirty and needing a shower. I feel that way every time I'm accosted by a liar that believes it's superior. EWWWWWWWWW YUCK!
Go back to your own board. Nobody from this board has bothered you there, and you and those of your ilk just can't stand it, can you??
No crap for me either (nm)
Well crap....they took it off.
They had another one like this one and it was taken off too. Evidently it struck a nerve with some people. It was a really good video too. That sucks.
Sorry you didn't get to see it. You would have liked it. It basically showed facts pointing to the financial crisis starting back with Carter and then with Clinton and linking Dodd and Obama and how their name kept coming up with all of this. Pretty much pointed the finger of blame to dems. It had some really good music with it too.
It is just such crap
used more bad language today than I have in I don't know how long.... flippin' aggravating...WOODEN ARROWS????? WHAT THE HECK IS THAT????
the same old crap we need
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OH CRAP. DOW BELOW 8,000
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When would it be okay to add this crap?
I don't understand where it's okay that the taxpayers (i.e. you and me) should pay for new furniture for a government office or new cars to government employees or pay for Hollywood producers to buy movies? When did it become okay for us to fund this kind of garbage? And why are the people in Congress who think this is okay still in Congress?
They would just crap themselves
if nobody paid their taxes. LOL! However, I think too many people would be afraid not too and those courageous ones who didn't would be in deep trouble. You won't get a free pass like Geithner and Daschle.
Oh well crap.
You knew what I meant. LOL. I'm so used to typing certain words that they just kind of happen without me realizing it. I guess I need to start proofreading what I type on here.
you know why? because the way you see it, is crap...nm
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"Holy CRAP" is exactly what that ad is.
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Holy crap...I believe in everything
Al Queda says. Sheesh. Are you friggin kidding me? Who isn't to say they are just saying this to scare people into ushering in Obama because they like him. Besides, as for McCain following Bush's failed war.....we are winning....the surge was successful....get a clue.
Do you honestly think that if AL Queda does something to us that Obama will just sit back and not do anything? Obama has said he will not take military action off of the table. So this whole.....Obama will stop the war crap.......you can't count on that because you don't know what those freaky psychotic terrorists have up their sleeves. It all sounds good as another failed promise though huh....I will stop the war. Just like he won't raise taxes on middle class even though raising taxes on businesses will trickle down to us and they will jack up prices of their products and we will pay for the tax hike that way....not to include the fact that all of Obama's plans cannot be covered by taxing the rich alone and he will have to raise taxes on the rest of us folks as well.....WAKE UP AMERICA!
Crap. The more I am looking into videos
This video is bothering me. Obama makes a statement and he then makes it out to be that it got twisted and everyone laughs and jokes about it, but then he says while everyone is laughing, "BUT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO." Do people not see who he really is and how he acts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw&feature=related
I'm just really over the race crap
They talk about how everything is so unequal when, at least in the south, that is complete crap. My husband can't get a job because he's NOT a minority. I can't get scholarsips because i'm NOT a minority. The government doesn't provide help to poor WHITE people because they are NOT a minority.
This man would have never been elected if he was NOT black. Excuse me, HALF BLACK.
You can't back any of your crap up....
so, reference to Jesus/dinosaur is a metaphor for your lack of education and understanding.
Reading this crap is what
Why do you call him the messiah? Can't anyone do a good job without your sour grapes bubbling over?
Your posts make me sick. If Obama stood on his head and spit out wooden nickels, you would somehow find fault with that and post some inflammatory statement about it. That's what is SICK.
Oh well crap...typo.
I should have typed accept instead of except. Sheesh. I thing I need another cup of coffee.
The ad is pretty much crap. I did a bit of research...
and found some info. (which I should have wrote down where) about the whole thing. Yes, Ayres and Obama worked for the same board a long time ago. Ayres contributed a big whole $200 to some campaign of Obama's a long time ago. And, the whole reference of his political career starting at Ayres house is a joke. When Obama first talked about going into politics he went to a party or dinner, something to that end, with some woman, a Senator I believe but don't quote me, that he was working for. This party I guess was at Ayres house and while there, this woman announced that she was going to be retiring and that Obama should be her successor. That's it. If you can do some research and tell me where I am wrong or misread, please do. I don't just automatically believe everything I see, I actually do some research. Obama has said he knows who Ayres is that they once worked together. Personally, that doesn't make someone my friend.
Also, I read somewhere too that that ad on TV is pretty much illegal due to some campain reform that was made in 2003. I don't know the whole whys of that, but did read something about that.
Holy crap....I teared up on that one.
I can't even imagine knowing that I was alive only because the abortion my mom tried to have failed. I know my mom was given the option of abortion with me because she was older and they were afraid it would put too big of a strain on her kidneys. Thankfully, my mom refused.
What I have NEVER understood is how abortion is not considered murder and you can legally have an abortion. However, if a pregnant woman is shot in the abdomen and her unborn child is killed, the gunman can be put on trial for murder or if the unborn child and mother both die it is considered a double murder. Why is it murder in one instance and not another. It is still taking the life of an unborn child. Just because one is wanted by its parent and the other isn't....so I guess that makes abortion okay since the parents don't want it....just kill it.
I'm sorry....I know you guys are tired of abortion debates. This is just my opinion. You all are welcome to your own opinion in this matter. So don't bash. If you don't agree....fine.
huffingtonpost is crap. That garbage should be
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I have heard this, and what a load of crap....
even if that were true, which I highly doubt...why doesn't he fire his accountants who exploit any loophole there is, and not take any deductions and pay more? No one is holding a gun to his head and forcing him NOT to pay more taxes. Why doesn't he give the cleaning lady a freaking raise??
There is that box on your return you can check and just write a check to the Treasury. Why doesn't he do that?
I heard Warren Buffett say this morning, about putting 3 billion into GE, "I am greedy. I am doing this to make money." I don't think there is anythng altruistic about Warren Buffett. He is one of those Wall Street rich folks people on this board have been talking about hating. This "crisis" is right up his alley....he is going to make billions.
Not all corporations are of Buffett's mind...and I repeat again...who do you think employs most of the people in this country? Who? Small businesses, corporations, and rich people. They already account for more than 80% of what goes into the Treasury NOW.
And how can Obama cut the taxes of 95% of Americans when 95% of Americans don't pay taxes??
so sick of reading this crap
do u really think that if O was not legally able to be pres because of his b/c that McCain and his campaign wouldnt have been the first to point this out? Anyways, who really cares????? There are WAY more important issues to be arguing about. People get way upset about a stupid b/c but they condone things like abortion! Give me a break! The things people choose to stand up for sometimes amazes me.
How about something original...your wonder boy is in deep crap...
and he knows it...just 2 weeks in and already can't remember what he promised. The coming 4 years are going to be great to watch; the Messiah implodes, millions who have been hoodwinked will have their eyes opened and they will STILL blame Bush.
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