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• The Keating Scandal - McCain's poor judgment
  • Here we go again. McCain was exonerated in this... - sam
    • The ad isn't addressing whether or not he was guilty - McCain's poor judgment
      • Oh of course....in the land where you are innocent if... - sam
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      • Well, the fact that they are largely responsible for... - the fannie problem stupid
  • Obama's poor judgement...Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, Tony Rezco.. - votinginde
    • Keating 5 cost taxpayers $125 billion. - O's ALLEGED ties cost $0. nm
      • Well, we just don't know that do we? - sm
      • O's alleged ties will cost money plus a lot more...nm - dnh
      • McCain was exonerated in this. nm - sam
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          • Well, if all congresspeople who every exhibited - sam
        • The ad is questioning his judgment - McCain's poor judgment
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"People are angry about bailouts, but would be more upset if the big 3 go under."

I hope they put his info on the news. I just can't type fast enough to cover it and don't want to put words in his mouth. The hearing was 6 hours long! Whew!

What I got from most of it was that GM and Ford have unsecured debt while Chrysler has secured debt and that the Chrysler CEO would step down if that would help his company.  Wagoner (GM) and Gettlefinger are working together and GM keeps defending the UAW.

"Bankruptcy is the wrong approach," Dodd says. "There is concensus that inaction is not an option and the concensus is that we are not going to write a check without stipulations. My sense is that I have a working situation here and I'm going to get it done.... I need the federal reserve and the treasury to step up."

On the other bailouts, "I am through giving them money. I still have 9.000 people a day losing their homes and they (I think he's talking about Paulson) still haven't done anything about it."

slipped that in as well.  Not a big shock since he was the highest recipient of contributions from AIG.  He slipped that in and things were passed so fast that no one could catch it and now everyone is crying outrage.  I'm sure Obama is glad this was snuck in so he could repay AIG back for his second highest contributions...right under Dodd.  Jerks! 

They should have let AIG fall.  I'm so sick and tired of bailing out companies.  We need to start letting them file bankruptcy and restructure.  Maybe then....they will start handling their money better.  While government keeps bailing them out, they aren't going to change their ways.  They are just going to keep asking for government handouts while the big execs get rich.

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I don't know how they can stand up there and lie through their teeth like that...blaming the White House and Republicans for this financial debacle.  They know that is a lie.  They know, especially Chris Dodd, was central to this.  Also mentioned Barney Frank.  Good grief.  The hypocrisy is staggering.  They should be talking about getting us out of this mess....just yesterday they were saying don't play the blame game.  Telling McCain not to politicize it while they are politicizing it.  That man makes my skin crawl. 

And saying there was a "deal" and McCain blew it up.  The only "deal" was among senators...the only house person present could not negotiate.  He just had to listen.  If they had the plan and had gone to the house with it, then the house would have blocked it there and hours if not days would have been wasted.  Amazing the gall of some folks.  Ridiculous!!!

Why can't they all stop the political posturing and just fix this mess.  The House is only reacting to the onslaught of emails from their constituents saying protect us here, we don't like this carte blanche 700 billion.  I for one am GLAD at least the Republicans in the house said whoa wait just a minute here. 

we all get frustrated on here from time to time.  As far as Obama picking pubs for positions, there's the sec of defense, Robert Gates, and Lahood for transportation, and I think a few others.  Someone said something about the pubs being picked are just token pubs, but I think if he is just going for token picks, it wouldn't be for sec of defense.  I think this pick said a lot about Obama and his intentions.

I really do hope that he does listen to pubs as well as dems.  As a poster mentioned earlier, there are good ideas in both parties.  I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture here, but we really need to find some kind of common ground, and I think (whether successful or not) Obama is trying to create that kind of environment.

BTW, I like Rachel Maddow much better too.  She isn't as blatant as Olberman, but she is a little sarcastic.  LOL.  I picked Olberman's video because it showed Obama going to the dinner as I was counting on someone to say that it didn't happen because it wasn't in conservative news.  While I do think Olberman is funny at times, I mostly just go with the quotes and video he presents and kind of tune the commentary out.

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Pyongyang's Foreign Ministry said in a statement the country "will be compelled to take additional self-defensive measures" unless the U.N. Security Council apologizes immediately. "The measures will include nuclear tests and test-firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles."

Barack Obama: 'arrogant US has been dismissive' to allies

President Barack Obama has offered an apology for the Bush era, declaring that America had “shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive” towards its allies.

His speech in Strasbourg went further than any United States president in history in criticising his own country’s action while standing on foreign soil........

Our European 'arrogance' in alphabetical order…

SEE IMAGE BELOW:

If I added correctly the count is 104,366 dead and we have to watch any American elected leader who apologizes to Europe and the Middle East that our country is "arrogant"!

Please see my other post in response to yours. 

Could someone just please tell me why one is necessary and how my name wound up in your post?

Or are you just so blinded by your hatred of me that you can't see straight any more when reading these boards?

You poor dear.  You should really see about getting rid of that hatred.  It will eat you alive. 

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

geezzzz, people.

I'm so tired of trying to make a living but betwen the state and federal government taking it all away when we get finally get near the top of things I really, really get nasty sometimes. My grandchildren and great-grandchildren will be paying for what we could not stop; i.e., stimuls, TARP, and everything else coming down the pike, and I don't think any of it is right. I feel our country is down the tubes and there is no getting out of it. I hope I am wrong, but between the state and federal government and what they are creating, they will take, or try to take, everything we all worked hard to achieve.  Big Brother has come to the USA even if it did take more than 25 years. You all know this country is going down but what, really, is anyone doing to stop it? Not much, because we are not a unified body, and unless we do band together and try, we are doomed. JMHO

Disclaimer: I will not apoligize for any answers I post because I feel they were not out of line.

pray for your souls.  Seriously.  I'm not laughing, and I'm not joking because I truly feel sorry for you. I won't answer you any more because that seems to only make you sicker.

Religious Addiction: a mental illness with deadly social consequences.

I do believe there is a Great Spirit responsible for the creation of the universe, but unfortunately, there have been those who have been the victims of the exploitation of this higher power.

When George W. Bush and the Christian Reich took control of the most powerful country in the world, The United States of America, a very dangerous virus began spreading throughout the country.

The virus: Christian Fascism.

This lethal threat to democracy is now infecting the world, ie...the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

To understand the Right Wing Zealots, it is important to acquire an understanding of what it means to be a religious addict. The following identifies important signs of religious addiction:

SYMPTOMS OF RELIGIOUS ADDICTION as written by Paschal Baute
Paschal Baute is a co-founder and facilitator of the Spiritual Growth Network of Kentucky. He is an organizational psychologist working with leadership and team development and personnel screening. His business web page will be found at www.paschalbaute.com

• Inability to think, doubt, or question religious information and/or authority
• Black-and-white, good/bad, either/or simplistic thinking: one way or the other
• Shame-based belief that you aren't good enough or you aren't doing it right
• Magical thinking that God will fix you/ do it all, without serious work on your part
• Scrupulosity: rigid obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines
• Uncompromising judgmental attitudes: readiness to find fault or evil out there
• Compulsive or obsessive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture
• Unrealistic financial contributions
• Believing that sex is dirty; believing our bodies or physical pleasures are evil
• Compulsive overeating and/or excessive fasting
• Conflict and argumentation with science, medicine, and education
• Progressive detachment from the real work, isolation and breakdown of relationships
• Psychosomatic illness: back pains, sleeplessness, headaches, hypertension
• Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling specially chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God
• Maintaining a religious high, trance-like state, keeping a happy face (or the belief that one should...) (1.) © Paschal Baute 1993

Condensed 'Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System.' Dr. Thomas Edgington is the principle author and contributed 90% of the following:

• God is seen as impersonal and vindictive: members tend to have a grace- deficit theology. (Their religion and experience are based totally on fear, not on relief.)
• Emphasis on theological correctness to the neglect of relationships and of loving others.
• Demonstrates a spiritual arrogance [considers those from outside as less spiritual].
• You will hear comments like I pride myself on my humility.
• Majors on minor theological issues and ignores or minimizes major ones.
• Scripture is said to be of primary importance, but in reality it is the leader's interpretation of Scripture that has primary importance.
• Traditions often overrule Biblical truth.
• Scripture is often misquoted, used out of context, or is degraded to the level of trite, pat answers in order to prove a point or to exact obedience to a system.
• Intellectual development is limited to what fits the system; we think the way we do because we are right; the thoughts and opinions of others are not considered.
• Dogmatism is common: the point under discussion is often explained by the quotation of a Bible verse, again, usually out of context.
• Members attempt to impose their personal opinions upon outsiders or upon those still within the system but under suspicion.
• There is a lack of objective accountability: leadership is accountable to itself ONLY. [Often explains why the religious fear and despise psychology... fear of exposure by outsider]
• Leadership is viewed as infallible and beyond reproach.
• Undue/over-emphasis upon submission to authority.
• Expression of certain emotions, particularly anger, is seen as unspiritual.
• Low self image, hyperactive conscience, undue guilt, and an inability to forgive, either others or oneself is very common.
• Communication often centers around theological issues; personal issues are rarely discussed. When they are, two phenomena find expression: shredding people,setting up and knocking down straw men.
• Interpersonal intimacy is often lacking.
• Poor ability to relate to hurting people; offers pat answers instead of demonstrating loving care (2.)

Religious Addiction preys on the Weak and Vulnerable

After reading and processing the above characteristics of a religious addict, it is very to easy to find incidents of religious addictions since George W. Bush took power:

A while ago, I was watching the news stories about the Ten Commandments Monument being removed from a Government building in the United States. As I watched the protests, I thought how twisted right wing Christian zealots are; the way they whined and moaned lying on the ground reminded me of a religious addicted cult. There is so much hate and mental defects within the Christian Coalition. It is scary.

It is important for all countries to separate government from Organized Religion. Christian Right Wing Organized Religion is a very dangerous political institution. They have decided how people should live and those choosing a different way of life are viewed as deviant or enemies.

When looking at two men, George W. Bush and Mel Gibson, it is easy to see how dangerous Religious addiction can be to the rest of the population. Both these men are recovered drug addicts and drunks. What lead to their recovery was replacing their chemical addictions with Christian addiction. Like a cult, Christian Extremists target people when they are at their weakest; both men have weak minds which made them easy prey. They should not be respected, but looked at as very weak little creatures.

As President of the United States, the mentally feeble man, George W. Bush, has been given the power to flex his religious addicted muscles: supported challenging affirmative action, proposal to ban gay marriage, increase funding to religious groups that help alcoholics and drug addicts recover, invading and taking over Iraq, funding the promotion marriage (push women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, eh Georgie?)

The Christian Right seeks to oppress those who don't conform to their way of life. In order for society to evolve, Right Wing Religion must be kept out of positions of political power.

Religious addicted Mel Gibson is now a right wing fundamentalist. He believes he knows God personally, and has a whole lot of money, giving him the power to push his beliefs on the rest of us. There is nothing more dangerous than a rich right wing fundamentalist. About Mel Gibson's movie, The Passion of the Christ, Movie Reviewers and News Commentators did not have the courage to give Mel Gibson's movie a real review. It is probably like during the invasion of Iraq; people who spoke against it were intimidated, and the media was very biased toward the bullies.

Religious addiction is a serious mental illness in our society. Religious addicts, when given power, have the ability to do some serious damage to the world and its species.

Religious Addiction: a mental illness with deadly social consequences.

Endnotes:

1. Paschal Baute, Symptons of Religious Addiction http://www.lexpages.com/SGN/paschal/religious_addiction.html
2. Dr. Thomas Edgington, Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System. Nimbus.org http://www.nimbus.org/Academics/ReligiousAddiction.html

BIBLIOGRAPHY

Symptons of Religious Addiction by Paschal Baute
http://www.lexpages.com/SGN/paschal/religious_addiction.html
Retrieved April, 1st 2004

Characteristics of a Religious Addictive System. Nimbus.org
http://www.nimbus.org/Academics/ReligiousAddiction.html
Retrieved April, 1st 2004

Copyright 2004 © TrysDan Roberts

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