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The ad is pretty much crap. I did a bit of research...

Posted By: sm on 2008-08-27
In Reply to: What?! - ObamaAyers

and found some info. (which I should have wrote down where) about the whole thing.  Yes, Ayres and Obama worked for the same board a long time ago.  Ayres contributed a big whole $200 to some campaign of Obama's a long time ago.  And, the whole reference of his political career starting at Ayres house is a joke.  When Obama first talked about going into politics he went to a party or dinner, something to that end, with some woman, a Senator I believe but don't quote me, that he was working for.  This party I guess was at Ayres house and while there, this woman announced that she was going to be retiring and that Obama should be her successor.  That's it.  If you can do some research and tell me where I am wrong or misread, please do.  I don't just automatically believe everything I see, I actually do some research.  Obama has said he knows who Ayres is that they once worked together.  Personally, that doesn't make someone my friend. 


Also, I read somewhere too that that ad on TV is pretty much illegal due to some campain reform that was made in 2003.  I don't know the whole whys of that, but did read something about that.




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Tired of choosing between crap and crap?
I posted "over there" and so I figured I'd post over here, too.  Anyone else tired of party wars and sheep mentality and more interested in the Constitutional Republic that made us what we are now?    
Cut the crap already!

The below question was asked on August 24, and MT responded as quoted below.


Are the Bush supporters, those who voted for him, are you going to join the civilian corps to support the cause you believe in?


 


MT:  Yes, I will join. I was there once, I will go again. No problem at all. NM


For crying out loud, it's still on the board!!  When are you people going to get smart enough to figure out that you can't lie about your words once you've put them in writing and they're still there for everyone to see???!!  Just because Bush does it all the time doesn't mean that it's okay, because the majority of Americans are sick of him and his lies, as well!!


And, yes, I know what you mean about feeling dirty and needing a shower.  I feel that way every time I'm accosted by a liar that believes it's superior.  EWWWWWWWWW YUCK! 


Go back to your own board.  Nobody from this board has bothered you there, and you and those of your ilk just can't stand it, can you??


No crap for me either (nm)

Well crap....they took it off.

They had another one like this one and it was taken off too.  Evidently it struck a nerve with some people.  It was a really good video too.  That sucks. 


Sorry you didn't get to see it.  You would have liked it.  It basically showed facts pointing to the financial crisis starting back with Carter and then with Clinton and linking Dodd and Obama and how their name kept coming up with all of this.  Pretty much pointed the finger of blame to dems.  It had some really good music with it too.


It is just such crap
used more bad language today than I have in I don't know how long.... flippin' aggravating...WOODEN ARROWS????? WHAT THE HECK IS THAT????
the same old crap we need
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OH CRAP. DOW BELOW 8,000
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When would it be okay to add this crap?
I don't understand where it's okay that the taxpayers (i.e. you and me) should pay for new furniture for a government office or new cars to government employees or pay for Hollywood producers to buy movies? When did it become okay for us to fund this kind of garbage? And why are the people in Congress who think this is okay still in Congress?
They would just crap themselves
if nobody paid their taxes.  LOL!  However, I think too many people would be afraid not too and those courageous ones who didn't would be in deep trouble.  You won't get a free pass like Geithner and Daschle. 
Oh well crap.
You knew what I meant.  LOL.  I'm so used to typing certain words that they just kind of happen without me realizing it.  I guess I need to start proofreading what I type on here.
you know why? because the way you see it, is crap...nm
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"Holy CRAP" is exactly what that ad is.
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Holy crap...I believe in everything

Al Queda says.  Sheesh.  Are you friggin kidding me?  Who isn't to say they are just saying this to scare people into ushering in Obama because they like him.  Besides, as for McCain following Bush's failed war.....we are winning....the surge was successful....get a clue. 


Do you honestly think that if AL Queda does something to us that Obama will just sit back and not do anything?  Obama has said he will not take military action off of the table.  So this whole.....Obama will stop the war crap.......you can't count on that because you don't know what those freaky psychotic terrorists have up their sleeves.  It all sounds good as another failed promise though huh....I will stop the war.  Just like he won't raise taxes on middle class even though raising taxes on businesses will trickle down to us and they will jack up prices of their products and we will pay for the tax hike that way....not to include the fact that all of Obama's plans cannot be covered by taxing the rich alone and he will have to raise taxes on the rest of us folks as well.....WAKE UP AMERICA!


Crap. The more I am looking into videos

This video is bothering me.  Obama makes a statement and he then makes it out to be that it got twisted and everyone laughs and jokes about it, but then he says while everyone is laughing, "BUT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO."  Do people not see who he really is and how he acts? 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pO1dIKgfPw&feature=related


I'm just really over the race crap
They talk about how everything is so unequal when, at least in the south, that is complete crap. My husband can't get a job because he's NOT a minority. I can't get scholarsips because i'm NOT a minority. The government doesn't provide help to poor WHITE people because they are NOT a minority.

This man would have never been elected if he was NOT black. Excuse me, HALF BLACK.


You can't back any of your crap up....
so, reference to Jesus/dinosaur is a metaphor for your lack of education and understanding.
Reading this crap is what
Why do you call him the messiah? Can't anyone do a good job without your sour grapes bubbling over?

Your posts make me sick. If Obama stood on his head and spit out wooden nickels, you would somehow find fault with that and post some inflammatory statement about it. That's what is SICK.
Oh well crap...typo.

I should have typed accept instead of except.  Sheesh.  I thing I need another cup of coffee.


Holy crap....I teared up on that one.

I can't even imagine knowing that I was alive only because the abortion my mom tried to have failed.  I know my mom was given the option of abortion with me because she was older and they were afraid it would put too big of a strain on her kidneys.  Thankfully, my mom refused.


What I have NEVER understood is how abortion is not considered murder and you can legally have an abortion.  However, if a pregnant woman is shot in the abdomen and her unborn child is killed, the gunman can be put on trial for murder or if the unborn child and mother both die it is considered a double murder.  Why is it murder in one instance and not another.  It is still taking the life of an unborn child.  Just because one is wanted by its parent and the other isn't....so I guess that makes abortion okay since the parents don't want it....just kill it.


I'm sorry....I know you guys are tired of abortion debates.  This is just my opinion.  You all are welcome to your own opinion in this matter.  So don't bash.  If you don't agree....fine. 


huffingtonpost is crap. That garbage should be
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I have heard this, and what a load of crap....
even if that were true, which I highly doubt...why doesn't he fire his accountants who exploit any loophole there is, and not take any deductions and pay more? No one is holding a gun to his head and forcing him NOT to pay more taxes. Why doesn't he give the cleaning lady a freaking raise??

There is that box on your return you can check and just write a check to the Treasury. Why doesn't he do that?

I heard Warren Buffett say this morning, about putting 3 billion into GE, "I am greedy. I am doing this to make money." I don't think there is anythng altruistic about Warren Buffett. He is one of those Wall Street rich folks people on this board have been talking about hating. This "crisis" is right up his alley....he is going to make billions.

Not all corporations are of Buffett's mind...and I repeat again...who do you think employs most of the people in this country? Who? Small businesses, corporations, and rich people. They already account for more than 80% of what goes into the Treasury NOW.

And how can Obama cut the taxes of 95% of Americans when 95% of Americans don't pay taxes??
Crap. Dodd is staying on?

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so sick of reading this crap
do u really think that if O was not legally able to be pres because of his b/c that McCain and his campaign wouldnt have been the first to point this out?  Anyways, who really cares?????  There are WAY more important issues to be arguing about.  People get way upset about a stupid b/c but they condone things like abortion!  Give me a break!  The things people choose to stand up for sometimes amazes me. 
How about something original...your wonder boy is in deep crap...
and he knows it...just 2 weeks in and already can't remember what he promised. The coming 4 years are going to be great to watch; the Messiah implodes, millions who have been hoodwinked will have their eyes opened and they will STILL blame Bush.
This is just plain crap - see message
Anytime anyone says anything that doesn't elate the messiah you scream racism.

Statement - "I don't like his policies". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "The people he picked for his cabinet are not qualified" - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "He lied to us in his campaign. Offered us hope but there is no hope." - Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "We're tired of him spending money that hasn't even been printed yet". Your reply - "your a racist".

Statement - "It's about time we have someone of a different race in the WH". Your reply - "Right on. I agree with you."

This racist bull is getting old and so untrue, but whenever you can't argue with something you scream racism. GET OVER IT! We have. Enough with this "racism" thing. If you can't bring a conversation then just don't say anything, but please spare me with the racism crap.
Oh pleeeeese....what a load of crap
For the short amount of time I watched MSNBC yesterday (10 minutes - then was about to throw up so had to turn them off) I heard this crap too. And that is what it is....crap! So any elitist liberal who posts an article you're going to believe. They have no facts to back this up.

The truth is there is no rise in hate groups. However, there is a rise in "the O" supporters who are coming around to realize that everything he says and campaigned on is a lie and yes they are angry they were duped. But there is no "violent hate groups" (on the right at least, plenty of liberal hate groups out there). You need to turn off MSNBC and CNN and get some news elsewhere because those two groups are just a liberal propaganda station. Remember Hanoi Hilton. We have it here called MSNBC & CNN.

Turn those liberal extremist groups off and listen to something else and stop spreading fear and paranoia.

And like TechSupport said below - "Might as well quote Homer Simpson".
You are so full of crap it isn't funny.

If Barry thought for himself, he wouldn't be changing his stance on things every other day.  He is making a mockery of our country.  I was always worried about the people he owed for getting him elected and now we see them coming into play.  Obama is doing nothing but appealing to the far left and all the money they dished out to get him elected.  He is nothing but a puppet.


As for the continued bashes on Fox News....once again.....Fox News has the highest ratings including the pathetic channels that you watch to get your misinformation. 


I really feel sorry for you.  When the sh!t hits the fan in this country, you are definitely going to be the one with egg on your face with a confused look saying....I don't understand.  MSNBC said this wouldn't happen and O promised. 



Holy crap....I agree! LOL!
I couldn't care less who diddles who.  That is their business.  However, when they are using taxpayer dollars for sexual favors and rendevous.....then it becomes our business.
Well go bloviate on the conservative board with this crap.
Spare us.
Holy crap......are you friggin kiddin me?

I typed out several paragraphs and one swear word and the cussing police is on me like stink on sh1t.  Waaaaaaah!  Boo hoo!


Seriously say something of substance to prove me wrong as I honestly don't believe I signed up for this swearing lecture. Have a great day!


NOBAMA!


Feel just the opposite. O scares the crap out of me.nm
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CRAP! I blame all the ones who voted for Obama,
Geesh.  THANKS A LOT.  You wanted change, BOY ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT.  He is not even President yet, and already a Marxist.  Go ahead, bow on your knees to Obama, I want my United States back again.  It may have not been perfect and Bush tried along with Clinton, Senior Bush, Regan, Carter, and all the other presidents, but YOU CAN HAVE YOUR HITLER, MARXIST GOVERNMENT.  I blame you all who voted for the Marxist, Hitler style government. 
And Bush inherited a lot of crap from Clinton
And Clinton inherited a lot from Bush Sr., etc, etc.

It's like the Sunny & Cher song....and the beat goes on.

What a president does while in office will determine if they become a good president or not. Right now Obama is not off to a good start. As his slogan goes one can only "hope" that it will get better.
You're obvious willingness to believe utter crap said it. nm
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holy crap- i forgot to turn off the water in the bathtub!!!!
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July 2008 - I guess our Supreme Court was full of crap, too, huh?

July 2008


In a stinging blow to the Bush administration, the Supreme Court has ruled prisoners in Guantanamo Bay can challenge their detention in civilian federal courts. The ruling marked the third time in four years the Supreme Court has ruled against the Bush administration concerning the rights of Guantanamo prisoners.


Just teach "no bullying" PERIOD and leave the lifestyle crap out of it.
I'm sorry, but you're very naive about what these children are actually being taught - i.e., that one family is "just like another" (there's a cute little song they sing about this), etc.

You want to teach kids not to be physically violent toward any other kids - fine. You go beyond that and start preaching the gospel of lifestyle equivalency and you're wandering off into the parents' domain.

Oh, yeah - I almost forgot. Get back to T E A C H I N G!!
You had better do some better research. sm
Hillary, at the cost of millions of dollars from her special forces team (none of whom knew a thing about writing a health care bill, including herself) put together an over 1300 page "booklet" which was such a dismal failure, not even the democrats would get behind it.  Ted Kennedy wants socialized medicine.  Ask Canada and England what they think of socialized medicine. You really can't go around blaming republicans for everything without at least doing some research. 
did my research
Oh, I did my research and I lived through the times when President Clinton and the First Lady tried to get a universal health plan.  The republicans wanted nothing to do with it.  Socialized health care?  Better than no health care for millions of americans.  At least President Clinton got the country talking about universal health care, more than Bush has done.  All Bush has done is push his programs that benefit the rich.  Example, his tax cuts.  The rich got over 91,000 dollars in tax cuts each, the working class got 200 to 300 dollars, I didnt get anything.  Bush is a disaster and I think you need to do a bit of research. Conservative equals not wanting change.  Liberal means wanting to change and progress and move forward with new ideas, plans, bettering the country.  You conservatives are stuck in the 1940s and 1950s mentality.  Gotta tell ya, time moves on and if you dont move and grow with it, you will be left behind. It is obvious conservatism is a dying ideology, liberalism and sharing among the people of the world is the ideology of the future.
Do a little research on...
the bombings in Yugoslavia and the targeted bombings of civilians.  Secondly, one coulud make an argument (you certainly would have if GWB had been president from 1992 until 2000) that Al-Qaeda ratched up it's attacks and most certainly planned the entire 9/11 attack during Clintons administration.  From the 1993 failed WTC attack right on  through all the rest, until the end of term, one cannot even argue that Bin Laden was left unchecked and unhindered. 
Do some research
If you really care about why Jews believe life begins with the first breath, do some research, starting in the Old Testament. There is a lot of information available on the internet. I don't care to explain it all, when I really don't think you give a hoot about what I believe.

Basically, it is a matter of soul. We don't believe one has a soul until we are born and take our first breath.
Please...do the research....
even those scientists in search of grants who agree with him for that express purpose, conclude that he "might be a little off" on some things...saying that the catastrophic things he implies are imminent are MILLENIA away...that means thousands of years. Fossil fuels will be long gone by then and so will we. So...has NOTHING to do with peace.
It's you who needs to research/think
but I won't take any bets on either!

Are you really unable to follow what is meant by "MCcain voted 'with Bush'...? here's a clue: its not meant to be taken literally. MCCAIN VOTED FOR BUSH POLICIES 90% of the time. Do you still not get it?

And, my post wasn't about the DEMOCRATS - it was about McCain's voting record! But change the subject if you want...
anything but respond to the factual point(s)I made.

After you go do your research, come back and report WHETHER OR NOT McCain supported Bush's policies (voted for) anything near the 90% range...

For the record, I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT, nor do I defend them.
All you have to do is the research...
Democrats were at the top of this, Democrats passed the "reform" that was the straw that broke the camel's pack. Smoke and mirrors, deny, deny. It's all out there for anyone to see...Raines and Gorelick. Cleaned up at the American peoples' expense.
This one isn't. Research it. nm
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research it.....sm
I don't have time to do it for you, but all these CEOs of all these big corps that have gone under? Liberal democrats, probably all of them. Just look around for the info. It's there.

Makes me sick the way they blame George Bush and the Republicans, when it was the liberal congress getting their pockets lined to keep legislation from passing that would have kept fannie and freddie from happening, and whole boatload of other crap from happening.

Blame game...blame the republicans, when it's really yourself that caused the problem.

At least I just heard McCain finally get some kahunas and called Obama on his ties to all this.



You are SO right! I did some research on
this myself in the Journal of Socialist Affairs in America, and this was undeniably what was happening. A similar view is put forth on the unifyingamerica.org website. George Soros, Bill Rudgear, and Jonah Winston have just GOT to go!
He are a few. Do a little more research yourself instead...sm
of putting your faith in what a right-wing rag has to say. If your read all those requisitions for grants they were all for worthy causes in a poor Chicago neighborhood, children/youth/elderly programs. Because there was no oversight on how the money was spent it appears that some of the grant money that went to 1 of the organizations may have been misspent and is under investigation. This happened way back in 2000. In 2006 when Obama was no longer in the Illinois legislature, this same organization was given an additional $20,000. Do you want to blame Obama for that too? I venture to say I have done more research on the subject than you have.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article

http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/DCEO_1.pdf

http://www.illinois.gov/pressreleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=1378


Research is everything.......it keeps getting
Don't forget that factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg School at the University of Pennsylvania and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation that employed Obama in Chicago.


do some research
For starters, they have the highest tax in the nation (10.25, as I recall my sister telling me, who lives there).  Major militants.  Their idea of replacing a retired politician is neoptism.  I don't recall the name, but my sister was telling me about it.  They also pay big-time for car emission tests, stuff like that.  Do some research and see what you think.  After all, it's the home of Rev. Wright & Father Phleger.
Research this.....

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the picture'.
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised "Meet The
Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!!
Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!! Must
say that I'm dually impressed..................


From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about his


stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance


Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked


Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is
played. The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
States Code,


Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem


when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected
to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At
the very least, "Stand and Face It"
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin, I


don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of
people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And
the anthem itself conveysa war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in
air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less
bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that
were our anthem, then I might salute it."We should consider to reinvent our
National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies
hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the


level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of
warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas
peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our
governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end
hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and
a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed
upon the nations of Islam anunfair injustice. My wife disre spects the Flag
for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag
burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has herviews and I have
mine". Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of
the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to
bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My
wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed,
CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.
WHAAAAAAAT the HEL**!!!


Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our


next President.I, for one, am speechless.
Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post